On Walter Reed: Bush, Dems agree

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Bush needs to replace Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson with an Iraq War Veteran. My only hope is that Walter-gate opens the door on all of the other injustices our veterans face when they come home.

Over 400,000 veterans are waiting for "decisions" about their disability claims. What a disgrace. Fire Jim Nicholson.

If you havent watched it yet. check out this one-minute trailer for a documentary about homeless iraq war veterans, called WHEN I CAME HOME. It is seriously eye-opening:

http://www.whenicamehome.com

Support The Vets. We need a march on washington.

I am 100% disabled from my Army Vietnam experience and working in a Navy Factory for almost 30 years. I was admitted to Minneapolis VAMC Hospital and they lost me. I had a I.V. in my arm and was placed in a dark 4 bed three 3 emty bed room for over 24 hours till my wife and daughter found me. I was asigned a doctor Phillips and he admitted they forgot they had admitted me in urgent care at midnight with medication and heart/lung problems. I now live near Silver Bay and things have only gotten worse. I have to drive 140 miles for a 15 minute appointment and they just renew my meds and send me home. Then I get my medication and it is the wrong medication. I have gone to my Senator and Congressman for a FEE BASIS CARD to see a civilian clinic just 9 mile from me with the State run Veterans Home next door with a clinic that come every day to check on the health care in the home. They won't let me go there either. The whole VA System is ass backwards the director rules then the pharmacy with the doctors orders often ignored and it is always the Veterans fault. They lie and cover up hide all the bad things when the Senator & Congressman come. Then they threaten taking away my benefits. Bush don't care he just wants to the power and exposure as some twisted hero on terror. The only terror is in the minds of the wounded and troubled Soldiers he put in a wrong war. I now know why there are more suicides then combat deaths from Vietnam. No one wants to stand up and do the right thing. Joe Lieberman is a republican wanabe and Bush only sees what he want to see.
With Honor I Served and will Die, Tom Seman, Silver Bay, MN

Talk about insensitivity. He must have been paying real close attention while visiting those
"who have suffered wounds in defense of our country" As I've stated before, this is another display of the consequences of having incompetent people in positions of authority.
I wonder if the General has one of those bumper stickers that says: "Support our troops" ?
Making sure this never happens again is one thing..... America needs to know how it happened in the first place. You're doin' a heck of a job "W"

It's good to see both parties agree on something... I just wish it didn't have to be on this topic. There should only be the best for our men and women in the United States Armed Forces.
AubreyJ.........

Fire Kiley.

As usual, President Bush read a well scripted speech expressing his dismay at the blatant neglect of our brave men and women in uniform, of which he is more than culpable for their condition, when he sent them to fight in war without a plan for success.

Not withstanding his lack of strategy in the Middle East, his comments appeared to be disingenuous, in that it was very likely the heads that recently rolled were just following the orders of the departed Sectary of Defense, who not only did not have a plan for winning the peace in Iraq, but even more egregious, attempted to obfuscate the mounting and staggering costs of the war by mandating creative accounting, with orders to department heads to cut costs where they could get away with it. Sadly, those most effected were those recovering heroes with brain injuries, who sometimes struggled to remember their names; whereas, protesting their mistreatments may have been out of their present capacity.

Maybe the next time a soldier has to share his meal with a rat, perhaps it should be pointed out that the same level of sanitation is in effect as the Taco Bell restaurant in New York City, which made national broadcasts this week. If this is best we can do, then if we can not bring them home until they are wounded, we should show appreciation with accommodations at least as clean as the Ritz.

York Van Nixon III 3/3/07

York@YorkVanNixonIII.Com

There was a discussion about this on C-SPAN this morning.

One of the arguments was; that because Walter Reed was one of the facilities slated for a BRAC closing, they did not put any money into it. Why should they if it was to be closed?

I say that is a poor excuse. They should have been and should be taking care of these things regardless. Those people are someone's son, daughter, mother, father, brother...need I say more. I'm sure the Brass would not allow a family member of theirs to languish under such conditions.

