Rudy, Rudy, Rudy

The "family values" evangelical Republicans and their brand new puppet John McCain are going to do their best to destroy Giuliani. That's what they do.

This guy has been dodging Hillary for years.Most polls show him as the wing nut front runner,so maybe Hillary will finally get the chance to kick his arse.

Are we finally going to have a "Giuliani Watch" posted on the "Swamp" (aka Obama for President) home page?

BTW, the latest polls (the ones the Swamp avoids mentioning) have Obama down BIG TIME to Hillary.

Hmm, didn't Republicans say President Clinton was evil for cheating on his wife? Giuliani cheated on two of them! Even lived with this mistress. Gotta love the Republican hypocrisy, never practice what you preach.

Rudi can beat Billary hands down. He has National recognition. He has been an ADMINISTRATOR of the bigest city in the country while she has zero administrative experience New York city is much bigger than some countries! Go Rudi! The abortion and gay issues are NOT polital issues, so the conservatives can live with that!

RE: Rudy ready to run
Former NYC mayor files 'statement of candidacy'
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LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON
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By Lucien Bonnet
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http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
The well-known NASA scientist and author of popular scientific works,
Professor Carl Sagan, together with his wife Linda, among other people,
wrote the famous Space Message engraved on Pioneer 10 and meant for possible
extraterrestrial civilizations which might be discovered - who knows? -
somewhere in our Galaxy. Professor Sagan is a master of the art of using
humor, and he is fond of allegories. That is why Lucien Bonnet wrote to
himin the form of a parable on April 10, 1978.
Montreal, April 10, 1978
Dear Dr. Sagan:
It sometimes happens that a dream becomes a reality. That's the case today.
Through Mr. Emil P. Ericksen, Economic Officer of the Consulate General of
the United States of America in Montreal, I am in communication with the
American scientist whose works and research I most admire.
I would like to address a simple message to Professor Carl Sagan and his
wife, who feel, as the year 2000 approaches, that the time is ripe to make
our presence known by sending signals to other possible intelligent beings
in the Universe. The message, which is the result of my patient research, I
formulate as follows:
On the cosmic scale, as on the terrestrial scale, blackness is an integral
part of color and light processes.
My purpose is to inform you of this particular subject and the reasons that
have led me to carry out my research, in the context of the problems of the
very small country, whose history is as tortured as its geography, where I
was born and grew up: Haiti, whose name means "land of mountains". This
country has been faced for years with the difficulties inherent to any
collectivity confronted with a problem of identity. In Canada, where I live
and to which I have become acclimatized, this subject still motivates my
research, propels my efforts and explains the audacity of my words. In the
particular context of a centuries-old conflict, where personal interest and
racial origins confront each other, it is essential that we get to the
bottom of things. At this point, it would be as well to point out that
branch of energy physics, namely optics, where scientific taboos concerning
color, darkness and light are furthered and maintained by trade secrets,
patents and vested interests. A rational search for original, and even
avant-garde, answers on a scientific and intellectual level would seem to be
a necessary prerequisite to establishing a balanced situation.
Not being a "scientist", (car les savants comme l'autruche cachent leur tête
sous le sable pour faire semblant de ne pas voir et reconnaître cette
vérité), but rather, perhaps the most obscure of all obscure researchers of
all obscure ages, I am asking a special favor from Professor Sagan. I would
like him to agree to examine my modest results and the demonstration there
of, backed up by photos and films. Needless to say, they may be freely used
for any purposes deemed necessary to the success of my undertaking. On one
film, I wanted to assemble in my own way the elements and conditions that I
think are indispensable to the analysis and synthesis of colors. I
am submitting four films called "color separations" and the color proofs to
support this finding.
The sentences I quote below are yours. They are taken from an interview that
you gave to a French magazine reporter:
".after Apollo, scientists were discouraged. Do you know why they were
disheartened? Because the sky above the Moon is black. That made them
depressed. Do you think this is a joke? Not at all. Scientists are more
fragile than they look. But the sky above Mars is rose-colored and that gave
them hope."4
4 Delaprée, Catherine " L'homme clef de Viking: Et maintenant il faut tout
revoir.",
(Le Point, August 16, 1976, pp. 48,49) [our translation]
I can see you and Mrs. Sagan smiling, seeming to say, "Roses live the life
span of a rose, the space of one morning."
The solution to the enigma of Space is not a "one-morning" task. Its
darkness of an extraordinary depth, always so secretive and so intriguing,
bordering on despair and insanity, fear and disgust, hatred and damnation, a
consequence of ignorance or indifference, jealously hides incredible
resources that would be of benefit to science, perceived only by such
advanced, and wise, researchers as Professor Sagan.
With all due respect to the biblical Genesis, which from generation to
generation teaches those who wish to hear it their way that "God divided the
light from the darkness" (Gen. 1:4), and with all due respect to Sir Isaac
Newton, who showed us all the colors of the rainbow with his prism, but who
left us in the dark about the greatest unknown of all times, darkness
itself, I insist that darkness - "the black rose of space", arbitrarily
denied as a positive value, always perceived negatively, discreet, hardly
envious of the light which it absorbs, the better to conserve it - has
passed for the absence of light, while in reality it is the extension of
light.
Since the beginning of time, a harmonious and complementary state has
existed between light and darkness, whose equivalent effects are carefully
balanced at the cosmic level, making us think, as sages of all ages have
suggested, like Lavoisier, that in this coherent universe, "nothing is
created, nothing is lost, everything is transformed".
The question we ask ourselves most often is this: "What would our lives be
without light?" All things being equal, and according to the Law of
Conservation of Matter and Energy, we might ask, "What would life be without
darkness?" Whether we say "darkness is an absence of light" or "light is an
absence of darkness", is this not a simple question of semantics?
Reconciling light with darkness is a simple message that any future human or
extraterrestrial space traveler should be able to grasp without too much
difficulty. In the interests of any advanced civilization, obtaining a
workable combination of visible and invisible forms of matter or energy is a
chance to surpass ourselves by extending our own limits.
The so-called luminous part of the Universe, be it ever so brilliant, so
forceful, that it seems to eclipse all the rest, while left in the shadow of
its over whelming radiance, cannot by itself constitute a whole. The latter
is left to the perception and investigation of scientists-but again, we must
have the courage to get to the bottom of things.
The bottom of things is often veiled by mentalities. Mentalities depend on
the human brain. It is interesting to note that the thing we are most proud
of, this wonderful human brain - physically, without our realizing it - has
always functioned in utter darkness. Man's skull constitutes, without a
doubt, the best model of a dark room which has ever been conceived. On the
optical as well as the psychological plane, one can easily imagine what
roadblocks are likely to be encountered. When we wish to refer to the
superior abilities of man, we use the term "gray matter". Gray matter in a
dark room, with or without a prism - what a delicate situation! Isn't it
where all the subtlety lies?
From the gray lunar soil of the Moon and in the concerted harmony of
constructive forms, visible and invisible, of channeled light energy, the
white rose and the black rose of the Cosmos and the possibility of roses in
all color shades - enough to make the sky of Mars blush red - represent the
true challenge of space and the spaceship in modern times. Inertia, spectral
speed, speed equal to or higher than that of light, and the scientifically
controlled reversibility of the phenomenon, what a new synthesis, but also
what a liberation! To compare is not to prove, but the dark hidden side of
the Moon, however mysterious it may be, is not a path of no return.
At the edge of light, there is darkness. At the edge of darkness, we can
find light. Reconciling the "Children of Light" (I Thess. 5:5) - of the
zenith, the rising sun and the setting sun - with the "Children of Darkness"
(I Thess. 5:6) could perhaps one day become a question of scientific
mentality.
"And there was evening and there was morning." (Gen. 1:5).
Could this, Professor, be one of the most harmonious aspects of the vital
cycle of space?
Thank you for your attention to my letter.
Yours very truly,
Lucien Bonnet
NEWTON'S THEORY OF COLORS IS FALSE
Following the article I published in the Montreal daily newspaper Le Devoir
on February 26, 1986 concerning anti-Black prejudice in the West, the
newspaper received reactions from all over Canada, both from the Black
community and from scientific circles. Most people who reached me, while
completely agreeing with me in my analysis of the deep causes of those
prejudices, stated that they were not fully satisfied with what I said about
the harmfulness of these prejudices in the scientific field, especially when
I mentioned, as an example of that contagion, Newton's Theory of colors.
Since not enough space was available in the paper, I could not express my
point of view in detail. So I will now give a concise demonstration of why
Newton's Theory of Colors is false.
First of all, what is Newton's Theory of Colors? Let me remind readers that
the concept of "color" that stems from scientific experimentation is based
on the demonstration in 1665 by the well-known scientist Isaac Newton.
This experiment consists in running a visible light ray called "white light"
through a prism in a dark room, breaking down that light into a continuous
spectrum encompassing all the colors.
Newton thought he had there by proven that white light is broken down by the
prism into a series of seven refracted rays which produced the colors from
red to violet on the screen on which they are projected. He therefore
concluded that white light contains various lights, each one of which is
darker than the white light itself and each of which is part of the whole.
And the darkest of all (real blackness), according to Newton, is simply an
absence of light.
My point of view, which is shared by many scientists, is that when the dark
room, which is actually black, is penetrated by the "visible light ray", it
turns into an area with a mixture of darkness and white light, so that it is
