White House: No 'blood-letting' on climate change: The Swamp
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Posted June 6, 2007 4:27 AM
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Posted by Mark Silva

ROSTOCK, Germany – Don't look for any hard specifics in the 15-page agreement on climate change and environmental issues coming out of the Group of Eight summit this week.

Angela Merkel, German chancellor and host of the G-8 summit at a seaside resort on the Baltic Sea, hoped to forge a hard agreement on combating global warming among the leaders of the eight major industrial nations: Holding any increase in global temperature to 2 degrees Centigrade, increasing energy efficiency 20 percent by 2020 and halving emissions of greenhouse gases by 2050.

But President Bush, unalterably opposed to a "one-size fits-all'' agreement this week, refuses to accept hard numbers in Heiligendamm.. Instead, he is calling on the G-8 and several other greenhouse gas-emitters, such as China and India, to join in a discussion down the road with hopes of achieving a "global goal'' for reduction of greenhouse gases by the end of next year.

Despite all the focus placed on this conflict between the hard-charging summit host and a long-reluctant player in the global warming debate, the White House insists the debate behind the scenes is bloodless.

"I do not anticipate any letting of blood in this conversation,'' said Jim Connaughton, chairman of the president's Council on Environmental Quality. "The fixation with one proposal on one target has fascinated me,'' he said to repeated questions about why the U.S. won't accede to specifics."I would encourage you to move beyond your fixation with one target and one particular goal,'' he told a German asking why the U.S. can't agree with a German leader who has befriended Bush. "In America we have the expression -- losing the forest for one tree.''

The document that will come out of this summit "reflects a remarkable consensus,'' the White House's point man on the environment said in Rostock this morning. "This is a bundle.''

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The Kempinski Grand Hotel, on the Baltic Sea at Heiligendamm, where the leaders of the G-8 are staying for a three-day summit. This and other photos by Mark Silva

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Rostock.

Much of the world's press, and most of the global summit's protesters, are holed up this week in Rostock, a thriving river port center of the former East Germany, with the leaders of the G-8 staying several miles away at a palatial coastal resort. Bush will meet Merkel for lunch today in Heiligendamm, and they will join the rest of the leaders – from the United Kingdom, France, Italy, Russia, Japan and Canada – at a late dinner this evening at the Hohen Luckow Estate Manor House in, where else, Hohen Luckow.

And – outside of the escalating debate over missile defenses that Bush has stirred with Russian President Vladimir Putin -- much of the press attention has been focused on a G-8 strategy for confronting climate change. Bush effectively undercut this summit by last week coming out with his own plan for a global summit involving more players – some 15 major emitters of greenhouse gas – and reaching a worldwide goal for reducing emissions, with specific national strategies for achieving that goal, by the end of 2008.

The Bush administration insists that this summit will produce a substantive document that represents a remarkable commitment to address these problems – if short of the specifics that Merkel wanted here.

"There will be an agreement,'' Connaughton said. "There will be an agreed G-8 text at this meeting. There is a huge amount of work that remains to be done that will fill out the details of the commitments the G-8 leaders have agreed to… We are now talking about the next step of developing metrics.''

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Jim Connaughton, chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality, says the administration will not accept a "one-size fits-all'' statement on climate change this week.

In "the climate agenda,'' Connaughton said, "the president has placed a very strong emphasis on global development, particularly on lifting people out of poverty. As we look at the climate agenda, we look at it in that context.'' This, he said, means ensuring that there is "a diverse supply of energy.''

"That's how we look at the issue of climate change,'' he said with a nod to the summit's host. "Under the leadership of Chancellor Merkel, you're going to see a very strong commitment on the part of all the G-8 leaders… on the next step forward…. I think you're going to see a strong commitment by these leaders to a process for establishing a long term goal, a commitment, to reduction of greenhouse gases.''

Each of the nations involved already has "a portfolio of initiatives,'' he said. "We have a very firm foundation for what can be achieved….The president has proposed and called on all nations to see, in the next 18 months, if we can define national strategies.''

The White House denies the accusation that Bush is slowing down progress on an international deal.

"Actually what we are doing is we are making a commitment to an accelerated process,'' Connaughton said. "You have the G-8 leaders who are firmly agreed to most of the elements laid out here… where there is disagreement is one or two of the metrics…. It is a gross distortion to represent that there is major (dispute here). You have agreement between the US and European Union that we need to come up with a common standard…. I could spend 20 minutes talking about this issue of'' consensus
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"There is no one size fits all to this,'' he said. "What we have opposed is the 2 degree temperature target. We are not alone in that… most countries, Russia, Canada, that I have spoken with do not accept that.''