For once I'd like to see action instead of commission upon commission with a report out in 6 months that will be ignored.

Imagine a president who organizes excellent care for veterans before the media tells him there is a problem.

When it takes a journalist to expose this abuse, a great many people aware of the abuse must have accepted it. They remain on the job, and they are the issue.

The last few years in particular, the President has been on a "morality soapbox"; more about getting votes than anything in particular. Here we have a "moral" failure to provide for funding for the vets, many of whom are surviving on a greater percentage basis from combat than in previous wars, and with more serious injuries. It took days from the original news reports for Bush to act; an echo of his lousy reaction time on the Pacific earthquakes and aftermath, as well as Katrina. Bush does nothing pre-emptively, and as Katrina shows, not much after the headlines die down. We have spent a fortune on a failed plan to create a "Democracy" in Iraq, and have failed to provide adequate funding for the V.A., particularly in terms of future care expenditures and staffing. This is an ethical and moral failure, if ever there was one. The first move was to replace the outgoing General with his predecessor who had contributed to the mess - I guess "Brownie" was unavailable. Just be glad that Gates is in there, instead of Dumsfeld.

Cheney, with all his exemptions fro military service, of course is unavailable for comment.

What did the Democrats have to say about the situation? You've got Bush and an independent.

I thank our young Service Men and Women for their service to our country. They are honorable United States Citizens, and very important Persons - each one, and especially those, who decided to join the military now, that the country is at war, like my son. Those war-time military members, serving in the war zones, must be cared for with the best, most modern resources and best professional care. No excuses! NEgligence should have

we can all agree that Walter Reed needs to be fixed, but what about the hundreds and hundreds of other VA Medical Centers in the US, they are in need of help also. We need to do a complete look at all the Army Medical Centers, VA, and Military Treatment Centers....the Veterns care is a joke.

Hey George,
If Iraq and Katrina don't become your legacy you now have Walter Reed to add to the list of your failures. These people weren't just the "poor" your mother said "couldn't stay in Texas" We're talking about the Men and Women you sent off to fight a war that didn't need to be fought. If you wanted the results to be as they are then you are to be congratulated for having said: "Don Rumsfeld is the right man for the job" You, Chaney and your whole team have every reason to be ashamed of yourselves.
After all, you are "The Decider"

"President Bush has visited a lot of wounded soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, but apparently missed the conditions there which now have cost the job of its director and the secretary of the Army."

That is a cheap shot against Bush. The problems at Walter Reed seem to be in some temporary outpatient housing, not the main facilities. Bush may have never been to this infamous Building 18.

Cheap Shots = crappy journalism. This is not journalism, it is a hit piece. You don't see real journalism anymore very much. News today is full of political hit pieces.

This is a "NATIONAL" disgrace. Shame on you Congress and all Americans who don't suppport our Veterans!

We have not corrected the deficiencies and disgraces we heep upon our veterans that have been occuring since WWII.

Yes our WWII veterans were considered heroes upon returning from war, but their hero status ended with their discharge from service. Why do you think the American Legion and VFW came into existence? As support for all our returning military personnel.

What we did to our Vietnam veterans, well, our country should just hang their heads in shame. There was ABSOLUTELY NO support, from the Government or our citizens, for these returning veterans then or since. Can you imagine having to fight the Federal Govt. for over 20 years to receive your earned disability benefits, after seeing your wounded body splashed, in full color mind you, over the front page of this newspaper? Oh, and your Purple Heart took just as long. You would never tolerate this abuse as an employee. You'd have your employer in court before the first 12 months were up.

Our government has done nothing but cut budget after budget for military non-wartime support for the past 30 years, what did we expect would happen? It can take a veteran 2-3 years on an out-patient waiting list to see a doctor at any of our veterans hospitals and unbelievably in the last 5 years our northern Illinois hospitals have been on the chopping block and have barely escaped closing. Mental health screening and care doesn't exist. Why are non-veteran Congressmen allowed into Walter Reed for treatment? I could go on.

