Congress subpoenas White House over prosecutor firings

If there's anything that's going to bring down this criminal Republican administration it's going to be their useing of the DOJ for partisan political purposes.

The Dems are right to keep pushing this because it's another thing that the Republicans have been doing that goes against all of the principles that our country was founded upon.

Huge example of useless, wasteful activities that are nothing but partisan witchhunts...there are very serious problems facing this nation, Iraq and immigration, to name a couple, and Democratic partisan digging is going on here, while the nation suffers with a total lack of determination on the part of congress...enough already of this rediculous behavior...it's past time to take of the Nation's urgent business, not this huge waste of funding and exorbitant costs toward witch hunts...

Thank you for this accurate and timely report.
I look forward to your folloow up.
CW

This is 99% PR, designed to keep the left wing happy.

After all, the lefties voted for Dems with the idea in mind that they'd hurt Bush for them. So, the politicians have to put on a show.

This is all about hurting a Republican (any Republican) to keep the hateful lefties sated.

PR

As a nation, we have to get to the bottom of this!

Gotta give the left credit, they keep trying.

Hey, the V. Plame thing didn't quite work out how they planned, Fitzmas never came...but they got Libby in the process on something unrelated to Plame.

Maybe they hope the same will happen here.

Maybe we'll find out something embarrassing about Rove or Miers so the left can (what a shock!) demonize that person on something totally unrelated
(see the AG/Hospital story as an example)

Isn't Al Gore's Assualt on Reason supposed to address these very types of games?

I love how the Republicans are all for Law & Order....for anyone who is not one of them.

Can someone tell me at what point Congress is going to knock off the petty bull hockey and actually get down to doing the work they were elected to do? This nonsense with wasting time and money on subpoenas, or trying to pass an 800+ page immigration reform bill, or fighting with the President over Iraq are not what we elected these people for. What action is being taken on the high cost of gasoline? What about the current crisis in the mortgage industry with the sudden increase in foreclosures? Instead, we have elected officials taking fact finding missions to Greenland to see supposed evidence on global warming. If this is what we elected these people for, they are going to be counting terms in office on one finger.

I find it troubling that we must still point fingers and label this a left/right issue. The abuses against our nation are affecting all of us and to be blinded by rhetoric is an abomination. For Shame! The White House should have complied months ago. Let the Truth ring loud.

Rampant partisanship injected into what is supposed to be blind justice for all is the issue here. It is incredible to see how apologists for this administration ignore the gross negligence of the justice department made evident by the recent congressional tenstimonies of monica goodling, kyle sampson, alberto gonzales etc...
Where is the accountability for important decisions made regarding important government institutions like the justice department? "I do not recall" does not cut it. If we as citizens do not expect honesty and integrity from those public servants who act on our constitution's behalf then we open the door to incredibly shady government abuse of its power.
Was it not Rove who said that these last 6 years where the opportunity to permantly implemement the structure to keep a republican majority? If this energy was put into the justice department we have serious issues that I think will come to light when these subpoenas make their way through the courts.

@Roy, PR: So it's fair for the Republicans to invoke partisan politics in their hiring and firing decisions for one of our nation's most crucial institutions, but then cry foul when the Democratic Party returns the love? Turnabout is fair play, folks.

And to the point that nothing is getting done with respect to immigration, heck, talk to the slew of Republican senators who decided to bury any possibility of immigration reform under a mountain of amendments.

It's about time that someone takes a stand against this administrations abuse of power. I applaud the Democratic leaders for trying to pass legislation they promised the American people, even though they are blocked at every corner, and for trying to clean up the mess that the Bush Administration made.

When it comes to loose republican leadership abusing our freedoms and trampling over crucial pillars of our society, it's a shame to see comments trying to put up smoke and blame democrats. Libby got off easy for politicizing, criminal acts while he should have focused on our ENTIRE nation. Republicans are accountable when they recklessly and pompously cross lines. So you republicans out there learn something: you cannot get away with murder every friggin time!

Let justice live. We need decency back in our gov't. Thanks to whoever does their bit, democrats, libertarians, above republicans that understand this and make decent stands.

Peace.

