Katherine Harris on God's intentions

I don't believe God intended to have wack jobs like this in office either. This is the extreme faction that has hijacked the republican party that scares the bejesus out of me. This is the second time she has reared her unprepossessing
head. Next stop"The Spanish Inquisition"

Beliefs – religious beliefs – are personal constructs that all hold in our realization that we don’t know the answers to the most philosophical of questions. Faith and belief are our attempts at satisfying the spiritual quest of the soul. But our nation was rationally founded -- and our law and government was to be rationally crafted based on fact and Socratic debate – and it was designed as the most eloquent experiment in human history -- to insure that government be checked – be balanced – and never allowed to override the will of the people.

Within this invention they also appreciated a potential fatal flaw – and that was the possibility of the tyranny of the majority, and they installed Bill of Rights to insure that even the majority could not transgress the most basic of human freedoms. And that, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Our founders knew little about homosexuality – in fact it has only been in recent years that science and medicine has identified the approximate 3 ½ percent of homosexuals among us, and published the most professional, acknowledged, and peer reviewed conclusions -- that being gay or lesbian is a state of being and NOT a moral choice.

As Virginia voters go to the polls in November they will have the chance to confirm that they are the inheritors of our state’s noble tradition of liberty, equality, and freedom – or they can respond out of ignorance and homophobia, and amend our Bill of Rights for the first time in our history, and institutionalize discrimination in this most basic of documents. And if they do adopt this amendment it will be little different than leaving a burning cross on the front yard of each of Virginia’s 250,000 gay and lesbian citizens.

I'm breaking the 11th Commandment - Will someone kick katherine Harris' butt and make her go away.

The holier-than-thou lunatic fringe hijacked the Republican party. They have now gathered enough rope to hang themselves.

They are destroying the party. It's like watching a train wreck. We can see it coming a mile away, but there is nothing we can do to stop it. All we can do is watch in stunned disbelief.

Ah, we have heard from Queen Supreme of America's very own brand of Taliban. Thank you for telling us how we must think, Queen Supreme. Thank you for showing us that maybe the scourge of Communism as it was known throughout America in the 1950s might have been a better alternative than you and your narrow-minded lot today. Thank you for showing the rest of the world the true imbecilic calling of your one-trick-pony political party: "Religion sells, so let's sell religion." Could you possibly pander any more than that? I think not. Adapting a phrase from Nixon era bumper stickers: "THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT: IT'S NEITHER."

No national republican or really even any republican in Florida endorses Katherine Harris. Yep, she's a wack job.

Harris is yet another Rapture Ready Republican, ready to bring on the End Times. Pretty soon it will be bad family values to mow; you won't be demontrating complete faith.

There are lot's of them in power already. Santorum, Bush, Bush, Foghorn Inhofe, many others.

D.G.Coyne,
We can only hope it's a train wreck, and not a complete success.

From what I have read on different blogs out there...the Republican party is running away from her as fast as they can. She has lost so many campaign managers I am suprised she even has one supporter left!

The sad part about her comments is that they probably will resonate with a portion of the electorate in Florida, the anti-Semites and the rabid Evangelicals.

It also reveals that we must be on guard to protect our way of life. Look at the countries where Islamism is on the rise...Turkey, Egypt, Lebanon, Pakistan. All religious fanatics are comfortable with the idea of a theocracy when they believe it is they who are the ones who will write the religious laws.

Her religious belief animates everything she does? First off, I believe personal ambition animates everything she does. And second, why can't common sense animate everything she does?

No one should be surprised by anything that Ms. Harris does or says. Remember her barely surpressed smile, or was it a smirk?, as she awarded Florida's electoral votes to Jeb Bush's brother?

And now, as she runs for the U.S. Senate, they have decided she is radioactive.

Well, whatsoever a wo/man soweth, that shall s/he also reap.

Harris is right out of the pages of Kingdom Coming - which discusses the influence and rise of Christian nationalism. Make no mistake, the theocracy that Harris espouses, even if she doesn't call it that, is the goal of a minority of Christian fundies who routinely support the Republicans. They believe the current administration is their best friend. They also vote and they are counting on the rest of us to sit on our hands. Unfortunately, too many do sit on their hands.

Harris should be a reminder why voting matters. That's how you keep the whack jobs out of office.

All this Christian righteousness from the woman who did everything she could to fix the 2000 election, block it's investigation and get her knees dirty at the feet of brother Jeb. One more hypocritical whack job rebuplican that is going to guarantee a democratic majority in Nomember. Gosh, who should we thank for this???