Don't let this continued abuse happen to our new veterans. You don't have to support war. No one really wants to go to war because of the high cost to our military personnel, but it's because of our military you continue to have the freedom you enjoy. Don't EVER forget that.

We can all agree that veterans care is top priority. My wife is a veteran. She went through Walter Reed and recieved great health care from doctors but what I felt was unacceptable wait times in an unorganized system. She now works for the Department of Veteran Affairs. Everyone wants to criticize Secretary Nicholson (Vietnam Veteran) for faults that happen at DOD facilities, mainly because readers and reporters lump veteran care into one big group. There are DOD facilities (Walter Reed) and there are VA facilities. The VA doesn't know about a veteran until the veteran applies for benefits.
Yes, the system has cracks. Even the smallest crack effects people's lives. I don't know what I would've done if my wife came home after serving her country and suffering from TBI. I believe all soldiers experience some form of PTSD. When my wife came home, she was frustrated and upset. She decided however, to be part of the solution. She moved away from me to take a job in the Department of Veterans Affairs hoping to make an impact on the service veterans receive. There are open jobs at the VA. There are open positions around the country to include counselors to treat PTSD, these positions are in places soldiers are from - I challenge the country to continue to support the troops by investing their life working to help the system rather than critisize it. If you chose this path, bring with you a constant sheild of sunshine because you will get the brunt of anger and rightfully so from veterans, veterans organizations, congress, committees and most recently - the media.

No injured soilder/sailor/marine/airman should have to suffer in substandard conditions!!!! Why did it take so long for the press to catch this story? I am sure we could go back to Vietnam, or the first Iraq war and find the same thing happening. Our active duty military deserve better. Most will refuse to go to medical because all they are given is "Vitaim M", also called Mortin because none of the medical staff believe the complaints they hear. It can take months to get much need MRI, bone scans, etc for diagnois purpose. And what is worse is that the Veteran groups have been sreaming for changes for the past 30 years, and yet nothing has improved. I think the Armed Forces Service Commitity needs to look at all the military hopsitals, not just Walter Reed! There might be more hiding out then we can even dream of. This is a terrible disgrace on our nation!

Don't fire Kiley, court martial him

Why I thought Sen. Lieberman is a Republican posing as a Democrat!-Not only did he fail to mention that this is a long-ago problem that the old Republican-controlled Congress did not 'hear' and failed to address(computer/system problems, remember?) but he makes it appear like, now the new Democratic-controlled Congress and this same-old incompetent(again?) administration 'co-owns' this problem. You know what I mean...

The President saw what the Army showed him when he went to visit the wounded. The lifers responsible for the sub-standard conditions would not have let him within a mile of what was real. Gates is doing the right thing, kill a few chickens to scare the monkies.

In the military the mission comes first and people are at best second. Sadly our brave men and women often find themselves dealing with less than the best this contry has to offer. Military housing is often substandard, to the point the homeless would not want to live there. Public areas are of military office buildings are always spit and polished but the areas where the people actually work are run down, dimly lit, and rodent infested (for example, the Pentagon before the remodel). These wretched conditions didn't just start recently, nor with the present administration. These type of problems take years of neglect. These are just a part of the reson I got out of the Army after 6 years.

Chad is living in Bush's dreamland. Exposes such as this are exactly what good journalism is all about. The VA system is being stressed like never before, and the current patient load is only the beginning. Bush exacerbated this situation - had this conflict ended in 2 years or thereabouts, the casualty count would have been markedly lower. Mental health coverage for PTSD and like conditions is also woeful, with long waiting lists. Some of those mental health dollars should be set aside to treat Cheney's egomania and Bush's paranoia, while we're at it - Bush is eligible for treatment at military facilities.