When it comes to loose republican leadership abusing our freedoms and trampling over crucial pillars of our society, it's a shame to see comments trying to put up smoke and blame democrats. Libby got off easy for politicizing, criminal acts while he should have focused on our ENTIRE nation. Republicans are accountable when they recklessly and pompously cross lines. So you republicans out there learn something: you cannot get away with murder every friggin time!

Let justice live. We need decency back in our gov't. Thanks to whoever does their bit, democrats, libertarians, above all the republicans that understand this and make decent stands.

Peace.

Too bad those darn emails got losted. But there is some good news.

Tim Griffin accidentally emailed some 500 of them to georgewbush.org instead of georgewbush.com. Now georgewbush.org is a parody site set up by friends of investigative journalist Greg Palast (of BBC), who has shared them with John Conyers (see some of them at Palast's site http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=413062748&size=o, and watch Greg, Randi Rhodes, and RFK, Jr. tell about it on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6C0F65AB2719BDF5.

Ignorance is no excuse -- educate yourselves, folks! It doesn't hurt -- really!

Posted by JD June 13, 2007 1:51 PM

Just Dumb,

I remember when the Wingnut Party (Your Guys) impeached Bill Clinton for a stain on a dress and I can only imagine what the mouthbreathing rightwing would have done if they had caught Bubba useing the DOJ for partisan political purposes like the Commander Guy has been doing.

That's called playing politics, this is called breaking the law, little JD.

Any lawyer worth his or her salt will tell you that failure to comply with a subpoena is a serious matter. Invoking some sort of global 'executive privilege' over every single e-mail, document, or possible testimony is not legal. Yes, there are legitimate areas where executive privilege can and should be invoked. But casting a tent over the entire White House and refusing to comply is plainly unlawful.

The uber fascist Dan Burton sent over 1,500 subpoenas to the Clinton White House alone in case our wingnut friends have forgotten. (Clinton also complied with the vast majority of them.)

John E.
What law was broken?

Gosh, kind of reminds a person of the mass firings of a lot of travel agents way back in 93 ( I think). guess it all depends on which political party is in power as to who gets to fire people.

The wingnuts loved this from 92-2000. I feel your hurt losers.

All the Cons in the audience need to let the torch die on Clinton and his transgressions. You did your best to neuter him and, well shucks, you couldn't quite do it. Clinton made mistakes. He paid for them. You want him to pay twice, that's your problem.
Now that bush has erred, it's time for the bill to be paid. Can't cry about it because that means you'd be hypocritical. Wouldn't want that now would we?

Just Dumb,
The Constitution.

John E.
What law was broken?

Posted by: JD | June 13, 2007 2:52 PM

Red herring alert.

Congressional oversight goes to good governance, not law enforcement. If they decided to fire all prosecutors born in an odd-numbered year, do you suppose it would be appropriate for Congress to look into it? Or should Congress just pass it off because it was not illegal?

Moreover, lying to Congress does constitute breaking a law. As you Republicans well know, it's not the crime, it's the coverup.

"What law was broken?"

Posted by: JD | June 13, 2007 2:52 PM

Plenty by Republics, but if the US Attorneys didn't look the other way or started investigations they were fired. Why don't you get this?

Say, isn't this about getting to the bottom of what appears to be criminal behavior?

When it looks like republican leadership tried to push false democratic indictments and squash true republican investigations immediately before an election, isn't this a concerted effort to destroy our democracy?

So, to the republicans who nay-say this investigation: why is this a partison argument? Don't you believe in democracy too?

It's sad that republicans feel that they can't win on a level playing field (they can't) and subsequently believe that since they must win, any means to get to the end is acceptable.

Shame on you.

There are many witches in this government.

We complain about congress not policing themselves. We
complain when they do. We need to makeup our minds.

JD, which one are you....crybaby or hypocrite?

I think the whole thing is
ridiculous. Its just another democrat witch hunt.I only hope that one
day the republicans learn how to play the game and become as vicious as the
dems.
Paul J.

I think the whole thing is
ridiculous. Its just another democrat witch hunt.I only hope that one
day the republicans learn how to play the game and become as vicious as the
dems.
Paul J.

What law was broken?