I have to hand it to Katherine Harris,at least she admits to being a fake.

I guess she didn't attend the"don't answer questions truthfully,attack the messenger,and change the subject"class given by Karl Rove.

I'm guessing that since Jeb Bush put her in charge of rigging the election in Florida for President DumDum, she thought she could speak her mind.
She forgot the Neo-Con golden rule
THOU SHALL BE IN LOCK STEP WITH DUBYA,
UNTIL ELECTION TIME,THEN TELL VOTERS THAT YOU ARE JUMPING OFF THE DUBYA SHIP,AFTER ELECTION,RETURN TO HELPING THE COMMANDER IN CHIMP
TEAR UP THE CONSTITUTION.

Hey little Johnny D.(JD)
I see that you've become so embarrassed by your own posts that you've changed your post name to JD.......nice try....I can still smell your racist,republican slant

What Harris does not seem to understand God is not a Republican or a Democrat issue. Its what each person believes in their hearts. Republicans think they own the belief in God and know his laws better the any other person. Wrong God don't care if your a Democrat or a Republican he cares about your soul. Grow up is you think thats wrong And if you do go seek help now.

Terry and Bill, If Harris is a whack-job, then what is Bush? I hear the same baloney coming out of his mouth.

“I've heard the call.I believe that God wants me to run for president.”

Asked at a debate in the Republican primary contest in 1999 which philosopher he most identified with, Mr Bush replied promptly, “Christ—because he changed my heart.” At a national prayer breakfast in February 2003, he said he “felt the presence of the Almighty”. The president has talked of making decisions “on bended knee”.

"I believe God did create the world. And I think we're finding out more and more and more as to how it actually happened."

"There is a higher Father who I appeal to."

Every republican in a position to influence this race (George Bush, Jeb Bush, Karl Rove, Carole Jean Jordan who's chairwoman of the state republican party) has been pleading with Katherine Harris to drop out for months. They'd rather run Allan Bense against Nelson but no respectable candidate will touch the race as long as Harris insists she'll stick it out no matter what.

Unfortunately, Harris didnt write the book on this school of thought by herself. She has many co-authors in the country.
Current events, namely the growth of terrorism committed in the name of Islam, have dealt people like Harris a hand of cards - in spades no less, that are being played in this perverse manner.
Her statements, though more overt, reinforce political strategists continuing vigorous efforts to characterize the President as the singular moral leader of the nation. Evidence of this strategy is abundant, from the menu of domestic issues that are pursued by the administration to the ample reminders that Bush is a prayerful, devout Christian. This link is particularly helpful in connecting the dots between people
that have views similiar to Harris and the President.
http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ppt_homepage
The Tribs editorial board aided this strategy, perhaps unwittingly, in their endorsement of Bush in '04 as well. The endorsement urged voters to cast their ballots in favor of Bush because he possessed the "moral certitude" it took to be a great leader. Perhaps the editorial board didnt want to put too much emphasis on his administrative abilities, an error of omission I thought very odd at the time.
Harris is not alone in her belief that Christians are the only people worthy of holding public office, and the growth of this particular brand of facsism http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
should be regarded as particularly dangerous to our nation.

To paraphrase comedian Bill Maher, "it just goes to show what you get when you mix the old testament with Old Milwaukee."

She sounds like she's been hanging around our president too long. Unfortunately she'll probably win the election because she indirectly implied that those opposed to her comments are heathens, its the same thing they did to John Kerry and his wife. Florida is loaded with Christians, she knows what she's doing.

Fox Lies!

JD is the new handle given to John D. by Neutral Lady in the 'Bush Gains in House, Loses in Senate' blog. (Aug 23)

A neat little story. Check it out.

Fox Lies,

Make that Aug 24. (Bush loses ground in Senate, Gains in House)

Any Bush supporter in this forum who thinks that Katharine Harris is a nut necesarrily thinks that Bush is a nut as well.

Here is why.

BUSH IS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN

Bruce Y already said this, but I guess it must be reitereated for all of the Repugnicans suffering from selective hearing. He has said that he thinks God wants him to be president during this time in the world. By his own words, he thinks he was chosen by God to lead the nation against the peril of Islam, using the righteousness of Christianity as both his weapon and God. Bush is just as crazy as Harris.

