Faith in Iowa for Obama: The Swamp
 
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Posted June 16, 2007 6:40 PM
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by John McCormick

Testing out a speech that likely will be similar to one he will give next weekend in Connecticut, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama told Iowans Saturday that America's main challenges are "moral problems."

Obama, who is a member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, was the keynote speaker for about 300 delegates at the United Church of Christ state convention in Fort Dodge. He will speak June 23 to the 26th annual synod of the United Church of Christ, gathered in Hartford, Conn.

Radio Iowa's O. Kay Henderson has the story from Iowa.

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According to B.O.:
"Those kind of "religious values" should be expressed 'through' the government, according to Obama. 'My faith teaches me that I can sit in church and pray all I want, but I won't be fulfilling God's will unless I go out and do the Lord's work,'"

Let me express a note of dissent. I do not necessarily want Obama's "religious values" (whatever they happen to be this week) to be expressed through government. He should express his religious values in the way he lives his own life rather than trying to impose them on me through force of law.

That is what separation of church and state means.


More republitard hypocrisy. If a BAC like chimpy is pushing "Faith Based Initiatives" SSherman is okeydokey. But if it's a Dem, suddenly, the republutards want a separation of church and state. Ok SSherman, denounce chimpy's faith based initiative, otherwise stand among us as the total hypocrite you obviously are.


Shouldn't we be hearing about the seperation of church and state about Boy Wonder's political speech at the United Church of Christ state convention in Fort Dodge?


ssherman,

Oh and while I am at it, tell us all gay marriage and abortion are fine too, since it is the bible that is used to condemn these.


terrie

Separation, not seperation. If you can't spell it, you don't know it, so don't use it. Like the folks that think "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is a Constitutional right. Not.

Boy wonder? I'll leave aside the "boy" part and ask which wonder the republitards have produced yet.


How can Barack Hussein Obama even mention moral issues when he's a proponent of late term abortions?
More hypocrisy from the boy-wonder.
Oh...and that church he belongs to is well known to be anti-Israeli.
The truth about this admitted illegal drug user is starting to come out...look at his poll numbers...sinkink fast!

Paulo


Politicians walk a slippery slope whenever religion is evoked.

http://blog.au.org/2007/06/06/getting-personal-questions-about-presidential-candidates-religious-lives-spark-controversy/

The only thing that's clear to me is that there is no place for non-believers like myself in this new America. Thanks for nothing, politicians.


Romney and Guiliani have already met with leaders of the Evangilicals and Southern Baptist Convention. South Carolina has an early primary. I guess this is what politicians do these days - try to sway votes from organized groups through their leaders.
I'm sure the Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton fit strangely into this puzzle, too. I was kinda hoping Obama wouldn't do that but I guess the game strategy is already in play.


"Boy wonder"? More like Boy Blunder.


I guess any polititian must pretend to have strong religeous feelings and a personal epiphany. I hope these are just a temporary pander and can be overlooked as criteria to judge any candidate. I certainly believe separation of church etc. is critical for our freedom.


Snitramo,
Oh and while I am at it, tell us all gay marriage and abortion are fine too, since it is the bible that is used to condemn these.

Is gay marriage one of the "religious values" Obama is going to run on?


Snit,

If the major flaw is typing/spelling, I'll live with that. It's a lack of logic that you possess that would bother me.

Nice straw man with the quote from the Declaration.


Paulo,

You are such a wit!

The "Hussein" reminder is so cutting edge! I'll bet your "knock-knock jokes are to die for!

No, THANK YOU!


Terry, you should know by now that Loony Leftists do not know the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence or anything to do with this country. It's like they keep spouting, "separation from church and state," and thinking religion plays no role in this country or its government, even though it doesn't say that anywhere in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence. They just want to believe in the weirdo alternative world they live in.


S.Sherman, Obama is not in favor of gay marriage, so I doubt he'll use that as a platform. You still haven't answered why it is you're fine with REPUBLICANS backing Faith-Based Initiatives and unifying state with church but oppose it when it's a Democrat.

(BTW, I'm all for separation of church and state with a Republican OR a Democrat, just so you don't decide I favor a Democratic Theocracy but not a Republican one).

Ball to S. Sherman -- will he return or fumble?


Op109,
Obama is not in favor of gay marriage

It is true that Obama once said he was not in favor of gay marriage but he also once said (according to the Tribune Sept 25, 2004 edition) that:

he would not let his religious beliefs dictate the way he approaches public policy.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0409250111sep25,1,7098310.story

Now he is saying that his religious values should be expressed through government.

So which Obama are we talking about?


NO answer on your question until I get an answer on mine.


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