Glad to here these poll results which I would like to think are true. Being old enough to look back on how far this country has come with regard to tolerance this maybe the feel good story of the week. I find myself leaning toward voting for a woman or a black man this year. Mitt Romney's being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints wouldn't affect my vote as much as his pandering to the rightwing base. Sad thing is that I think his real views are more moderate than what he has stated in the debates. I kinda feel sorry for middle of the road conservatives that Mitt seems to back off his own values for the sake of being a tuff guy. I mean do you think Mitt actually ever went varmint hunting?

Anticipating that the "Swamp" (too busy promoting Democrats in general and St. Barack in particular) won't publish these poll results, I'll do what the "Swamp" reporters won't:

1) The latest Newsweek poll has Hillary Clinton leading St. Obama by a whopping 23% (56%-33%) in a head on head matchup among Democrats.
2) The latest Gallup poll says the Democrat Congress has a 14% approval rating--the lowest approval rating for Congress in all the 34 years Gallup has been polling.

The most hopeful polling shows young Americans becoming not only more open minded and tolerant of minorities, but actually speaking up about it.

Of course that's not good news for RNC Bruce and his shoe shiners.

And ya gotta like that.

Dinosaur Hunter,

Yeah Mitt's a real tough guy. A tough guy who ducked Vietnem to prothlesize in France.

On the varmint hunter gut buster. I can't wait to see those campaign ads. If I was writing that ad, I'd intersperse Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny with that wascally Mitt.

After watching the "news" shows this morning I think there should be a Paul/Gravel ticket. They speak the same language. Smaller government...get out of Iraq.

1) The latest Newsweek poll has Hillary Clinton leading St. Obama by a whopping 23% (56%-33%) in a head on head matchup among Democrats.
2) The latest Gallup poll says the Democrat Congress has a 14% approval rating--the lowest approval rating for Congress in all the 34 years Gallup has been polling.

Posted by: Bruce | July 8, 2007 10:12 AM

Bruce this has what to do with "Are Americans willing to vote for a black president, or for a woman? A Latino? A Mormon?" I also noticed that you've begun to resort to the John D school of bad taste name calling, St. Barack. I may think your totally misguided politically and an RNC stooge who most likely draws a paycheck for blogging, but St. Barack??? I expect a little bit better from you. The 14% approval rating reflects peoples frustration with everything going on in Washington. That poll must bring you great comfort considering your guy Bush's approval ratings, not to mention Cheneys. I'm quite sure I heard Cheneys were the lowest ever for a Vice President. The difference here being the American people understand when government doesn't work. I wonder why you continue to defend that horror-show of an administration people like you elected. Wait I've got it a paycheck from the RNC!

Bruce,

Obviously you're a Republican, and at least a Conservative if not a right winger.

So you and I have virtually nothing in common... except this:

I have to ask, why are some people here so enamored with this department store window manequin called Barack Obama?

Can somebody PLEASE explain to me why I should waste my vote on him?

SPECIFICALLY, please.

Talking about POLICY, please.

Without using the words "inspiring", "young", "vigorous", "hope" or the initials "JFK", please.

Without saying "He can't be worse", please.

I now await the usual uncomfortable silence. Or dissembling.

Bruce

That doesn't help your case. What American's WON'T vote for is continuing to support a corrupt administration and a political party willing to cover for their illegal activity.

Yes, Bruce--the approval rating for congress is low. But why? Congress was given a mandate in the last election to get us out of Iraq and to clean up the mess this administration has created of our country. Until they deliver what was promised, their approval rating will be low.

Check out this AP story about Thompson & Nixon.

'Ol little red pickemup truck Fred is as phony as the day is long:

http://www.fairviewobserver.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070708/NEWS0206/707080383/1321/MTCN06

Actually, Congress should be very popular given that they are not doing anything except spewing a lot of greenhouse gases into the air with their non-stop rhetoric. Thomas Jefferson was right: "The least government is the best government."

Bruce,

To correct one aspect of your endless disinformation, actually Obama would have to improve by about 70% to reach Clinton's results, as 56 is about 70% higher than 33. They are separated by 23 percentage points, not 23%.

ICPNH,

I sincerely doubt anything anyone could tell you would change your opinion about Obama. Fine, it's a free country.

But if you really want to know about Obama's policy ideas why don't you just go to his web site and read for yourself and elliminate the middle people?

Congress was given a mandate in the last election to get us out of Iraq and to clean up the mess this administration has created of our country. Until they deliver what was promised, their approval rating will be low.

Posted by: coach | July 8, 2007 1:12 PM

And with their very slight majority in Congress, the Republicans can still obstruct any kind of meaningful legislation anyone puts forward.

"Bruce,"

You are aware that in that same Newsweek poll, ALL leading Democrats beat ALL leading Republicans in head-to-head matchups, right? That "St. Barack" beats Giuliani, McCain and Romney heads-up?

Coach,

So they're not delivering... and your point is...?

And if any poster wants to read the actual Newsweek Poll results, you'll see that Hillary's latest 23% lead (56%-33%) is up from her 12% lead (51%-39%) in their previous poll. Yes, St. Barack is losing ground to Clinton. Check it out, Obama-nuts. Just click on the link above, and go to question 12.

