Rallying around Alito II: The Swamp
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Posted January 9, 2006 2:56 PM
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Posted by Frank James at 2:58 pm CST

Note to Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito: For those to whom much is given, much is required. At least that was one biblical message I was reminded of by the Justice Sunday III, the pro-Alito rally held last night at the Greater Exodus Baptist Church in North Philadelphia.
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What religious conservatives gave through their grass-roots muscle over decades was political power to like-thinking politicians like President Bush, power to make nominations to the federal judiciary, especially the Supreme Court.

They now fully expect that those judges Bush chooses-including Alito-will agree with the Christian conservative agenda to overturn Roe v. Wade and permit open prayer in school. They are very clear about that.

(Read Jan Crawford Greenburg and Jill Zuckman's coverage of Monday's Alito hearing in Tuesday's Tribune.)

And woe unto Alito if he is confirmed and, by extension the president if, when Alito is given the chance to help decide issues important to conservative Christians, he votes with the court's liberals.

"What we've worked on for 30 years, to mobilize people of faith and values in this country, is coming to consummation right now," said Rev. Jerry Falwell, one of the nation's best-known Christian conservative leaders, speaking to the packed church and a national Christian audience watching and listening by simulcast.

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"We were able to hold off Michael Moore and most of Hollywood and George Soros and (Edward) Kennedy and others in that crowd who fought so fiercely against the re-election of George Bush. That was just a year ago," Falwell said.

"Now we're looking at something that really started 30 years ago, a reconstruction of a court system gone awry."

James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and another top Christian conservative leader, spoke a few minutes before Falwell and laid out just what had gone so wrong and seemed confident Alito could make it right.

"I think the effort to help get judge Samuel Alito confirmed may be one of the most important efforts that has occurred in recent history because of the issue of judicial tyranny."

Alluding to numerous Supreme Court decisions Christian conservatives, Dobson engaged the audience in a call and response

"Do you believe that school children should be able to read the Bible?"

"Yes"

"Do you believe that school children should be able to pray?"

"Yes"

Do you believe there should be prayer at graduation and sports events?"

"Yes"

The last question was "Do you believe that every child in this world should be welcomed into this world and protected?" Read that as "Do you oppose abortion?"

You get the picture.

Dobson went on to say a supermajority of Americans agreed with every one of those questions. I just checked, however, and as recently as November, Gallup found only 16 percent of people surveyed saying abortion should be illegal under all circumstances.

Sen. Rick Santorum, the only elected official on the church stage, was the equal of the preachers in bashing the court. He quoted an unfamiliar (to me) line from Thomas Jefferson in which the great man said something about the seeds of the nation's destruction lying in the judiciary. "

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"We've seen Jefferson's fears come true with extreme liberal judges destroying traditional morality, creating a new moral code which prohibits any dissent. The Supreme Court has become the supreme branch of the government imposing its unrestrained will on all the people… The only way to restore this republic our founders envisioned is to elevate honorable jurists like Samuel Alito who will replace the hubris of this court with humity and respect for the common sense of the American people."

Despite being held in an African American church, I don't call the issue of affirmative action being mentioned a single time, maybe because that was an issue on which many black and white Christians disagree. Alito's past opposition to affirmative action might have marred the mood of harmony that filled the church.

Speaking of harmony, the mass, as in very large, choir that sang during the praise service before the formal program started, rocked the sanctuary, achieving a truly awe-inspiring decibel level that seemed like it might be the prelude to the Rapture itself.

Anyway, I acknowledge I may have missed any mentions of affirmative action, however. I left the sanctuary several times to check out the protesters across the street. More than 100 mostly shouting young people carried signs like "Focus on Your Own Damn Family" and "No Alito, No Religious Agenda in Our Courts."Protestors_at_justice_sunday_iii


In talking with some of the people in the audience, it was clear they hadn't been following the fight over Alito or the federal judiciary.

"Our pastor told us a little bit about the program though we're a little bit vague about that," said Sabrina Foster, 30, a member of another church, Faith and Deliverance Outreach Ministries. "We know that there are some important issues concerning different lifestyles of people (gay marriage) and pro-life concerning abortion," she said.

"And basically we're here to support the service concerning those issues," she said. "We do believe Jesus is Lord and according to the Bible there are certain things we must live by."
Herbett Lusk II, Greater Exodus's senior pastor who hosted the event, took up the issue of race.

For embracing Bush and prominent white Christian conservatives, including Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, Lusk told the audience he's been "called a sellout, I've been called an Uncle Tom. The New York Times called me a maverick to the black church."Rev_lusk_at_pulpit_at_justice_sunday_iii


"Well my friends I just want the Times to know if a maverick can be defined as one who is pro black, then I'm that," said Lusk. "If a maverick means I am one who supports the original intent of God Almighty to have a husband and a wife, then I'm a maverick."

