Obama slams 'over and over again' failures of DC

Sounds reasonable to me....

Noting reports that Saudi Arabia has helped to fund Sunni insurgents in Iraq, Obama said, "They're supposed to be our allies. We should have some frank discussion."

Bush was more concerned with how the Saudis could benefit The Carlyle Group than he was the Saudi financing of Islamic extremist.

This guy is about 4 years old. Typical Democrat. Thank God he has zero chance of election.

Baracky,
Ummmm,I hate to break this to you,but we did try talking to Iraq,infact the whole world did too.
Starting with U.N. resolution UNSCR-678 on Nov.19,1990...and then there were 15 others Saddam "Hussein" ignored.
But then again,you were talking to 100 dopey democrats and they'll believe in anything you say...even if it's a flat out lie.

Paulo

Obama makes interesting points. If Mrs. Clinton were in the West Wing and with Bill in the East Wing, it could be Monica de ja vue, the FBI files scandal, the Chinese campaign contributions, the Travel Office firings, and the military diminution all over again. Obama has a fresh face and fresh ideas. And he doesn't seem to need $400 haircuts.

I'm a Edwards supporter, but on this one...Go Barack, Go!

W. and Cheney don't want to catch Osama Bin Laden for two reasons:

1) Bin Laden provides them with a "Boogey Man" to scare the little Republicans into volunteering to give up their Constitutional rights under the guise of "Patriotism".

2) Bin Laden is a Saudi and W. and little Dicky don't want to embarrass their oil buddies.

"Obama said he found the response to his debate comments 'interesting,' saying that 'people kind of scratched their heads because it wasn't what they were accustomed to hearing.'

That's for sure. Revolutionary, maybe. Incredibly dumb, certainly. I was scratching my head alright: wondering whether he was a liar or a bonehead. I assumed he was lying and that he was attempting to pander to the "we're all just one big happy planet crowd". I could not fathom that he actually meant that without condition -- and laying the diplomatic foundation is a precondition as much as he might try to triangulate away from it now -- he would meet with these rogues. He was just trying the same old "new kind of politics" bs he spouts but doesn't believe.

Now Hillary is tripping him up in his lie by going at the inexperience angle. He can't now say he meant what Hillary said, that diplomacy will lead the way, because we will call him out for being disingenious in his debate answer.

I agree with Obama, and I would be very surprised if most Americans do not in this instance. Furthermore,anyone who has read much about Obama knows one of his strengths is negotiating differences.

Trying to talk Islamic terrorists into stopping their attacks is an example of the stupid things politicians do over and over and over again.

And Obama is the poster boy for that piece of stupidity.

The mistake was electing Obama to the senate. Voters should not make that same mistake again.

Typical Democrat? Zero chance of election?
Pay attention Jon as the American people, the voters. are sick and tired of Repubs politics as usual and pandering to the Saudis.

Barack obama - Copacabana! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYJbKZlwM5s

Posted by: Biggdawg | July 27, 2007 10:16 PM

I guess if you go by negotiating and statesmanship skills, anything would be better than what we've had.

Many of the top generals and civilian leaders of this country have advocated dialogue with Syria, Iraq, and North Korea. Colin Powell is one, and General Clark is another. They are two of the wisest men in America espousing a very wise position, that Obama shares. Look Hillary/Bill's response... I don't want to be used for propaganda. A wise leader would use the opportunity to gain their own propaganda. Nothing would be better for America's image among citizens of those rogue countries to see an American president being positive and expressing a world view that embraces them more than their own leaders. To me Obama is expressing the smart view of foreign policy, a proactive stance that is a win, win situation. The American president is the best good will ambassador this country has. An American president who reaches the hearts of citizens of another country does far more for peace than saber rattling. Hillary/Bill is afraid of being used. Is America a nation with leaders who are afraid to talk. We have a guy in the White House now who is afraid to talk and cannot talk. The only nation that has warm fuzzies for Bush is Albania. The others have been lost. Please Mr. Obama when you become president talk to the people of North Korea, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, and Cuba. Show them that you are bigger than their leaders, wiser, and not afraid. Be an example for them that no American president has ever been.

I was scratching my head alright: wondering whether he was a liar or a bonehead.

Posted by: Biggdawg | July 27, 2007 10:16 PM

Answer: Some from column A, Some from column B

"...blaming unspecified Washington 'pundits'..."