It doesn't bother you that there is a religious zealot in the White House, making decisions based on his irrational, lunatic ideology?

So, etheryang, by that logic, then, all born again christians are religious zealots? Not necessarily so. There are millions of born again christians in office, several of them quoted in the original post, who condemned Katherine Harris' remarks and who seem to govern just fine without going around and discriminating against the non-religious. The fallacy illustrated in your earlier post, incidentally, is called undistributed middle.

Bush is a born again christian.

Bush is just as crazy as Harris, therefore ALL Born Again Christians are crazy. Do you see how silly this sounds?

Hat-tip to lou kaye.
"Florida is loaded with Christians,she knows exactly what she's doing"
He couldnt be more correct.
To dismiss Harris as a nut-job is short-sighted.
How many people read her comments and how many people agreed with her?
Plenty.

Katherine Harris is the embodiment of today's Republican party: corruption, incompetence, phony made-for-TV imagery, false piety, and insatiable greed. I'm shocked that she doesn't have the complete support of her party.

I think it is hilarious that so many commenters here, most of them apparent Repblican voters, refer to Harris as a whack-job, nut case, whatever.

It was GOP voters who elected Harris to statewide office in Florida. It was Republicans, not Democrats, who nominated her for the United States House of Representatives, and then went on to elect her.

It is Republican voters who are going to nominate her for the U.S. Senate.

It was Republican voters who elected a school board in Dover, PA. that pushed for creationism in science classrooms. GOP voters did the same thing in Kansas.

Think that the GOP is not pushing for an American Christian-based theocracy? You're fooling yourself if you think that this is not part of the Republican agenda.

Johnf and Lou Kaye...I have to say that also florida is a strong hold for the jewish..
I'm not so sure she really knew what she was doing? I think she was spouting and ended up with her foot in her mouth.

Midwestern progressive,

Katherine Harris won an election in a district with both democrat and GOP voters in it. But it was just that, one congressional district in Florida. It does not represent the GOP as a whole. It doesn't even represent Florida as a whole. That's why she's way behind in the Senate race, a statewide election, and Carole Jean Jordan and every other republican bigwig in the state wants her to drop out.

As for the Dover, Pa. school board, I happen to originally be from Pennsylvania and I can tell you that democrat registrations outnumber GOP ones 2-to-1 in the state. I know this might not fit your little diatribe, but there might be more to this whole religion argument than republican theocrat versus crusading, constitutional democrat. If you don't think so just wait until the election season really heats up and we'll start seeing a lot of white democrat candidates showing up at black churches and "clapping off the beat" as Obama so obviously and hilariously observed.

Yes, Bill, it was Democrats that elected Harris, the GOP candidate, to the statewide office in FL. And it was Democrats who, according to your view, crossed party lines to nominate her as the GOP candidate for U.S. House, then voted to actually elect her.

Right?

And it will be Democrats who, on September 5th, will nominate Harris as the GOP candidate for U.S. Senate, correct?

Darn those libbruul Democrats, always nominating and electing Republican theocrats. Probably just to make Republicans look bad. Is that the theory, Bill?

Sorry. It was GOP votes that elected the Dover school board, and it was GOP voters that elected the Kansas school board - Christian creationists, all.

Every Republican bigwig wants Harris out of the race, true. Why? Not because of her thecoratic views, but because she cannot beat Bill Nelson.

That's a big difference, Bill. It is not a hard one to see, either.

Sorry, Bill, it is not me and other Democratic voters who are nominating and electing Christian theocrats. It is Republicans. If you don't like that fact, there is one simple thing you can do to stop it.

I'll leave it to you to figure out what that one thing is.

I think Ben Rothlisberger lost his moxy after his motorcycle accident.
I smell a Super Bowl in Chicago this year.
The pre-season doesn't count.

Now, how about I hook you up with a recruiter,and me,you,and Terry take the fight to the evil Iraqi's??

Bruce Y. I don't think any of Bush's comments on religion come anywhere near the downright horrible assertions Harris is quoted as saying in this post.

So his favorite philosoper is Jesus Christ? So what? I always find it hilarious that people like to harp on this statement from Bush because it's irrefutable that the teachings of Jesus Christ are certainly a potent philosophy, even if you don't believe he was the son of God. For example, let he who has no sin cast the first stone.

