Bush fears America 'losing its soul'

"I'm deeply concerned about America losing its soul,’’ President Bush said today

Don't believe it!!! This guy's been a complete disaster of a president. Mr Bush saying this is like hearing Satan say he wants to repent!!!

This is the definition I found:

E Pluribus Unum referred to the integration of the 13 independent colonies into one united country. The motto has thirteen letters symbolizing the 13 colonies.

I must be dumber than a box of rocks. I don't get it! Explain what the motto has to do with illegal immigrants getting a green card or a "Z" Visa.

I agree this has been going on since I can remember and probably will long after I am dead and cremated and my ashes thrown into the wind. I still would like to know where they will get all the English teachers and who is to pay for them and the facilities.

The only thing America has lost is its support for the fascist Boy-King who has pillaged the nation's treasury, routed its prestige in the world, failed at two wars (one justified, one of choice), and left its borders unsecured in the "Age of Terrorism."

As for immigration, I would hope that those who oppose "amnesty" or any other reform of the immigration system understand that the largest supporter of illegal immigration is, in fact, President George W Bush. When the "social conservatives" start to realize that it is the Big Business conservatives that hold all the power in their party, while lip-service is paid to the faith-based crowd and the "throw the Spanish bums out" crowd, perhaps more reasonable policy will result.

Until then, don't forget that it is the Big Business overlords who are refusing to stop the flow of illegal immigration so that they can keep their wages as low as possible and profits as high. Its just corporate welfare, people. Its not about "values" or "the American dream," ts about cheap labor for agribusiness, construction, etc. A Republican president pushed through amnesty for that reason 20 years ago, and here we have another Republic Party president doing the exact same thing. And yet the brain-washed right-wingers rail against "bleeding hearts," ignoring what is really pulling the strings: big money.

If you are a working stiff, or make less than $200,000+ per year, the Republic Party has nothing to offer for you. The occasional rhetorical appeal to "faith" and "values" notwithstanding, what has been accomplished on that front? Has George Walker Bush and his cohorts done anything to improve the "morality" of this nation? What would lead anyone to believe that they care about such quaint niceties?

My, my, my President Bush is deeply concerned about America losing it's soul.

Well Mr. Bush, why don't we just put our thinking caps on and think about just who is at fault, hmmmm?

Now who might that be, is it...SATAN????

Mr. President, Respectfully,

I disagree with your view on illegal aliens. I agree with taking on radical Islam, but this "illegal alien act-immigration bill" doesn't help the American Citizen and the Republic of the United States of America.

You have illegals already complaining that they, "don't get enough". You are giving away the Republic to illegal foreigners and they are complaining.

You cannot say, "there are triggers", because just as you are doing with this Congress, another Congress can also change those "triggers".

Q: How are you going to bring "illegal foreigners" out of the "shadows" without profiling every person in the United States?

Why aren't the policies that already exist being implemented?

There are many more questions and points I could point out, but your allegiance is to the The Republic of the United States of America, not illegal foreigners.

It is a disappointment, and I hope someone reads the Constitution to you and how your job is to protect her citizens.

Veto this "illegal alien act-immigration" bill.

After thought: the Politicians in favor of this bill keep talking about low income jobs "Americans won't do". Well once 10's of millions of illegals become legal, your children, grand children will be fighting the "amnesty aliens" for a job.
Ask your Politician.

Bush Fears America "Losing It's Soul"

This comes from the piehole of a guy who never had a soul.

Logic prisoner, it's a Latin teacher that you need, not an English teacher, if you want to know what "E Pluribus Unum" means. Maybe you only studied Greek in those logic classes, eh?

"Out of many, (is) One." or "From many, (comes) One" is the latin translation of E Pluribus Unum. It fits perfectly with Bush's message about assimilation and getting a green card for illegal immigrants. The many immigrants of ALL races who've come to this nation (including our ancestors) come together and form one U.S.A. It means unity of the disparate as one whether you're talking about states or people.

As far as I am concerned this derelict Mr. Bush has no soul. Speak for yourself you disgraceful coward.

I thought America lost its soul when James Brown died?

It's obvious that this country is split down the middle,and getting worse.

So I ask the question,is it time to consider splitting into (2) countries?

Soul of America,
I believe this so-called debate on immigration has crossed party lines, and it is bigger than taking a shot at Corporate America.

You don't think Unions (basically Democrat) will gain?
Everyone from School Unions to Agriculture Unions, will expand.

I'm finding the people here have been mostly united. Against this bill. The response is for America, not illegals.

