McCain: Baghdad by flak-jacket

LIBERAL MEDIA ALERT!!!!

NPR CORRESPONDENT QUESTIONS MCCAIN ON...MCCAIN!

But please don't interpret one comment of mine in any way to indicate that this isn't a long, difficult struggle that we're in....

Ok...we'll just interpret it as things are better in Iraq and you and I can go to some neighborhoods with an army and helicopters.

Ah, I get it. McCain has such big cajones that he must have visited a city in that mere 15 to 20 percent of Iraq that Tim Wahlberg said isn't "reasonably under control, at least as well as Detroit or Chicago or any of our other big cities."

"But please don't interpret one comment of mine in any way to indicate that this isn't a long, difficult struggle that we're in with lots more car bombings, lots more of the terrorist acts that have taken place."

“Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women.” [CNN, 9/24/02]

“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies.” [CNN, 9/29/02]

“But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]

Quien votaria por este mentiroso?

http://dreamsofliberty.blogspot.com/2007/03/mccain-lies-to-media-calls-media-jerks.html

It is curious to see how the left wing nuts and the press (I repeat myself) react when genuine war hero John McCain comments on the war. It appears that they will be as deranged with him as they have been with Pres. Bush.

While McCain was excoriating the press in Baghdad yesterday for not presenting the "full story" about how swell things are going in Iraq he neglected to mention the pre-visit security sweep that made that neighborhood strool so safe for him and his Republican croonies.

100 soldiers,three Blackhawk helicopters and two Apache gunships accompanied his entourage,and hundreds of US soldiers swept the area before they arrived.

John McCain and Lindsey Graham put American troops lives at risk for a photo op.

Why didn't they do a ride along on a real patrol?

Maybe they could have joined the US team that responded to an ambush of an American patrol yesterday?..of course 6 US soldiers died in that operation,you can't take real risks to back up your words Mr. McFlipflopy, no sir.

Instead, US military resources are devoted to making propoganda.
US soldiers were ordered into harms way just to ensure that John McCain's delegation could walk around, look serious, and perpetuate the lie that more US soldiers must come to Iraq and die.
Republican Hero General Petraeous ought to be ashamed of himself for going along with this sham.

"From the reporting on the ground, it does appear that there has been a reduction in sectarian violence in the Baghdad area due to the surge. It's not as McCain has taken total leave of his senses, as some bloggers and even journalists have suggested."

Thanks for the acknowledgment, Frank. McCain's goal is victory in Iraq. I'd suggest it's something that's more important to him, personally, than attaining the White House or anything that can happen in the next two years of non-stop campaigning.

bruce,

Nobody is questioning McCain's service record or POW experience.

They are questioning his own statements on the status of Iraq. He claimed Patraeus regularly travels around the city in an unarmed humvee. Then reverses the statement to save face.

He used 100 servicemen, 3 Black Hawks and 2 Apaches and had the area swept before he freely walked through Bahgdad thereby putting sodiers lives at risk for a photo-op.

The only thing deranged are the mindless partisan sheep that can't handle the truth when it makes their side look bad.

The very day that McCain, while in Iraq, said that things were better, six American soldiers were killed there. He didn't even mention that.

Even Frank James concedes that the surge is working in Baghdad. The problem is making it work everywhere in Iraq (the six deaths occurred southwest of Baghdad). That's why for General Petraeus' plan to work the full complement of the 21,500 more troops called for is necessary. They all haven't even come close to getting there yet.

"The only thing deranged are the mindless partisan sheep that can't handle the truth when it makes their side look bad."-Bubba

Hey kettle, you're black.

Hey WillJeff,

Please provide evidence of your claim.

Thank you.

In my mind, a guy like John McCain,with his honorable,and heroic service during Vietnam,holds alot of sway.

Posted by: John E. | Oct 16, 2006 12:01:32 PM

Usted mentirosos republicanos hypocritical pobres.

Usted aplica un estandar doble a su cada dia.

If anybody has the right to strut around in a flack jacket it's Sleepy.

I used to like the guy, and want to like the guy, but he went hard right.