Please read Wikipedia for more details of the current controversy - the story came out 2/18, and here's the "late" President Bush taking action in March.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Army_Medical_Center

Starting February 18, 2007, the Washington Post published a series of articles outlining cases of neglect reported by wounded soldiers and their family members. Although the article focused primarily on Building 18, a former hotel building just outside the post's main gates, authors Dana Priest and Anne Hull also included complaints about "disengaged clerks, unqualified platoon sergeants and overworked managers" that make navigating the already complicated bureaucracy to obtain medical care at WRAMC even more daunting. Despite the Army's claim of "surprise" at these conditions, they had been exposed in a Salon.com series beginning in January 2005. In 2004 and 2005, articles appeared interviewing whistleblower First Lt. Jullian Goodrum on his court martial for seeking medical help elsewhere due to poor conditions at WRAMC, in the Post and in Salon.

Kiley will be receiving the Medal of Honor very soon from Bush. Of this I have no doubt. He has, after all, been doing a heckuva job!

""I was deeply troubled by recent reports of substandard conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center,'' Bush says, "

Yet "President" Bush just cut funding for M.S. research, and other
dread diseases.

This is what happens when you elect some 'dude' that can't feel
someone else's pain,,,,,twice.

Oh, Clinton was so funny, feeling someone else's 'pain'.
How can that be?

Mark, Frank, David, Jill, Bill, all ChiTrib,

Posting times are becoming unacceptable.

You gotta do something.

We are adults. We can take some nasty stuff. You can
get rid of the unacceptably bad stuff soon enough.

Untimely posting times will kill this beautiful thing.

This on going story shows us how badly The Clinton Administration military cuts hurt. B.J. had 8 years in office and cut $56 Billion from the military and what your reading and seeing now are his spoils from years ago.
B.J. was a draft dodger and he hated the military,unless he could use them to deflect the Monica thing.

Paulo

THE AMOUNT THE GOVERNMENT PAYS CIVILIAN PSYCHOLOGISTS TO TREAT BOTH ACTIVE AND RETIRED MILITARY MEMBERS WAS CUT DRASTICALLY RETROACTIVE TO FEBRUARY FIRST. THIS HAS THE NET RESULT OF FURTHER RESTRICTING THE ACCESS TO CARE SINCE THE FEE SCHEDULE WAS ALREADY VERY LOW. THIS IS INTERESTING IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT STUDY PUBLISHED BY THE AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION WHICH DECRIED THE LACK OF MILITARY CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGISTS TO ADEQUATELY DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS OF ACTIVE DUTY PERSONNEL.

BILLIONS - for Military Contractors

PENNIES - for our Wounded Heroes

THANKS GOP!!

Just got bak from posting to soldiers JohnE throw things around in basement now yelling hot water heater leeked while he sleep.Halliburten need to develope bettr hetr it only 40 yeers old.Thanks Cheney.
Dale Peters

Even a semi-functional mentally retarded person like myself can tell that this is all BJ Clintons fault.
Paulo

That's what happens when you play childish games by posting as Dale...Paulo, you get someone else posting as you. Fortunately, he was more accurate than you.

It's interesting to note Congressional reps and senators from both parties now concerned about poor treatment of veterans in VA facilities. Why doesn't some reporter ask them if they ever visited the VA hospitals and treatment centers in their own districts and states?

The problem at Walter Reed is just the TIP of the iceberg. Since a little over one year ago, the defunct decision makers started retooling medical care for active duty and retirees, in order to put more money toward the war effort. The restructuring is ongoing and will dwindle services. What we see at Walter Reed is the beginning of the cuts...wait until the real ones kick in over the next 3 years. I've been visiting vets at Walter Reed since 2003, and I can tell you that they were complaining of problems back then. Unfortunately, since the ranks of the military had to go to the press to make things happen, they played one of the few trump cards they had. Now, the military has ordered them to stop talking to the press...an apparent insight into how they really feel about this situation. Civilian oversight is desperately needed by an independent agency...maybe even the Red Cross!

Now they should look at our national parks. Disgraceful. So many improvements could be made there for a relatively small sum. The rangers and other personnel are paid pennies, and there's not enough of them.

These posting times are RIDICULOUSLY slow.

Jeff,
I hope they can do something about it, and make the posting
interface more consistent, and faster.

It may be a bean counter problem.

Sometimes the posting just never makes it.

