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Bush, Brown: U.S. and U.K., same values, goals

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Posted July 30, 2007 1:19 PM
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by Mark Silva

President Bush and newly seated British Prime Minister Gordon Brown strove to present an unwavering common front today, amid growing pressure at home for both leaders to find a way out of the war in Iraq.

“There's no doubt in my mind that Gordon Brown understands that failure in Iraq would be a disaster for the security of our own countries,’’ Bush said today, following a series of meetings at Camp David. “There's no doubt in my mind, he understands the stakes of the struggle.’’

“We are at one in fighting the battle against terrorism,’’ said Brown, standing alongside Bush in the British leader’s first visit to the United States as prime minister, “and that struggle is one that we will fight with determination and with resilience and right across the world. ‘’

Since the start of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, Great Britain has been the staunchest ally of the U.S. Yet that alliance had taken a political toll on Brown’s predecessor, former Prime Minister Tony Blair.

As the British military scales back forces in Iraq, in the midst of a surge in U.S. forces, Brown suggests that the U.S. and Great Britain face a common challenge in handing full control of security to Iraqi forces. This is something that British forces already have achieved in three of the four Iraqi provinces under their supervision, Brown said – moving from “combat to overwatch’’ – and they hope to achieve the same in the fourth as well.

The strategic relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom is unshaken, both leaders said today – with each calling the other nation the most important partner in bilateral relations.

“Call it the special relationship, call it, as Churchill did, the joint inheritance,’’ Brown said, standing with a lawn at Camp David as backdrop for a press conference. “The strength of this relationship is not just built on the shared problems we face, but is also built, as President Bush has said, on joint values... I do see this relationship strengthening in the years to come.’’


Bush, asked if Great Britain’s alliance is as important to the U.S. as American support is to the British, said: “I would say that the relationship between Great Britain and America is our most important bilateral relationship… Great Britain has been attacked, we’ve been attacked. We have important inteerests throughout the world.’’

The personal relationship that might be forged between these two leaders, at the start of Brown’s rule and near the end of Bush’s, is another question. Bush and Blair had established a close and warm relationship. And Bush appeared eager to dispel any suggestions about differences in style with a new British leader whom some have termed “a dour Scotsman.’’

“He is not the dour Scotsman that you described,’’ Bush said of Brown, following a breakfast meeting, dinner the night before and a long meeting in which the two had dispatched their aides to the bowling alley at Camp David. “He is actually the humorous Scotsman… I was impressed, and I am confident that we will be able to keep our relationship strong, constant and vibrant… He’s a glass-half-full man, not a glass-half-empty guy.

“So, everybody’s wondering whether or not the prime minister and I were able to find common ground, to get along, to have a meaningful discussion,’’ Bush said at the start, “and the answer is absolutely…He probably wasn’t too sure what to expect from me, and I kind of had a sense of the kind of person I’d be dealing with. I’d kind of describe Gordon Brown as a principled man who really wants to get something done.

“We had a really casual and good discussion,’’ said Bush.

“We have had full and frank discussions,’’ said Brown, invoking diplomatic terms that can often understate any tensions in the talks, and thanking Bush for a chance to “to discuss, person to person, some of the great issues of our time.’’

This included much more than the war in Iraq. It also included the question of climate change, Brown noted, an issue which European leaders have pressed with more urgency than the Bush administration.

At Bush’s urging, the most recent summit of the G-8 industrial nations, which includes Great Britain, produced a commitment to staging an international summit by the end of next year to agree on common goals for fighting global warming – still leaving each nation to its own strategy for carrying out those goals. This framework is different from the hard standards for reduction of carbon emissions which European leaders have sought.

But, most of all, perhaps as a way of paving over their many differences of detail on this and other policy questions, the two leaders stressed the common “values’’ which the U.S. and U.K. share.

“The historic partnership of shared interests between our two countries (is) driven forward by our shared values,’’ said Brown, citing Churchill’s words about a “ joint inheritance of liberty... and dignity for all,’’ These interests include the prevention of nuclear proliferation, climate change, peace in the Middle East and fighting poverty and terrorism.

“Terrorism is not a cause. It is a crime against humanity… and there should be no haven, no safe hiding place,’’ said Brown, stating that, in Iraq, the British have “have duties to discharge… Our aim, like the United States, is step by step, to move control to the Iraqi authorities…

“We have moved from combat to overwatch’’ in three of the four provinces that the British oversee in the South, around Basra, he said. “Our aim… is security for the Iraqi people, political reconcilation and that the Iraqi people have a stake in the future.’’

In the case of Iran’s nuclear ambitions, Brown said, he British support the U.S. concern for ensuring that international sanctions are working and toughening those sanctions. In Afghanistan, he said, the British are committed to providing troops where necessary.

