Bush: 'Failure in Iraq should be unacceptable to the civilized world'

What would Bush know about the "civilized" world?

Since his policies have failed in Iraq, maybe he ought to step aside and let someone else try to fix the quagmire he's created. That's how he's handled every other problem he's caused.

Bush: "Failure In Iraq Should Be Unacceptable To The Civilized World"

Chimpy says this while he still can't define what "winning" in Iraq means.

"Winning" doesn't mean a troop "surge" into someone elses civil war.

Apil 2007 - Deadliest month this year for US troops in Iraq.

Isn't it curious that the "mistakes were made" speech and the under the bussing of Rumsfeld didn't happen until shortly after the ("We took a thumping.") speech subsequent to the '06 general election.

Cynacism?

Sorry Dana, neither you nor the rest of the neo-cons are going to get away with this re-writing history.

Credibility?

Dubya wants to establish an Iraq Civil War Czar general officer who reports directly to him?

A retired general (they're still looking) officer who reports directly to Dubya outside DoD chain of command. No Gates, no Petraeus, no CentCom, no State Department.

Anybody seen Poindexter & North lately?

Still in denial. We have already failed in Iraq. It just that the Bush team is not telling all that it knows.

Iraq's deadliest month. International terrorist activity up 25%. George W. Bush, saving the world from terrorism, one suicide bomber at a time.

We could pay down the Bush deficit if we had $1 for each time Bush and his minions have referenced 9/11 when talking about Iraq.

Bush keeps changing the lyrics, but it's the same old tune. Bush's overall point (now repeated for the thousandth time) is correct - risks to the entire Mideast are elevated when we leave. He fails to note that those risks were increased when we failed to follow up after removing Saddam, and left the situation to decay further. It's his own policies and leadership at fault, and the Iraqi government, looking for 2 months off this summer, is not helping his cause one iota.

Whether we remain or leave is immaterial - this sectarian strife has been going on for 1300 years, and our remaining for another year (or two, or ten), only delays the inevitable.

The Iraq Study Group, which Bush brushed off, presented as good a solution as there was to be had - including negotiations with neighboring countries, whether or not Bush happened to approve of them. Bush's personal animus, and his listening to those who wanted Saddam out, and who have consistently lied to achieve that, has been the persistent problem. History will, unfortunately, record Bush's own personal issues as the problem, and he's trying somehow to leave a better personal legacy, at the cost of Iraqi and U.S. lives.

The only way out is for the Iraqi's to get past their divisions, and to create an actual government that leads and commands - and I don't see it happening. The country will divide, and that has de-facto happened already.

The current problem is the elections in Turkey, and the risk of a secular Democracy founded by Ataturk being lost to a fundamentalist state - the Turks will blame the U.S. for this, and there's a risk of the Kurdish minority in Turkey seeking to join up with the Kurds in Iraq.

I've only seen the article title... I'm hoping it ends with the President announcing he & Dick Cheney will be stepping down?

That is the only way the title makes sense, after all.

Actually, Ron, what do you Loony Lefters know about a civilized world. Civilized people know you cannot give up, especially terrorists who feast on people giving up.

When one reads the maniacal diatribes coming from the Loony Left, civilized is not something that would come to one's mind. Needing major psychological help does come to one's mind though.

“a passionate advocate for self-determination and freedom of choice…. A leader of intense dedication and strong resolve.’’ Adm. William Fallon, CENTCOM

Invading a sovereign country and laying waste to it,
is the most warped example of self-determination I could possibly think of.

Poor Bush. He just doesn't get it. It isn't failure that is unacceptable to the civilized world, it's his invasion of Iraq that has been unacceptable to everybody. And what does he mean by the "civilized world?" It sounds kinda cute to people who know nothing about the world, but to the average 6th grader its a worn out phrase. It's hard to imagine we still have more than 18 months of this fool.

Should read:
Bush is unacceptable to the civilizes world!

Please John D, spare us the lectures. You think it's civilized to sodomize prisoners with broomsticks. You and your pro-torture buddies have zero credibility on the subject of being civilized.

I guess Bush thinks that Germany and France are not part of the civilized world. I am not surprised. I do wish that Bush would indicate any limit he might have on American deaths and injuries. April's 100 deaths could lead to 6,000 or more by 2009.there may be 35,000 wounded by then. As more of the "surge" troops are engaged the casualty rate will continue to go up. The Commander In chief has failed. The American military has failed. For some reason our weak generals have escaped the blame they deserve for following the leader without protest. Their lack of courage has caused thousands of casualties.

Bush should talk about failures and a civilized world. He has brought chaos, death and destruction to Iraq. Walter Reed is filled to capacity because of him. This coward has nothing else to talk about except Iraq. When he talks about Iraq he doesn't even know what he's talking about. I don't believe a word he says. He's not honest or credible or logical. He has lied to and deceived the American people since he took office. He can't even answer questions. Actually, it's this illiterate and incompetent moron Bush is not acceptable to the civilized world.

