Gingrich in new anti-immigration bill ad: The Swamp
The Swamp
Posted June 19, 2007 5:27 PM
The Swamp

by Frank James

Citizens United, a conservative group, has a new ad featuring former House Speaker Newt Gingrich that opposes what it calls the "McCain-Kennedy" immigration-reform bill that has gained new life in the Senate after appearing virtually dead last week

Here's a link to the ad.

And here's the ad's script:

“Mohammad Atta and several other 9/11 hijackers were in the United States illegally.”

“Today, more than 5 years since that tragic day, our borders remain open to gangs, drug dealers, and terrorists. But instead of protecting the borders, the new McCain-Kennedy immigration plan will instead put millions of people who are in our country illegally, including potential terrorists and gang members, on a path to US Citizenship. The bill does not even allow convicted criminals to be deported.”

“This is wrong…”

The argument about the proposed legislation allowing terrorists and gang bangers to gain legal status is arguably extraneous to Gingrich's argument since those who oppose the legislation, like Gingrich and Citizens United, are fundamentally against giving people who broke the law by entering the country without proper documentation a path to citizenship, period.

So it doesn't really matter, in this way of thinking, if the illegal immigrant is a violent criminal, a would be Mohammed Atta or a benign landscaping-company worker. But it does add an extra rhetorical punch to Gingrich's assertion.

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The Republican Party implosion (a/k/a fratricidal cannibalism)knows no bounds.

While Dubya fiddles...


Frank, what is a "landcaping" company?

And do you have spell check at the Tribune?


Doug Zook,
The Republican Party implosion (a/k/a fratricidal cannibalism)knows no bounds.

On the contrary, I have rarely seen such unity and such energy in the Republican Party. EVERY Republican outside the beltway seems to be against this bill and very strenuously against it.

I don't hear much from the Democrats about it. Are the Democrats for or against it?


The US would be better off if we deported worthless scum like newt.

Dead-Beat Dad:
Jackie had to take Newt to court to get him to contribute for bills, as utilities were about to be cut off.

Draft Dodger:
Gingrich avoided the Vietnam War through a combination of student and family deferments. (He married one of his teachers at age 19.)

House Banking Scandal:
Remember the House Banking scandal, where so many congressmen wrote rubber checks on government money? Newt hopes you don't, because he bounced 22 himself.

GOPAC sleaze:
GOPAC, Newt's longtime political action committee, was the centerpiece of a complex network of non-profit, and mostly tax exempt organizations that Newt has used to support himself and other conservative candidates. In an act of incredible hypocrisy, this crusader against taxes obtained taxpayer subsidies for his personal and political goals, by misusuing these tax-exempt groups.

Corporate reward:
According to the Wall Street Journal, a company hired Marianne Gingrich (Newt's wife) after he announced support for a free trade zone in Israel that they are trying to build. Her "job" for Israel Export Development Co. is to find tenants for the trade zone.

Adultery:
Several newspapers are now reporting that Newt Gingrich is dating and basically living with Callista Bisek, a "willowy blond Congressional aide 23 years his junior." Bisek, 33, has been spending nights at Gingrich's apartment near the Capitol and has her own key. In an amazing act of hypocrisy, Gingrich was apparently dating Bisek all during Clinton-Lewinsky adultery scandal, even as he proclaimed family values and bitterly criticized the President for his adultery.

Go newtie, another great repugnican.


S. Sherman,

You must have joined the RNC Bruce Swamp Patrol.


you've got to ask yourselves if u believe in democracy... i do...

democracy must mean hard knocks... the nation will not and could not always be what u want it to be...

we are hundreds of millions of people...

i say let them in, welcome...

personally my politics is well to the left of 'center'-- this includes the 2nd ammendment, which i feel most 'pro-gun' ppl take a liberal reading of... I mean they didn't make it the !2nd! Ammendment because it was the hunting ammendment... The 2nd ammendment can only be interpreted broadly...

anyway, my main feeling is that no one be paid less than the minimum wage... citizen or other...

the minimum wage is some broad compromise on what constitutes 'dignity'... why we wouldn't offer the same in courtesy to our guests is beyond me...

u know, that might take care of everything... in fact, let's raise the minimum wage too... bring in a brighter tomorrow...


Lets check the logic, Bill

Gingrich, opposes the illegal alien bill, and then, I guess, you have nothing to say on the subject, so what does Bill do, makes a personal attack on Gingrich.

Let me even the score, OK.
Dead-Beat Dad: Bill Clinton
Draft Dodger: Bill Clinton
Presidential sleaze: Bill Clinton
Corporate reward: Bill Clinton
Adultery: Bill Clinton

Did you leave something out, I missed.

