Plame and Wilson sue Cheney etc.

She could have been killed -- fortunately, she wasn't. Even if you think the woman's husband has a big mouth, if we start being this loose with the people who are doing their utmost to protect our nation just because of a vendetta, it is going to compromise not just the agents, but the whole integrity of the agency. They were thinking, "Let's show that bitch's husband" and the result is a lot of damage that most of us will never really understand because we aren't in that world. What they did was shameful at least and detrimental to our nation's security.

The Wilson-Plame "lawsuit" is a PR move, filed to garner free publicity for their (inevitable) forthcoming book. How else to keep a dead story alive, and extend their "15 minutes" of fame?

Ah, Tom, no one has been or will be indicted for "leaking" her name. She was not a covert agent. No laws were broken. Fitzgerald has known who "leaked" her name for a couple of years now. Despite media reports, Novak himself said it wasn't Rove. Rove only confirmed the information for him. And the original "leaker" is not a political appointee or a political person, but a career bureaucrat, this according to Novak too.

Novak was able to find her name in Who's Who in America, so it was already out there. Plame was the one who got her husband sent to Niger. And, practically all of Wilson's assertions were proven wrong and found incorrect, according to independent investigations.

This is important reading for you folks who believe the White House went after Valerie Plame. This all started with Bob Novak and he's now talking. And, as previously noted, NO ONE will be indicted for "leaking" her name because there was no crime committed to indict!!

NOVAK: Well, that was a misstatement. That was an interview I did on the telephone with Newsday shortly after it appeared. Some of the things that they said that quoted me that are not in quotes are paraphrases, and they're incorrect, such as the whole idea that they planted this story with me. I never told that to the Newsday reporters.

But, as a matter of fact, let me assure you that neither my primary source gave — mentioned Valerie Plame's name to me, nor did Karl Rove mention the name to me, nor did the CIA spokesman. They just talked about Joe Wilson's wife. I got her name from "Who's Who.”

John D, its people like you and your buddy Bruce that propagate the lies by the right-wing extremists that are the real danger to our Democracy. “Scooter” is a convicted felon in the Wilson case, and Rove should have gone down with him. Just this week Novak admitted his source was Rove, so just stop spreading the misinformation you pick up from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.

Rory,
What felony has "Scooter" been convicted of? Your (and the left's) ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

Rory M

This from "My Role in Plamegate"
By Robert Novak (Chicago Sun-Times, July 12, 2006)

"In my sworn testimony, I said what I have contended in my columns and on television: Joe Wilson's wife's role in instituting her husband's mission was revealed to me in the middle of a long interview with an official who I have previously said was not a political gunslinger. After the federal investigation was announced, he told me through a third party that the disclosure was inadvertent on his part."

This from MSNBC's website:

"Libby’s trial is currently scheduled to start in January of 2007."

Rory - even in an anonymous forum like this, how can you face yourself when you make posts like your last one? Your misinformation is a classic example of the failing of the political left and the mainstream media they control. I have no doubt that you believe Libby has been convicted and you are now scratching your head trying to figure out who told you he was convicted when the trial has not yet been held. It is a dangerous combination of a biased press and a liberal constituency that does not pay attention to anything more than sound bites and headlines.

The amazing part is that you are completely wrong about the facts of this matter and you dare to question the sources of the people who disagree with you. (that is why I went right to the Sun-Times and MSNBC - unless you think they too are in league with "Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.")

RRD

Rory, I've come to realize you have no clue about ANYTHING!! First, Scooter Libby IS NOT a convicted felon. He's been indicted for obstruction of justice. An indictment is not a conviction.

Also, if you read Robert Novak's column, he clearly states Karl Rove was just a confirmation of the information he received from a NONPOLITICAL person within Bush administration. My previous post has Bob Novak in HIS OWN WORDS, no one else, but his!!

But I know FACTS are items your brain cannot digest. Go back to reading your Dick and Jane books. They are easier for you to handle and comprehend.

Rory:

Scooter has not yet been convicted. Other than that you're dead on.

John D. and Bruce: You've made clear time and again that you value your party more than your country. The CIA itself has made clear that Plame was a covert operative, yet you still pretend that it was OK to reveal her identity.

The White House admitted that the Niger/Uranium plug in the SOTU was not correct, exactly as Wilson reported, yet you still think it's OK for Murderer Boy to have lied the country into war.

With "patriots" like you we'd be better off with a country full of enemies.

John D. The things Joe Wilson found in Niger were
proven to be true,thus the reason for Cheney,Rove,and Scooter outing Valrie Plame.
A war was started by your President under false
pretenses.Johnny D.don't you think it's time for you to turn on fox news,get out your blowup Ann Coulter doll,and take a nap ??

An additional reality check for the various individuals babbling on about the "yellow cake scandal."

From Factcheck.org (one of the few organizations I am aware of that is genuinely non-partisan, they aggressivey lambaste both parties for errors on a regular basis)

"The famous “16 words” in President Bush’s Jan. 28, 2003 State of the Union address turn out to have a basis in fact after all, according to two recently released investigations in the US and Britain.

Bush said then, “The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa .” Some of his critics called that a lie, but the new evidence shows Bush had reason to say what he did.

A British intelligence review released July 14 calls Bush’s 16 words “well founded.”
A separate report by the US Senate Intelligence Committee said July 7 that the US also had similar information from “a number of intelligence reports,” a fact that was classified at the time Bush spoke.
Ironically, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who later called Bush’s 16 words a “lie”, supplied information that the Central Intelligence Agency took as confirmation that Iraq may indeed have been seeking uranium from Niger ."

RRD

RRD, The cia knew that British intelligence was
off target,the cia told Bush they would'nt vouch
for him,so Bush went ahead with the British report provided by a unreliable source called "curveball".Thus the resulting unprovoked
Iraq invasion moved forward.

Rory - Get a refund on all of your education. It was time and money wasted. With thoughts like yours, now we know why minimum wage is $5.15.

John E. - Better to have a blow-up doll of Ann Coulter than the one you have of Candy Crowley. You must have good lungs.

To be exact, Plame/Wilson have gotten a multi-million dollar book deal with Simon & Schuster:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666039/posts

With the free publicity that Frank James et al will give them, they might even sell a few thousand copies of the (probably ghost-written) book.

John E

And of course, you know more about this than the Senate Intelligence Committee and the UK's experts. Just how long have you personally been a "double nought spy" Mr. E?

RRD

RRD,...43years

John E,

In his Bob Woodward's book he quotes George Tenet telling President Bush "it's a slam dunk," when Bush asked if the intelligence regarding Iraq and WMDs is correct. The CIA is the organization that supplied the intelligence and the CIA director (a clinton appointee I might add) said the intelligence was "a slam dunk."

As already pointed out the Senate Select Committee on INtelligence disproved almost ALL contentions from Wilson. His "fact-finding trip" to Niger has been DISCREDITED.

And Valerie Plame's "outing" has been proven to be much ado about nothing. No indictments from Fitzgerald on her "outing." And you really must read Bob Novak's column, the one who really began this whole thing. No crime was committed in her so-called "outing" and as Novak says he first saw her name in Who's Who. Karl Rove never mentioned her name to him. That is fact, not my opinion.