no longer a "dark room". This is the origin of "Newton's error", which is
the result of an incorrect observation.
In other words, the basic elements of his experiment are not what he thought
they were: in the course of the experiment, we are actually dealing with a
quasi-dark or quasi-white room. Consequently, the prism in that quasi-dark
room reflects the real situation; that is to say, the prism itself is
already under the influence of this mixture of white light and darkness.
That fact escaped Newton's notice.
In fact, the prism in the dark room where the experiment was carried out
receives darkness from one angle and a beam of white light from the other.
The prism thereby puts these two elements into action. The incident light
ray is transformed, softened under the effect of the surrounding shade.
Acting as a wave mixer, the prism integrates the white light and the
darkness. It synthesizes them in vitro based on a given degree in the
well-known "Gray scale" used in photography and color television. Under the
effect of the incident ray, which acts like a projector, the refracted, very
subtle gray ray passes through the prism. The continuous spectrum of all the
colors is formed in a quasi-dark room on a quasi-white screen, given that
the spectrum was born of both white light and darkness.
We therefore find that the continuous color scale, as we know it, is
constituted by the breaking down, not of white light, but a mixture of white
light and darkness - that is, of "gray". As the German scholar Johann
Wolfgang von Goethe wrote: "This is the proof of the existence of the law
where by light is nothing else than a mixture of light and darkness, to
different degrees." [our translation] Thus, Newton's theory of colors proves
to be completely false.
Nevertheless, the techniques used in industries dealing with photography,
cinematography and television are still based on that erroneous theory.
In photography, laboratories are quick to discover in their work that the
sum of the colors of the spectrum is gray, not white. That is why they are
compelled to introduce the black color to obtain the white. There you have a
demonstration in reverse that black is an integral part of light and color
processes. Remember that this fact completely escaped Newton's notice.
Unfortunately, even though, in their use and application of the color scale,
photo labs notice Newton's error and correct it in practice, they still do
not make the error more widely known.
Why ?
Some people might say that big industries using color processes - printing,
photography, movies, television and even microprocessors - keep to that
erroneous theory for the sake of major financial interests, especially
concerning patents and trade secrets. In addition, certain anti-Black
prejudices, deeply rooted in Western culture as well as in the field of
optics, have to be taken into account at this "phase of rest and almost
stagnation, rather than theoretical progress".
It is then up to the scientific world today - researchers, university
professors, etc. - to overcome such hindrances and correct Newton's theory,
in order to free the way for progress.
Lucien Bonnet
Article published in the Montreal daily newspaper Le Devoir on April 15,
1986. The author of the article, a
Haitian-born Montrealer, has made a movie entitled "Où vas-tu, Haiti?"
("Where are you Headed, Haiti?").
COLORS, OPTICS, AND RACISM
What if you were asked to upset all the painfully learned laws of optics?
What if you were presented with the hypothesis that white was the absence of
all colors, instead of the accumulation of all colors?
Mr. Lucien Bonnet, a Haitian-born Montrealer and a self-made specialist in
the field of optics, states with conviction that blackness is an integral
part of the light and color process; he has had a lot of trouble getting
laboratories to give him exact copies of photos in which the superposition
of films (yellow, magenta, gray and cyan) produces a black contour, even
though the picture was taken in broad daylight.
Why does Mr. Bonnet keep on insisting on this point? Behind the scenes at
the 17th General Assembly of the International Astronomical Union, he kept
hammering on that unorthodox theory, which, if it were adopted, would
condemn to oblivion a number of authors of physics textbooks.
Mr. Bonnet has written to Professor Carl Sagan, a NASA astrophysicist. He
has seen to it that this letter was published and he still believes that the
scientific world as a whole - especially the world of optics - is not
particularly interested in verifying all hypotheses.
Optics, he writes, "is the exclusive preserve of the scientific world, that
beloved field whose seemingly complicated and dangerous approaches are
actually transparently obvious."
We may easily guess that, through his research, Mr. Bonnet is trying to set
right people's perspectives, to get to the very bottom of anti-Black racism.
He says, "The bottom of things is veiled by ways of thinking" and
"Sometimes, facts are so obvious that they "hit you in the eye" but, like
ostriches, people bury their heads in the sand."
Will Mr. Bonnet's persistence overcome what he calls "aberrant scientific
taboos"? He is, of course, aware of Asimov's work on Black Holes. Professor
Sagan had already let it be known, in everyday language, that scientists had
felt depressed when they found out that the lunar sky was black. So they had
better base their work on Mars with its pink sky!
"Thinkers like Jacquard may praise differences, but the impact of such
statements does not succeed in shaking the scientific and industrial
establishment - who can measure the true influence of Kodak? - which is
quite comfortable in its Newtonian strait jacket," says Mr. Bonnet. However,
he pays tribute to the researcher's mentality of his former teachers, the
Fathers of the Holy Ghost, who did not hesitate to give him high marks, even
though his work ran counter to the official teachings.
Clément Trudel
Article published in the Montreal daily newspaper Le Devoir on Saturday,
August 25, 1979.
THE SPACE AGE, OPTICS, AND RACISM
Racism, more particularly anti-Black racism, shows itself in many ways. But
the general public is only aware of the visible tip of the iceberg: race
riots, various kinds of segregation and obvious racist remarks. The other
part of the iceberg, while less visible, is fundamentally more important and
never ceases to affect human life. It constitutes, in short, a heavy
handicap in inter-human relations and even blocks the road leading to
scientific progress.
One scientist who has found this to be true is Professor Carl Sagan, the
famous astrophysicist from NASA. Through the careful study of cutting-edge
research in astrophysics, among other areas, he was able to detect a set of
anti-Black prejudices which, in his opinion, hinder progress and represent
brakes on the pursuit of new discoveries in the Space Age.
Professor Sagan's astute observation provoked a positive and yet critical
reaction on the part of Mr. Lucien Bonnet, a member of the Black community
in Canada and a specialist in optics, that "exclusive preserve of the
scientific world, that beloved field whose seemingly complicated and
dangerous approaches are actually transparently obvious".
The Western world, accepting Newton's theory, has declared that white is the
synthesis of all the colors; actually, according to Mr. Bonnet, the reverse
is true: white is the "visible" analysis or breaking-down of light or
colors, where as black is the "invisible" synthesis or compounding of
colors.
In other words, according to the author's thesis, darkness or blackness and
thus, by extension, "Black Holes", are a source of energy and light.
This raw material of light energy culminates, at its highest degree of
radiation, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrumin the
form of "white light", to use the common term.
Consequently, "absolute blackness", the absorption of all colors, is a
divisible compound of light. Without any doubt, Newton's theory, in
excluding black, provides only a partial interpretation of the concept of
light. Lucien Bonnet's thesis is intended to show that black is not only an
integral part of the light process but the true synthesis of it. In this
view, the concept of light is thus seen to be a "divisible" whole including
a range of intensities (or colors), where black is the "invisible" (or
absorbed) form of light energy.
It was in order to introduce this new scientific vision of optics that Mr.
Bonnet addressed the above-mentioned, particularly relevant, letter to
Professor Sagan.
This letter, published in booklet form, aroused considerable interest in
Canadian and Haitian circles.
In Canada, two prestigious publications - Le Devoir and Le Québec
Industriel - mentioned it. While the 17th General Assembly of the
International Astronomical Union was taking place in Montreal in August
1979, Quebec's Telemedia Network, including Montreal television station
Télémétropole, interviewed the author, Lucien Bonnet.
In Haiti, the weekly magazine Le Patriote republished in its entirety the
document sent to Dr. Sagan.
Aware that the ideas contained in that document might be of interest to the
Christian world, the author also sent it to the highest authorities of the
Catholic Church, as well as to the Supreme Pontiff, His Holiness Pope John
Paul II.
A full understanding of the elements making up this subject will doubtless
help the reader to consider color problems, like those of optics and racism,
more serenely and objectively from now on.
Article published in the Montreal daily newspaper Le Devoir on June 25,
1980.
The author of this book :
Lucien Bonnet
LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON
Montreal, March 22, 1995
President William Jefferson Clinton
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W.
Washington, DC 20500
U.S.A.
Mister President:
Please allow me to take the opportunity of your visit to Haiti, as President
of the United States of America, on March 31, 1995, to pay due tribute in
all sincerity to you and your distinguished wife, Mrs. Hillary Rodham
Clinton.
You honor Haiti and the Haitian people with your presence and support.
Thanks to you and your allies in the United Nations and the Organization of
American States, the return-to-democracy process has been successfully
carried out. Now that the legitimate President, Jean Bertrand Aristide, has
been reinstated in his official status, it is with legitimate pride, I am
sure that he welcomes you to his country. For you, as well as for us, the
"Uphold Democracy" operation is truly a beautiful historical moment.
Mr. President, I come from Haiti, that underdeveloped country.
With underdeveloped tools - a camera and a few films - I have tried, in
order to serve my country's cause, to demystify the word "light" and
denounce Newton's Theory of Colors.
With that same desire to serve constitutional legitimacy in my country, I
have written the enclosed book entitled Haiti, Let There Be Light! I hope
that you and Mrs. Clinton will accept this privately produced copy,
especially intended for you, while you are getting ready for your trip to
Haiti.
May I make a confession to you, Mr. President? I followed, closely and with
intense interest, your electoral campaign, election, and swearing-in
ceremony as 42nd President of the United States. What a great nation you
represent! Please believe me: your courageous commitment to facilitate the
restoration of democracy in my country has escaped no one. On the very day
of your swearing-in ceremony, I wished to send you my book, Haïti, Que La
