Good morning.
Here are a few Washington events of note for Wednesday, February 7, 2007 as collected by the Associated Press.
The House Foreign Affairs Committee is holding a hearing on the international relations budget for fiscal year 2008 with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. 10 a.m.
President Bush is going to Shenandoah National Park to discuss the National Parks Centennial Challenge, 12:10 p.m.
Feb. 4 - 7. INDEPENDENT COLLEGES — The National Association of Independent Colleges and Universities holds its 2007 meeting, ``Charting Our Course.’’
8 a.m. NAICU Prayer Breakfast with Wanda D. Bigham, Assistant General Secretary, Division of Higher Education, The United Methodist Church, and Incoming Chair, NAICU Secretariat.
9:15 a.m. Rep. David Loebsack, D-Iowa.
10 a.m. Presentation on ``Preparing for the Worst,’’ with Martin Cetron, Director, Division of Global Migration and Quarantine, Centers for Disease Control; and Camille Welborn, Special Advisor to the Secretary on Pandemic Influenza, U.S. Department of Education.
Location: Hyatt Regency on Capitol Hill, 400 New Jersey Ave. NW.
Feb. 4 - 7. RESERVE OFFICERS — The Reserve Officers Association holds its Mid-Winter Conference and Military Exposition.
11:30 a.m. Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Thad Allen speaks at the Coast Guard Affairs Committee meeting.
7 p.m. Banquet honoring Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss.
Location: Washington Hilton & Towers, 1919 Connecticut Ave. NW
Feb. 6 - 7. COMMERCIAL SPACE TRANSPORTATION — The FAA holds its 10th annual commercial space transportation conference,’’ Space Transporttaion -- Competing in a Global Market.’’
Location: Sheraton-Crystal City Hotel, 1800 Jefferson Davis Highway, Arlington, Va.
Feb. 6 - 7. HOMELAND SECURITY — American Military University holds a two-day conference, ``Homeland Security: The Ripple Effect.’’
9:30 a.m. Session on lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina, with Lt. Gen. Russel Honore, former Commander of the Joint Task Force-Katrina.
12 p.m. Luncheon speaker - former Sen. Gary Hart.
3:30 p.m. James Gilmore, Chairman, National Council on Readiness and Preparedness.
Location: National Press Club.
8 a.m. CLONING — More than 100 cow-costumed marchers weave through the streets to Capitol Hill to call attention to the truth and clone-sequences of the FDA's stance on cloning.
Location: Start at various locations and march to the Capitol area at Maryland and Pennsylvania Aves.
8:30 a.m. CUBA AFTER CASTRO — NDN, a progressive think tank and advocacy organization, hosts a panel discussion, ``After Fidel: A New Day for America’s Relations with Cuba and Latin America?’’ Participants: Congressman William Delahunt, Chairman of the Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights and Oversight; Janice OConnell, Professional Staff Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee; Julia Sweig, Director for Latin America Studies, Council on Foreign Relations; Miriam Leiva, Cuban Dissident via phone from Cuba; Sergio Bendixen, President, Bendixen & Associates; and Joe Garcia, Senior Vice President, NDN (moderator).
Location: Phoenix Park Hotel, 520 North Capitol St. NW.
8:45 a.m. - 11 a.m. EXTENDED SCHOOL DAYS — Education Sector hosts a forum, ``6.5 Hours a Day, 180 Days a Year?,’’ featuring a panel of experts who will debate whther expanding the school day and school year would increase learning, especially for struggling students. Participants include Andrew Rotherman, co-director, Education Sector; John Chubb, chief education officer, Edison Schools, Inc.; and An-Me Chung, program officer, C.S. Mott Foundation.
Location: National Press Club, Holeman Lounge.
9 a.m. USTR SEMINAR — The Carnegie Endowment holds its 7th annual Former USTR Seminar, with Carla Hills, Mickey Kantor, Clayton Yeutter, Charlene Barshefsky, Bill Eberle and Bill Brock.
Location: 1779 Massachusetts Ave. NW.
9:30 a.m. TEEN DATING ABUSE — There will be a press briefing to announce a new survey on Teen Dating Abuse and Technology, conducted by Teenage Research Unlimited (TRU) and initiated and supported by Liz Claiborne, Inc, showing how dating abuse, control and intimidation have been magnified by cell phones, social networking sites, and instant messaging. Briefers will discuss the formation of loveisrespect.org, a national Web-based and telephone resource to help teens experiencing dating abuse.
