by David Lightman of the Hartford Courant
Joe Lieberman offered his own take on the Senate's planned all-nighter on Iraq.
"To me," said the Connecticut senator, "the sad truth is that too many of my colleagues in the chambers are already asleep on this issue."
Lieberman, an independent Democrat, appeared at an afternoon press conference alongside Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, Arizona Sen. John McCain and other Republican leaders to criticize the Democrats' plan to keep talking throughout the night about Iraq.
The Democrats want a timeline for withdrawing most U.S. troops; tha plan, said Lieberman would "essentially legislate defeat."
He urged colleagues to reject such initiatives, saying they're very much what the enemy would want.
"The American military will never lose the war in Iraq," he said. "The war in Iraq will only be lost if we lose our political will."







Comments
Lieberman is no longer a Democrat, so his identification as an "independent Democrat" is incorrect. He defeated the Democratic candidate to win his Senate seat. He is officially a member of the "Connecticut for Lieberman" party, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: partyofone | July 17, 2007 5:42 PM
Lieberman, the only sane and worthwhile Democrat left in the Senate. Ooops, he now is an independent because the one-note, haters-of-life and freedom Loony Left kicked him out of the party.
Posted by: John D | July 17, 2007 5:48 PM
Were it not for handing control of the Senate over to Republicans I'd like to give Lieberman the heave ho. Right off the end of the pier Joe - go swim!
Of course our military cannot lose the occupation. We are the baddest mothers in Mesopotamia, but that's not the measure of success. The rub here is there is no such thing as winning an occupation either.
The solution in Iraq is political and it's not happening.
Posted by: Doug Zook | July 17, 2007 5:50 PM
"The American military will never lose the war in Iraq," he said. "The war in Iraq will only be lost if we lose our political will."
Umm please Senator Lieberman, do explain the what the undefeatable US military was doing from 2003 until 2007, you know, the period of time when conditions in Iraq deteriorated into civil war and chaos. Was that victory? Did we not have out "political will" then?
How will our "political will" bring about a military solution to an internal Iraqi political problem?
Posted by: Anonymous | July 17, 2007 6:05 PM
He calls out his colleagues for being asleep on the issue yet continues to beat the war drum to the minority of dimwits (see above) that still buy into a completely failed policy in Iraq. Then he finishes with a tired bumper sticker retread on losing our political will. Just go away.
Posted by: Bubba | July 17, 2007 6:24 PM
Lieberman, the only sane and worthwhile Democrat left in the Senate.
Posted by John D July 17, 2007 5:48 PM
Biff,
I hope your buddy Joe LIEberman goes ahead and joins up with the chickenhawk Republican Party fulltime.
Turncoat Joe will never get re-elected as a Wingnut in Conn and he knows it.
It's to bad that this pathetic excuse for a human being (Lieberman) has placed his love for Israel above his love for the American people.
Posted by: John E | July 17, 2007 6:31 PM
Johnny-D-ingbat,
Do you ever deviate from the RNC Party Line with the same name calling post after post? You're even more tiresome that than other wingnut, Bruce, which is quite an accomplishment!
Posted by: Neal | July 17, 2007 6:45 PM
Joe must go !!!!!!
Posted by: bill r. | July 17, 2007 6:50 PM
Lieberman, the only sane and worthwhile Democrat left in the Senate. Ooops, he now is an independent because the one-note, haters-of-life and freedom Loony Left kicked him out of the party.
Posted by: John D | July 17, 2007 5:48 PM
You moron. Lieberman is a pro-choice baby-killer too, lest we forget.
Posted by: jim | July 17, 2007 7:08 PM
You say "freedom Loony Left," I say "Connecticut voters," potato, pot-au-toe...
Posted by: John D is a Republican | July 17, 2007 7:13 PM
Lieberman is an absolute joke. Please resign, Vitter, so we can take your seat and throw Joe to the Republicans for good. I personally am embarrassed by having him as part of my "bloc."
Posted by: John E | July 17, 2007 7:29 PM
Great. Let the Democrats keep kicking Joe Lieberman until he gets so fed up he restores some sanity to the Senate. Please.
Posted by: Sierra | July 17, 2007 8:19 PM
Of course Holy Joe and the Repukes wouldn't have to go through the terribly sorry fate of being tired if they would stop filibustering the bill and give it an up or down vote.
How about it Republicans? Do you want an up or down vote? Yes or no? This is your filibuster don't forget.