Lumière Soit!, which questions Newton's Theory of Colors. I did not do so,
because I felt an English-language version would be more appropriate.
Since I could not send you a copy of the yet-to-be-published English version
of my book, I contented myself with dreaming - dreaming that on one of your
first evenings in the White House, you were seated in the Oval Room with
Mrs. Clinton and your daughter Chelsea. You were reading Haïti, Que La
Lumière Soit! I imagined you carefully examining certain passages of that
work in its English version, which is now in preparation - typed by a
sightless, multilingual Haitian. Those paragraphs deal with the so-called
missing matter, darkness in space, "black holes" - in a word: the invisible
mass of the Cosmos. You notice Dr. Carl Sagan's research on Exobiology and
the DNA found in the dark matter in the universe, and you suddenly remember
a Time article from April 10, 1978 entitled "Black Holes and Martian
Valleys", which contained the following passage:
"A while later, astronomer Carl Sagan (The Dragons of Eden) found himself
lugging his slide box into the Vice President's big new house and, after
coffee, taking the Mondale and Carter families on a journey through the
heavens.
Jimmy Carter is the closest thing to a scientist we have had in the White
House since Thomas Jefferson.
Nixon could not run a tape recorder.
Johnson could not fully figure out his alarm wrist watch.
Not Jimmy. He was fascinated by the discussion of "Black Holes" and the
speculation that they might provide answers to what holds the Universe
together."
"Well," you exclaimed, "O.K. for former President Carter. It is normal for
the President of a star-spangled republic to choose between "Star Peace" and
"Star War". As to the former President's inclination toward Einstein's
physics and/or Planck's Quantum Theory, there is a great temptation to apply
certain laws of the Cosmos to politics and diplomacy. Consider the "Tunnel
Effect", the way that energy escapes from black holes.
"Carter goes back to the sources and draws inspiration from them. That makes
me think about Aristide - both of them are well at ease in both the Western
world and the Black world: the visible and the invisible. However, there is
one difference: the Haitians follow Aristide everywhere, like a comet's
tail. If Aristide is considered as a "Black Sun", then the Haitians are
"space refugees".
"Yes, Haiti! We are pulled down to earth. Democracy. the exodus of the Boat
People. with the Law of Probabilities, whether we think about Planck or
Carter, it doesn't seem that a solution will be found tomorrow.
"What business did the Haitians have in that "boat"?"
"Say, there above, the Black Twin! Is it still broad daylight in the shadow
of the "Black Sun"?"
"Oh God," you say aloud to Mrs. Clinton: "Eureka! I have found it! Fiat lux!
Let there be light! Que la lumière soit! Black holes, black sun, tunnel
effect, Aristide effect, boat people, space refugees, Carl Sagan, Jimmy
Carter, six of one and half a dozen of the other."
There is loud laughter in the Oval Room.
Bill a ri Bill laughed
Hillary a ri Hillary laughed
Chelsea a ri aussi Chelsea laughed too
Humor is American, Mr. President, and so are dreams. Let my book Haïti, Que
La Lumière Soit! be the "dark matter", arguing in favor of the development
of the Black world - visible and invisible!
In the area of science, high technology, creative innovation, and space
exploration, I think there is nothing that America cannot deal with. That is
why, in that spaceship of universal energy, I dare sail with a dream.
In my dream, it is your first trip inside your SPACE AIR FORCE ONE,
propelled by the energy of invisible and concentrated dark matter, like
black holes. A mini black hole of an avant-garde design whose motor sequence
develops inertia, spectral speed, speed equal to or higher than that of
light, and scientifically controlled reversibility of the phenomenon.
What a new synthesis, but also what a liberation!
Synthesis and analysis are two wings of the same bird - contracted and
unfolded at the same time, following the heartbeat of the Universe tamed
inside the infinitely small: "One small step for man, one giant leap for
mankind!"
This would be the natural and constructive counterpart of Newton's Theory of
Light and Colors, which slows down that impulse. This is a necessary change
in the name of development and progress humbly submitted on behalf of Haiti:
a testimony of gratitude toward mankind. Let us go further, to the other
side of the Universe, as suggested by an eyewitness: the Hubble telescope,
with its camera.
". Hubble focused on the centre of the galaxy [M87], an area 500 light-years
across. The pictures revealed a spiral structure formed by fast-moving gas
clouds being drawn toward the centre, rather like water going down a drain."
Dr. Harms said the Hubble spectrographic camera was then focused on points
60 light-years across on opposite sides of the spinning disc. This camera
breaks down light into its wavelength parts, rather like a prism separates
colours in sunlight." (The Globe and Mail, Thursday, May 26, 1994)
Let us in the long run, replace the camera by a motor run by the ENERGY OF
THE YEAR 2000, transforming the DARK MATTER from the invisible to the
visible and vice versa. We would there by take advantage of the sequence of
colored and colorless light speeds, so as to better visit the Universe,
where law and order are transcendent, just as in democracy.
I have decided to write this letter because your leadership, Mr. President,
like an inevitable and immeasurable energy, has practically absorbed me,
allowing me to express myself.
On October 4, 1994, in the General Assembly of the United Nations, a voice
echoed the power of your leadership. In new words, on March 31, 1995, that
same voice will repeat:
"Even now, with the peaceful launching of the operation "UPHOLD DEMOCRACY"
on 19 September last year, a tropical smile has shed light upon the faces of
those who espouse and love peace - Peacemakers, Peacekeepers, and
Peacelovers. Together, President Clinton and we have managed to open up a
"tunnel" of hope after so much suffering."
That testimony by President Aristide at the U.N. emphasizes the magnitude of
the efforts needed to bring about such a happy conclusion.
Your present trip to Haiti is the strongest confirmation of that sequence of
events, and illustrates an unprecedented chapter in the annals of Haiti, as
well as in the life of the Haitian people
Thank you, Mr. President, for associating Haiti with your Strategic
Development Initiative (S.D.I.) at the dawn of the "Star Peace".
Lucien Bonnet
L’auteur, Montréalais d’origine haïtienne, est diplômé en Sciences de la Communication de l’Université de Montréal
The author, from Montreal of Haitian origin, is graduate in Communication Sciences from the University of Montreal.
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FROM : www.Cnn.com:
Cnn.com
96 percent of cosmos puzzles astronomers
Friday, June 20, 2003 Posted: 1629 GMT (12:29 AM HKT)
Luminous matter accounts for only about 0.4 percent of the universe.
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Earth, moon, sun and all visible stars in the sky make up less than one percent of the universe. Almost all the rest is dark matter and dark energy, unknown forces that puzzle astronomers.
Observations in recent years have changed the basic understanding of how the universe evolved and have emphasized for astronomers how little is known about the major forces and substances that shaped our world.
Astronomers now know that luminous matter -- stars, planets and hot gas -- account for only about 0.4 percent of the universe. Nonluminous components, such as black holes and intergalactic gas, make up 3.6 percent. The rest is either dark matter, about 23 percent, or dark energy, about 73 percent.
Dark matter, sometimes called "cold dark matter," has been known for some time. Only recently have researchers come to understand the pivotal role it played in the formation of stars, planets and even people.
"We owe our very existence to dark matter," said Paul Steinhardt, a physicist at Princeton University and a co-author of a review on dark matter appearing this week in the journal Science.
Steinhardt said it is believed that following the Big Bang, the theoretical beginning of the universe, dark matter caused particles to clump together. That set up the gravitation processes that led to the formation of stars and galaxies. Those stars, in turn, created the basic chemicals, such as carbon and iron, that were fundamental to the evolution of life.
"Dark matter dominated the formation of structure in the early universe," Steinhardt said. "For the first few billion years dark matter contained most of the mass of the universe. You can think of ordinary matter as a froth on an ocean of dark matter. The dark matter clumps and the ordinary matter falls into it. That led to the formation of the stars and galaxies."
Without dark matter, "there would be virtually no structures in the universe," he said.
The nature of dark matter is unknown. It cannot be seen or detected directly. Astronomers know it is there because of its effect on celestial objects than can be seen and measured.
But the most dominating force of all in the universe is called dark energy, a recently proven power that astronomers say is causing the galaxies in the universe to separate at a faster and faster speed. It is the force that is causing the universe to expand at an accelerating rate.
Robert P. Kirshner, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, said the presence of dark energy was proved only five years ago when astronomers studying very distant exploding stars discovered they were moving away at a constant acceleration. It was a stunning discovery that has since been proved by other observations.
Kirshner said it is clear now that dark matter and dark energy engaged in a gravitational tug of war that, eventually, dark energy won.
Following the Big Bang some 14 billion years ago, matter in the universe streaked outward. It formed galaxies, thinned out and then began to slow down.
"Dark matter was trying to slow things down and dark energy was trying to speed it up," said Kirshner, the author of a review article on dark energy in Science.
"We think dark matter was winning for the first seven billion years, but then universe went from slowing down to speeding up. ... Dark energy took over."
Kirshner said astronomers do not really understand dark energy. Albert Einstein first proposed a form of the idea, but discarded it later. Now, researchers know it exists, but its exact form and nature are mysterious, although it is thought to be related to gravity.
"What this is pointing to is a deep mystery at the heart of physics," said Kirshner. "We don't understand gravity in the same way we understand other forces."
He said there are virtually no experiments on Earth that would explore the nature of dark energy. It can only be studied across vast stellar distances by observing the motion of objects extremely far away, a skill that has been possible only in recent decades with the development of very powerful telescopes.
"Dark energy will cause the universe to expanded faster and faster and eventually, over time, we will see less and less of it," Kirshner said. Over millions of years, familiar stars and nearby galaxies will disappear from view and the sky, now choked with stars, will slowly darken.
"The piece of the universe that we can see will get lonelier and lonelier," he said.(www.Cnn.com)