Location: National Press Club, Murrow Room.
9:30 a.m. - 11 a.m. BALANCED BUDGET — The Brookings Institution hosts a discussion with a panel of experts who will discuss their bipartisan plan of spending cuts and tax increases to balance the budget in the next five years, and set the nation on a sustainable fiscal course for the long run. Participants include G. William Hoagland, former director of budget and appropriations for former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.; Charles Stenholm, former member of Congress from Texas; and Isabel Sawhill, a Brookings senior fellow. David Wessel, deputy bureau chief of the Wall Street Journal, will moderate the panel discussion.
Location: Brrooking Institution, Falk Auditorium, 1775 Massachusetts Ave. NW.
9:30 a.m. - 12 p.m. HIGHER EDUCATION-VOLUNTEERING — As part of its regular meeting, the Corporation for National and Community Service’s board holds a panel discussion on higher education, volunteering and civic engagement.
Location: Corporation for National and Community Service, 8th floor, 1201 New York Ave. NW.
10 a.m. CAT AND DOG FUR — Reps. James Moran and James Ferguson hold a news conference with the Humane Society of the U.S. to announce the ``Dog and Cat Fur Prohibition Enforcement Act.’’
Location: Room 1116, Longworth.
10 a.m. - 12 p.m. HAITI — The United States Institute of Peace hosts a discussion, ``Haiti: No Longer a Failing State?’’ Participants: William Zartman, School for Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University; Stewart Patrick, Center for Global Development; and Robert Perito, U.S. Institute of Peace (moderator). Zartman and Stewart Patrick have just returned from meetings with President Prival and other Haitian officials, and will discuss the findings from their trip and their research on failing states and the U.S. national interest.
Location: U.S. Institute of Peace, 2nd floor conference room, 1200 17th St. NW.
10:30 a.m. FAVORITE ARCHITECTURE — The American Institute of Architects holds a press brefing to release a survey ranking Americas 150 favorite pieces of architecture. Results span across country and include well-known and obscure buildings, monuments, bridges and stadiums in big cities and small towns. The fallen World Trade Center is included in the rankings. Participants: RK Stewart, President, American Institute of Architects (AIA); Christine McEntee, Executive Vice President and CEO; a Harris Interactive representative; Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., and others.
Location: Room 2105, Rayburn House Office Building.
10:30 a.m. U.S.-VIETNAM — The American Enterprise Institute holds a discussion on U.S.-Vietnamese diplomatic, military and economic relations, with keynote speech at Noon by Raymond Burghardt of the Easat-West Center.
Location: 12th floor, AEI, 1150 17th St. NW.
11 a.m. ORAL HISTORY — Members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Corporation for Public Broadcasting President Pat Harrison, others, hold kickoff ceremony for StoryCorps Griot, an effort to preserve and honor stories of every day African Americans.
Location: Botanical Gardens, Capitol Hill. Note: use 1st St. entrance.
11:10 a.m. CHAO — Labor Secretary Elaine Chao speaks to the Women of the World Symposium.
Location: U.S. Chamber of Commerce, 1615 H St. NW.
11:30 a.m. - 1 p.m. TURKEY — The Southeast Europe Project hosts a forum, ``Turkey’s Roadmap for the 21st Century: Internal and External Factors.’’ Participants: Dr. Turhan Comez, Member of the Turkish Grand National Assembly (AKP); and Dr. Orhan Ziya Diren, Member of the Turkish Grand National Assembly (CHP).
Location: Floor Board Room, Woodrow Wilson Center, 6th floor Board Room, 1300 Pennsylvania Ave. NW.
12 p.m.- GLOBAL HEALTH — The Council on Foreign Relations hosts a discussion, ``The Challenge of Global Health.’’ Participants: Laurie Garrett, Senior Fellow for Global Health, Council on Foreign Relations; Helene D. Gayle, President and CEO, CARE; and Susan Dentzer, Health Correspondent, Head of the Health Policy Unit, The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer.
Location: Council on Foreign Relations 1779 Massachusetts Ave. NW.
12 p.m. KASHMIR — The Kashmiri American Council and the Pakistani American Leadership Center hold a discussion on the India-Pakistan peace process and prospects for peace in Kashmir, with Dennis Kux of the Wilson Center, Pakistani Amb. Mahmud Ali Durrani, Ghulam Nabi Fai of the Kahmiri American Council, others.