This was after Lusk, at the very start of the 90-minute event clenched Perkins hand and raised it in victory. "This is what the devil doesn't like," he said. And that came after he had said "Black folks and white folks and yellow folks. We're not supposed to be together like this. Jesus is bringing us together."

Many years ago, Martin Luther King (his niece Alveda King was one of the speakers) said something that is still largely true; that the Sunday morning church hour was the most segregated time in America. Justice Sunday III accomplished nothing else, it brought a lot of whites on a Sunday evening to a black church in the hood. Some might call that progress.

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"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion", contained in article 11 of the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, debated and ratified in the U.S. Senate and signed into law by president John Adams.
There is nothing else to say.


Well it is nice to see that ignorance does indeed come in all colors and is quite able to assemble in large masses.


Regarding Alito, those who hope for an end to abortions in this country will be disappointed. Abortions happened before Roe, and they will continue after Alito.

Countries where abortion is illegal endure much higher abortion rates than those where it is legal. American corporate productivity is built on small, two wage earner families, and our country has not adopted policies that would support a change to that. Since finances are the top reason American women have abortions, and with new policies restricting access to contraceptives, it seems likely this unfortunate trend will continue.

In his 2000 debate with McCain Bush stated he believes abortion should be legal in cases of the mother's health, rape and incest. In 2003 Bush said he would not push for an amendment banning abortion. He certainly won't outlaw oral contraceptives and IUDs, which prevent implantation of fertilized eggs (something some call "micro abortions"). How Bush was able to convince some amid all his equivocating that he was actually in favor of a "culture of life" is beyond me.

But for all the rhetoric, this appointment isn't about abortion, it's about executive power. Both the Miers and Alito appointments betray a pattern of nominations that favor a radically powerful executive branch at the expense of a weakened Congress and judiciary. Alito's arguments on the meaning and power of presidential signing statements are just one example.

The most troubling issue of the Alito nomination isn't whether or not abortion will still be legal, it's whether or not our nation will continue to enjoy the oversight, checks and balances established by our 3-branch form of government, along with the protections to citizens (enumerated in the Bill of Rights) that they afford.


What you saw in that church was fascism at it's clearest.


Why is it that pro abortionist always use the "under all circumstances statistic"?

Yes, a majority of American's approve of abortion in hard cases. Here is the break down of how many hard case abortions are performed each year.

13% babies had a possible health problem

7% women had a health* problem

1% victims of rape or incest

So that means that the vast majority of abortions are performed for reasons like not being ready, not having enough money, relationship problems, not wanting the responsibility, not wanting anyone to know, not wanting any more kids or pressure from someone else. All of which, could have been avoided by the use of birth control in the first place.
For these reasons, abortion approval drops to less then 30%


To give Pauls' posting appropriate context, the Treat of Tripoli dealt with the US efforts to defeat the Barbary pirates. The treaty's intent was to avoid international conflict with Muslims. Given the correct historical context, the whole of Article 11 states,

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Given the proper context rather than Paul's exacto treatment, this article states that the US is not a Christian-based theocracy. The actions taken by the US government against the Barbary pirates should not be construed as religious in nature.

It is disingenuous for folks, including this Swamp's author, to sensationalize and portray these folks as ill-informed and blindly fanatic. You're welcome to your opinion, as am I to mine which I choose to keep to myself. I am not pleased, however, that the editors would provide tacit endorsement of extreme blowtorch tactics -- to the Right or Left -- without ensuring that opinions are based in the whole truth. As demonstrated by Paul, modern partisanship is adept at mixing a little bit of truth in every lie.


So much for checks-and-balances.


"This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it."
John Adams

Editors note: A University of North Carolina website indicates the commenter's quote is out of context and therefore changes Adams meaning. Adam's quote in context is given as "Twenty times, in the course of my late reading, have I been on the point of breaking out, 'this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!!!!' But in this exclamation, I should have been as fanatical as Bryant or Cleverly. Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in public company-I mean hell."


Now if DA Gorski can show me where the lie is in the statement "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;" even in it's incompleteness. You've said it yourself, "this article states that the US is not a Christian-based theocracy."
What exactly are you accusing me of, besides making the point that you yorself uphold with your statement?
Whether in context or out of context, does the meaning change or just YOUR interpretation?
I was not sensatiionalizing or protraying "these folks" as as ill-informed or blindly fanatic. On the contrary, they are well-informed, well-funded and well-positioned to make Christianity the official religion of the United States.
That, quite frankly, nauseates me and I will not tolerate it.
This happens to be my country.


Dear Ms Atkins:

Sometimes birth control methods fail, even when used correctly.


"Why is it that pro abortionist always use the 'under all circumstances statistic'"?

Actually, that is the "statistic" used by the Catholic Church and its members, who could hardly be called "pro abortionist."

They say "under all circumstances" because Catholics believe human life is human life, no matter how it came about. They would call the middling position of those who think it's ok to murder unborn children just because their lives were the result of a violent act to be the height of hypocrisy.


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