From the Washington Post: "In 1981, the Republican National Committee sent letters to predominantly black neighborhoods in New Jersey, and when 45,000 letters were returned as undeliverable, the committee compiled a challenge list to remove those voters from the rolls. The RNC sent off-duty law enforcement officials to the polls and hung posters in heavily black neighborhoods warning that violating election laws is a crime."

The Washington Post continues: "In 1986, the RNC tried to have 31,000 voters, most of them black, removed from the rolls in Louisiana when a party mailer was returned. The consent decrees that resulted prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that target minorities or conduct mail campaigns to 'compile voter challenge lists.'"

Now, dear reader, it is manifestly evident that black SOLDIERS SERVING IN IRAQ were targeting by this "caging" technique. They were not "living at their mailing address", ie., stateside, so the RNC sends lawyers to challenge their absentee ballots.

What is even more horrendous is that these US Atty's were fired for refusing to use their office to trump up bogus charges against Democrats, and/or refusing to give GOP crooks (e.g. Duke Cunningham) a pass.

Something tells me, the person who asked "what law was broken?" won't look at the links I have provided here and in my previous post above, because THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THE ANSWER. THEY ONLY ASK IT TO CONFUSE THE UNSURE.

Read this before you ask again, OK?

and I guess the whitewater tapes or records should not be remembered because that wasn't concerning the trashing of the current President. Anything is fair game if it sheds a black light on this administration, but it is of no revelance if it happened in the past administration.

OK, what was the "bad governing" and who "lied to Congress?"

How was the Constitution "broken" John E.?

C'mon ....use those big words you've been looking up.

(I posted this two hours ago, but maybe it didn't go thru)

What law was broken?

From the Washington Post: "In 1981, the Republican National Committee sent letters to predominantly black neighborhoods in New Jersey, and when 45,000 letters were returned as undeliverable, the committee compiled a challenge list to remove those voters from the rolls. The RNC sent off-duty law enforcement officials to the polls and hung posters in heavily black neighborhoods warning that violating election laws is a crime."

The Washington Post continues: "In 1986, the RNC tried to have 31,000 voters, most of them black, removed from the rolls in Louisiana when a party mailer was returned. The consent decrees that resulted prohibited the party from engaging in anti-fraud initiatives that target minorities or conduct mail campaigns to 'compile voter challenge lists.'"

Now, dear reader, it is manifestly evident that black SOLDIERS SERVING IN IRAQ were targeting by this "caging" technique. They were not "living at their mailing address", ie., stateside, so the RNC sends lawyers to challenge their absentee ballots.

Something tells me, the person who asked "what law was broken?" won't look at the links I have provided here and in my previous post above, because THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THE ANSWER. THEY ONLY ASK IT TO CONFUSE THE UNSURE.

The US Atty's were sacked because they refused to use their office to throw elections of Democrats, or conversely, refused to spare GOP criminals like "Duke" Cunningham.

Sorry to burst a lot of bubbles here, but firing federal prosecutors is LEGAL.

With all this controversy over the administration’s firing of eight federal prosecutors, little attention has been paid to the fact that President Bill Clintons first act as president was sacking all 93 U.S. attorneys appointed by Ronald Reagan or George H.W. Bush.

Yep, that's right, crybabies, Bill Clinton fired ALL of them when he took office.

One more time: Clinton fired them ALL. Not eight. ALL 93.

It is LEGAL to fire US attorneys.

And by the way, crybabies, what will "bring down" the current administration WON'T be any of this rubbish. It will be term limits. Bush will go at the end of his term. There's not going to be an impeachment, so you can forget about that little wet dream of yours. Gee, maybe Hillary will become president so she can take HER turn showing the world that America is weak and pathetic, like her husband spent so much time doing.

pwhited, you are a nitwit. Your 'argument' has been thoroughly disproven many threads ago.

If you can't keep up, don't post.

I guess that depends on what your definition of "legal" is (to paraphrase every republitards favorite whipping boy on this blog).

With all this controversy over the administration’s firing of eight federal prosecutors, little attention has been paid to the fact that President Bill Clintons first act as president was sacking all 93 U.S. attorneys appointed by Ronald Reagan or George H.W. Bush.