Location: Room 340B, Rayburn.
12 p.m. OVERSEAS-BUSINESS — Rick Ness, President Director of Newmont Mining Co.’s Indonesia subsidiary, discusses the Indonesian criminal case against him and the risks of multi-national corporations doing business in developing nations.
Location: National Press Club.
12 p.m. ZINNI — Retired Gen. Anthony Zinni participates in a discussion on the frontline vision of America’s power and purpose, sponsored by Georgetown University.
Location: Bunn Center auditorium, Georgetown University.
12:30 p.m. - 2 p.m. EGYPT — The Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution will host Ahmed Aboul Gheit, minister of foreign affairs for the Arab Republic of Egypt, to discuss these crucial issues in the Mideast, as well as the way forward in U.S.-Egyptian relations. The session will be moderated by Martin Indyk, director of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy.
Location: Brookings Institution, Falk Auditorium, 1775 Massachusetts Ave. NW.
2 p.m. LIBERIA-DEBT — Liberian debt cancellation advocates deliver more than 4,000 Valentines to the Treasury Department, urging Treasury Secretary Paulson to ``have a heart’’ and cancel the debt.
Location: Outside the Treasury Department, 15th and H Sts. NW.
4 p.m. - 5:30 p.m. STATE DEPARTMENT CABLES — National Archives experts will address the challenge of electronic records in a series of lectures in February. Today’s talk, by Michael Carlson, Margaret Adams, David Mengel, Marvin Russell and Don McIlwain, will focus on ``A Case Study on Content Management in the Face of Format Changes: State Department Cables.’’
Location: University of Maryland’s McKeldin Library, College Park, Md.
5:15 p.m. CHINA — The School of Advanced International Studies sponsors a discussion with Earth Policy Institute President Lester Brown on ``China as a Consuming Nation: What It Means for the World.’’
Location: Kenney Auditorium, 1740 Massachusetts Ave. NW.
6 p.m. NIGERIAN ELECTIONS — American University holds a forum to discuss the April 21 elections in Nigeria, with Philip Carter III of the State Department, others.
Location: Butler Board room, Butler Pavilion, Amerifcan University.
6 p.m. - 8 p.m. LEGAL JOURNAL — The Board of Directors, Board of Advisors and staff of the American Constitution Society, along with the Board of Advisors and senior editors of the Harvard Law & Policy Review (HLPR), host a reception to mark the publication of the inaugural issue of HLPR. The publication, founded and edited by Harvard Law School students, is the official journal of ACS and a new vehicle for the dissemination of important ideas on a wide range of legal and policy issues. Remarks will be delivered by Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala.
Location: 1333 H St. NW, 10th floor.
All times local in Washington.
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Comments
Hate to say it, but I'm beginning to think this war won't end until Bush's term does.
His ego is on the line, and he won't back down.
Of course, he can't "win," either, whatever that means.
So he'll use whatever political tricks he can to keep fumbling along, and the next president will have to pull the plug.
Posted by: bb | February 7, 2007 7:16 AM
bb,
Sad to say it, but I agree.
Posted by: Leo T | February 7, 2007 7:58 AM
All hail the power of religion......Ted Haggert
is cured...3 weeks and he is CURED!
All hail All hail!!!!!!!
Posted by: bill r. | February 7, 2007 8:45 AM
I don't think the war will end even after Bush leaves office, based on the current behavior of the opposing party. We'll have to see how this unfolds, I guess.
bill r. -
Is your problem with Ted Haggard specifically or all "born again" Christians? I'd hate to think you're globalizing...
Posted by: no name | February 7, 2007 9:17 AM
no name,
Is" your problem with Ted Haggard specifically or all "born again" Christians? I'd hate to think you're globalizing..."
If you don't find even mild amusement in the fact that this unbelievably unholy man (not in his sexuality, but in his promiscuous drug-induced promiscuity) has been "healed" of his biological homosexuality (in 3 weeks no less!!), you have no sense of humor whatsoever nor a concept of the word "irony."
Of course, his "healing" fits in neatly with the RR's concept of homosexuality as choice and one that is made in connection with the devil. Its a twofer, like Fox News falsely pinning the Obama madrassa story on the Clinton camp.