- R. Pearson

Not "naming names" happens all of the time in today's media/politics.

You know the media's lovefest with Obama is officially over when the media (that would be you, Rick) bothers to call attention to this tactic.

It's Rick's way of saying, "Who are you calling a 'pundit'?"

Once this begins, the "Clinton won the debate," "Polls show Hillary lead increases" headlines are soon to follow. And once the headlines hit, the American voter - that's you, Swampies - will follow suit.

Meet our next president of the United States: Hillary Rodham C. It's back to the future and we can only guess whether Bill will resist the temptation of bedding a model where Lincoln once rested.

The mistake was electing Obama to the senate. Voters should not make that same mistake again.

Posted by: Bruce | July 27, 2007 11:42 PM

Yes Brucie,how fortunate we would be to have the Honorable Sen.Alan Keyes.

Do you guys scare yourself with some of the stupidity that you speak?

President Obama will take care of this.

Relations between the top United States general in Iraq and Nouri al-Maliki, the country's prime minister, are so bad that the Iraqi leader made a direct appeal for his removal to President George W Bush.

You must admit talking with Arafat worked wonders for Bill and Jimmy's efforts.
Maybe the Jews just don't know how to negotiate.

What the leftist extremists just don’t get-

Americans are winners not losers. They will not elect a democrat president in 08.

The liberal extremists that have taken over the Democratic Party have already said we, the USA, have lost the war on terror and should surrender. Sure they call it redeploy but most Americans recognize that liberals want to surrender, quit, lose in order to hurt the President and his party.

Most Americans will support the effort to confront the Muslim extremists. Most Americans know that the President said, (I paraphrase) that we face a great challenge to civilized societies that will take generations to defeat.

When they go to the polls in 2008 they will support the candidate that will defend America and preserve our freedom for their children and their children’s children.

Most Americans are winners not losers.

When they go to the polls in 2008 they will support the candidate that will defend America and preserve our freedom for their children and their children’s children.

Most Americans are winners not losers.

Posted by: CJ Testify | July 28, 2007 1:06 PM

I believe I heard this right before the last election.

Yes Brucie,how fortunate we would be to have the Honorable Sen.Alan Keyes.

Do you guys scare yourself with some of the stupidity that you speak?

Posted by: Raving Loon | July 28, 2007 11:12 AM

Raving Loon,

I can’t remember anything that you have ever written that indicates you should be implying that anybody is stupid. All I have ever heard from you is hate and insults, you know like you’re a little kid.

VP,how long have you been posting on the Swamp,haven't seen your post before.

Is it possible you're one of the cowards I've run out of here?

I stand by my statement to Brucie,if I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll let me know.

"VP", don't insult little kids by comparing them to "Raving Loon", who in 3 sentences makes 5 grammatical errors. Even 4th graders write better than "Loonie".

The Obama speech is pure Barack, which is to say, pure piffle. Note his actual proposals: "frank discussion", "engagement", and the everpresent "talk". He actually thinks his blizzard of words, his global gabfest, is a serious policy proposal.

Which is really scary.

Raving Loon

Just to point out the obvious since you seem a little dense,

If you had run me out of here, how is it I am here posting? da

I am sure that if people have left this blog because of you it has to do with intolerance for the thoughts of fools not because they are cowards.

VP

Is it possible you're one of the cowards I've run out of here?

I stand by my statement to Brucie,if I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll let me know.

Posted by: Raving Loon | July 28, 2007 8:27 PM

Hey Raving Loon,

I think you have been reading too many of your own press releases.

"Macho, Macho man

Loon wantstabe an macho man..."

Who have you ever "run out of here"? Get over yourself, boy.

I've been reading here for quite some time and I've noticed that:

1) you virtually never have anything to say that adds to the conversation; and

2) Just about everybody simply ignores you.

Once I got you to actually say something calm and more or less reasonable, but it was like pulling teeth!

Grow up!

Loon is right!
You're not fooling anyone, you idiot.

Insert Clever Post Name Here

Juanito

Leo T

...you've been run off here more times than I can remember and yet you always come back with some new post name but nothing new to say.

No one likes an arrogant #*@*! like you who thinks they know more than everyone else about anything and everything.

Anonymous,

Wow, so much hate and anger, maybe you should see someone about that.

As I read these postings here at The Swamp I have come to see just how hateful the radical left has become. These are important issues and should be discussed with much less hate and name calling.