Posted by: weinerdog43 | July 17, 2007 8:22 PM
Joe Lieberman is a smart Senator he loves America and he knows it he has been Shanghied by Dick Durbin, Chuckie Schumer, Harry Reid,Nancy Pelosi,Dennis Kucinich if he even matters to become an advocate of a socialist republic with Teddy Kennedy . We need leaders not schemers and Durbin, Reid, and Schumer are schmers and Lieberman is a leader you stupid Dems don't know what you have in Lieberman. Jerry White, Springfield, IL P.S. Knowing Durbin he will try to impeach Joe what a winner you guys have to look forward to--hello wakeup Joe knows war,Israel and the stakes we are dealing with the others are stupid liberals. Jerry White Springfield, IL
Posted by: Jerry White | July 17, 2007 8:50 PM
"The American military will never lose the war in Iraq," he said.
'course we'll never win either, but I guess you gotta take the bad with the good, eh Senator Lieberman?
Posted by: David Flores | July 17, 2007 9:20 PM
"The American military will never lose the war in Iraq" Where have all you wing nuts been? Do you know that the American military has been getting beaten for four and a half years.
Our Generals have gone along with the same losing tactics for all of this time. Our Generals only object when safely retired. General Petraeus has been an overt Bush supporter and will report as directed in September.
Posted by: c. perry | July 17, 2007 9:55 PM
That's really intelligent commentary Jerry White of Springfield, Illinois. I SERIOUSLY hope you were drunk when you wrote that riduculous and ignorant "comment."
Posted by: Alex | July 17, 2007 10:05 PM
Joe Lieberman is a smart Senator.
Posted by Jerry White July 17, 2007 PM
Huh?
Are they shutting off the oxygen down in Springfield or is it just you, Jerry?
Posted by: John E | July 17, 2007 10:22 PM
Lieberman an "Independent Democrat"?
As I recall, he ran on the "Connecticut for Lieberman" ticket, which would make Lieberman an 'Independent Lieberman', answerable only to, and sworn to uphold the interests of, Lieberman.
A party of one, indeed!
Posted by: Radian | July 17, 2007 10:26 PM
Joey is an Independent, not a dem. His first loyalty is to Israel, not to the United States. A heavy majority of authentic dems despise the political cover he gives bushcheneyrove. Please do not associate this traitor with the Democratic Party in the future.
Posted by: badgervan | July 17, 2007 10:45 PM
Yes, because we all know Mitch McConnell is the exemplar of leadership.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 17, 2007 10:53 PM
Joe is such a sad sack. He is Eyore. A better friend Revelations never had.
Posted by: Bob H | July 17, 2007 11:03 PM
weinerdog43:
I suppose it takes a certain level of genius to stand outside of yourself to see how others see you. This is a gift that you obviously don’t have. So, let me draw you a picture.
It took a lot of self-righteousness and condescension on your part to make a statement in which Republicans are described as “Repukes,” and then to follow it up with questions directed at “Republicans.” The first part of your statement already tells them that you hold them in contempt and don’t care what they think.
So, did you really ask these questions in the expectation that someone would brave your insults to answer them? Or was this just a rhetorical flourish on your part?
Posted by: John W. | July 17, 2007 11:32 PM
Hmmm, Neal knocks me for name calling. Course, calling the Far Left Loony is about the extent of the name calling. Yet, Neal has Johnny Dingbat and wingnut all in the same. We have deranged John E. calle me Biff now! Oooooh, Mark Silva, is that the kind of maturity and adult debate you're looking for?
Another Loony Lefty posts as John D is a Republican! Wow, you really got me on me that one!
And, Jim, yes I know Lieberman is pro-choice and you know what? I've voted for pro-choice candidates!!!
I'm wondering, did you Loons get your education and debate skills in day care but never got past day care?
Posted by: John D | July 17, 2007 11:35 PM
Joe, just go away! Live somewhere, anywhere but the US.
Military families feel like you really hate us!
Posted by: mstfd | July 18, 2007 1:14 AM
Jerry,
Lieberman was shanghaied by Durbin, Schumer, et al? Holy Joe lost his primary as a Democrat and decided to "shanghai" the Democratic ticket by running as an Independant. As for loving America, it looks like Joe loves Israel more than he loves America and its troops. I think he's forgotten that he is a Senator of the UNITED STATES Senate, not the Israeli Parliament. Can you explain to me what you think Joe knows about war? I'd try to figure out the rest of your sentence but it was incoherent drivel.
Posted by: BroadwayCarl | July 18, 2007 1:43 AM
Joe what a winner you guys have to look forward to--hello wakeup Joe knows war,Israel and the stakes we are dealing with the others are stupid liberals. Jerry White Springfield, IL
Posted by: Jerry White | July 17, 2007 8:50 PM
The Dems got disgusted with Lieberman when he continued to support Bush and Cheney's war. You can have him. The Repubs are up for re-election in 21 Senate seats. Several of these are vulnerable. There's no way the American people are going to continue to support this deception. This is not what Lincoln had in mind.