Now, the Republicans and Democrats across the Country are united about this illegal alien act.
Yes, there are some both ways for it but the majority of people NOT living in Washington are opposed to it.

Instead of making snide remarks at 1 person I would hope you concentrate on what Washington is going to do and display your logic at them.

Unless of course you are for the so called "immigration bill".

Contact Washington, NO to the bill.


Bill H,
The US would be better off if we deported worthless scum like newt.

So are the Democrats for or against the bill?


S.Sherman,

Been meanin' to tell you dis - you have got COPY/PASTE down!


PG, I'll gladly add some to Clintoon:
Rapist of Juanita Broadderick.
Selling missile and nuclear technology to China in exchange for campaign cash.
Pardoning of one of the world's most wanted criminals in Marc Rich in exchange for library cash and sex with Denise Rich.
Harrasser, sexually and in a life-threatening way, of Kathleen Willey.
The selling of the Lincoln Bedroom in exchange for campaign cash.
Coffee klatches for campaign cash at the White House.
The stealing of 900 FBI files on Republicans.
Swindling life savings from seniors in Whitewater and Castle Grande.


If the democrats are smart, they will tread softly and let their Republican friends get the headlines over this bill and keep people asking "are the Democrats for or against this bill"? Let Ginghrich and the Republicans have all the credit for defeating this bill. It will be defeated. In the long run, this defeat will be a negative for the Republicans in many Congressional Districts.


If the democrats are smart, they will tread softly and let their Republican friends get the headlines over this bill and keep people asking "are the Democrats for or against this bill"? Let Ginghrich and the Republicans have all the credit for defeating this bill. It will be defeated. In the long run, this defeat will be a negative for the Republicans in many Congressional Districts.


Well PG,

I will try to put it in terms even you might understand. newt has demonstrated a complete lack of integrity across the board so he has no credibility. When people with no credibility make statements, they don't mean much to me. That is probably a foreign concept to the current repugnicans as integrity itself seems to be a foreign concept to them.

The last I checked, Clinton wasn't making any ads about the immigration bill.

S sherman, not representing the democrats (and not being one myself) I have no idea if they are for or against this bill.

I do know that you simpletons that think a fence is the answer are really in dreamland.

Did you see the recent item where we deported a mentally disabled American citizen of Mexican descent? He is now missing in Mexico and his family is frantic. All of the pinhead authorities responsible say they did nothing wrong. Disregard for individual rights for the supposed "good of the state" is a keystone of fascism.

If you extremist nuts ever do take over (which I doubt) I will be one of the first "insurgents".

Personally, I say open the border, provide no government benefits to non-citizens and let the market sort it out.

Looking at the cost of the nutty enforcement programs proposed so far, it would be cheaper to meet everyone at the border and pay them to turn around.


I'm for inviting hard working hispanics to come to America to reside and work and I'm also for deporting all of the draftdodging, racist, bigoted, angry old white guy Republican Party members.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!


Run Newton, Run! Please Dog!


The bill is poorly written and will never pass the Senate. Instead of arguing about whether the Democrats are "For or Against" the bill, maybe you should read it and tell your congress person what you think. They work for US, not the other way around. One more major failure for the revolting Bushies.


Poor John D. Same old unsubstantiated charges, still living in the past. Can you say, "grasping at straws"?


Re:President Bush's proposal to re-introduce immigration legislation:

Comments by Republican senators on Thursday suggested that they were feeling the heat from conservative critics of the bill, who object to provisions offering legal status. The Republican whip, Trent Lott of Mississippi, who supports the bill, said: “Talk radio is running America. We have to deal with that problem.”

From NY Times and Washington Post articles.

Whinerdyce brothers, Crazy Joe Devolo, what say you?


Newt is right, we need to deport the terrorist John Dyslin now. Don't wait for another tragedy, this guy is a ticking time bomb. Speculation is that Crazy John's preferred method of destruction is an over-sized propane tank. Stop him before it's too late.


Respectfully Bill H.,

Why are you continuing to attack 1 person, when the obvious response to your personal attacks is back to Clinton.

If you want to say something without saying anything then you might try a little harder.

The heading is, "Gingrich in new anti-immigration bill ad".
The short article is about, "illegal immigration".

Haven't you figured it out yet that the opposition to this "immigration bill" isn't about money. It's about the rule of Law, and changing the face of America, your home.

Nobody is opposed to "immigration", most are against "illegal immigration".

There are plenty of blogs you can take cheap shots at anyone, including this one. But please read the "heading", first.