Ah, the Loony Left is alive and well. What a shame!
Guiliani may have a couple of skeletons, but he has more of a clue than anything the Democratic party can dish up. Oh and Tony, as one of those Christian Republicans, as of now Guiliani is my guy. He cut taxes as mayor, cut spending, cut crime, made New York a viable city again, he lead bravely on 9/11 and after 9/11, and he understands the war on terror. More than can be said for the vile nonsense passing for the Democratic party today.

Heeeeeeeeeeer'sssss Rudy! Just what we need to shape up this country. A real manager by walking around. Can't you just see him wearing a dust mask storming through the Pentagon whipping the military into action, or on a blitz through baghdad snapping his finger at inept Iraqi whatevers. Folks lets face it, we are going to see him pimp the hell out of 911, even more than the Bush. Look for re-run after re-run of his New York walk throughs.

The polls are too early to mean anything re. this time next year.

These people are all just making themselves fat targets. I understand their motivation is to make themselves viable from a money standpoint.

They are all afraid that if they wait, they will miss the money choo-choo.

Anyway, Rudy is perhaps the sleaziest, easiest to destroy human doppelganger I have ever seen consider running for prez.

I always love it when people like GWB or Rudy try to buddy up to the firemen or policemen and bask in the reflected 'hero' glory.

These are the politicians and the party, that spent their entire public lives trying to destroy our 'heros' unions.

The Nut Cases of the Right Wing of the Republican Party will never let Rudy in.

"Rudi can beat Billary hands down. He has National recognition. He has been an ADMINISTRATOR of the bigest city in the country while she has zero administrative experience New York city is much bigger than some countries! Go Rudi! The abortion and gay issues are NOT polital issues, so the conservatives can live with that!

Posted by: wwii vet | Feb 6, 2007 8:53:14 AM"

But you forget;
The Base hates NYC. Thinks it got what it deserved on 9/11.

Bonnet
Just post the links for long stories.

Lucien --- step away from the computer...go to the garage and get a sledgehammer...now beat your PC into a million pieces and never use go near a computer again......

RUDY GIULIANI WAS MARRIED TO HIS COUSIN,MARRIED TO HANOVER AND NOW MARRIED TO HOTDOG ERR NATHAN.
WHAT A LOSER!

Back here on planet earth, it was Rudy who, while in the Reagan Justice Dept, rounded up Haitian refugees, threw them in camps, and denied they had problems with Papa Doc. How's that for a segue and effort to bring things back on topic?

Rudy has more baggage than a Louis Vuitton showroom, and that's not counting Judith Nathan's handbags. Bring him on.

The abortion and gay issues are NOT polital issues, so the conservatives can live with that!

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Is this The Onion (TM) or other satire? No minimally competent observer would ever suggest that these are not political issues for "conversatives." Unless, of course, "protection of marriage" and "partial birth" abortions are not "abortion" or "gay" issues. It's all about your definition, I s'ppose.

As a proud liberal, I really don't have much problem with Rudy's policies, particularly when compared to McFlipFlop or a loony like Brownback. Nor do I have much problem with Ahnold, a RINO if ever there was one. They're both moderate to liberal (by today's standards) in their actions and policies.

Keep it up, Rudy. Just call yourself a Republican and mindless partisans like WWII Vet will support you even if you call for mandatory abortions. It's all about labels for these folks.

The abortion and gay issues are NOT polital issues, so the conservatives can live with that!

Posted by: wwii vet | Feb 6, 2007 8:53:14 AM

Since when?

Ahhhhhhh.....

President Giuliani!

or

Barak "Hussein" Obama?

Rudy-in 08!!!

Paulo

Dale, it seems you truly have become a tool of the loony left. So how do you like NBC News analysit Bill Arkin calling American troops "mercenaries" and educated folks who have no direction in life so they enter the military. So, while you continue to move into the ultra-left hemisphere, just remember, those new buddied of yours hate you and anyone else who ever served or is serving in the military. Or, are you a hypocrite in your support of the U.S. Veteran??

John D, Paulo,

You guys really think Dale doesn't remember what you guys have said to him?

John D where is your outrage. News Reports of true news not Fox have proved the troops going over are under trained and no equipment to protect them self's. Don't say you support the Troops or Veterans again without that outrage

Did Rudy ever claim that Iraq would be an easy war and it would only last a few months? McCain said in the months leading up that, not only did he agree w/ Cheney, we would be greeted as liberators, but also the war would be easy. Now he is saying he never said that. You can view the comments he made in an interview on Meet the Press. I think that is what is commonly called a lie. That would make McCain a liar. Do we want to elect a liar or a cheater?

The Big 'O will smoke this guy like a three foot bong.