And now I see a bunch of my entries went in....twice!

As long as Kevin Kiley has his stars, there will be no accountability for the out-patient mess.

C.Morris, Jeff,

"Consistant" is the operative word. On rare occasions I've had things go up sort of quickly, other times a post just rots for hours before it shows up and the thread gets stale.

Of course, lately we've all had many of them just mysteriously disappear.

I've never heard of a major news organization blog operating like this.

Yeah I've lost a few postings lately, too. No consistency at all.

Dear Bloggers,

In listening to the Walter Reed hearing by the Representatives. I could hear what any of us who deal with the Hospitals and Medical world is facing as norms. I deal with this as I help my mother and Help my friends with their mothers or father.

The medical world treats everyone –EVERYONE with this neglect and time waiting and misdiagnosis and “Pontius pilot hand washing” and the family is being put more and more of the responsibility to call and contact and even negotiate with the insurances.

Now hearing and knowing the Speeches uttered by the Executive Branch and Rumsfield then hearing how the soldiers are treated and health not budgeted and even having their records of education used as part of their illness and the reason to deny care service and health (aside bar the Executive Branch needs to apology for this treatment not Kerry and his college statement that hurt the moral of the soldiers-because Bush and his recruitment policy is a “promise them “the moon and pray they die in the 5th deployment”. This Branch asks of our neighbors, children what they never could have done themselves and their parents could not make that sacrifice when asked of them).

Our Executive branch is behaving as the CEO of America and has a business attitude that allows and FLOURISHES via ‘CAPITAL FIRST” the soldiers are units and items. The Business attitude and means of dealing with each other IS NOT HOW YOU DEAL WITH COUNTRIES, PEOPLE AND FAMILIES. If a shredder truck to get rid of the
Broken soldiers existed I believe – the Executive branch would Gladly hire it and use it.

With the outlook of the Executive branch and Gonzales advising, and the broken Medical world a dovetail of it occurred in Walter Reed. The Executive Branch is trying to Wal-mart the medical care of our Soldiers as good business practice dictates, “if that company can do it we can too!” The problem is a welcomed partnership of pentagon and medical world. Blame and shuffling has come to be believed as “problem solving. “ Solving it requires time and fingerprints of work and to work/be a laborer is punished by our executive branch via taxes and de-moralizing those who work.

As I have gained skills to help friends and neighbors in the medical world and have been a victim of Identity thief and helped friends and neighbors with their medical and Identity theft problems. It made me want to be a part of trying to create something de-snarl and solve with the families and those who have no families to advocate care to deal with this combined mess.

Leo T,

'consistent', is a word.

'consistant' is not a word.

I never bring up usage or spelling mistakes, but since you insist;

consistent |kənˈsistənt| adjective (of a person, behavior, or process) unchanging in achievement or effect over a period of time : manufacturing processes require a consistent approach.

The Regimental Surgeon of the U.S. Marines Manuel Tanguma has inquired about the use of a medical device proven to aide in the prevention of concussion in NFL players. The NFL’s concussion expert was forced to resign last week because of his concussion policy and omission of these statistics. NFL statistics confirmed in an AAOP study that warranted further study, that was never done. Dr. Tanguma has communicated with a Harvard MGH researcher about a proposed study at Walter Reed. Now we understand, why it hasn’t happened, the Red Tape of the military bureaucracy. This is a medical procedure many at Tufts University feel, would benefit the troops. Troop MTBI is at epidemic proportion, many N.E. Patriot players testify, they stopped having concussions after being fitted with this retainer like mouth guard. If anyone has a contact, please make the effort to let them know of our problem. www.mahercor.com

"I never bring up usage or spelling mistakes, but since you insist"
Posted by: C.Morris | Mar 5, 2007 4:29:39 PM

C.M.
You're barking up the wrong tree on this one. I never mention spelling... that would be pretty dumb of me since I'm terrible at it myself.