I will mention that History will say, "this 110th Democrat controlled Congress and Republican Presidency", will be recognised in future articles. If not, then the article wouldn't be telling you the truth.

Contact Politicians to vote NO, for Amnesty aliens.

No thanks, Loon, we Republicans are not in the business of throwing away half our country. We weren't in 1860 and we're not now. Although if you guys would like to throw away a few more Senate seats, like you did with Joe Lieberman, we'd be okay with you guys doing that.

Historically our government has welcomes immigrants & the people who have been already here, even if they were immigrants themselves, have hated the new arrivals. Nothing new here.

PG,

"You don't think Unions (basically Democrat) will gain?"

So you're saying that the unions support a large influx of unskilled cheap labor which suppresses wages and damages the interests of their current clients?

"I'm deeply concerned about America losing its soul," he said.

Can we 5150 this guy?

Seriously folks, there are people in Congress who would jump like a lemming off a cliff in support of some of his policies - who absolutely hate Bush's stance on illegal immigration. He doesn't speak for the majority of his own party, much less for Democrats, when he airs his views on this issue.

How can he say we are losing our soul when all we want is for someone to enforce our laws and protect us? And since when did America rise on illegal immigration? Did it ever dawn on the man that it is just this kind of sincere stupidity that is responsible for his approval ratings?

Oh, I get it. He's been reading again. He gets those dangerous things, you know. They're called ideas. They happen when you think. He does this sometimes. It's good for him.

The last book he must have read - which also inspired him - was "My life as a public speaker" by Dan Quayle.

This country lost its soul twice. First in 2000 when the Bush Machine and Repub controlled Supreme Court stole it, and then again in 04 when the country's 49-50% Idiot's Club voted for him again. Even then it took Ohio's criminal cabal to steal it a second time.

Logic prisoner, it's a Latin teacher that you need, not an English teacher, if you want to know what "E Pluribus Unum" means. Maybe you only studied Greek in those logic classes, eh?

Posted by: Jeff | May 29, 2007 3:18:21 PM

Got ya Jeff. Thanks for that. I still think the man has no soul or a very little at best. Here's one for you to ponder if you buy the idea that Mr Bush is an effective leader. Caveat Emptor!!!

Now when you're feelin low and the fish
Won't bite you need a little bit o' soul
To put you right you gotta make like you
Wanna kneel and pray and then a little
Bit o' soul will come your way

Now when your girl has gone and you're
Broke in two you need a little bit o' soul
To see you through and when you raise the roof
With you rock and roll you'll get a lot
More kicks with a little bit o' soul

And if your party falls 'cause there's
Nobody groovin' a little bit o' soul and
It really starts movin', yeah!

Now when you're in a mess and you feel
Like cryin' just remember this little
Song of mine and as you walk through life
Tryin' to reach your goal remember what
I say 'bout a little bit o' soul

And if your party falls 'cause there's
Nobody groovin' a little bit o' soul and
It really starts movin', yeah!

A little bit o' soul A little bit o' soul
A little bit o' soul......

Bush is right, the US has lost its soul. It started after he hijacked his 1st presidential election.

Soul of America,

Yep, until the Unions start hearing from their membership, as the phones have been ringing off the hooks in Washington for the Politicians, they will look at this (unfortunately) as expanding their base to receive more dues. $$$$$

Your right with what you said, wages, damages, cheap labor etc, but where are the Union leaders opposing this bill (publicly). Where are the Union members going public against their Democrat base.

I'm just trying to look at this from all sides.
Democrat's, supported by Unions. supposedly
Republicans, supported by Business. supposedly

Good grief: Shrub speaking about the country 'losing it's soul'?!?!

Where to start? Suffice to say anyone who espouses and endorses torture loses the right to even ask the question.

Thank you Mr. Irrelevant. Keep on babbling. Conan O'Brian needs more material.

Paging Aretha and Stevie...

PG,

Your points are well taken, and I should have said in my first response that you are dead on that this issue cuts across party lines, as I attempted to expose in the big business vs. social conservative rift.

I do find it interesting, though, listening to many of the right-wing hand-wringers (not you), that they seem to direct their ire exclusively at Democrats and "liberals" for their support of amnesty, when in fact amnesty has been at the center of the Bush agenda since he took office. And I stand by my statement that the largest constituency for illegal immigration amnesty is big business. This helps to explain why there is such large-scale animosity to this bill with the general public, but the bought and paid-for Congresspeople will pass it against the will of the people as it is commonly understood, and the legislation will be signed and promoted as progress by President Bush. Progress in the sense that it will make the rich richer, and the poor poorer, as almost all of the GOP's economic policies are designed to do.