Bring 'em on.

Thank you, Lucien Bonnet, for showing us one of the real issues in this election. If we can manage to elect a female or a "black" president, perhaps we'll finally be able to say we have seen the "light".

Who cares if the person is a Democrat or a Republican? Today those labels are as divisive and artificial as the other "on dits" that we use to separate ourselves from one another, both within this country and without.

I was fascinated by your post, sir. I hope someday that you, your country, and other disenfranchised so-called-minorities get the recognition and respect they deserve.

I am writing this to you as a minor relation of Isaac Newton, and a woman whose father's family was steeped in the persecution of African Americans in the previous centuries. Perhaps, if coming where I have come from, I can understand and applaud your meaning, when the others who have had the benefit of different, less prejudice-laden backgrounds, stop to think for a moment (rather than reacting with thoughtless but heartfelt passion) they will understand and glean wisdom from what you have offered them.

" as one of those Christian Republicans, as of now Guiliani is my guy."

Well, Johnny D, if that's the case, you better start fighting back now against Dobson and his allies, because he is going to go after Rudy with both barrels.

And considering that the far right is about all that's left in the Republican party, it's going to be very hard for anyone to win the nomination without his support.

If he can remain liberal on social issues, conservative on economic issues, and strong on national defense, I will vote for him!

News Reports of true news not Fox

The enquirer?
So any newscast that doesn't bow to the left must not be real news? Whatever, what a joke. CBS is sooo much more accurate, they don't bother letting facts get in the way of the news.

John D Paulo and other right wingers. Breaking News from Bloomberg news Waxman is now looking into 12$ Billion missing from Iraq and all non-bid contracts. Bush and Cheney days are now numbered. Waxman is a bulldog and has all GAO reports. BYE BYE Right wing

Here comes the brutal 'bikini' waxing.
Rip! OUCH! No more! No more! Please! I'll say anything!

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy!

Rudy Guliani's most stunning achievement as Mayor (other than the 9/11 phot ops) was banning ferrets as pets.

The only American politician who owes more to the 9/11 hijackers than Bush is Rudy Giuliani. Without being able to wrap himself in the flag and play on our fears, Bush would have been a one-term failure just like dear old dad. And Giuliani's mayoral administration was in a death spiral, reviled by a majority of NYers, before September 2001.

Giuliani's only real claim to "success" pre-9/11 was his reduction in the crime rate, which he accomplished by pretty much throwing anyone who so much as spit on the sidewalk into jail.

His mostly dismal record doesn't matter in light of his perceived heroics after the attack, but that record will percolate back into consciousness now that he has declared. That, combined with his fairly liberal social positions, will doom any chance in the GOP primary; he'll never get to face HC, BO or any other democratic candidate in the general election.

Interesting that the front runner for the GOP is a Democrat like Rudy.

I wonder which wife/girlfriend of his will be the first lady if he wins?

Sorry, Dale, the troops are trained and equipped. You,though, have become the enemy of the millitary you profess to support. You can go have your date with Jane Fonda now.

Eric LOL are you saying the President was not AWOL. Now that's funny. No one ever claimed the money offered to Anyone who saw him in AL. By the way in 1972 when he cut and ran drug testing went into effect for the Air Force. No Fighter Jock give's up his spot without a fight. No Your President cut and ran while good men where dying.

Frank or Mark,

Why don't you take down the "McFlipFlop" McCain Watch and put up the Guliani Watch.

He is the GOP frontrunner you know.

But does Rudy share the same "family values" as the Bush administration?

...You know, family values like cutting heath care and education to fund war, while giving tax cuts to the rich?

Republicans will vote for whoever uses the word "God" the most.

And Democrats will spread themselves thin over countless candidates without finding a unified voice.

...It's all BS anyway.

I was watching a Hillary interview on Fora.Tv

Man, she's got problems. It's really apparent when you listen in detail that she's completely scatterbrained.

In a real debate, she'd fall down or something.

Rudy Guliani's most stunning achievement as Mayor (other than the 9/11 phot ops) was banning ferrets as pets.

Posted by: Cheryl | Feb 6, 2007 12:03:39 PM

==

And your point is....?

Well, well, well, it seems that we are approaching another chapter in the battle of the designated hitters.

I wonder if anyone will step back from this and see that America is no longer the land of the free and certainly has released its hold on the home of the brave.

Freedom is not a matter of choosing from designated choices. Freedom is a matter of the availability of options. Availability is only potent in the presence of diversity.

So let's call it what it is. The sun striking the skin at a particular angle has caused the human DNA to produce a condition of melanin which allows for greater protection from the more intense solar radiation found at more direct angles of penetration to the ground on a curved sphere. This has been labelled "the black man", "the man of color" etc.

In addition the harshness of the climate in the northern regions of the world has perpetually created a chasm in industrial initiatives which has apparently left the pastoral, tribal man of liesure, again the "man of color" due to the sun striking his skin at a more severe angle and for a longer time than his melanin deprived brother farther north.

The ultimate clash of these two great bioclimactic realities on our globe was never in doubt from the perspective of a shrinking globe. What was in doubt, and I believe is the central question for mankind, that may or may not be being observed for its potential at this time, depending on who you talk to, is whether or not mankind will develop a sense of its biological foundations and the harmony of its divergence within the sphere that it calls home.

Assigning political, economical or religious values to the bioclimactic realities of our world is nothing more or less that pinning the tail on the donkey or swinging at a hanging pinata blindfolded. There is nothing divine about something so humanly contrived. I say humanly contrived not from some point of view that originates a thinking man as the point of origination but as an observer who notices that there is too much anthropomorphisation when you convert the effects of latitude into political, economical and religious delineations which define the way in which the creature so effected must live of cease to exist.

How shallow and ignorant we are. We stand here debating the greatness of our country and the world we live in when the most basic of facts escapes us as unimportant or worse yet as twistable into anything we wish for political, economical or religious reasons.

I for one am ashamed socially to be born on this planet. I for one am hopeful personally and within my own family unit that these differences MUST be integrated. Our family is multiracial. America was designated "the melting pot" where the best of all races came to mingle and produce a NEW PEOPLE not of any one race but of them all. So far this is not happening as lines of distinction are blurring the real need the world has for this melding. If an example in one country of the melting of all peoples into one fantastic people can be the goal of all peoples then we can see the beginning of the end of wars like we see in Iraq, Afghanistan, Korea, Haiti, Cuba, Venesuela, Isreal and the West Bank/Gaza, Iran, Georgia, The Splintered Peoples of Chech Origin, etc, etc, etc.

May God, who transcends all religions, thoughts, endeavors and estimations of Godhood, have mercy upon us as we reach up in blindness like a newborn creature striving to find its maker to secure survival.

OhMyGoodness

From Lawrence O'Donnell at the Huffington Post

"Giuliani's losing campaign is also going to pull a lot of pro-choice, independent voters away from McCain in the general election. McCain has had very strong appeal among those voters for years because, among other things, they don't quite realize how hard-core his anti-abortion position actually is. When Republican primary voters discover how liberal Giuliani has been on social issues--along with how many wives he's had and how many gay men he has lived with while waiting for a divorce to come through--they are going to abandon him faster than Democratic voters fled from Howard Dean. But the only way they are going to "discover" Giuliani's record on social issues is for John McCain to tell them about it. McCain's campaign has the most vicious attackers in politics today, including Bush campaign graduates and the Swift Boat attack team. They are going to make Giuliani look very bad to conservative voters, but, in the process, they are going to make McCain look bad to moderates he will need in the general election. "

Oh Dale, your lunacy is getting worse. From 1968-1972 George Bush put in way more hours than necessary in the NAtional Guard. Here Dale and the rest of the distorted loony left are the facts about George Bush and his National Guard Service:

The future president joined the Guard in May 1968. Almost immediately, he began an extended period of training. Six weeks of basic training. Fifty-three weeks of flight training. Twenty-one weeks of fighter-interceptor training.

That was 80 weeks to begin with, and there were other training periods thrown in as well. It was full-time work. By the time it was over, Bush had served nearly two years.

Not two years of weekends. Two years.

After training, Bush kept flying, racking up hundreds of hours in F-102 jets. As he did, he accumulated points toward his National Guard service requirements. At the time, guardsmen were required to accumulate a minimum of 50 points to meet their yearly obligation.