He seems to be trying to get in the 'wayback machine' and win the Vietnam catastrophe.

'Calling Doktor Freud, calling Doktor Freud.....'

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Jeff,

Iraqi deaths are up in other parts of the country. Yes, March deaths are UP. It's the Vietnam syndrome; avoid the 'Big Stick'; strike where the mean green killin machine ain't. (See link in 'Bush NoHitter')

It would take 1,000,000 American/UK troops to pacify Iraq.
Not gonna happen.

I can't believe McCain is stupid enough to adopt the same lies that stopped working for Bush over a year ago.

Next thing you know, he'll be saying Saddam had nukes too.

This guy's too dumb to be president.

With the history of our occupation of Iraq one should take great care in forecasting success. Our military has not changed, these are the same people that have stumbled around here for four years. We have 3245 dead and 24000 wounded. Do any of you hawks have a projection of what three or four more years will cause. We will have one trillion dollars in direct costs and more than one trillion in legacy costs for veterans. Plus, the day we leave, the Shia and the Sunni will finish their war without us. We are going to lose here,the question is, at what cost.

Things are getting better in Iraq, and I am pleased with the progress that has been made. And I will continue to be pleased at the progress. I hope that the significant drop in murders -- I'll be glad to go through that list and others with you, if you would like. But I am very glad that we have made the progress that we have made, and there's a lot more to go, and it's long and it's hard and it's difficult. I think the American people are not getting the full picture of what's happening here.

SEN. GRAHAM: Can I just add to that?

You know, this is my sixth trip, and along the way, I've gone from the first time, where we went over to the hotel across the street and bought rugs -- there were two cars with us. And in between then and now, we were in tanks and couldn't move around and felt under siege.

What a phony. He should have brought Lieberman for support...Oh I forgot...He's not a Republican.

Even Frank James concedes that the surge is working in Baghdad. The problem is making it work everywhere in Iraq (the six deaths occurred southwest of Baghdad). That's why for General Petraeus' plan to work the full complement of the 21,500 more troops called for is necessary. They all haven't even come close to getting there yet.

Posted by: Jeff | Apr 2, 2007 5:04:18 PM

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Um, Jeff.

Do you have any idea how many troops it would take to tie down all of Iraq like Baghdad is tied down?

I'll give you a hint. It's a LOT MORE than 20,000.

Now, want go guess how long they'd have to stay there?

Ron,

We need 1mb troops to tie down Iraq. Won't happen. That would involve an actual commitment from the American people, and they, for the most part, are more worried about Idol and the next pair of sweat shop jeans. Most of our compatriots don't have a clue. That's why GWB is president.

Iraqi troops won't win it, either. Unfortunately, the Iraqi security forces are infiltrated and corrupted. Vietnam compare.

More Iraqis died in March after the 'surge' than the previous month.
The guerillas simply moved to insecure locations and began to kill.

Here is the hard, cruel truth; GWB continues to get Americans and Iraqis killed for lies.

Hey GWB and Gunner Cheney; for the good of the world, resign please.

Exactly, Ron, C. Morris, that's why McCain proposed 100,000 more troops 3 years ago. We're in agreement that 100,000 Americans won't be going to Iraq, and we're also in agreement that it'll take more than 21,500 to secure the country. The troops that need to step up are the Iraqi troops and we have to support them as long as they and their government meet the benchmarks set for withdrawal. Yes, we need benchmarks.

Unless either of you want to see an even more destabilized Middle East, failure simply is not an option.

Let’s be honest with ourselves here. We lost the war. Iraq has been completely torn to shreds and it would be wishful thinking to think the country will be back on track again in the next 50 years. 2 million people have left Iraq since we ‘liberated’ it. And guess what? Those 2 million people were probably the most educated, well to do people who could afford to get out of there before it became a blood bath. The cream of the crop is gone. I can see why the republican politicians like McCain continue to be so naïve about the war because they realize that they created such a huge mess and can’t afford to admit to it. I’m very disappointed in the people who continue to support this view. At what point will they admit that the people they elected have completely made a mess out of Iraq. Is John McCain trying to show everyone how safe everyone is in Iraq? Last I heard he had over 100 soldiers risking their lives to protect him when they could have been doing something else. Why are republican politicians so shamelessly macho sometimes and pathetically naïve at others?