The judeo-christian philosophy that western civilization is based on is largely derived from the teachings of Jesus and Moses. Take the ten commandments, for example, where do you think the idea of crimes against society came from? Thou shall not kill evolved into the whole idea of homicide. And thank God it did. That's why the constitution and the declaration of independence refer to God. They were written by men who knew history and wanted their society based on those teachings.

Sure, a lot of horrible things have been done in the name of religion (the inquisition, the crusades, Pope Pious and the Germans) but that's no reason to forget about the landmark teachings of Jesus. That's like disliking the Grateful Dead because you can't stand their fans. Even if you like the music.

Saying he felt the presence of the almighty at a prayer breakfast is an out-of-context quote that just shows Bush in a religious ceremony giving his views. I can't say what goes on between him and his God, and you can't either. I certainly think it's more sincere than when Clinton used to show up at those prayer-breakfasts after a few weeks of cheating on his wife.

I will agree that saying God told him to run for president is pandering. And both parties do it. So it's really nothing to get up in arms about. As Obama said, there's nothing wrong with talking about your religion in public.

"I believe God did create the world. And I think we're finding out more and more and more as to how it actually happened."

This is an out-of-context statement that Bush made when asked about the Big Bang and other theories of how our universe was created. Who's to say God didn't? Do you know? I don't. I also don't know if God or Eternity or some other entity used the Big Bang to create our universe. The classic political question that has no right answer.

"There is a higher Father who I appeal to."

I would argue that every society in the history of time (christian, jewish, native american, buddhist, muslim, incan, mayan, norse, the list goes on and on...) has prayed to a higher authority. I'm not as sure as Bush is, but I certainly hope there is a God. You can call that cowardice or fear or whatever you want but I happen to think that believing everything is over for good once you die is a very sad and defeatist way to go through life. I, as millions of religious people do, happen to believe there's much more to why we're here. If you have that much of a problem with Bush coming out and saying that, then you can see where we differ. But you should understand that a majority of Americans of ALL religions subscribe to the same belief in a higher power as Bush.

If you'd prefer that Bush not say that as president in public, then maybe it's honesty and the truth that you're against and not religion.

billr,

Harris is not concerned about the Jewish vote.
If I held her views I would not care whether or not they voted for me.
Besides, I would hazard a guess that very few or no Jews read the Florida Baptist Witness.
Also, her remarks in this interview can not be portrayed as merely "spouting".
Something said in the heat of a contentious argument, or the heat of the moment, perhaps yes. But the very calm, controlled interview
Harris gave would not indicate that she was just spouting. I'd say these are some very firmly held beliefs of Harris'.

Reg: Katherine Haris - Katherine Harris is crazy like a fox. After all the swampy language that has been hurled at her by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel and the utterly vicious cartoons shown on the its Opinion page, one has to question the motives for these personal attacks. What is somewhat amusing about many of the mean spirited anti-Harris letters in your paper today, is the coarse language used to denigrate her even further because she tries to promote a Christian viewpoint. She should know by now that this is a no-no in our secular driven society.

Harris definitely represents an important part of the Bush Base. I would call it the Bottom of the Bush Base Barrel component.

The whole Repub. strategy is to get several million people to vote against their own interests, thus achieving 51% of the vote.

The strategy is NOT to attain a broad, large victory, say 65%, thus achieving a mandate. Think of what they would have to back to accomplish that? Support of S.Sec., abortion, no gay bashing, support stem cell research, clean environment, much more.

Rather all they want is 51% of the vote, then call that a mandate.

Bill...I will agree that not all republicans support the extreme religious base. However, you must admit that they have the "potential" to hijack the rep. party. We had this discussion before about stem cell research, and the Terry Shiavo fiasco. You said there is nothing in the constitution that gave us freedom "from" religion
but there is. It's the first admendment and the seperation of church and state. As it stands now there are three prongs to the litmus test that the justices use. One being, does this law advance or hinder religion. Bush vetoed the stem cell on a stance that it was unethical. Now was his "unethical" reasons decided by his religious beliefs?
If he were to outlaw pork due to his religious beliefs, That would be over stepping the law.

I do not at all mean that religion is not a valuable thing...just that it should play no part in government.

Wow, there is a lot of hate speech for Christians out there.
Harris is right, it is just like legislating sin to elect a democ-rat.
Isn't that what democrats feared when Bush was getting elected that he would legislate morality.
It is just a balancing of rhetoric so all of you democ-rats should just calm down a bit.
We all know that compromise is the name of the game in politics and she is sure to see her share.
No one party can legislate morality or sin but as both start lowering their standards sin happens.
With sin there are consequences, so if you want to elect a democ-rat or a liberal thinking republican then get ready to suffer the consequesnces because Harris is right on the money,honey!