Posted by: Mrs. Jesus | July 18, 2007 2:45 AM
Way to go, Connecticut. If you're going to take somebody out, then take them out. Don't make them the most powerful man in the Senate.
Posted by: Jeff | July 18, 2007 6:45 AM
Wouldn't it be fun if The Swamp blog had existed back in 2000?
Because then we'd be able to access archives about what all these new Lieberman fans had to say about Joe when was Dveep candidate.
You go with the archives you have, not the ones you want.
Posted by: Doug Zook | July 18, 2007 7:08 AM
Poor Joe, he just doesn't get it at this late date. 5 years into this disaster and he still wants young Americans to die in the armageddon that Bush created in the name of American citizens. Joe Lieberman, you are asleep and always have been on this issue.
Posted by: GW | July 18, 2007 7:18 AM
The decision to invade Iraq was not in the best interests of America or Israel.
In the lead up to the invasion, all the discussion was about whether or not it could be "justified" legally & morally.
There was hardly a word about whether or not it was a good practical idea. It was, in fact, a monumentally stupid idea. Those who cheered it on, like Joe, now expect us to listen to their sagacious wisdom concerning the continuing occupation. Pardon us if we don't!
Posted by: Joe Runciter | July 18, 2007 9:35 AM
Well, John W., suppose you simply answer the question instead of bloviate? Up or down? Yes or no?
Posted by: weinerdog43 | July 18, 2007 9:42 AM
I'm continually amazed and amused by the sheer level of stupidity Republicans demonstrate at every possible opportunity. I stumble across this blog, read the comments and as sure as the sun rises every morning the ones that contain only incoherence combined with the usual poor syntax, ad hominam attacks and a profound ignorance of fact are written by Repubs. Keep up the "good" work folks and remember, we're laughing AT you, not with you.
Posted by: sshan25 | July 18, 2007 10:08 AM
Doug, in reference to 2000, certainly I was for Bush-Cheney and not Gore-Lieberman. Aside from that, and even though on most issues then and most issues today I don't agree with Lieberman, I still respected him. It was unfortunate that he was saddled with a sadsack like Gore, but Lieberman always has been a classy politician.
How is that?
Posted by: John D | July 18, 2007 10:32 AM
I think the Senate needs to schedule another all nighter to discuss the real central front in the war on terror. I think they need to discuss why the Bush administration has elected to allow Al Qaeda to set up a new safe haven in Pakistan. I think they need to discuss transfering troops from Iraq to Afghanistan in order to eliminate this very real threat.
They need to debate why the Bush administration has cut and run from the war on the real enemy- Al Qaeda.
Posted by: Tony | July 18, 2007 10:44 AM
John D.,
Al "sadsack" Gore won the popular vote in 2000 and prior to Gore picking Lieberman even wonks like me had hardly ever heard of the guy.
Joe Lieberman is a gadfly.
Posted by: Doug Zook | July 18, 2007 11:06 AM
Well, Doug, I had heard of Lierberman and knew him fairly well. He also was one of the first Senate Democrats to criticize Clinton for his actions.
As far as Gore, well he may have won more votes, but he did not win the electoral college, which has happened before. But if he was only able to win his own state, then this country would have been saddled with his inabilities for four years anyway.
Joe Lieberman is not a gadfly. He was a popular senator in the Democratic party and popular in the northeast, which is one of the reasons Gore selected him. He also is a classy guy.
Remove yourself from the far left blogs and media, and maybe you will see that.
Posted by: John D | July 18, 2007 1:01 PM
Thank God, the Connecticut Democrats gave Lieberman his walking papers. He became nothing more than a lackey for Bush and his group, and the pseudo-American liaison between the Bush administration and Israel. His cousins in Israel would be very proud of him.
Posted by: the truth | July 18, 2007 4:47 PM
sshan25:
It's "ad hominem," you blowhard.
Doesn't this make you a Republican now?
Posted by: John W. | July 18, 2007 5:39 PM
weinerdog43:
Now that you've chosen to refrain from being an insulting little cuss, I will answer your question.
Yes, I wish they would have had an up and down vote.
Because they didn't get an up and down vote, Harry Reid and his Democrat buddies can go around playing victim to those mean, awful Republicans, and Bushie in particular. They will get some political capital, which is all they really wanted anyway.
And, once the Democrats in the House of Representatives grow whatever organs it takes to act with courage, they will end the war.
It's all that simple.
Posted by: John W. | July 18, 2007 6:13 PM