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Posted March 14, 2007 2:10 PM
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Posted by Frank James at 1:48 pm CDT

In defending the Bush Administration's firing of U.S. attorneys, some commenters on The Swamp have claimed that such firings are commonplace.

While they would be right about such actions having happened at the start of presidential administrations, they're wrong about such terminations occuring at other times in the life of an administration.

National Public Radio aired an interview this morning with David Burnham, co-director of the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse which works on determining trends in federal data.

Burnham was asked by interviewer Renee Montagne about how unusual such firings are when an administration is well underway.

MONTAGNE: How unusual is it for a U.S. attorney to be fired?

BURNHAM: It's very unusual. Richard Nixon fired one when he was in office. [Jimmy] Carter fired a U.S. attorney who was making an investigation of a Democratic House member that he wanted to keep in office. Bill Clinton fired one. But it's really very rare for this to happen.

MONTAGNE: In this case it was eight attorneys.

BURNHAM: That is close to unprecedented. … I did a book on the Justice Department, and I just have never seen something like this.

Now, that being said, when a president comes into office, historically, all the U.S. attorneys leave. And he appoints a new set of these individuals — there are about 90 of them. And… they are sort of in charge of federal enforcement in each of these districts. And they can be very powerful and influential in deciding which cases are prosecuted and which kinds of cases are not.

MONTAGNE: What seems odd to the outside observer is that these attorneys were Bush administration appointees, and they were fired mid-term.

BURNHAM: It's very odd. And what makes it even odder is that with the data we have, you can see that the U.S. attorney in San Diego [Carol Lam] was not following the party line. Immigration enforcement went down, weapons enforcement went down, and she's fired. The U.S. attorney in Seattle [John McKay] appears to have been following the party line and he's fired — so what the criteria were for these firings is murky.

Couple that with Joseph diGenova, a conservative and former U.S. attorney and independent counsel saying on another NPR program that the firings revealed administration "incompetenceand it becomes harder for administration defenders to make the case that this was political business as usual.

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Give them what they want, fire Gonzo ... then bring back Ashcroft. That'll show 'em.


Now Frank, you know better than to use NPR as a source for any info.
You know NPR is triple-double-super-liberal and does not support the troops.

The typically smarmy put-down from Bruce is undoubtedly pending, if not already submitted by the time this posts.

Bruce! The NPR warning light is flashing! Alert! Alert!


Insert bruce media attack...


These firings were a club to kick the rest of them into line. Somewhere there is a U.S. Attorney with a situation in front of him. Political leaders want some action against an opposing group or person. If this Attorney does not comply, he risks being labeled "failed U.S. Attorney" and any hope of a political career is ended.


Yeah,

I listened to the interview, interesting and enlightening. Now be prepared for Crazy John Devola to call NPR a liberal sham, bruce to label you and the "Libune" as pinko, commie, leftist enablers, Paulo (now posting under Dale Peters) to do all of the above. None of them will address the issue, of course, that's just not in the rabid right playbook.


The big media deal is that President Bush did something "unusual"?????? No accusation of anything illegal, or even unethical--just that it's "unusual"????

In other words, Frank James is admitting there isn't any big story here.

As to media bias, here's a poll you'll never see mentioned in the "Swamp":

"Zogby Poll: Voters Believe Media Bias is Very Real

Institute for Politics, Democracy, and the Internet/Zogby Poll shows American voters are skeptical political motivation may be behind blogs run by mainstream news organizations

The vast majority of American voters believe media bias is alive and well – 83% of likely voters said the media is biased in one direction or another, while just 11% believe the media doesn’t take political sides, a recent IPDI/Zogby Interactive poll shows.

The Institute for Politics, Democracy, and the Internet is based at George Washington University in Washington D.C.

Nearly two-thirds of those online respondents who detected bias in the media (64%) said the media leans left, while slightly more than a quarter of respondents (28%) said they see a conservative bias on their TV sets and in their column inches. The survey, which focuses on perceptions of the “old” and “new” media, will be released today at the PoliticsOnline Conference 2007 at GWU. It is also featured in the March issue of Zogby’s Real America newsletter, now available on www.zogby.com"

Isn't it funny how the "Swamp" runs articles every day on polls, except for polls on media outlets like the "Swamp".....