Don B, John D, and other sheeple,
If it is nonsense to believe Iraq is about oil, why was your President campaigning in Colorado, in Nebraska, in Florida, in Kansas in November 2006 and saying this??:

"You can imagine a world in which these extremists and radicals got control of energy resources. And then you can imagine them saying, 'We're going to pull a bunch of oil off the market to run your price of oil up unless you do the following.'"

John D continues to spout the party line, rather than deal in solutions. Must be nice to just cut/paste, rather than think.

There's nothing to "give up" from the Democrats' point of view, as it's Bush's failures that have brought us to this point. Bush can linger and lose further, and let the Iraqi gov't. take two months off smack in the middle of the "surge". The "losing" is happening right now, and won't be brought about by the political opposition.

His problem is his voting base, because he's promised something that he cannot deliver - a strong Iraqi government, and military, which would let U.S. forces redeploy. That, and the stubborn ignorance of that base, including Neocon failure to plan post-Saddam, or even realize what would happen.

Physicians get sued for malpractice, not patients.

For the reality-denying left, who said this in 2003?

"Tonight President Bush will address our Nation and will tell the world that Operation Iraqi Freedom's military action is over, at least insofar as major military engagements may be required. We know we will have continuing problems, like those we have seen in the last few days. But it is true we are now moving toward the second phase, which is the rebuilding of Iraq. So this colloquy we are having today is especially timely because of the President's announcement this evening."

Agreeing with Pres. Bush that the "major military engagements" phase of the war had ended was....

Hillary Clinton

Re "Agreeing with Pres. Bush that the "major military engagements" phase of the war had ended was....

Hillary Clinton

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Google comes up with no such thing - provide a link, or disown the statement.

Flashback to 1999, when George W. Bush was governor of Texas. Then, Bush criticized President Clinton for not setting a timetable for exiting Kosovo.

George W. Bush, 4/9/99, Houston Chronicle:

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”

And on the specific need for a timetable:

George W. Bush, 6/5/99, Scripps Howard/Seattle Post-Intelligencer:

“I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”

Despite his past statements, Bush now refuses to apply the same standard to his war and smears those who want a similar timetable for Iraq.

"Tonight President Bush will address our Nation and will tell the world that Operation Iraqi Freedom's military action is over, at least insofar as major military engagements may be required. We know we will have continuing problems, like those we have seen in the last few days. But it is true we are now moving toward the second phase, which is the rebuilding of Iraq. So this colloquy we are having today is especially timely because of the President's announcement this evening."

Agreeing with Pres. Bush that the "major military engagements" phase of the war had ended was....

Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Bruce | May 1, 2007 4:26:16 PM

Soooo Bruce.. when is that rebuilding phase you're cutting & pasting about gonna begin? You'd think 4 years would be enough time? It seems to me there's a lot more bombing and insurgency control than rebuilding going on today.

Is it really us who's denying reality? you're cutting and pasting quotes from speaches made four years ago regarding "second phases" that have never occurred.

Re: Agreeing with Pres. Bush that the "major military engagements" phase of the war had ended was....

Hillary Clinton

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I had to dig for this one, because it's out of total context - here's the full Congressional Record of 5/1/03:

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/s050103.html

Mrs. CLINTON. ... Is it the understanding of the Senator from Oregon that the buck really stops with Congress? It is the Congress's responsibility to ensure the funds we appropriate for reconstruction in Iraq are spent in a fair and open manner?

Mr. WYDEN. The Senator from New York has summed it up. This is Congress's call. The buck in fact does stop with the Congress. What we are talking about here is making sure Congress keeps in place vigorous oversight about the process. The process is what has, in our view, put taxpayers' dollars in some peril. People have focused on one company or another. There are inquiries underway. What we are going to do is protect the process that ensures, as the Senator from New York suggests, that the taxpayers are protected and Congress in fact has the last word in making sure this money is spent responsibly.

" ... Mrs. CLINTON. Mr. President, that is an eloquent summation as to why I have joined with my colleagues in introducing the Sunshine In Iraqi Reconstruction Contracting Bill.

Tonight President Bush will address our Nation and will tell the world that Operation Iraqi Freedom's military action is over, at least insofar as major military engagements may be required. We know we will have continuing problems, like those we have seen in the last few days. But it is true we are now moving toward the second phase, which is the rebuilding of Iraq. So this colloquy we are having today is especially timely because of the President's announcement this evening. ... "

(That would mark yet one more time that the President was completely mistaken, and Mrs. Clinton believed him - the earlier being her support for giving Bush the power to go to war).

It only points out that believing this President is an error, and the American people realized that in the 2006 election. Senator Clinton was discussing oversight of funds spent in an upcoming mission of reconstruction, not "Mission Accomplished".

(This is why Bush supporters take a continual pounding in this venue - he's an incompetent liar, a fool, or both).