According to records released earlier this year, Bush earned 253 points in his first year, May 1968 to May 1969 (since he joined in May 1968, his service thereafter was measured on a May-to-May basis).

Bush earned 340 points in 1969-1970. He earned 137 points in 1970-1971. And he earned 112 points in 1971-1972. The numbers indicate that in his first four years, Bush not only showed up, he showed up a lot. Did you know that?

That brings the story to May 1972 — the time that has been the focus of so many news reports — when Bush “deserted” (according to anti-Bush filmmaker Michael Moore) or went “AWOL” (according to Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee).

Bush asked for permission to go to Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. His superior officers said OK. Requests like that weren’t unusual, says retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971.

“In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots,” Campenni says. “The Vietnam War was winding down, and the Air Force was putting pilots in desk jobs. In ’72 or ’73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an obligation and wanted to get out, no problem. In fact, you were helping them solve their problem.”

So Bush stopped flying. From May 1972 to May 1973, he earned just 56 points — not much, but enough to meet his requirement.

Then, in 1973, as Bush made plans to leave the Guard and go to Harvard Business School, he again started showing up frequently.

In June and July of 1973, he accumulated 56 points, enough to meet the minimum requirement for the 1973-1974 year.

Then, at his request, he was given permission to go. Bush received an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months and five days of his original six-year commitment. By that time, however, he had accumulated enough points in each year to cover six years of service.

During his service, Bush received high marks as a pilot.

A 1970 evaluation said Bush “clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot” and was “a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership.”

A 1971 evaluation called Bush “an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot” who “continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further.” And a 1972 evaluation called Bush “an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer.”

Having lived in NYC while Rudy was mayor, I can only wring my hands with glee for when his past record comes into play during this campaign. He was a HORRIBLE mayor and not environmentally friendly at all. Don't let the 9/11 bravado fool you--yes, he did react well during the tragedy, but there is a hellish adminstrator behind the facade who is no friend to the middle-class.

Link, please, John D. This sounds like you're channelling one of the many repuke bottom boys for bush.

The polls the "Swamp" never publishes (including the same Gallup poll the Democrat side of they reported on) have Rudi in the GOP lead. A lot of conservatives must be backing him for this to happen. Lefties can't understand this, but then, there's a lot of things Lefties can't understand.

One poll has 31-27-13 Giuliani/McCain/Romney. Another poll has Giuliani with a 10 point lead over McCain head to head.

Anybody who wants to learn about the news should go anyplace but the Tribune. The Tribune covers political news like the Cubs win pennants.

Interesting stuff, John D.

But please cite your source of information for us or provide a link, because right now you're plagiarizing.

Dale P.,

W. bypassed thousands of more deserving kids on a waiting list to get a homebound National Guard spot during Nam.

He spent most of this time drinking and avoiding Guard drug tests.

Little Johnny fails to mention the best parts of W.'s military "service".

John D,
why are you letting facts get in the way of the "truth"? He was AWOl, just ask Dan Rather.
lets look at the Bush Awol story. President Bush missed his flight duty physical. Well since the Physical is only mandatory if you plan to remain on flight status, it's not required. The Memo that was supposedly typed while Bush was Awol was typed in a font that didn't exist for years afterwards. The memo came from a person sympathetic to the Kerry campaign. It was proven to be a hoax. but again, let's not allow the facts to cloud the truth.

John D Your President was not seen by a ground crew a pilot on his six. Not in AL. or Mass. Show me one who did. Again you show no understanding of the Military at all

Dale, the above cites his National Guard time. When he was part of the Alabama National Guard, it was toward the end of his time in the Guard. He already put in more than enough years and time requirements by then. Fact is, he was still SEEN in Alabama and the whole CBS faked forged memo-gate proved he was taking part in Alabama.

And for little pitiful Catherine, there is no such thing as a Repuke, but there such as thing as a Demoncrap. And the information I provided came from the Hill, the newspaper for all political junkies in the DC area.

This John D. character is a tool for Fox News and Sean Hannity/ Rush Limbaugh. He is overdosing on them and spinning and flopping.
What's Bush's approval rating these days?? What about Cheney's??
Does Giuliani actually believe he deserves to be President because he was mayor of NYC on Sept. 11, 2001?? What are his other qualifications?? What mayor wouldn't go to ground zero?? He's not qualified to be President and he doesn't stand a chance of even being nominated. Giuliani should be investigated for doing absolutely nothing for protecting NYC from when the WTC was first attacked in 1993 until Sept. 11, 2001.

the whole CBS faked forged memo-gate proved he was taking part in Alabama.

Posted by: John D | Feb 6, 2007 2:12:25 PM

All that proved was the documents were forged and faked. Not one person has stood up and said they remember serving w/ George W. Bush when he was supposedly reporting for duty. Unless you have newly revealed proof that says otherwise and you will need to cite and source it since you have a history of lieing and making "facts" up.

John D,

Well if it came from the Hill, show us a link. You must have copied and pasted it from somewhere, especially with all the direct quotes you included.

Unless you were using parenthesis to emphasize your own thoughts and agenda on his service record, kind of like how Paulo puts quotes around Barack Obama's middle name to promote his.

John D never call me a liar again I always have proof.

Washington Post Ann Scott Tyson
Equipment For Added Troops Is Lacking
Boosting U.S. troops levels in Iraq by 21,500 would create major logistical hurdles for the Army and Marine Corps, which are short thousands of vehicles,armor kits and other equipment needed to supply the extra forces, U.S. OFFICIALS SAID.

I'm not so dim as to expect the likes of Eric B. or John D. to trouble their heads with any information that even slightly tends to remotely suggest that any status less than sainthood would be appropriate for GWB. After all, look how hard they fight just to prove the rather unimpressive "accomplishment" that their hero was not AWOL, but instead did the minimum to skate by with an honorable discharge from the Guard, all the while avoiding service in Viet Nam.

But for others who are not so close minded...Even those who dislike GWB as President acknowledge that he's pretty much universally regarded as an amiable and gregarious guy on a personal level. He's great at remembering names, kids' names, etc. He was president of his fraternity and still recounts found memories of his days at the fraternity house.

Given this, how do we explain that: 1) no one from the ANG unit claims to remember him being there; 2) two people from the unit have come forward and directly stated, on the record, that he was not there; 3) Bush has failed to identify one single person with whom he supposedly served at the ANG? Doesn't common sense suggest that the best explanation for these facts is that GWB, in fact, did not show for duty in Alabama? If that's not the best explanation, I'm interested in hearing a better one.

Here is one thing that just will not change: Those who are Hard Core Republican (Paulo) and those who are Hard Core Democrat (Dale) will never beable to agree and possibly convinve the other to see his point of view. This is a futile attempt at shouting at the Computer with NO result. It is the non-partian American (and yes, we are the majority) who will decide this election as we have done all other elections. At this point, Americans are leaning Democrat because Bush has screwed up America. "Traditional" Republicans many are not. If both the Republicans and Democrats would stop legislating morality, we would all be better off. Neo-Conservative Christian Republicans: Teach your own children morality and the world will be better place, "Loony" Liberal Democrats: Teach you children how to save the world and it will be a better place.
Any time one side or the other pushes its version of morality, they are usually revieled to have their pants down: Rudy, Foley, Clinton, etc.
Most Americans realize that Rudy did what any mayor of a major American city would have done if its city was attacked: Rudy did nothing special, he behaved the way a Democrat or a Green would have acted, so lets not attach God-like status to Rudy.

Buckley

John D again your busted in your lies.

Today Gen. Pace in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee admitted equipment will be a major problem when U.S forces in Iraq are increased.

Again Gen . Pace same Committee said U.S. forces being deployed are seven to eight months short of the training needed for this mission.

Opps John D this is a Gen. your a what

Wow the demented mind of Doug R. "Guiliani should be investigated for doing absolutely nothing for protecting NYC from when the WTC was first attacked in 1993 until Sept. 11, 2001." What exactly was Guiliani to do to protect the buildings from hijacked airplanes. And in reality, disaster and evacuation plans were established after the first attack.
What are Guiliani's other qualifications? Well, he has been a U.S. attorney and one who brought down top mob bosses. He worked in the Justice Department. Major crime plummeted in NYC duirng his tenure as mayor. He lowered taxes and cut spending. He brought the city away from entering bankruptcy. NYC worked better under his helm. He made NYC an attractive place to go to again for tourism and business. And he bravely lead the city on Sept. 11 and beyond. And as a Republican he won two landslide elections is a largely liberal and Democratic city.