Bruce,

Give it up on the "liberal media" myth, will ya?. The media has been charging right ever since telecommunication laws changed that allowed multiple media outlets to be owned by large corporate conglomerates. Guess which way most of the media conglomerates lean (hint:guess which political party gets the large majority of their contributions?). Media today is right of center, center by your definition being anything left of Mussolini. Here's the figures:

http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html

Also Bruce, since you're so fond of the Zogby Poll that speaks to "real Americans", here's the Zogby Poll that says 59% of real Americans think Bush should be impeached for illegal wiretapping:

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2

Remember Bruce, sometimes you have to go with the poll you have, not the one you want.


Hey Brucie,

I noticed yesterday that you were on the Pace story site bashing gay people alongside the Evangelical wacko's.

After reading your Obama postings I'm guessing it wouldn't be much of a stretch for you to admit that you're a racist also ???

Why do you hate America Bruce ???


Insert bruce media attack...

Posted by: RNC Talking Pointbot 3000 | Mar 14, 2007 2:45:31 PM


Blah...blah...talking points, talking points.. tell them what they want to hear...


"dt" above links to a Zogby poll, claiming: "here's the Zogby Poll that says 59% of real Americans think Bush should be impeached for illegal wiretapping:

http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2"

Isn't it typical of leftoids like "dt" to lie about the polls they purport to cite? "dt" completely lies about both the question and the 59% figure. And the link is to a phony "push poll" with leading questions written by some obscure left wing group.

Frank James should be proud to attract such defenders.


dt, does that stand for deranged tool? You send us a link from a "poll" conducted by afterdowningstreetmemo.org?? What a crock of BS!! Dt, actually polls showed that most Americans had no problem with the wiretapping of terrorists. It's one reason why the Demoncrats dropped their "concerns" about it.


Some facts:

"3-2.120 Appointment United States Attorneys are appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate for a four-year term. See 28 U.S.C. Sec. 541. Upon expiration of this term, the United States Attorney continues to perform the duties of the office until a successor is confirmed. United States Attorneys are subject to removal at the will of the President. See Parsons v. United States, 167 U.S. 314 (1897)."

Funny thing, but I don’t see anywhere in that paragraph where removal of US attorneys by Republican Presidential administrations needed to be "usual", needed the approval of Frank James, or needed the approval of the Democrats in Congress.


Little Johhny D and brucie boy,

"The National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers also called yesterday for investigations by Congress and a special prosecutor looking at "whether any official has testified falsely in violation of federal perjury and obstruction of justice statutes."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/14/AR2007031400519.html


We have heard from NPR. What does the daily Kos and one of largest Haliburton shareholders, George Soros, have to say about it? Hmmmmmm....


dt,

Speaking of Liberal media bias:

83 percent of likely voters in the latest Zogby Internet poll say the media are biased in their reporting — with 64 percent feeling that the bias is tilted to the left. 97 percent of Republicans detect a liberal bias — two-thirds of independents agree — and even 17 percent of Democrats said the media favor the left. Just 28 percent of the online respondents said there was a conservative slant in news coverage.


Clinton fired 93 Atty's, all of them. The one that stands out is the Atty that was prosecuting WJC for Whitewater. Clinton replaced that Atty with one of his law students to ensure Whitewater would go away.

I am disappointed in the Bush firings, there should have been many more then 8.

Media bias, naw there isn't any.

1. Twice as many servicemen died under Clintons watch.
2. Clinton fired all 93 US Atty's.
3. Clinton had the most cronies die under suspicious circumstances, Vince Foster, Ron Brown.
4. FLT 800 which I believe will be disclosed as a terrorist attack, even though Sandy Burglar tried to steal and destroy all the documents.
5. Giving nuclear secrets to China for campaign contrbutions.
6. Pimping out the Whitehouse for campaign money.

The list goes on and on and on. No bias at all!!

Lets not forget about Monikagate, the most powerfull man in the free world preying on the the least powerfull woman in the free world. Ironically she was smarter then Bill and set him up. That is American justice.


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