It's strange how, on the one hand, this country can plough billions of dollars into fighting an enemy that is - I guess for the convenience of people like O'Reilly - assumed to be representative of mainstream Islam, whilst frothers such as Harris, Roberston Falwell and Ashcroft can get away with peddling a message of abject hatred against anyone who happens to disagree with their warped view of Christianity.

I feel far more nervous at the sight of the numerous fundamentalist churches that line the road from home to Dallas Fort Worth airport than I do getting on a plane at the same. Just as OSL and his friends have God on their side, so does this mob. I'd argue that the latter is far more dangerous to America's long term well-being than any other group.

Art Speakman

Either I've just witnessed a rare - for the US - outbreak of sarcasm, or you're seriously unwell.

Should I call your agent or your Doctor?

Art Speakman,
CONGRATULATIONS,you are part of the lockstep Bush loving crowd.
Doe's it count to fanatics that Dubya had a cocaine,and drinking problem before finding God??
How about ditching his National Guard duty during Vietnam,was he heeding the word of god then??
How about leaving Texas in a financial mess,before god told him to start stealing presidential elections,and to start spreading his garbage to the small minded Baptists like you.

I think I'd rather have a Democrat in office,who does'nt try to sell me on his special relationship to god, that just happened to come up right BEFORE he ran for President.

You need to become more like Bill,and Terry,and dodge the issues that you know you are being hypocritical about.

""Bush is just as crazy as Harris, therefore ALL Born Again Christians are crazy." Do you see how silly this sounds?"" - Bill

I did not mean to say that all born again Christians are "crazy," just that they subscribe to "crazy" beliefs.

Born again Christians believe that Jesus died for our sins, that acknowledging this fact will get you to heaven while failure to do so will land you in H E double hockeysticks, and that when the "end times" come, God will execute the "Rapture," during which all believers will spontaneously be brought, bodily, to heaven, leaving nothing but an empty spot where they were just standing, sitting, what have you. Everyone else left on earth will have to duke it out with satan after that.

now, if that's not crazy I don't know what is. You don't have to be crazy to believe it, just irrational and in need of some kind of spiritual connect. This country is religiously tolerant, yes, free from "religious persecution," as it were, but it is sadly INtolerant of a rational discussion of religion, what it is what it does. This is unfortunately because of the fact that questioning one's irrational beliefs is offensive. A perfectly irrational reason to not discuss it.

I don't think the president should be religious. It necesarrily makes for bad presidents because religious people tend to view things through religious lenses, which are also irrational.

On top of the many constitutional violations Bush has committed, the most maddening one is that, with him in office, we have been thrown back into a theocracy, where the separation between church and state does not exist. His legislative decisions prove this. The man makes decisions based on what his God would do, or worse, WHAT HE THINKS HIS GOD WANTS HIM TO DO, and that is not the kind of person who should be running the United States, not anymore. We should be relying on our faculties of reason to figure things out and make decisions based on a reasonable concept of what is best, not on any religious text. The mere idea that religion of any kind has any influence on government should really stick in the craw of anyone who calls themselves an American.

Bill R.

Here's the text of the First Admendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

You're right that about the litmus test but you're leaving out major parts of the argument. Bush didn't veto anyone's ability to do this research. He vetoed government funding of it. Stem cell research is legal and Bush has never interfered with a university's legal right to pursue this research or anyone elses on religious grounds or otherwise. All his veto did was say the government should not be involved in this type of research that destroys embryos in the process. I can't get in his head, I don't know if it was because of his beliefs or not.

But I would argue that the "litmus test" is not realistic. A religion is such a big part of a person's life that it's difficult to imagine anyone putting the type of a wall in their own head to separate their government job from their religion. Especially since this was a country founded by religious christians who never abided by the "litmus test" when writing documents like the declaration of independence.

Anyway, you're right that religion has the potential to hijack government and the party and that's why the safeguards are there. But try to imagine Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., for instance, being driven as he was to start the civil rights movement without the influence of religion. It's not possible. I think if he saw some of the persecution of religion going on today he'd be appalled.

"So his favorite philosopher is Jesus Christ?"

Bill, Art S, other End Time Christians,

This was a statement made by Bush in a debate early in the 00 campaign, and it was a good indicator of why Christians should have rejected him out of hand.