Posted by: pwhited | June 13, 2007 6:54 PM

Sorry,Dude. False analogy. As I explained to another talking point regurgitator, whenever a new President takes over, all of the attorney submit their resignations. They do it because they know when they are hired they are there at the pleasure of the President. (Remember Tony Snow saying that 500 times?) That means that Reagan accepted the resignations of all of Carter's U.S. attorneys and Bush II accepted the resignations of Clinton's. When you submit a letter of resignation and it's accepted, that's not being fired.

The truth is simple and that is that there are Democratic leaders in Congress supported by left wing radical groups like Moveon.org and funded by people like George Soros who hate Bush so much, it has become a literal obsession with them to see him destroyed and his Presidency reduced to ruins. What some would called Congressional policing is nothing less than a grandiose witchhunt with Grand Inquistors like Reid and Pelosi leading the pack. These people hate Bush so much, I would not be the least bit surprised if they continued to dog him long after he has left office. Sadly, the only way I can see them stopped is if voters wised up to what these elected official are really up to and voted them out of office, but I don't see that happening in the near future. These people are fueled by hatred and paranonia and right on, groups like moveon.org are powered by these exact same things.

pwhited-"the high & mighty one"

BILL CLINTON FIRED 93 US ATTORNEYS AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS TERM.....NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS TERM AND NOT ONLY A FEW "SELECTED" USA's WHO JUST HAPPENED TO BE INVESTIGATING REPUBLICANS LIKE PREZ CHIMPY DID AND YES I AM SCREAMING AT YOU, YOU PARTISAN BONEHEAD!

Catherine, dear, your post here is bordering on John E. I know you can do better!

And speaking of mankind's biggest embarrassment, John E., you want to talk about a president who abused the DoJ, then just look at Bill Clintoon and the Attack of the Seven-Foot Ugly Woman (or at least I think she is a woman) Janet Reno. For eight years, that department was a sham, ending in the pardoning of drug lords and Marc Rich.

Whoa Proud Primate. You totally blew my mind!

You are right. Bring down those old rich white dudes man.

I can't believe you are the only one who knows all of this! We have to tell the masses about this website and story dude!

I wonder if Congress knows about this man.

AG is screwed now man!

Peace out brother.

Dude, Proud Primate,
I'm with you dude,

I read the links man. I'm also with Raving Loon who exposes JOe Lieberman and the Jewish Lobby man.

I know John E. is in our corner. We'll show those guys.

AW man.....that link also had a correction man.

aww we might be in trouble man.

CORRECTION: The originally published version of this article reported that Goodling testified that Alberto Gonzales' Chief of Staff, Kyle Sampson had perjured himself by not discussing his involvement with "vote caging". Goodling, in fact, was referencing Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty's testimony in her statement, not Sampson. The error, which The BRAD BLOG regrets, has now been corrected in the article above

Aw dude, Brad may have let us down.

ProudPrimate, keep posting and linking. We need people like you on this board.

John E., Wienerdog, Tony and Raving Loon are getting boring.

So pwhited,

Would you say the U.S. is more feared and respected in the world now, or before Bush took office?

After BushCo's disastrous blunder in Iraq, I don't think any of our potential enemy's are worried about our conventional firepower. And, there's no question we've lost respect throughout the world during Bush's tenure, there are dozens of polls that support this.

Re: Gonzales, Do you want the DOJ to be a political arm of the White House? These things work both ways, you know. Would you just say "business as usual" if a democratic appointed Attorney General and his staff fired U.S. attorneys midstream because they weren't towing the party line? U.S. Attorney's were never intended to be partisan hacks.

Is this worth the effort? Constituents of these representatives should be screaming at these clowns who are wasting time and money on political positioning instead of doing the people's business. I mean really, on the list of things that need done by the congress, this must rank far down the list. It just goes to show that BOTH parties are corrupt, bought and paid for by big lobbies, and we need to flush both houses every election until the message is clear...stop the political crap and do your job.

Clinton fired all but one US Attorney, including one that was actively investigating Hillary; no problem, the Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President.

Then Bush fires one-tenth as many and, all hell breaks loose.