Interesting disconnect here. Some are engaged in rank partisanship (Bill H and C Perry), and only consider the political advantage to be gained by supporting or opposing the bill. Some (Frank) think that all who oppose the bill have one reason, and that reason is opposition to amnesty for illegals...period. Odd, that. I have heard any number of differing objections to the legislation, but the single recurring theme seems to be that conservatives know the Senators are lying. Put me in this box.

The Bush Admin refuses to this very instant to enforce the border, while assuring us that spending another $4.4 billion will magically change their posture. We have now endured 21 years of remarkably consistent inaction by the Feds on border enforcement. No words in the English language -- I don't speak Spanish yet -- could convince us that suddenly, by the power of this new bill, that's going to change. Why would it?

If they stop illegal immigration, in fact, then I believe most of the opposition to this bill, as it relates to those who are here illegally, will cease.

Frank, you are being disingenuous when you take the open borders position and claim all-knowing power for the opposition.


Nobody is opposed to "immigration", most are against "illegal immigration".

Posted by: PG | June 20, 2007 2:11 AM

Really PG, no one is opposed to immigration. Then why are towns passing English only laws?


Respectfully, "Then why are towns passing English only laws?" (above)

Thank you Jethro, for making my point about the continued invasion of "illegal aliens".


I believe in illegal immigration. It must be true, I read about it all the time. The debate, as far as I am concerned, should be limited to:
1 How does this situation impact our country.

To weigh in on the immigration debate Newt associated islamic terrorists with mexican gangs. Mr. Gingrich is serving us another plate of paper tiger. I think it is rather ironic that we are trying to stamp out terrorism across the globe but we still use it instinctively right here in the heart of freedomland, as a primary political tool, freely and without consequence, to the detriment of our own citizens. It seems our politicians are more interested in monopolizing terrorism than defeating it.

Now that we have found the link between mexico and terrorism maybe we should round up all the Mexicans and turn our closed military bases into modern day concentration camps.
I bet we would all feel safer if the guy picking our tomatos was within scope range of a tower gaurd.


Jethro,
Why are towns passing English only laws? It is not because they are anti-immigrant. It is a rebellion against the ideology that liberals have been pushing in recent years that says that immigrants have a right to continue to speak their native languages.

When my grandparents came over here, no one subscribed to a nonsensical idea like that. Immigrants were expected to learn English.


when we shut down illegal immigration because, hey, they have no right being here... does that mean we also shut down illegal cia activity in their countries of origin?

what i'm saying is, lets say we close down all illegal immigration, and guatemala decides it is in their best interest to move toward socialism...

we respect their sovereignty right?


But please read the "heading", first.

Posted by: PG | June 20, 2007 2:11 AM

Oh my pg, I didn't realize we are supposed to follow your rules when posting. I guess they only apply to posters who don't agree with you though.

As far as the heading, since it (as well as every paragraph of the article) contains newt's name, silly me for thinking newt might be part of the story.

Respectfully, you are a moron.


THEY ARE LEARNING ENGLISH!! you ignorant hateful bum...

I read an article a few months ago about some racist cracker-woman in the south went into a grocery store owned by a mexican family... they had a mexican flag hung up on the wall of the store...

this woman ripped the flag off the wall and took it out of the store!!

now, i'm from brooklyn, and pizza is one of my favorite foods (real pizza, not whitebread sauce and cheese)...

i've been in hundreds of pizza places, and have never seen one which didn't have an italian flag displayed somewhere... and god bless them for it, it's their heritage...

i'm trying to imagine some woman coming into one of those pizza places and tearing an italalian flag off the wall and throwing it outside...

can u say 'beating of a lifetime'?...

the kids are learning english in school... who do u think u are telling ppl what language they can speak in their own place of business...

the truth is u are nothing short of a racist, and this is one means u have of hurting ppl who haven't done anything to u... u are petty and vile...


S. Sherman,
Immigrants know that if you can't speak English you can't be successful in America. Having the government legislate what language you are allowed to speak and read is not freedom. It is the opposite. It is oppression, pure and simple. You folks have had courts tell you that you cannot discriminate and oppress because of race, relgion, or sex and now your last clinging hope to oppress some peoples is language. This has nothing to do with illegal immigration. Your friends and you hate Hispanics. You want to exclude them from American activities unless they speak and understand English as well as native born Americans. These are not so much English only laws as they are Anti-Hispanic laws.


It is a rebellion against the ideology that liberals have been pushing in recent years that says that immigrants have a right to continue to speak their native languages.
Posted by: S. Sherman | June 20, 2007 12:48 PM

sherm, you must be the grand kleagle of your klan. Now you don't even want people to be able to speak their native languages. I bet your grandparents would be very proud.