Finally, what is it that Republicans don't understand about hypocrisy?? When you set yourself up as the upholder of all that is good and decent (which excludes ALL homosexuals whether they are in monogamous relationships or not) and turn about to be much sleazier than the average person (again, that is not his gay act that I am condemning, but the drug-raddled and over-the-top frenzy of it all), you are going to get skewered for not practicing what you preach.
It would be best for society if people like Haggard and his organization would just leave homosexuals to live their lives in peace and focus on more pressing issues. But as long as they continue down the path of blaming gays for the world's ills, they will be unceremoniously and publicly disgraced when it turns out that they are exactly what they preach against.
Posted by: Bryan | February 7, 2007 9:49 AM
Yes I have a problem with all born again. In my life I can tell you that "most" people I have met and dealt with that are born again will let you down. It's the same with Haggard. Puuulease..
3 weeks and he is cured form homosexuality? This is what I see from most born again and agains.
Posted by: bill r. | February 7, 2007 10:50 AM
bill r.,
"Terrible" Ted Haggard went to "gay rehab".
Leave it to the Evangelicals to believe that nonsense.
Posted by: John E. | February 7, 2007 12:06 PM
John E,
Yeah, I read all about Ted H. this AM! He is "completely heterosexual" now!
(this is going to be so good.)
Posted by: C.Morris | February 7, 2007 12:46 PM
bill r. -
Thank you. I was just wondering if you had encountered people to make you think as you do. It's a shame that some people have given a bad name to what is generally a good thing.
Bryan -
Wow. You have a disappointing habit of just adding your own assumptions onto whatever I post. Did I mention anything to prompt your repsonse? No. I will say one thing to all of you...there is no proven "biological" homosexuality. Which means at least as far as we know right now, it's a choice of lifestyle. Whatever your viewpoint on the issue, please make sure you deal with facts.
Posted by: no name | February 7, 2007 1:14 PM
"Flat Earth" no name,
Provide us with your name and you will get your gay "facts".
Posted by: John E. | February 7, 2007 1:46 PM
I wonder what the 'therapy' was?
Prayer and contemplation, I am sure.
noname,
This is one of those hilarious happenings, than no one takes seriously. It's funny.
No one thinks Ted has magically changed, or that his preferences are any different than three weeks ago.
This kind of snake oil is just what makes the RR look silly.
Posted by: C.Morris | February 7, 2007 2:01 PM
It's not my place to speak for no name, but s/he always seemed pretty bright to me, and I think s/he gets humor and irony. Probably also understands that people can't be "cured" of homosexuality as well.
(In fact, I'd venture a further guess that s/he is engaging in a little irony or sarcasm here too.)
The question was do Libs dislike ALL "Born Agains". Or at least the Liberals here, that is.
And the question seems to have been answered.
What say you, no name?
Posted by: Leo T | February 7, 2007 2:44 PM
Hmm...
Just noticed no name's post above, and I guessed wrong about the "cure" thing.
I think I'm right about the irony and sarcasm, tho.
Posted by: Leo T | February 7, 2007 2:46 PM
All...I would like for all to understand that my feelings towards "born agains" is not a statement on religion. It is that I have found many born agains find this a quick fix for whatever ails them.
Posted by: bill r. | February 7, 2007 2:53 PM
Gee,why am I not surprised that "Leo T" steps in to defend "no name" hhmmm????
Posted by: John E. | February 7, 2007 3:12 PM
bill r.,
Understood.
It's the first thing that convicts reach for in prison.
If it helps their minds,so be it.
Posted by: John E. | February 7, 2007 3:15 PM
Yes, my original comment was to determine the origin of bill r.'s remark.
But actually, I am questioning whether or not people can be "cured" (not really the best term to use but that's what we're working with today) of homosexuality. Bear with me on this one...
My problem with this line of argument is that I've never seen or heard of definitive scientific proof that homosexuality is biological. I think this has become generally accepted "fact" in the media and popular culture, but as far as I can tell this is a choice of lifestyle. Unless there's been some kind of study/proof put out there that I'm unaware of.
Posted by: no name | February 7, 2007 3:29 PM
noname...I have never heard of an admitted gay man
going back to being straight. With all the stigma atached to being gay, wouldn't you think more would revert to being straight if it was a lifstyle?