What's the difference? Oh, that's right, Bush isn't a democrat.

I can see these long sentences just allow tall grass for the Wingers to hide in.

OK, then, "WHAT LAW WAS BROKEN?"

Answer: Election fraud.

Proud Primate, and yes the Left does consist of nothing but primates and I'm thinking baboon too, but when it comes to election fraud, you might want to take a look at the Democratic party. You know the party, in which even though the GOP candidate for governor in Washington won the election, won the first recount, won the second recount, but lost the third recount as "votes" kept mysteriously popping up in "warehouses." Or how about in St. Louis, in which the ballots never get counted until the tally from the rest of Missouri is in. Or how about in Wisconsin, in which several Democrats were sentenced to prison just last year for election fraud. Or how about here in Illinois?

OK, what was the "bad governing" and who "lied to Congress?"

How was the Constitution "broken" John E.?

C'mon ....use those big words you've been looking up.

Posted by: JD | June 13, 2007 5:40 PM

JD: Having the Justice Department run on the basis of politics, rather than the merits of given cases, is arguably bad governance. It is apparent beyond any serious dispute that the firings were entirely political. Even if you dispute that this is, in fact, bad governance, perhaps you can agree that reasonable minds might differ on the point, which means it's reasonable to explore the question.

It's kind of evident that Gonzo's been lying to Congress about his role in the firings. As a Republicant, you are by definition unduly credulous about this admin, but let's face, anyone with a minimal level of discernment can tell that clown was lying.

If there is nothing to hide and no law has been broken why such a cover up and obstruction of Justice. I am so sick of this "I can walk on water because I can talk to Jesus" mentality.

Everyone, take a big breath. Look around and re-read.
JD is only crafting notes with the intent of fanning the flames.
Don't take the bait. Ignore him and he'll go away. Post and he'll do what he is paid for.

I can't believe how many people fall for this. Republican / Democrat, what's the difference? Both types of politician's lie to take our money and set up cameras and curfews for us. No, wait.. I'm an idiot and I love when the government thinks for me.

Wake up people or go back to sleep. You can't complain when you don't vote for people who actually care about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Out of all the scandals that have come out of this administration: Iraq, CIA leak, Kateria, Walter Reed, Abu Ghraib, etc, this is probably one of the worst. This country was founded on equal justice and this administration made a mockery of the justice department. They wanted party before country. They’re job and devotion was to the Constitution, not the political hack influence of the Bush White House. The Attorneys knew that and when they stood up- they got fired. Yes, I’ll agree some people need to be fired, unfortunately, so far its been all the wrong people!

Its been established quite clearly that Presidents have the power and as established by previous administrations the right to fire and hire as they will.

EG Bill the half man Clinton's firing of almost 100.

Give it up Congress it is boring and it is making you look anal......

Friends:

Keep in mind that you are dealing with a group that believes the earth and everything on it sprang from the brow of an old man with a white beard. They also seem to abhor everyone who is not exactly like them. It is possible that, if left unchecked, they would make it illegal for Democrats (or gays, muslims, scientists, and the ilk) to breathe the polluted air in our country.

But, consider the source. Have pity. The poor things aren't capable of reason and logic.

Anyone who defends Bush and his administration is in the 29% minority in this country....

This issue is not as complicated as everyone is making it. These men serve at the request and honor of the president, and he can replace them anytime he sees fit, period! Congress has nothing to do with this process, and should stay out of it. When did we decide to let congress become the courts in this country anyway. They can not even do the work we have elected them to do, so they need to get back to the work of our country, and let the department do thier jobs as well. I have not seen one good thing come from this new congress, and not much from the republicans either. I would love to get rid of the entire lot and start over with men and women that want to lead this country.

It's funny how all the Republicans are calling this a waste of resources and a witchhunt when they spent all that time and money on Bill Clinton's Lewinsky Scandal. And what happened when President Clinton tried to take care of things that mattered, like fire rockets at Osama. You Republicans jumped down his throat for DISTRACTING the American people from the Lewinsky Scandal. Priorities aren't a matter of convenience so don't get so sour when your own republican officials are corrupt to the core and a few politicians are trying to expose and do something about it.