C.T.,
As I sit here in pain I know I will die soon from a slow death that started in Vietnam 1969-1975. I am only 58 years old with PTSD and nerve disease/damage in my spine that causes extreme pain. I am also dieing from all the Asbestos I was exposed to in the 30 year Navy Fatory Job I had eating my lungs away with a slow suffication. I am a casualty of Vietnam. But my suffering is nothing compaired to those poor American/Irag War Soldiers coming home to very poor health care so broken they will surely die like me only much wrose because our Cheer Leader George Walker Bush sends more and then more troops to a crippling mill of pain that will ultimatly kill many times more then I have seen in Vietnam. What hurts me the most is our cowerdly Congress that has stood back and watched with their speaches with no action. I am sure I will meet some of them in Heaven as they die. My hopes are my pain ends soon and will go knowing I will have plenty of brothers and sisters in arms by my side free from the pain of watching a great country in America die a slow death from a small group of people in The White House who thought being rich and powerful will make it OK. No money, No Power will ever help or fix the lasting harm that ws done to our country.
Yours Truly, 4th District UAW Veterans Committee Chair Retired 1997.
Tom Seman, Silver Bay, MN

The U.S. Congress "to harm" Ignored.

U. S. Senate Background.

In 2008 the U.S. Congress still treats as an "incident to service" [1] the U.S. Senate's DOD "experiments...designed to harm" [7]! Their, "III. Findings and conclusions" state, "K. DOD and DVA have repeatedly failed to provide information and medical followup to those who participate in military research..." and "N. Participation in military research is rarely included in military medical records, making it impossible to support a veteran's claim for service-connected disabilities from military research." By their inaction Congress has approved the continuation of the Report's: "Introduction" A. "During the last 50 years, hundreds of thousands of military personnel have been involved in human experimentation and other intentional exposures conducted by the Department of Defense (DOD), often without a servicemember's knowledge or consent.", B. "most Americans would agree that the use of soldiers as unwitting guinea pigs in experiments that were designed to harm them, at least temporarily, is not ethical." And "Forward" C. " The findings and conclusions contained in this report are those of the majority staff and do not necessarily reflect the views of the members of the Committee on Veterans' Affairs." Chairman. Thereby, DOD & Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Healthcare System to-date covered up are these experiments and prevented is treatment as documented by the 1994 U.S. Senate Report.[7] The opposing "views" resulted in the 2008 continuing on the general public of a version of the DOD Project 112 biological lessons learned.[8] This is by the 19 December 2006 established civilian "Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA)".[10] Under the cover of its "national security missions", as it is for military personnel, withheld from the civilian "guinea pigs" are the cause and effects of its "Biomedical...Research and Development" (R&D) Projects.

Order Ignored.

From 1953 the U.S. Senate "to harm" lessons learned were in direct disobedience of the DOD Secretary's TOP SECRET order. The U.S. Senate's 1994 "servicemember's knowledge" and "consent" was required forty one (41) years earlier. [3] Then known by the Secretary's of all Services, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and their R&D Board. The order was "UNCLASSIFIED" in 1975. Nineteen (19) years later, during the U.S. Senate's reported past 50 years, most of the "to harm" service records were destroyed in a 1973 National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) fire. Those that survived had all witnesses censored by Congress's 1974 Privacy Act! The "Veterans Right to Know Act" was proposed in the 2005 and H.R. 4259 [109th] 2006 Congress. It never became law.

The U.S. Supreme Court Did Not Know?

The 1987 U.S. Supreme Court Stanley decision [4] extends the coverage of their 1950 Feres Case that a death by a military barracks fire was an "incident to service" [1]. Stanley treats the 1958 DOD "experiments...designed to harm" disobedience of the 1953 order [3] as also an "incident"! Despite the efforts of some, to-date these victims have not been given the U.S. Senate "to harm" recovery of, "IV. Recommendations. G. The Feres Doctrine should not be applied for military personnel who are harmed by inappropriate human experimentation when informed consent has not been given." [7] Because of service afterwards lost are those prior to rights that convicted rapists and murderers keep! [5]

All Is In-The- Record!