I thought the following was true to Christians;

'Philosophy' is a man made conceit, not the word of God. Jesus, according to your dogma, was the Son of God, sent to us to convey the perfect word of God. He was not philosophizin'.

But the Christian voters ate this one up without a critical thought.

This is the same construct that allows Christians to insist on The Ten Commandments be displayed with other 'historical' documents, but the TCs are the direct word of God as handed down to Moses, not 'historical' documents, like Magna Carte, or the US Constitution, which are, once again, human endeavors.

Another early indication to Christians that went unheeded; While keeping the above mentioned craziness in mind, Bush with Cheney, on a bright sunny day on a stage somewhere in front of an adoring selected crowd of wet hot supports, waving and smiling to their worshipers, called a reporter an a$%hole into an open mic.

I ask you, fair Christian reader; What would Jesus have said?

***********

Another question for Art S.
If your God, Jesus, religion, are perfect, why do you think you are inspiring so much of the hate you are always being victimized by?

Bill.
I read some of the very valid points you made in your comments.
Your observation that most Americans believe in a higher power and should not be ashamed or afraid to acknowledge that belief publicly - politicians included - are points I agree with. All of your assertions are valid in a broader context, but the comments made by Harris are very specific in nature, namely that Christians alone should be allowed to hold public office.
Is this simply an expression of her belief in a higher power? I think not.
Unfortunately, the message coming from people like Harris is that a single belief system, like Christianity, should be held in higher esteem than all others, and should play the LEADING role at the ballot box. Are Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and people of other faiths unworthy or incapable of holding public office?
Why has adherence to a particular faith become such a primary component of the vetting process for determining who should hold political office?
Mr. Speakmans comments are a fine example of exactly why this intertwining of religiosity and politics is unfair at the very least, and dangerous at its worst.
The unrelenting efforts by the Republican Party to define themselves as a "Christian" party, therefore morally superior to all other political parties, is what I find so objectionable.

Bill,

Religion has already hijacked the GOP, and thereby the government, since the GOP has the current occupant, who is a born again Christian, as well as majorities all over the place.

And let's not forget that religion got him there to begin with. The only reason the 2000 and 2004 elections were even close enough for fraud to be a factor is that Bush played the "value vote" game, and appealed to people's abstract feelings and values rather than to their rational sensibilities. If only the dems could find it in themselves to use religion for its true purpose, control, then maybe they could "win" an election.

As far as Dr. King goes, he was certainly a pious man. But you can't tell me that he wouldn't have been a civil rights leader without his faith. If you take his ideas objectively, they were supremely rational. He believed we should see people, not color; hear voices instead of accents. It was the light of reason that illuminated his ideas. If you take the bible literally, you'd have every reason to be a bigot, at least a religious bigot. His faith does not "justify" his views on civil rights, nor does it explain them.

You argue that he never would have been "driven" to the extent that he was without his faith. Did he believe God was "calling" him to this, maybe. But what is that kind of drive? I would argue that it is really, at its base, a kind of purely distilled passion. People experience this passion without religious influence daily. Dr. King's accomplishments cannot be credited to God, however faithful Dr. King was.

Religion can inspire that kind of passion in people, but that, as we well know, is a sword with two very sharp edges, considering that it can also inspire the kind of passion that causes people to burn witches, kill infidels, strap bombs to themselves and generally be completely irrational and necessarily destructive. When religion and reason run together, that is religion at its best, but this is rare and only coincidental.

His position on civil rights was perfectly reasonable, and that is why it is so great. Think about it. So simple, so true.

"...not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

That is reason at its best.

Bill,
Dr.King was not holding an elected position.
He told people what he truely believed,it was up to them whether to follow him,or not.
Dubya, on the other hand, is a complete fraud,bought,and paid for by the southern baptists.

Despite all the comments that everyone writes, I am all for Kathy Harris, because I think she has the right skills and leadership qualities to lead the masses. Don’t judge her by just one statement she has made… understand the message inside

Have you noticed how those who disagree with Ms. Harris in the above comments nearly all use abusive language, hate slogans, name calling, etc. Why is it that Ms. Harris's proponents don't use that kind of language and inuendo?? Duh.
Those who do so are incabable of expressing themselves in a thoughful, useful dialog, just using their views as to why A Christian shouldn't be in politics, and if so they shouldn't live their lives (and influence) in a Godly manner. duh.