Posted by: bill r. | February 7, 2007 4:16 PM
"The question was do Libs dislike ALL "Born Agains". Or at least the Liberals here, that is."
I think the word 'dislike' is problematic.
Many of my in-laws claim to be 'born again'. Now, I think it's a silly thing for them to say. Just another 'business plan' a segment of the religion industry has come up with that they have subscribed to.
But I don't dislike them at all. In fact, I love them like family.
Now, Mrs. C.Mo really dislikes the born again religions. Grew up chafing under their yoke, so to speak, now she the hollaback girl.
Posted by: C.Morris | February 7, 2007 4:19 PM
I'm not really qualified to talk aout the science of it. But I have to say that it just doesn't make sense to me for somebody to choose to be gay.
I mean why would anybody CHOOSE to be a pariah? The butt of jokes? A punching bag for skinheads? So I tend to believe that there must be some kind of physical/medical/genetic or whatever reason for it. Seems to me the burden of proof would be on the "it's a choice" side.
And bill r, I HAVE heard of homosexuals claiming to be cured. It's very rare -- I don't know whether to believe them or if they're just fooling themselves -- but I have heard that.
About religion: I'm not pointing a finger at anybody here, but there tends sometimes to be an anti evangelical reaction by a lot of Left/Liberals. That's just wrong on a number of levels.
Posted by: Leo T | February 7, 2007 5:24 PM
Leo T...You got my point. I do feel it is not a choice but some other drive, be it biological or whatever.
You may feel an anti evangelical reaction, but I speek for myself....I see a lot of hypocrisy in it. Just speeking for myself.
Posted by: bill r. | February 7, 2007 6:07 PM
"I mean why would anybody CHOOSE to be a pariah? The butt of jokes? A punching bag for skinheads? So I tend to believe that there must be some kind of physical/medical/genetic or whatever reason for it. Seems to me the burden of proof would be on the "it's a choice" side."
Thank you Leo T for saying what I have always believed. Why would 10% of the population CHOOSE to suffer the indignities that homosexuals consistently feel? I'm sure there are people who do choose to be gay, but it is hard to deny that the vast majority of these folks made no choice, and in fact many of their parents saw signs at a very early age, whether they chose to accept them or not.
No name,
As Leo T said, the onus is on you to prove why so many people would "choose" to be pariahs. That you find no humor in this whole hypocritical situation limits my hope for you.
Posted by: Bryan | February 7, 2007 6:09 PM
P.S. I don't "hate" born-agains per se, but the hypocrisy of having been "born again" and therefore wiping away a life of sin so that the born-again can sit on a high horse and preach to us "lost souls" is at best obnoxious. George Bush was Born Again in his 30's, but in his earlier years he was an alcoholic who experimented with drugs and had no serious purpose, failing at business after business and being bailed out by Daddy. A lifetime of sin is not wiped away in one fell swoop, at least in my humble opinion. If being Born Again inspired more humility, I would be less contemptuous of it.
And frankly, I think almost all religion inspires believers to see themselves as "on a higher plane" or just plain better than non-believers, those of different beliefs, or even those who do not believe in the same ideas as strongly. It unites rather than divides, and is a largely malignant force across humanity (Eastern religions largely excluded). A world without organized religion would be a more peaceful place.
Posted by: Bryan | February 7, 2007 6:14 PM
About homosexuality -- I just don't know. The cause might be not be genetic.
Psychology (which is perhaps how to look at this) can be pretty complex and often an iffy science. Behavior can be influenced by experience, but also physical causes such as chemical imbalance, chromosomal anomalies... I'm in the dark.
Bryan,
I know what you mean, but you're making some pretty sweeping statements about religion and religious people. Too, too much so.
I mean, the attitudes you describe apply to every atheist I've ever met, but don't apply to some religious people I know.
You're painting a picture with a broad brush... yeah, I know, I do that too sometimes.
Posted by: Leo T | February 7, 2007 7:20 PM
"And frankly, I think almost all religion inspires believers to see themselves as "on a higher plane" or just plain better than non-believers, "
Bryan,
Exactly, that's why we have to try to keep them out of power.
Born agains are simple folk. I don't dislike them, but I don't want them in a position that allows them to make important decisions for the country. Look what they have been doing in congress.
Next thing you know, Henry James is banned, and you are being
'reconciled by ordeal'. (Look out red heads.)