Each Executive Branch (DOD, CIA & BARDA) Project completes the R&D process. The prior lessons learned are reviewed. The then Scope of Work defines what the experiment is "designed" to do. The how, where, when and who is identified. The conducted researched cause and effects are closely followed. From the results are developed safe production, use, the needed for treatment and protection, e.g., the DOD manufacturers handling of hazardous materials such as Depleted Uranium, Agent Orange, the biological agents of Project 112 [9] and the jet-engine noise levels of Project 7210 [2]. All is in the Executive Branch record! Under the cover of national security the revealing treatment evidence: 1. Is not cause identified in a subject's Medical History, so that they never the wiser become. The deceived victim's "to harm" effects are not Medical History recorded, therefore not addressed! Prevented is any follow up by independent civilian and VA physicians. And 2. For veterans' the 64 years of experiment specific injuries are not in the VA "schedule of ratings for disabilities" [6]!

A few in Congress made certain that this revealing evidence will not be addressed. The year following STANLEY was the 1988 Veterans' Judicial Review Act. Established was the Veteran's Legislative severely restricted, Article I Court. "The court may not review the schedule of ratings for disabilities or the policies underlying the schedule.", i.e., the order ignored "to harm" R&D experimental effects and their causes! The Veterans Court Chief Judge's no teeth statement with his VA ignoring of the Court's decisions! [6] The Secretary of the VA was given Final Decision authority on these issues. [9] Included is the power of NO APPEAL to this LEGISLATIVE Veterans Court or to the independent U.S. Judicial Branch Courts. If allowed an APPEAL, it is not part of the record at the Article I Veterans Court. The evidence is also missing at the next level U.S. Judicial Branch Article III, Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.

Why "may not review"?

May not be reviewed records prevent medical, administrative and judicial "activities" that "would be detrimental to the accomplishment of...mission." This is by the still in 2008 reasoning of "it was necessary to conceal these activities from the american public in general, because public knowledge of the unethical and illicit activities would have serious repercussions in political and diplomatic circles and would be detrimental to the accomplishment of its mission." U.S. Supreme Court 1987 Stanley Case; Footnote 4, Page 688 on its proven 1958 CIA experiment on U.S. Army personnel. [4]

"Right to Know".

There now is no 64 years later "Veterans Right to Know". After they complete Honorable Service despite the efforts of some Congress has not given back to veterans their rights. Revealed would be the few's corrupt for the greater good of all. Accomplished by the end justifies the "designed to harm" means. Carried out under the cover of our nation's wars! A few key members in Congress, have dishonored all those that serve.

Hold Responsible.

Now BARDA Experiments Conducted on You! Please, Hold Your Members in the U.S. Congress Accountable! These U.S. Supreme Court and U.S. Senate Documented Facts Are Internet Censored.[11] Passing this on to Others So That They May Do the Same Would Be Appreciated. Thank You.

David H. Marshall

REFERENCES:

[1] U.S. Supreme Court, Feres v. United States, 340 U.S. 135, 146 (1950).

[2] USAF Project 7210 "A Compilation of Turbojet Noise Data", Bolt Beranek & Newman, Inc. Cambridge 38, MA. Sound pressure levels for all jet-engines in-service. Conducted at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio in 1952. 1954 logged in as the 401st report for that year published as Report 54-401 July 1956.

[3] DOD Secretary's 26 February 1953 NO non-consensual, human experiment's Memo pages 343-345. George J. Annas and Michael A. Grodin, "The Nazi Doctors and the Nuremberg Code; Human Rights in Human Experimentation" (New York: Oxford University Press, 1992). In Reference [8] as NOTES 72, 168 & 169.

[4] U.S. Supreme Court, June 25, 1987, U.S. V. Stanley, 107 S. Ct. 3054 (Volume 483 U.S., Section 669, Pages 699 to 710). In Reference [8] Cited in Note 169.

[5] U.S. State Dept., "U.S. Report under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights July 1994, Art. 7".