~KB

...so proud Primate, this so called "AG" scandal is about eletion fraud?

Help me out John E. A blinkin etc.... is this what it's about?

I hear about lying etc...election fraud.

Why have no charges been brought?

Could it be that you guys and your conspiracy theories are .....oh, I don't know.......NUTS?

Welcome aboard Proud Primate. Keep em' coming. Link all the websites you can. I need some new fodder. Like I said, John E. et al are getting boring.

John D and all..

This is where I lose all respect for you and Republicans. If Dems were pulling the same stunt of rigging the DOJ you'd be screaming. I pray you guys go home and don't come back. You are destroying this country. And FYI you've accused me and people like me of not having jobs. I have my own business and earn 4+ times the average American. I work 14+ hours a day routinely. Please, pull your head out.

Congress has nothing to do with this process, and should stay out of it.

For some reason, the requirement that Congress approve mid-term replacements for federal attorney posts was removed by the last Homeland Security Act. And the Bush administration is taking full advantage of it.

The attorneys are appointed by the president, but they are here to serve US, the people. Using the DOJ to promote a political agenda, either by not prosecuting the party faithful, or overly aggressive prosecution of those with different political opinions is a perversion of democracy and a tremendous threat to our democracy. Everyone defending Bush on this should realize that there may come a day when another administration will do the same thing, only to their detriment if it's an extremist with a different political ideology than their own.

incognita
politicalstew.com

"and he can replace them anytime he sees fit, period!"

It would be a criminal act to fire a USA to stop an ongoing investigation. So far that is a real possibility. Until the congress is allowed to do their job and investigate, we don't know. This is an INVESTIGATION! This is not a criminal trial.

I know all you Repugnants have forgotten; but THAT IS CONGRESSE'S JOB for god sake. Just because the pugs stopped doing that for 6 years doesn't mean that it stopped being their responsibility. The Dems have 6 years of catching up to do since the last Congress was so worthless. The same pug party had absolutely no problem spending the majority of their time investigating the last real president over consensual sex.

BTW, I am a registered republican that this bunch of crooks lost back when Newt hit his stride. Remember the guy that lead the charge against Clinton’s morals for having extramarital affair while having one his self? Hypocrisy seems to be the Pug’s stock and trade since (up to the “Z” in Alzheimer’s) Ronny refused to admit to Iran-Contra after being caught red handed. (Remember Bush 1 pardoned those guys).

I believe in the Constitution, I believe in free speech, I believe in the checks and balances, I believe in the freedoms that made this country great. It is not a “liberal” thing to want to restore those things. That is by definition, CONSERVATIVE!

"And what happened when President Clinton tried to take care of things that mattered, LIKE FIRE ROCKETS AT OSAMA. You Republicans jumped down his throat for DISTRACTING the American people from the Lewinsky Scandal." (my caps)

AMEN and THANK YOU!

I think we hit on something here, maybe we can stop our people from dying in Iraq for Cheney by accusing him of trying to distract us from the important issue of Paris's jail time. It worked for the Pubs and lead to 9/11.

It's shocking to me that so many people would write to say that this is all just politics when the very fabric of our democracy - the separation of powers - has been consistently erroded and ignored by the Bush administration. What does America hold sacred anymore when so many citizens are willing to look the other way while justice is so brazenly and broadly tainted? Yes, these prosecutors serve at the pleasure of the president. But don't you Republicans agree that firing the AGs to avoid prosecution of legitimate crimes is wrong? We have been sitting by quietly for too long while a president who does not share our American values uses his position to transform our national identity from greatness to common, ugly despotism.

Yes the Repubs (Karl RoVe) pulled off a good one. Use the Patriot Act to bypass Congress and promote there own political agenda.
Americans need invoke their own "Patriot Act" and get Repubs out of office.

To all of you idiots who don't think that this firing situation is a problem . . . Here is a lesson for you. Please read it before making more of your moronic comments.

The constitution sets forth the idea that the judicial branch of government is to remain independent and impartial to the bias of political parties, with the function being to uphold the rule of law. This is why Sup Court appointments are permanent, really to ensure that a judge at that level can interpret the law without worrying for his/her job.