I don't see Brownback or Santorum or Robertson as any better than Inquisitors that just happen to be one constitutional amendment away from an American Inquisition.
These people need to be marginalized, moved away from power.
Did you read their gibberish re; the Terri Schiavo case, or the stem cell debate?
Posted by: C.Morris | February 7, 2007 7:29 PM
C Mo,
Everytime W. shuts the door to the oval office and dials up god on the hotline for answers, I fear the worst,i.e. Iraq....
Posted by: John E. | February 7, 2007 9:30 PM
Why such a shameful cowardly coverup!
Your pilots attack and kill a British serviceman and wound others.
Only after a british judge investigates and the UK press release video do your fellow countrymen decide to 'de-classify' the actual video to an event that happened in 2003.
Believe me - over here it shows to the extent of coverup- cowardliness and down right disrespect towards your 'allies' that we all are feeling at the moment. Truely disgraceful!!!!!
I don't expect this to be posted, but if it does, I hope you feel suitable ashamed for allowing this Iraq situation to continue.
Posted by: Mark Skillen | February 8, 2007 4:29 AM
C.Morris,
What about born again Jimmy Carter? Was he talking about banning books? No. In fact lately he is a staunch critic of the school boards that water down science texts!
And what about Barack Obama, the Golden Boy du Jour? Not only does he belong to a fundamentalist Christian church, he is actively courting the fundamentalist vote. So are you now going to withdraw your support for him?
You say "we have to try to keep [the 'Born Agains'] out of power." Should we also keep the Catholics out of power? The Jews? Their religions -- any religion -- will also have tenets that you and I don't accept.
Keeping [fill in the blank] out of power is antidemocratic.
The point is to preserve the secular nature of our republic. To keep church and state seperate. And doing so does not mean to suppress religion. The founders were very clear on that.
Posted by: Leo T | February 8, 2007 5:34 AM
Leo T,
You bring up a good point about Carter. He won that election in part because he screamed his religion from the rooftops. Ford, at least as religious of a man, refused to wear his religion on his sleave and saw it as a private matter. I side with Ford on this one. Believing in G-d or Jesus does not necessarily make one a better person. If it does, great. Mix the belief in with politics and you get the modern Republican Party: a dichotomous crew of G-d worshippers and Dollar worshippers, who have agreed to leave their differences to the side in the name of state-empowered religion and the almighty dollar.
Does anyone really believe that Jesus would be a Republican?
Posted by: Bryan | February 8, 2007 1:34 PM
Jesus would be a Commie.
My point is that Carter wore his religion on his sleave and yet Church and State remained seperate... and that's exactly how he wanted it.
Kudos to him.
There's a big difference between being open about ones religious beliefs in politics and trashing the constitution by establishing a state religion. The former does not necessarily lead to the latter.
Posted by: Leo T | February 8, 2007 2:15 PM
PS: By the way, the Edwards post today is a great example of the some of the Left's religious bigotry that I'm talking about.
And I'm not attributing that kind of malevolence to you, CM or bill r, tho.
PPS: By the way, in case you're assuming that I'm religious, I'm not. But even if I were, it would be beside the point.
Posted by: Leo T | February 8, 2007 2:35 PM
PS: By the way, the Edwards post today is a great example of the some of the Left's religious bigotry that I'm talking about.
Posted by: Leo T | Feb 8, 2007 2:35:41 PM
Leo T...I agree, there is truely some on the far left who are anti religion. I assume you would agree there are some on the far right who are just as dangerous with their religion. Thankfully
there are people like us somewhere in the middle.
I might add, there are a lot like us in the middle. The silent majority!
Posted by: bill r. | February 8, 2007 3:05 PM
Bill r,
Agreed.
Posted by: Leo T | February 8, 2007 7:21 PM
Sorry for leaving the conversation everyone. I posted and then got too busy to respond. Again, I was simply pointing out the lack of scientific proof that homosexuality is genetic or whatever. Whatever you feel about homosexuality, I'm just wondering why people assume something that hasn't been proven. I hate to see so many arguments based on that kind of thinking.
I too have heard of those who claimed to be homosexual and now are not. If homosexuality has not been proven to be genetic, then this could be possible, right? And, there should not be a problem with that.
Posted by: no name | February 9, 2007 3:50 PM
hey check out this story about the coast guard...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaFdnmtimP8
Posted by: mike | April 7, 2007 1:30 AM