Dale, please provide a link. I did some googling and didn't find what you claim. However, I did find this, which showed that health care spending on the military has practically doubled since 2001, from $18 Billion to $37 Billion. Sort of knocks some of your contentions out of the park, huh?

And here is the link:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2006/20060207_4140.html

And here is the link to the Hill item on Bush and the National Guard:
http://www.hillnews.com/york/090904.aspx

Blinkin,
The President is not a saint to me nor do I agree with everything he does. His actions on the border with Mexico is one example. But I have the right to defend what I believe are correct actions in other areas and to put my OPINION in when other people put in their OPINIONS. And unless you have served in the Military then you have no true idea of what is involved with service of even the National Guard. Don't degrade others service if you have not served yourself. If you have served (unlike you I won't assume you did not serve) then you can join me in degrading the air force.

"One poll has 31-27-13 Giuliani/McCain/Romney. Another poll has Giuliani with a 10 point lead over McCain head to head."

What is your "liberal media bogeyman" spin on why the "liberal media" isn't reporting that REPUBLICANS are supporting an extremely liberal RINO by a large margin at the moment? I'd love Giuliani to get the nomination. Then we can watch two liberals duke it out.

And maybe while we're at it we can have a serious discussion of the cataclysmic level of failure by our government on 9/11. Apparently, our government WAS aware of threats like the ones that materialized on September 11, but their response was at best pathetic and at worst criminal. Condoleeza Rice's "we could not have known that planes would be used as weapons" is among the most monstrous lies this administration has propagated (its pretty hard to pick the BIGGEST lie among all of the whoppers). http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?before_9/11=militaryExercises&timeline=complete_911_timeline .

Does that provide all of the info from W.'s military service that is blacked out Little Johnny?

I didn't think so....

"Rudy, Rudy, Rudy" outweighs "Hillary, Hillary, Hillary" any day, week, year, century et.al. The last time Hillary heard her name said three times was when she almost walked in on Bill and Moonica.
There are several people I went to school with, including the truants who would be a better presidential choice than Hillary. I bet Canada hopes she doesn't win. They will get a influx of people who feel the McKenzie brothers are a better option than Hillary.
Obama, I don't care if you quit smoking, JUST BEAT HILLARY.

My personal opinion is that the world is still unable to handle the first female or first african american president.

What you will probably see happen is ex-vice president Al Gore will make his announcement to run, and Hilary will eventually drop out and run along side Al Gore as his Vice President running on the same ticket.

These 2 will have some powerful cred with the Democrats and could prove to be a winning team.

Eric:

Your hero was not in the U.S. Air Force, he was in the ANG. And I do not degrade the ANG by pointing out that serving stateside in the ANG is not the same thing risk-wise as serving in Viet Nam. Bush knew full well that if he served in the ANG, he was not likely to risk losing his life at all, let alone to hostilities, and exactly the same can be said of others in the ANG. If those facts are degrading, so be it.

All of which dances around the main problem with Bush: he "supported" the Viet Nam war politically, but was unwilling to show his support through his actions. He got political "cover" by serving in the ANG, but lacked the courage (or possessed the brains) to actually risk having to fight.

Your military service is admirable, but it does not make your political views correct. The fact that I never volunteered for service does not preclude me from expressing my own views.

John D go to C-Span bring up the Committee and watch for yourself. Unlike you I watch real news right from the Committees

Giuliani and FEMA conspired to lie about the air quality in manhattan after 9.11. They falsified reports, with his knowledge, and now people who volunteered to work at ground zero and clean up the rubble are dying from crazy cancers and other diseases caused by the contaminated air.

He was coordinating the city's response from building 7, or so the story goes. Does anyone here know what happened to building 7 at approx. 520 pm on 9/11? It collapsed. Who were the other tenants in building 7? Offices run by the CIA, FBI, NSA, and other government agencies. What were they doing in there all day, all those official government people and disaster team-members? They were making sure that everything that needed to be destroyed was there to be destroyed while operatives wired the rest of the building for demolition. You would think building 7 was covered in the "offical 9/11 commission report," but you will find that as far as the Commission was concerned, building 7 never existed because there was no mention of it in the entire report.

Why building 7? Why did it collapse so mysteriously? It wasn't hit by a plane. It had small fires on a couple of the floors. That building was destroyed to destroy evidence of what they had planned to execute since before 9/11: the invasion of the middle east and the systematic burglary of the American TAXPAYER, from our pockets into those of Cheney's and Bush's friends and business partners, not to mentiong the Israelis and the Saudis, who helped 9/11 happen.

Sorry folks, 9/11 was an inside job, and we're all seeing the consequences of it today. The patriot act was already written before 9/11. Google PNAC. Google the afghani pipeline, who we were negotiating with the TALIBAN about building before they pulled out, then 9/11 happened and "oh! OSama did it. He's in Afghanistan. Let's goooo!!!!" and we invaded.

There's really no such thing as a democrat or a republican once you get to Washington and you're elevated past the level of staffer or junior congressman. Its about whether or not you're willing to do what the CFR and the Trilateral commission want, or not.

See JFK AND JFK Jr, and Bobby for what happens when you don't do what they want. See the Bush family for what happens when you do.

Heck, Prescott was a Nazi. He ran a Nazi bank that was seized by Hoover in 1942. Look it up.

And to those of you who condemn this as insane lefty rhetoric, or "loony lefty" as John D likes to spout, I can only hope that you pull the veil from over your eyes and realize that the world is run by a very small group of the richest people in the world and they do not care about us. they care about continuing to remain in power and continuing to line the pockets of themselves and their friends.

We haven't lived in a democracy in over a hundred years, if in fact we ever did. With Bush on the throne while Cheney puppeteers behind him, we live in a kleptomaniacal plutocracy, and if you read enough news, you will learn that now that they've got the middle east just how they want it, (chaotic), they've launched their war against the middle class and the poor. If all goes according to plan, in a couple generations, America will be a 3rd World Consumer Plantation, where there is hardly a middle class at all.

But the Rockefellers, the Harrimans, the Bushes and their Saudi Oil Rich billionaire Royal friends as well will still be in control and that is all that matters to them. Their continued survival at the very top of the food chain, and damn all else. If you doubt that, take one look at what we've intentionally done to Iraq and in Afghanistan and you will see that Bush isn't an incompetent moron, everything is actually going according to their plan.

JohnD.,
I read your link authored by Byron York, a contributer to the National Review and American Spectator. I think he meets the criteria for a repuke bottom boy. The article is very detailed up until the important time in question. Then it gets very vague. Bush gets permission to work on a Senate campaign. Mr. York doesn't even mention whose campaign it is. Even Wikipedia doesn't name the campaign. Now that's fishy. I can't believe that not one person has come forward to say they were with George in Alabama or wherever he allegedly was. Show me a link to that story and I may consider not thinking you're a tool.

You sillies need to get over The Bush's military service, or lack thereof. He has sucessfully snookered everyone about that. What is more important is the question to be asked is this: Is America better off with The Bush in office than Iraq is with Saddam enjoying his virgins in nirvana?

Rob Norris,

Wrong agency. The EPA tested air quality and falsified reports at the behest of the WH (just as they have re global warming).

Government agencies were scattered throughout the WTC complex. When the Center was first opened the only tenants available were government agencies. It took years for commercial tenants to fill the buildings. Even presidential limosines were lost in the destruction of the main towers.

Guiliani, with his penchant for drama, had a self-contained emergency ops center built at 7WTC, a privately-owned building (unlike the main complex, which was owned by the Port Authority of NY/NJ) connected to the main World Trade Center complex by a footbridge over Liberty Street. The command center had its own diesel powered generators, which ignited. No firefighting equipment was available (you can understand why with hell on earth across the street). End of building. End of storm except for the insurance companies.

Happily, the new 7WTC is open for business.

Blinkin,
my comment about the air force was a tongue in cheek comment about my disregard for the airforce. And don't say he is my hero like you know me, just because I defend him on some points doesn't make him my hero. In short, grow up Blinkin.

Kenny-

Yes, the WH was the source of the order to falsify the reports, but Giuliani knew about it and went along. As his reward, he's being given a chance to run for pres. He'll likely lose, but he'll get a sweet book deal out of it and then he'll get a job shining Bill Kristol's shoes for $2 million a year and probably a Senate shot.