Asked about mistakes made in Iraq and what can be done to fix them, Brown spoke instead of challenges: “I think the difficulties include getting poltiical reconciliation within Iraq itself, moving forward with the reconstruction and the time it has taken to do so…

“It’s in that context where we can do what we want to, which is to pass security over to the Iraqis themselves,’’ he said.

Bush, facing growing pressure from Democratic leaders and some within his own party to change course in Iraq, asked again today for patience with a progress report that Gen. David Petraeus will deliver in September. He said that the U.S. shares the same goal which Brown has stated in seeking to move from combat to overwatch in all of the provinces.

“That's what we want to do,’’ Bush said. “We want to be able to be in a position where we can achieve results on the ground so that we can be in a different posture.’’

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They both value raping the working class and the environment??


"Same values". . .I think the United Kingdom has just been insulted.


Ah Janitor Joe, er John E., the only raping going on of the working class and environment is being done by those on the Left. China? Worst raper of people and the environment. India? Ditto. Venezuala and Chavez: Huge rapers of working people and the environment. Russia? Continues to rape its citizens and be bad environmental caretakers. Al Gore? Yep. John Edwards? Yep. Hollywoood parasites? You betcha!


Obviously, John D is an extremely uninformed "individual" who has probably never stepped foot outside the US, much less lived abroad - which is why his views are so simplistic & warped.

Only an ignoramus thinks that China, India, and Russia are "Left" countries. Their governments are all now pro-free market & pro-capitalist... not socialist. They are pro-corporate, not pro-labor. That's why you can buy cheap goods made in Chinese sweatshop factories. Also why there are 900 McDonalds stores & 400 Starbucks in China, with both companies focusing on China as their main market outside the US.

If anything, American free-market capitalism is causing these countries to pillage their resource base & pollute their environment - anything to make a buck or enjoy American standards of living. Nearly everybody in the US who can afford one has a car - so now 1 billion in China want one, too. What a fine example we have set.

Exploitation of the working class & the environment occurs in the majority of the world - but more so by pro-capitalist, right-leaning, anti-social welfare governments. Unregulated free market capitalism considers everything a profit opportunity that should be exploited - a tree, a river, a cow, a field of oil, or even a person's labor. Under capitalism, everything has its price, and everything can be bought or sold on the so-called free market. Including human labor.

If you can't sell yourself, then you're too lazy or too stupid, so too bad. It's survival of the fittest, so starve & drop dead if you can't survive, as heartless people like John D probably think. Social welfare, high quality public education, universal healthcare, equitable redistribution of wealth? Such "radical" ideas violate John D's law of the Darwinistic jungle - every man for himself. Which is essentially what all right-wing economic & foreign policy is based on.

All this so that you can have your precious "American Way of Life" for your "pursuit of happiness."

So who actually supports exploiting the working class & the environment???

Ignorant people like John D. And anybody who listens to John D is equally ignorant.


Well, Gordon Brown is starting to sound like even more of a hawk than predecessor Blair, whose extreme enthusiasm for the war in Iraq and for President Bush may have led to his leaving his job a little sooner than he wanted to, and without a lot of people begging him to stay.

President Bush, meanwhile,
needs a couple of countries to stay with him until 1/09. Looks like, come what may, Brown and the Brits will be one of them.


Brown will be a better Prime Minister than Blair most certainly. The Brits will be withdrawing all of their forces from Iraq within the next 6 months. Only the U.S. forces will remain, continuing the illegal occupation.
And again, this Mr. Bush sounds and acts like a first class fool. Just watch him and listen to his yackety yack.
And John D. you are an irrational individual who makes no sense. You are like an immature errant child. I say keep on driving yourfully equipped Nissan Murano in circles, ad infinitum.


Evanel,

Obviouslyk you are clueless. China, India and Russia are all left, with China and Russia communist regimes. Both are only embracing capitalism as a means to support the communism, but the businesses (especially in China) are nationalized, government-run.

While the Soviet Union existed and all businesses were of the State, pollution in eastern Europe and the Soviet satellite countries was rampant. In China today, taking a walk in Shanhai means blowing the soot off your clothes when you walk in. Sorry, to break that news to you, but my neice and nephew-in-law currently reside in Shanhai.
There is not communist country I know of that practices any kind of care for its workers and the health of the country.


I am a regular reader of your article. And I am very impress with your blog upon Global Warming. Now I am also write a blog upon Global Warming. This blog is collection of news & reviews like the study found that global warming since 1985 has been caused neither by an increase in solar radiation nor by a decrease in the flux of galactic cosmic rays. Some researchers had also suggested that the latter might influence global warming because the rays trigger cloud formation.


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