That's right Juanito T Leo,I do respect McCain's military service and so should you,but unlike you and Jeffy, I don't blindly follow the guy because has no substance other than that he was a POW.

He's like George W. Bush part 2 except with a real a military record (being a POW was the best thing that ever happened to this flipfloper) and they both rate high on the stupid scale...right down there with you, Nito' T Leo.

Oh, this is classic.

Now the merchants who were selling things in the market are saying McCain's visit was all a publicity gimmick and the place was locked down tighter than Leavenworth:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/world/middleeast/03mccain.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

"Baghdad John" strikes again!

Hasn't anyone noticed that McCain has a flattened affect. He is a defeated and lost man. A sad end to a real hero who lost his way.

I too used to like Senator McCain, the straight shooter and honest broker of the Republican Party. However, it seems now that he will do most anything in his attempt to become president. And if that happens there is going to be a lot more that 21,500 extra troops in Iraq and they will be there for a long time! Nowadays it is very difficult to believe anyone from the Republican party in regards to the Iraq war. They all seem to want the American public to forgot the wasted four years and countless billions of dollars pursuing a failed stategy in Iraq. I think not! Senator McCain, go home to Arizona and set in the sun with the rest of the retirees.

In Newsweek's coverage, it was reported that right after McCain left the area, mortar rounds fell.

McCain's seems intent on replacing Bush's "long and hard" with his own "long and hard."

Bend over, America.

I think McCain is still suffering from TSD (Traumatic Stress Disorder) from the comments he is making. Who does he really think he's kidding? Baghdad and the rest of Iraq is a mess and he knows it.

From the don't throw stones in a glass house department: John E. just called someone else stupid.

KB, I don't think McCain denies for a minute that Iraq is a mess or that the administration (particularly Donald Rumsfeld) horribly mismanaged the war. But doesn't the U.S. have a responsibility to fix that mess for the Iraqi people that are left? We broke it, we bought it. Leaving it to civil war would be about the worst thing we could do for the region and the people.

If President Bush vetoes an Iraq war spending bill as promised, Congress quickly will provide the money without the withdrawal timeline the White House objects to because no lawmaker “wants to play chicken with our troops,” Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday.

As for pulling out of Iraq now, even Obama now concedes that cutting off funding and abandoning the Iraqi people isn't going to happen anytime soon. Here's Barack from the talk shows this weekend:

“My expectation is that we will continue to try to ratchet up the pressure on the president to change course,” the Democratic presidential candidate said in an interview with The Associated Press. “I don't think that we will see a majority of the Senate vote to cut off funding at this stage.”

Dear Senator McCain:

"The latest massacre of Iraqi children came as 21 Shia market workers were ambushed, bound and shot dead north of the capital.

The victims came from the Baghdad market visited the previous day by John McCain, the US presidential candidate, who said that an American security plan in the capital was starting to show signs of progress."

Was it worth it?

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21496572-2703,00.html

From the don't throw stones in a glass house department: John E. just called someone else stupid.
Posted by: Jeff | Apr 3, 2007 9:32:49 AM

John E,

To ammend the wisdom of Mrs Gump: "Stupid is as stupid writes... stupid."

I'll accept having my intellect questioned by a lot of people -- but NOT by you, the stupidest blogger in The Swamp.

And I certainly will NOT accept criticism from a thoughtless, hateful racist goon like you!

Why don't you crawl back under your rock?

Here's Sen. John McCain from the talk shows before the war started. His military experience and sound judgement makes him the best qualified candidate for President...or does it?

“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies.” [CNN, 9/29/02]

“But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]

Jethro, lots of people thought that in 2002 and 2003. I'm not saying that's an excuse for McCain, but it's at least as big an albatross for Hillary, who still hasn't said her vote to authorize the war was a mistake like Edwards and many other Dems have.