What I find interesting is that none of the large conglomerates who rule the economy have signed on to the concept of universal health care. I suppose it fits in the same myopic, near-term mentality that justifies "supply-side" policies that concentrate ever-increasing economic power in the Top 1% while aggressively squeezing those who aren't fortunate enough to be CEO's or heirs to large fortunes. That may work for a while, but eventually the peons who are being hosed by the system will no longer be able to purchase the goods and services that those at the top are selling, which in the long run will cause more harm to the economy than the good caused by low taxes on capitol and wealth.

A recent Time magazine showed the health care costs of the major car companies, with the Big 3 U.S. companies averaging $1250 per car while our Japanese competitors average $250. If health care costs are spread more wisely across society as a whole, this would undo a large competitive disadvantage that American companies face in relation to the rest of the industrial world. Universal health care would also be corporate welfare, which is why I continue to shake my head that GM, Ford, GE, etc. don't fight harder for it.

Sorry for the digression, but I needed to get that off my chest.

PG,

Your points are well taken, and I should have said in my first response that you are dead on that this issue cuts across party lines, as I attempted to expose in the big business vs. social conservative rift.

I do find it interesting, though, listening to many of the right-wing hand-wringers (not you), that they seem to direct their ire exclusively at Democrats and "liberals" for their support of amnesty, when in fact amnesty has been at the center of the Bush agenda since he took office. And I stand by my statement that the largest constituency for illegal immigration amnesty is big business. This helps to explain why there is such large-scale animosity to this bill with the general public, but the bought and paid-for Congresspeople will pass it against the will of the people as it is commonly understood, and the legislation will be signed and promoted as progress by President Bush. Progress in the sense that it will make the rich richer, and the poor poorer, as almost all of the GOP's economic policies are designed to do.

What I find interesting is that none of the large conglomerates who rule the economy have signed on to the concept of universal health care. I suppose it fits in the same myopic, near-term mentality that justifies "supply-side" policies that concentrate ever-increasing economic power in the Top 1% while aggressively squeezing those who aren't fortunate enough to be CEO's or heirs to large fortunes. That may work for a while, but eventually the peons who are being hosed by the system will no longer be able to purchase the goods and services that those at the top are selling, which in the long run will cause more harm to the economy than the good caused by low taxes on capitol and wealth.

A recent Time magazine showed the health care costs of the major car companies, with the Big 3 U.S. companies averaging $1250 per car while our Japanese competitors average $250. If health care costs are spread more wisely across society as a whole, this would undo a large competitive disadvantage that American companies face in relation to the rest of the industrial world. Universal health care would also be corporate welfare, which is why I continue to shake my head that GM, Ford, GE, etc. don't fight harder for it.

Sorry for the digression, but I needed to get that off my chest.

RomanB,
We all know you're SLooow,but get over it... In 2000...Bush had more votes,Duuuhhhh!

Paulo

I checked the story re what Bush said, and the word "illegal" seems to have been omitted from his diatribe. Some posters here have included it, but it seems to have escaped the President.

In a nation where a majority believes that Saddam actually had something to do with 9/11, the President's omitting "illegal" is much the same problem - failure to precisely describe the facts, in the hope of generating a blind emotional response. When you pander to the fundamentalists, I suppose this is par for the course. Bush's problem is in explaining himself to those with a functioning medulla.

Close the darned borders effectively; then, let's talk about those who've already snuck in.

Who wrote this speech? Every one of us knows that these are not Bush's words. He wants cheap labor for his corporate sponsors. Assimilate? Please. E Pluribus Unum? He can't get one sentence in Texas English out of his mouth without gagging and stumbling over the words and making a bigger fool out of himself than the world already knows that he is. Now he's going to speak Latin? "E Pluribus Unum" loosely translated means "Many uniting into one" or "Out of many become one". They had to have dressed this monkey up and taught this to him phonetically. Words from the "Great Uniter, The Decider". "You're either with us or against us".

Quite a bit of this country was once a part of Mexico and the illegal status and calling them immigrants is a stupid politic. Many of them were here before the pilgrims. Where is the "soul of America" in that? How does Bush define that? Build a racist wall?

RomanB,
We all know you're SLooow,but get over it... In 2000...Bush had more votes,Duuuhhhh!

Paulo
Posted by: Paulo | May 29, 2007 9:33:47 PM

Paulo, don't know which alternate universe you came from but here on this earth in the year of Our Lord 2000:

Al Gore (Democrat) 50,999,897 48.38
George W. Bush (Republican) 50,456,002 47.87

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/prespop.htm

Might I suggest that you apologize to RomanB and return to whatever world in which George Bush had more votes in 2000, and remain there. I for one would be most grateful.