In all new administrations, when the changeover occurs many appointed positions (such as these attorney positions) are restaffed. This is maybe an unfortunate oversight in some ways by the framers of the Constitution, but happens every time. ALL presidents, regardless of party, do this at the beginning of their term. But once this process is complete, the attorneys (or appointed judges, etc) are secure in the knowledge that they will be able to uphold and enforce the law as they understood it. The Bush admin has unconscionably replaced these people mid-stream for not following a certain political bias (Monica Goodling has testified under oath that this is the case). This is illegal, and it also TERRORIZES other attorneys, indicating to them that they now must uphold law with a measure of political bias to if they value their jobs.

So you morons who think that replacing attorneys at the beginning of an new administration is anything like the actions of replacing a selective few midstream really need to start thinking on a different level or go back to watching American Idol, because you don't understand the issue well enough to comment on it.

John D.:

I'm not going to defend Democrats, sorry to disappoint. As best I can determine, all the top tier candidates in both parties are selling us out to the corporations, with both hands.

Conversely, the honest candidates, Democrats Dennis Kucinich & Mike Gravel, and Republican Ron Paul are on extreme opposite sides about certain monetary policies and philosophical principles, but all three are scrupulously honest and up-front about where we are at.

That is what separates them from the Big Boys (and Girl): honesty, and whom they serve: the Constitution and the People on whose behalf it was written, as opposed to the Bankers, the Corporations (who have no loyalty to ANY country) and the aristocrats of Europe, who never got over losing the War of Independence, much less the Civil War.

("ah! I miss that cheap cotton, don't you Charles? Yes, Mum, those were the days!")

Matt B:

Excellent points and clearly stated! That is really the core issue: the law must be above perversion for political gain, or else it's worse than worthless.

funny -- I just posted three posts. the long one, the first one, still hasn't shown up; the others are here. Must be the editors doing a little headscratching?

Ok, Primate, you do make a few valid points, but you're still stuck in some pro-government saves us all socialism nonsense.

"pro-government saves us all socialism nonsense"

Can you be more specific?

I'm about to repost the long explanatory piece the editors are sitting on.

Welcome aboard Proud Primate.
Thanks.

Link all the websites you can.
Does that mean you are taking advantage of those materials?
(Or, conversely, you are good at ignoring them?)

Why have no charges been brought?
By whom? The Department of Justice? (haw! haw! haw!)

Charges are not brought by Congress, except maybe "Contempt of Congress". Congress can impeach any official, which is effectively an indictment.

But Congress's first responsibility when faced with crimes committed by the Executive Branch, is investigation. It is important to establish the facts.

But, not to disappoint you utterly, charges were bought on this offense -- in 1981. Quoting from a subsequent appeal before the Third Circuit, Democratic National Committee, et al. v. Republican National Committee, et al., Ebony Malone, Intervenor, Republican National Committee, Appellant

"In 1981 the Democratic National Committee filed suit against the RNC and the New Jersey Republican State Committee alleging that they violated the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments, inter alia, which was resolved by a consent decree entered into in 1982 which provided that the RNC will refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or elections districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately i[s] directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose."

For the benefit of those unfamiliar with the term, a "consent decree" is:

"A consent decree is a judicial decree expressing a voluntary agreement between parties to a suit, especially an agreement by a defendant to cease activities alleged by the government to be illegal in return for an end to the charges."

In other words, the RNC loves to do this to black voters, has done so repeatedly in the past, got caught in 1980, and agreed to stop because that was a way to get the DNC to drop the suit. The "decree" part is that the judge certifies the agreement giving it the force of the bench.

Could it be that you guys and your conspiracy theories are .....oh, I don't know.......NUTS?
Well, to quote one of my favorite old David Crosby songs, "You know I'm crazy but I'm not REAL DUMB".

How 'bout you? Are you sane but dumb? or sane but DISHONEST?
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Summary: You're bluffing, and everybody knows it.

"the Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President." Wrong, Bill. The Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the Law. Not the President. Thats the problem. That's why they got fired- midterm, Bush didn't understand that.

Well, I guess they're not going to post it -- maybe it's too long.

Let's see if they'll post a link to it