[6] Chief Judge Frank Q. Nebeker, State of the Court for Presentation to the United States Court of Veterans Appeals Third Judicial Conference October 17-18, 1994. In the Veterans Appeals Reporter. www.firebase. net/state_of_court_brief.htm Annual Judicial Conference Transcript. www. goodnet.com/~heads/nebeker

[7] U.S. Senate December 8, 1994 REPORT 103-97 "Is Military Research Hazardous to Veterans' Health? Lessons Spanning Half a Century." Hearings Before the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, 103rd Congress 2nd Session. With NOTES 1 to 170. Committee Print - S. Print. 103-97.

[8] "Project 112 (Including Project SHAD) Home" chemical and biological experiments; www. 1.va.gov/shad/

[9] United States Code (USC) Title 38, 511. Decisions of the Secretary; finality. http://www. law.cornell.edu/

[10] "Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA)" S-3678.

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The VA didn’t know?
From 1956 is the Project 7210 known certain jet engine injury for ALL UNPROTECTED flight line and navy deck personnel. It is requested that you ask your congressional representatives to make sure that oversight and accountability is realized for all. This is for a 1948 required but ignored 95 decibels (dB) noise level, without protection injury. It is a sound pressure multiple (X) of 59 times that of a normal conservation. Accordingly, a then 1956 Project 7210 known certain disability from an unprotected sound pressure of 6,144 X (@ 135 dB) to 815,583 X (@ 177 dB) exposure.
A mysterious disappearance of proof!
A 2009 visit to the Project 7210 "contrails.iit.edu" site revealed that the under its "search", using "TR 54-401", the 130 page jet engine noise levels Report has disappeared! This is the proof of the U. S. Military’s unprotected jet engine very high noise levels that ranged from 135 dB to 177 dB. It was a then known certain injury in direct disobedience of the 1948 Air Force Regulation (AFR) 160-3. A follow on to the Harvard Univ. WWII V-51R hearing protection. This is the AFR 160-3 required protection at a 95 dB. maximum noise level with a sound pressure multiple (X) of 59. The USAF Wright Air Development Center "contrails.iit.edu" site had the July 1956, Project 7210, Technical Report (TR) 54-401. Recorded, at a radius of 50 feet, are the noise levels for 27 versions of 10 jet-engines in 1947 to 1956 U. S. Military service. This previously received, now vanished from site report is available on request. The sound pressure multiple (X) source is the American Medical Association (AMA) Family Medical Guide 3d. Edition page 365, also email available. Its 60 dB "Normal conversation" is the base line for the calculated AMA "....sound pressure doubles with an increase of 6 decibels". Accordingly, the 27 versions of the10 jet-engines have overall sound pressure multiples ranging from a low of 6,144 X (@ 135 dB) to a high of 815,583 X (@ 177 dB) vs. the ignored required 59 X (@ 95 dB) protection.
TR 54-401 and this veteran’s in-hand documentation could help some so exposed, e.g., "Had some trouble with hearing while working on warm-up crew for F-86 D with very high noise levels." The physician’s 29 Jan. 54 USAF Cadet Wing Commander washout statement. At Tyndall AFB, Panama City, Florida the hundreds of flight line personnel were unprotected and subjected to the Project 7210 "very high noise levels". For F-86D personnel it is the then known certain J47-GE-1 jet-engine noise level injury, i.e., the TR 54-401 pages 68-75, "Test Group 10, Date of the Tests: 1952, Test Numbers 62-64". This is an at 50 feet 158 dB noise level with an 87,381 X sound pressure multiple. Fifteen (15) of the 77 were repeatedly exposed to a "warm-up crew" level of over 699,051 X at 176 dB! As with ALL UNPROTECTED flight line (USAF, Army & USN) and flight deck (USN) personnel, they worked much closer to the jet-engines than the at 50 feet recorded noise levels. Therefore, all were subjected to well over the 6,144 X to 815,583 X sound pressure multiples. An over 50 years of VA lessons learned from an unprotected injury in direct disobedience of the 1948 AFR 160-3 requirement..
Your consideration is most appreciated. Thank you.