And, on the question of those 20 percent and 50 percent goals?

"We are going to commit within the next 18 months to reach commitment on a long-term global goal,'' he said. "We have not sat down with China, India, Brazil and Africa… until we have everyone in the room and until we have a consensus among all of them, you wont see a collective goal on all of that… but it's coming.

At the same time, he said, the U.S. has not ruled out the 50 percent by 2050 goal.

"I have not indicated either opposition or support to that,'' Connaughton said. "At this time we are not prepared to adopt that proposal… We have to get all the ideas on the table and come up with a positive position… We've been consistent stating that for four months… That was our position going in.''

"On that one particular issue, we do not have agreement… From the U.S. perspective, we want agreement… we want it in 18 months,'' he said, effectively asking everyone to stay tuned. "It's critical that we find an approach that works for everybody. The United States can cap its emissions, with Europe, but if other countries aren’t part of that,'' manufacturing and trade will move to other countries, and there will be an increase in emissions, worsening the problem. "If we do not come up with a shared vision,'' he said, "all we're going to be doing is moving greenhouse gases around the world, rather than reducing them.''

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Rostock -- a river runs through it.

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"In America we have the expression -- losing the forest for one tree.''

There are a few other American sayings that remind one of the Dubya and Darth Administration:

In the game without a mitt.
F'ed up as a football bat.
A couple of sammiches short of a picnic.


Bush has doomed this before it began. Why don't they get corporate sponsors for this gathering and at least save us all the unnecessary expense?


Two of the biggest polluters and energy users in the world, China and India, are exempt from global warming treaties. If this planet is on the brink of disaster, then shouldn't ALL countries and participants be involved?

And the average Joe and Jane can do their thing to help the environment too. For instance, since John E resides in his parent's basement and has no job, he shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. With the computer on it uses electricity. So, if folks like John E. Doogie Zook, Mrs. Jesus and the rest, didn't use the energy that is unnecessary, utility emissions get cut and the planet is better off. And the planet gets the added benefit of a quiet John E. and his friends.


John D,

The biggest polluter of all is the USA, and Bush has gone out of his way to roll back progress on the environment. The Supreme Court had to rule that the EPA should do its job, for one recent example. He has no credibility on the subject at a time when the US should be a shining example to countries like China and India. Far too late to spin W's horrible legacy...


Kenny Bunkport:

Can't China and India practive sound environmental policy on their own, without us showing them how to do it?

And, by the way, the U.S. environment has not been deteriorating under Bush. In fact, the U.S. continues to clean up its act. While Europe loves to harp on its environmentalism, please explain why so many rivers and lakes in Europe are in such dire straits?


John D,

A. apparently not;
B. many of Europe's rivers flow through former Iron Curtain countries, not generally known for their forward thinking. That is changing with the new Europe and EU and as deteriorating infrastructures (sewers, water treatment facilities, etc) get updated.


John D.,

Have you had a recent head injury?


John,

I wasn't going to post on this, but since you attacked me.... The US is the biggest polluter in the world and does nothing about it. Bush refused to sign onto the Kyoto Treaty, making the US the only major industrialized nation to do so. He gave a $25,000 tax break to those who drive gas guzzling SUVs. He refuses to lower emissions standards on US vehicles or fossil fuel burning energy plants. He puts on a pair of earth shoes and gets his picture taken in front of a tree and calls himself an environmentalist. He is firmly in the pockets of the oil companies. John, you want to reduce pollution? (Not that I honestly believe you care), Close your mouth. Your hot air is contributing to global warming.


Ah, I love the "intelligent" commentary from the Loony Left. Kenny Bunkport, I'll at least give you some credit here for engaging in debate. You are correct that much of the European pollution came from Iron Curtain countries (and I hope with this recognition it means you also realize that a Sovietized Russia under Putin is a danger and not a good thing). It's the same in China. China has a terrible pollution record, safety record, etc. That is my point. These countries should not be exempt, they should be in the same boat as us - not just for the sake of the planet, but also for the sake of our own manufacturing and jobs situation.

But then Doogie Zook comes up with asking me if I had a recent head injury!

Kenny Bunkport at least good here.
Doogie Zook entering John E territory.


Yeah. China and India are big poluters. That's probably why U.S. corporations get tax credits for outsourcing jobs to them. The labor is cheap and they have no environmental guidelines. GO U.S.A.


John D.,

Got Head On?


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