As for the generator fires causing the perfectly symmetrical collapse of a 40+ story building, that's just not possible. It was clearly destroyed by controlled demolition. Google the video and there's no way you'll see it fall, see the roof cave in just before it goes down, and then it just sinks right out of sight, producing huge amounts of dust. You can't explain a diesel fuel fire bringing down a huge building in that manner without any other help.

Oklahoma City, Federal Building. Half the building blown completely away, it had fires as well, and it managed to stay standing. You can't possibly believe that a fire would bring down a building like building 7. There's actually no historical precedent for a building collapsing due to fire.

As for no firetrucks able to put out the blaze, it's completely moot, even moreso when you consider the fact that the building surely had its own sprinkler system, and considering the importance of the tenants and the value of that building (it smoldered for several hours after the towers fell and it wasn't inaccessible due to debris), you'd think they would have been able to send a crew in from someplace, like a neighboring town (because of course, as you mentioned, the sheer magnitude of the disaster would have brought every fire engine from miles around) and put out the limited fires that were still burning.

For all of those who criticize me for using the phrase "Loony Left," all one has to do is look at the looniness and ignorance submitted by one Rob Norris and one Catherine, or even a John E above.
Rob Norris thinks the U.S. attacked itself on 9/11. Catherine is a clueless demoncrap, and John E, well he is just plain John E. Enough said.

John D,
Let's examine why you reserve so much venom for women that make valid counterpoints to your posts. We've seen it w/ Janet and now Catherine. Were you not held as a child?

Rob,

Conspiracy guesses make for interesting reading and movies, but it's simply not so.

No firefighters meant 7WTC was left to burn -- not moot. The sprinkers didn't work because there was little/no water pressure left in Lower Manhattan. The building eventually fell much later in the day (well after the twin towers) and did not do so "perfectly symmetrically." Much of its pink granite facade was strewn across Liberty Street.

How do I know? I was there.

John D:

While I am not necessarily sold on the 9/11 conspiracy theories, I think you mischaracterize the issue by suggesting the theory is that "the U.S. attacked itself."

George Bush and his neocon puppeteers are not the U.S. If the CT holds -- and there some good reasons to believe it (PNAC) -- then the accurate statement is that George Bush attacked the U.S.

Are you so completely enraptured by GWB that you can't even concede the possibility that he would do something like that? Do you lack sufficient examples throughout history to believe that people in power will do horrific things in order to advance their own interests? Or do you just stop your "analysis" at the notion that GWB is a "good man" and a self-proclaimed "Christian"?

I'm rubber. You're glue. Everything you say, bounces off me and sticks to you.

Since disagreeing with you, brings out your inner child, I'll behave in the same way.

John D,

My father is a structural engineer with 30 years experience. He generally poo poos the conspiracy around 9/11, even though there was an inordinate amount of military activity and enough fishiness for anyone with half a brain (you can be excluded from this group) to at least ask the questions that have never been asked and in fact aggressively avoided.

On WTC 7, though, he says, "I gotta say, that is impossible to explain."

WTC 1,2 and 7 were the first (and only) reinforced steel structures to EVER collapse. WTC 1-2 were specifically designed to take the impact of multiple full-sized jet airliners. The evidence of the largest crime scene in history was judicially carted away.

Lower Manhattan is the most heavily sprinklered area in the world, it is unlikely that the damage a block away destroyed all of their built-in firefighting ability. Diesel fire does not burn hot enough to melt steel. The collapse undoubtedly looks controlled, as eyewitness Dan Rather remarked on that day.

The building housed our most secretive and powerful agencies. The official story of 9/11 refers to Larry Silverstein's "pull" request. This term is not ambiguous, he told firefighters to bring the building down to prevent further loss of life. What no one asks is who "pulled" the building and how it was able to be "pulled" without having been pre-wired. It must just be a coincidence that the only buildings brought down on 9/11 were controlled by Larry Silverstein, and the only buildings that survived were not owned/ leased by Silverstein.

John D, you don't need to believe any of the conspiracy stuff. Instead, tell me why our systems failed so cataclysmically to prevent against a KNOWN threat. There were drills going on all over the East Coast and elsewhere that day, which aided in the initial confusion. Maybe you can tell me that 9/11 did not have an inordinate amount of war games activity, but what if it was truly unusual? Was that just lucky/ unlucky timing? When Condoleeza Rice said that "no one could have anticipated planes being used as weapons" she was ignoring at least 10 years worth of evidence and a similar threat in July 2001 on the G8 summit that caused the meeting to be rung with anit-aircraft batteries. Yet she was promoted, and no one has ever questioned that statement with any depth.

Here is a link to the war games leading up to September 11, 2001. I don't know if I believe the wildest theories, but I want to know why no serious discussion has taken place concerning the cataclysmic failure of U.S. defenses on that day. The answer does not need to be nefarious for those questions to be asked. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?before_9/11=militaryExercises&timeline=complete_911_timeline

"A liberal is in search of the truth and conservatives think they already know it."

jethro and the rest of the loons, since Catherine likes to call Republicans, Repukes, I just thought I would return the favor by calling her a demoncrap. See, how that works? And sorry, both Catherine and Janet clearly have shown they are not capable of intelligent thought, much like John E., so it has nothing to do with gender. Anyway, I had and thankfully still have the most wonderful mother and two incredible grandmothers and one fantastic great grandmother in my life.
But the loony left, which keeps spouting Bush attacking America, clearly are the folks with no love in their lives and apparently were left to dabble in their own dirty diapers for days on end as one reason why they spout nonsense as adults.

Kenny,

You didn't need to be in Manhattan on 9/11 to be able to judge now whether or not the building fell straight down, at near free fall speed, in a symmetric fashion. You can watch it on video from several different angles. Of course, when all that mass that makes up the building hits the ground, it's debris will make an unsightly pile, like the granite in the street you saw. That's after the fact, after the collapse. I'm talking about the collapse itself.

As for anyone wanting to familiarize themself with contemporary US political history, start with the assassination of JFK. The people who caused his death and then covered it up since then are still in power today. Also check out "The Secret Government" by Bill Moyers for a deeper look at US covert involvement in some of the most underhanded and evil regime-change operations that have ever been carried out.

Face it, John D. The idea that the US is still the world's shining beacon of freedom and civility that it once was it just wrong. America is not what you think it is, because those who control it do not subscribe to the idea of "America." To them, we may as well be cattle.

And as for "America attacking itself," it wouldn't be the first time, John D. Find out what actually happened at the Gulf of Tonkin incident and you will know. The reports have been declassified. Or look into the near sinking of the USS Liberty by Israeli aircraft at the order of then President Johnson in cooperation with Israel in an attempt to provide justification for a US ground invasion of Egypt. Google operation Northwoods. They couldn't sink the ship even though they killed 34 Seamen, so naturally the response was, "whoops, we attacked your ship by accident for over 2 hours. No, we didn't see the flag. We thought that you were another ship."

But really, aside from all of that, doesn't it bother people that they lied to your face about never imagining someone hijacking a plane and flying it into imporatant civil/government buildings? They had imagined it years ago in a plot to hijack a plane, crash it into the pentagon and then blame Castro. The information exists and it's real. These people have no souls, they have no duty to anyone but themselves and their superiors who got them there to begin with.

There will be another American revolution, maybe not in our lifetimes, but there will be, and it will be in response to the truth of who/what is causing American foreign policy to be what it is and why. If there's no revolution (it need not be armed, it could be done legally through the courts with criminal charges) then America will surely die, long before the world runs out of oil.

But hey, when Bush's Carlyle Group buys this rag of a paper and everything else the Tribune Company owns (including the Cubs), we can look forward to right-wing trolls like John D in every thread. Yay!

John D, do you have a wife?

I did find this, which showed that health care spending on the military has practically doubled since 2001, from $18 Billion to $37 Billion. Sort of knocks some of your contentions out of the park, huh?

And here is the link:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2006/20060207_4140.html
Posted by: John D | Feb 6, 2007 3:08:32 PM

John D:

At the time of this posting, I have just finished reading all posts in this thread. NOWHERE does Dale Peters make any comments regarding the costs of military health care. Were you responding to some other poster, or are you trying to divert the topic away from the subject at hand?

BC