S. Sherman-

And when your grandparents came over they spoke perfect english on the day they stepped off the boat, right? They never again needed any word on any official document translated for them, right?

Oh, and by the way, every person has the right to speak in any language they so desire.


Seth loves to throw that racism card around. First of all Seth, those Italian flags in pizza restuarants, shoot most of em aren't even owned by Italians. It's symbol thing more than it is "Hey, I'm from Italy and love my country so I'm gonna put my flag in the restaurant."
Anyway, we don't have press 1 for Italian; we don't have any Italian language TV stations, much less two or three,; we don't have press 1 for Polish either, nor directions in Polish or Italian on most everything; the problem is too many are not learning English as they should because we are giving them more reasons not to learn English. THAT Seth is a problem, not racism!

By the way, Sethy, do you know what Mexico does to illegal aliens in that ocuntry?


Johnny D-

Your ignorance is showing again.

During the surge of Italian immigration at the start of the last century, before there were TV stations, most major cities had Italian langauge newspapers, along with German newspapers and a host of other non-english papers. Some still exist. If television had existed then, you can sure bet there would have been Italian TV stations, phone messages and instructions.

Ever been to Chinatown Johnny? Are you offended by all the signs in Chinese? Are you offended by the Chinese newspapers?


alright john d.-- that was mostly sane...

i'm not interested in mexico, i'm interested in the usa... we may not have press 1 for polish on the phone, but have uy ever been to an atm machine in brooklyn? or nyc? or anyother big city?

the atm machines near me offer damn near a dozen language choices...

chinese, korean, vietnamese, russian, polish, spanish, etc... the list goes on...

doesn't really bother me that we have evolved enough to help the 1st generation immigrants out... AGAIN, the kids are learning english as a primary language in school...

i mean maybe we should get rid of handicap toilets... screw 'em... we could fit 4 toilets in there instead of three... why should i have to wait in line longer just so 1 handicapped person can go without making a mess on themselves??

any immigrant has the right to speak whatever langauge they want... this is america... imho they would be stupid if they chose to go that route... but it is their choice...

if we had digital prepress abilities 100 years ago, they may have had forms in ellis island in a dozen different languages... they couldn't do it then, we can do it now...

and those pizza places, the ones i'm eating in are italian owned... and their flag represents their pride in their heritage. period.

u can cut it anyway u want, that sick woman who ripped a mexican flag off the wall of that store is a low-life... hateful, and yes racist...


My goodness. Such a display of hatred for our Mexican neighbors. The right wingers here won't admit that their objection to these illegals is that they are short,dark and needed as an exploited servant class. If we make them citizens they will want better jobs and then who will pluck the chickens,or how much will we have to pay to get the chickens plucked.


"Respectfully, you are a moron." (above)

Well thank you Bill H, when people don't have anything to say they usually resort to name calling.

If you decide to read what I had said, instead of cherry picking a couple of words.... well, hey, I'll take it. And you were doing so well up until the moron thing. LOL

But I can promise you one thing.
I'll read the Headline, then the article and then I'll consider responding to the article. And because we do have all sorts of views on all sorts of subjects, I'll respond to the "Comments".

Even if they have nothing to do with the blog.

Thank you Bill H.
You have a nice day.


Nice job fact-checking the assertions in the ad. Atta and many of his crew had been admitted LEGALLY.


It is a rebellion against the ideology that liberals have been pushing in recent years that says that immigrants have a right to continue to speak their native languages.

Posted by: S. Sherman | June 20, 2007 12:48 PM

Those whacky liberals! Pushing the crazy idea that Americans should have the right to free speech.

What's next? The right to a fair trial & due process? Pshhhh!

Where do these liberals come up with this stuff?!


Conservatives are wrong about EVERYTHING... without a single exception...

OK, maybe one... they are right about the 2nd ammendment... BUT, then again, ironically, the right wingers are taking the liberal, ie. open reading of the 2nd...

So, actually since conservatives are taking a genuinly liberal position on the 2nd, and that is the one issue on which they have reason, I', back at my original assertion...

Conservative ideology is wrong on every issue... not many, not most-- EVERY SINGLE ONE...


Frank, what is a "landcaping" company?

And do you have spell check at the Tribune?

Posted by: Bruce | June 19, 2007 5:55 PM

Bruce, (a.k.a., former leftist, jfk democrat, and whinerdyce).

Did you get beat up in school a lot for whining to the teacher and snitching on your classmates?


By the way, Sethy, do you know what Mexico does to illegal aliens in that ocuntry?

Posted by: John D | June 20, 2007 2:07 PM

Why did the Swamp editors not censure your filthy language?


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