John McCain:

"Iraq is a disaster,it's like we're playing "whack-a-mole" with our troops over there,we settle into one place and the "insurgents" move to another place.

Yep, that's what McCain said two years ago when he told Bush we needed more troops. Bush finally listened last Fall. It helps to add some context to these comments.

Overall, deaths in Iraq are up for March, the surge month.
The insurgents simply moved to other areas, away from the big stick.

Down in Bag., up in other areas.

Also, 80 American dead in March.

As I said two days ago, McCain's campaign is going down in flames. The insane trip to the market after it had been screened by troops and escorted by troops and helicopters should be the end. Putting the Army to work for a photo op is next to a sin. Pretending this was a routine safe trip is deceiving. The donations will stop about now and McCain will be a memory by the first primary.

To Jeff and all chickenhawks, Bush-apologists, Crusaders and assorted charlatans,

It is time to put your money where you mouth is and sign up to fight this war that you support so loudly with your words. The armed forces need more bodies to maintain the empire. You MUST save the country, smite our enemies, and spread the sweet air of freedom throughout the world. After all, anyone who does not want to maintain the Occupation hates America. And we all know YOU don't hate America, right?

Onward Christian soldiers!

http://www.army.com/enlist/
GoArmy.com

C Mo,

Sheeple Jeff still want's to follow McCain off the cliff.

I used to like the guy and up until last fall I still respected him,but he's either become a professional liar(and not a good one)or he's becoming demented.

If it's the later I hope he seeks some medical help for his condition.
He thinks he's the next Reagan,he might be the next Reagan,the Reagan that spent 6 of his 8 years in office not even knowing his own name.

I don't understand what the controversy is?? Rep. Pence and McCain did nothing unusual. I go to the Farmers Market every Sunday in a bullet proof flak jacket and carry my concealed .45. Terrorists are everywhere, just look over your shoulder.

Mark it down in your calendars, folks! John E., the man who proudly claims he's never voted for anyone without a D in front of their name in his entire life, the man who believes Daley when he tells him patronage doesn't exist, the man who screams "racist" whenever anyone criticizes John or Todd Stroger, has called someone else a sheep. "Sheeple" was the exact term.

I feel very proud to have been called a sheep by someone who has, quite likely, never had a political thought of his own in his entire life, and has spent at least the past 3 years cut and pasting the DNC's party line. I know today that I am no sheep if someone like him thinks that I am. Thanks for the compliment, Mr. Roboto.

John E,
It would have been nice if Sleepy and Powell could have maintained their self-respect and dignity and ridden off into the sunset as admired Republics, but they just had to cozy up to power, and the right wing.

How many times did Powell have to do a 'climb down'??

Here's an objective, unbiased report by ABC News. The reporters visited 5 different neighborhoods with no escort where the people all told them life was returning to normal. Let's hope the rest of the MSM takes ABC's lead and reports what's actually happening in Baghdad.

Flame away, Democrats, I understand that this news doesn't fit into your defeat strategy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5m0q1MlQOw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eredstate%2Ecom%2F

Jeff,
You mean the "defeat" strategy the Democrats borrowed from the John McCain and the Republican position during Somalia. Where Sen McCain said on record withdrawel would not damage US credibility:

"What is the criteria and what should be the criteria is our immediate, orderly withdrawal from Somalia. And if we do not do that and other Americans die, other Americans are wounded, other Americans are captured because we stay too long--longer than necessary--then I would say that the responsibilities for that lie with the Congress of the United States who did not exercise their authority under the Constitution of the United States and mandate that they be brought home quickly and safely as possible. . .

I know that this debate is going to go on this afternoon and I have a lot more to say, but the argument that somehow the United States would suffer a loss to our prestige and our viability, as far as the No. 1 superpower in the world, I think is baloney. The fact is, we won the cold war. The fact is, we won the Persian Gulf conflict. And the fact is that the United States is still the only major world superpower.

I can tell you what will erode our prestige. I can tell you what will hurt our viability as the world's superpower, and that is if we enmesh ourselves in a drawn-out situation which entails the loss of American lives"
-Sen. John McCain 10/19/1993