“Failure in Iraq should be unacceptable to the civilized world,’’ President Bush said today, four years after he declared major combat completed in Iraq." How right you are Chimpy Mcflightsuit. Good job screwing up the war on terror. Resign!!!

"Sorry Dana, neither you nor the rest of the neo-cons are going to get away with this re-writing history.

Posted by: Doug Zook | May 1, 2007 12:44:52 PM"

Ummmmm, Doug? What on EARTH makes you think that? Haven't the neo-cons re-written history whenever it suited them so far? Why wouldn't they be able to do it again with this? It's all in the spin, and they're masters of it. Of COURSE they're going to re-write this, and of COURSE they're going to get away with it!

Bush has failed at everything he has done.

He wants to sacrifice our men and women for his freaking "legacy." He doesn't care about Iraq or Iraqis. Any more than he cared about New Orleans, or our schools.

Failure is Bush's middle name.

According to "pb" and "logic prisoner", the president they deride as "chimpy mcflightsuit" managed to outsmart the "smartest women on earth", Hillary Clinton. Does that make logical sense to anyone? Even "pb" and "logic prisoner"?

And notice how "pb" grandiloquently proclaimed that the Hillary quote I used didn't exist--then reveresed him/herself an hour later. Your confession of research ignorance is accepted, "pb".

President Bush is correct in saying the civilized world should fight the terrorists. But the "pbs" and Pelosis simply aren't as interested in defending civilization as they are in hating the president.

Soooo Bruce.. when is that rebuilding phase you're cutting & pasting about gonna begin? You'd think 4 years would be
Soooo Bruce.. when is that rebuilding phase you're cutting & pasting about gonna begin? You'd think 4 years would be enough time? It seems to me there's a lot more bombing and insurgency control than rebuilding going on today.

Is it really us who's denying reality? you're cutting and pasting quotes from speaches made four years ago regarding "second phases" that have never occurred.

Posted by: dave k | May 1, 2007 5:01:30 PM

------------------------------------------------------Maybe the actions from the esteemed Senator from Calif. might have something to do with it. What do you think davek ?

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California Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D) chairs the Senate Rules Committee, but she’s also a Cardinal. She is currently chairwoman of the Interior, Environment and Related Agencies subcommittee, but until last year was for six years the top Democrat on the Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies (or “Milcon”) sub-committee, where she may have directed more than $1 billion to companies controlled by her husband.
The problems stem from her subcommittee activities from 2001 to late 2005, when she quit. During that period the public record suggests she knowingly took part in decisions that eventually put millions of dollars into her husband’s pocket — the classic conflict of interest that exploited her position and power to channel money to her husband’s companies.
And the director of the Project on Government Oversight who examined the evidence of wrongdoing assembled by California writer Peter Byrne told him that “the paper trail showing Senator Feinstein’s conflict of interest is irrefutable.”

President Bush is correct in saying the civilized world should fight the terrorists. But the "pbs" and Pelosis simply aren't as interested in defending civilization as they are in hating the president.

Posted by: Bruce | May 2, 2007 9:23:27 AM

Bruce they are listening to the commanders on the ground unlike Mr Bush. I prefer to refer to him as delusional or just a total failure as a leader. Chimpy Mcflightsuit just seemed appropriate considering it was May 1st. You should have listened to David Patreaus interveiw on the Charlie Rose show. He did not seem to me to be a man who shares your opinion.

The first rule of survival and self-defense is to have a plan. Without a plan of action, confusion and panic will result. In combat, a plan is a strategy, an outline of possible responses to a situation. Tactics are the details of the plan, the individual components of a strategy.

If the opponent expects the sea, give him the mountains. If he expects the mountains, give him the sea.
Miyamoto Musashi

Op109,

No way jose!

"And notice how "pb" grandiloquently proclaimed that the Hillary quote I used didn't exist--then reveresed him/herself an hour later. Your confession of research ignorance is accepted, "pb"."

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Unfortunately, Google could not track your verbiage, and I had to chase it down a different way. If you bothered to read the entire Congressional Record section as posted above, you'd see that Senator Clinton accepted what Bush said, and spoke of her own (and Wyden's) agenda for reconstruction based on Bush's mis-statements. Lots of people believed what Bush said, including the State of the Union, because most of us have high enough standards that we expect a President to be honest.

Silly us ... but you'll put up with it, apparently. And YOU lie, just like he does:

"President Bush is correct in saying the civilized world should fight the terrorists. But the "pbs" and Pelosis simply aren't as interested in defending civilization as they are in hating the president.

(I don't "hate" him, but I pity someone stupid enough to idolize him, and the American people for naively believing him, putting us in our current state in Iraq, and costing the lives of our troops in vain).

Senator Clinton said: "Tonight President Bush will address our Nation and will tell the world that Operation Iraqi Freedom's military action is over, at least insofar as major military engagements may be required."

(That's what Bush said, and he lied. Blame the liar; not those who were misled.)