Well welll well,looks like the "Sissyhawks" are foaming from the mouth again.

Are you the same people that couldn't say enough nasty things about the Clinton's in the 90's?

Are you the people that just lapped up every rotten trick Rove and company could throw at the Dems?

Our your comments aimed at me because I don't play nice like some Dems?

Getting back to the original post,Bruce insinuated that Illinois was stupid for electing Obama as our Senator.I found that comment really stupid considering the fact is the alternative was Black man Alan Keyes.

Did you all vote for Keyes,be honest now.

Loon,

I can't speak for anybody else, but my comment was aimed at you partly because you never have anything to say but just won't shut up -- which isn't just odd, it's annoying -- but mostly because you have such a grossly inflated idea of your own importance that you seem to actually believe that some people run out of here because of your rhetorical barbs.

PUH-lease! I guess it must be a male thing, this sort of silly strutting and chest thumping.

Once again, the reality is that most people here simply ignore you. And that's what I'm going to go back to doing.

"Which is really scary.

Posted by: Bruce | July 29, 2007 10:08 AM"

Shouldn't there be a '?' after scary?

It is useless to reason with those such as VP, Bruce, CJ Testify, Bigdawgg, Insert Clever Post Name, and all their fellow ilk who still support Mr. Bush & his policies.

They come here ostensibly to "talk & discuss the issues"... but then support occupying countries half way around the planet & shutting people up by killing them.

THEN, they criticize Mr. Obama for wanting to "talk & discuss the issues".

Talking & discussing the issues is simply a stall tactic to maintain the status quo. Thousands are dying in Iraq, millions are dying around the world every year, and they are still "talking"... and talking about protecting America, American "freedom", and the American Way of Life. What a tragic joke.

Engaging in dialogue with "people" such as these is like engaging in dialogue with a brick wall. If they haven't changed their minds in 5 years of failure & nonprogress - they aren't likely to ever change their minds. They are perfect reflections (or copies) of their beloved President Mr. Bush. Stubborn, brainwashed, unsympathetic, heartless, cowardly idiots.

These "bricks" are the greatest obstacles to world peace. Perhaps instead of blowing up Iraq, we should consider blowing up the bricks instead.

Evanel L,

I do not, and never have, supported Mr Bush and his policies.

I do critcize Mr Obama for being a featherweight, long on platitudes and short on specifics, and for his bought and paid for by lobbyists and the powers-that-be.

And I also criticize other posters who attack me without actually knowing what my views are. You've lumped a number of people together into a single "ilk" who don't belong together, and then launched a vague ineffectual "rebuttal". But I'm hardpressed to understand what it is you're rebutting.

FYI: A political blog like this happens to be all about "Talking & discussing the issues.

Insert Clever:

Here's your supportive quote of Biggdawg:

"I was scratching my head alright: wondering whether he was a liar or a bonehead."

Posted by: Biggdawg | July 27, 2007 10:16 PM

Your Answer: Some from column A, Some from column B

You've lumped yourself together. The difference between you & Biggdawg is just shades of gray: one is just slightly darker than the other.

You say you support "talking & discussing the issues," yet here you support criticism of Mr. Obama, agreeing that he is part-liar & part-bonehead for wanting to talk & discuss the issues with the leaders of our so-called "enemy rogue states".

Your comment is evidence enough of your "political views" regarding foreign policy.

The US spends $400+ billion/year on the euphemistically-termed "defense". (Very strange how our "defense" always makes us invade & attack countries thousands of miles away overseas.)

Iran spends $6 billion/year.
The US has 5,000 operational strategic nukes, plus 4,000+ in reserve. Iran, of course, has 0.

Who is the greater threat to who? So what's wrong with open dialogue with such an inferior "enemy"? Or have you, like so many others, been brainwashed by the media into believing that Iran is on the verge of becoming a terrorist state & the next greatest threat to Western civilization???

You obviously fail to see the hypocrisy here. Kill Iraqis. Ignore or Threaten the Cubans, Iranians & N. Koreans... unless they do what we want (our so-called "pre-conditions"). If they start building nukes (for power plants or bombs), then kill them, too.

But talk with like-minded Republicans or Independents, and debate or argue with Democrats & other fellow Americans.

How humane, compassionate, civilized, and intelligent. How proud you must be to consider yourself such an independent "American".