Funny that GW says America has lost its soul. His response to the Middle Eastern problem suggests he's the one who lost his soul!

But back to the point: Immigration is a hot issue because we have very few jobs and overcrowded cities, which is what the illegals are looking for and where they have the best chance (not much of one) for finding work. The solution is neither mass legalization (apologies to all affected ethnic groups) nor closing our borders completely. Instead, we should have stations at each place where people enter our country - and enough guards to prevent "undetected" entry - to either verify people's legitimate residency or to ask these questions:

1. Do you already have a job and a place to live?
2. If not, who will provide them?
3. If yes, are you prepared to pay taxes and otherwise contribute to America?

Many illegals are here to help their families "back home." That's great, as long as they don't rob their new home by doing that.

Mr. President, please quit moralizing. For at least many of us, it's not appreciated, especially in light of the mess you've made in the Middle East.

The illegal alien issue is hot because 1. the US has too few jobs for its legal residents and citizens, 2. our major cities are already overcrowded, and 3. the nation's economy is already in trouble without illegal aliens' misusing the system to get what they need without paying anything besides the price of goods.

Apologies to everyone in the affected ethnic groups, but the solution is not to enact "mass legalization." Instead, we need to make it impossible for anyone to cross our borders "undetected" and to have to answer the following questions upon (re-)entry:

1. Do you have a passport or other nationally recognized ID? (Run a background check when ID is presented!)
2. Do you have a job and a place to live?
3. If NO to Item 2, who will provide these?
4. If YES to Item 2, are you fulfilling your financial obligation to your state and this country? (Verify if yes!)

Yes, this is strict, but if we continue with the current lax enforcement of immigration/emigration laws, our country will eventually have neither the funds it needs nor jobs for its legal residents and citizens.

"1. Do you have a passport or other nationally recognized ID? (Run a background check when ID is presented!)
2. Do you have a job and a place to live?
3. If NO to Item 2, who will provide these?
4. If YES to Item 2, are you fulfilling your financial obligation to your state and this country? (Verify if yes!)"

So wiat, let me get this straight...

If I answer #1 Yes, and produce my passport showing that I'm a United States Citizen, but answer #2 that I am currently unemeployed, and then answer #3 that I don't know when I will be able to get a job, will I be barred re-entry into the country?

If I answer Yes to #1 and am a US citizen, Yes to #2 that I have a job and home, How am I supposed to verify #4, do I have to carry my tax returns when I travel? If I'm involved in a tax dispute with the IRS will I be denied re-entry to the US, becoming a stateless person?

Soul of America,

You know, at this particular time I'm more concerned with the "Face of America", than healthcare, because America is going to change by illegal-legal means with this "amnesty bill".

Sen. Vitter, compared 1986 & 2007 bills. It's amnesty. Go to his Home page.

The hard part is going to be watching (over several years) the change. That's not racist, that's just fact.
The people don't mind legal immigration.
The people don't like illegal aliens.
and
I believe all the people haven't really taken in the numbers that this amnesty bill will create.

Some pro amnesty, Politicians and groups are complaining that families are going to be broken up as the bill is written.
All that says to me is 10-20 million illegals x brother sister mother father uncle aunty = 10's of millions.

Now you have millions more legal aliens, yes legal, who are going to hit the social services. WELFARE.

If you think jobs and healthcare are a problem now, just wait....... for this bill to be passed.
Then the next wave of illegal aliens.
1986 3-4 million granted amnesty, 2007 10-20 million will be granted amnesty, 2007+ how many?

These Politicians need to continue hearing from all of us, Vote NO on this amnesty bill.

If anyone you contact gives you a hard time, put their NAME and number on this page.

Yes our Nation has always been one to welcome immigrants to our Country. The problem here is they were invited, came to front door and followed the laws of our Country. The problem with Illegals is they violated our laws to come here, violated our laws to stay, drain public services of resources and then have the gall to DEMAND citizenship?

This Republican President now longer represents the people.

I'm a votin' for the old white guy that doesn't like brown people!

Mr. Bush talks of soul? If it were not for "In Denial" one would find the word "soul" coming from Mr. Bush as very, very, interesting.

Does this President do "tongue in cheek"?

"The problem here is they were invited, came to front door and followed the laws of our Country."

Who invited the Pilgrims and the Jamestown settlers?

RE: Quite a bit of this country was once a part of Mexico ...

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