Now why do you suppose Christi Parsons omitted that very important result when she wrote the article on this poll? It's hardly because she, and Swamp reporters in general, are reluctant to write about Obama. In fact, she mentions Obama in the article. And Swamp reporters generally love to publicize polling data on the Dem presidential race. So why, then, do you think the parts of the poll unfavorable to Obama were omitted in the article?

It's 'bout TIME people were getting comfortable with looking at people minus extraneous labels like "female" "Mormon" "African-American" and the others. I'm waiting for the time when all those things are about as important as a person's hair or eye color, or their preference of ice cream flavors.

I have to ask, why are some people here so enamored with this department store window manequin called Barack Obama?

Can somebody PLEASE explain to me why I should waste my vote on him?

SPECIFICALLY, please.

Talking about POLICY, please.

Without using the words "inspiring", "young", "vigorous", "hope" or the initials "JFK", please.

Without saying "He can't be worse", please.

I now await the usual uncomfortable silence. Or dissembling.

Posted by: [INSERT CLEVER POST NAME HERE] | July 8, 2007 1:03 PM
_________________________

Please go to Obama's Web site.

http://www.barackobama.com/

Go to "Issues," drag down, and read a bit.

If you don't like what you read, don't vote for him. If you like what you read, gather more information and make an informed decision closer to the election date.

You don't need others at this site to tell you what to think. Choose for yourself.

Jim,
Just about all of those "issue stands" by Barack are platitudes. But lets' dissect some of them.
He says he is for securing our borders, but not one vote of his has proven that.
He says he is for cleaning up Washington, yet is mired in his little scandal with the slimy and indicted Tony Rezko.
He says he wants to improve out image overseas. Is that at the expense of our safety? Security? Jobs? Do you sell us out to make ourselves viewed better overseas?
He wants a better energy policy? Well, what is that policy? He is not favor of us drilling for more oil. He is not in favor of more refineries. He wants alternative energy, which is fine. But what? He is for more nuclear energy? Building more natural gas lines?
He wants more spent on education. That's great, but you know what? The more this country spends on education and we are spending more and more and more all the time and getting less and less and less to show for it. Let's make schools, teachers AND parents more accountable. Let's stop passing subpar students. Let's stop the prevention of giving out bad grades because they offend parents and make kids feel bad.
Barack also is for higher taxes, I am not.
He is for government-run health care, I am not. (Medicare is failing even worse than private insurance.)
He is for spending less on defense, I am in favor of spending more on defense.

Barack is great at the platitudes, but as an old Wendy's commercial used to say, "Where's the beef?"

"Please go to Obama's Web site."

Posted by: Jim McPherson | July 8, 2007 3:49 PM

"...why don't you just go to his web site and read for yourself...?"

Posted by: Doug Zook | July 8, 2007 2:36 PM

Done that.

And I'm not very impressed. Yes it sounds good... Vaguely... Like everybody's promises sound good.

See, the problem is that Obama's camp promises that he will approach politics in a different way; that he's not in bed with the the big corporations, and the lobyists and the old political operators... and, in fact, he is. You're all suggesting that he's clean as clean can be but he's not.

So why should I be especially impressed with his vague nice sounding promises as opposed to somebody else's vague nice sounding promises?

In spite of what you might want to believe, he's no different than any other hack.

As to who I would support instead of Obama? i honestly don't know. Everybody (who's viable) disappoints me.

Doug,
Thanks for the link to the story re: Thompson.
Do Republicans love him because of his keen intellectual capacity, or because of his years of service as a water-carrier for the party?

ICPNH,
Well,you have to understand that Barack "Hussein" Obama is a liberals dream.
He's for late term abortion.
He's a gun grabber.
A libs dream!

Paulo

2) The latest Gallup poll says the Democrat Congress has a 14% approval rating--the lowest approval rating for Congress in all the 34 years Gallup has been polling.

Posted by: Bruce | July 8, 2007 10:12 AM

Ahhh..Bruce...I read that poll. I also read where it said "is this bad news for the democrats"? No was the answer, because it seems anything is better than voting republican.
Wake up..smell the coffee
The party is toast.

To:Insert Clever Name

I understand why you are having problems knowing your name. You asked for my point, so I guess that I will have to spell it out for you.

Just as the neo-cons and our president squandered world-wide support after 9/11 by invading Iraq instead of staying the course to punish those that actually committed the atrocities, the top Democrats have squandered the out-pouring of public support gained from last year's congressional election.

On the war, on ethics and on challenging corporate power, American voters expressed a desire for change and a congress that would begin to serve the public interest

Why hasn't this happened? The Democrats are still burdened with too many don't-rock-the-boat, corporate backed, old Democrats who sit in key leadership posts. They are so entrenched that they don't feel the public's anger about Bush's war, so they have no sense of urgency about confronting this out of control president.

Even on congressional reform, which should be a slam dunk for Democrats as compared to the other side of the aisle, some of the old dogs have balked on an independent ethics commission. They don't want to limit their own possibilities of cashing in to become lobbyists, and they don't want to stop using lobbyists as their own campaign money raisers.

The point is: No Name and Cheryl--The job of congressional clean-up is not complete. The voters made a good start last year, but it must continue in next years elections. We need to elect more true reformers to replace the business-as-usual crowd that is clogging up both parties.

Check out: N.Y. Times, June 14,2007--"For Democratic Leaders, a Fear that the Focus on the War has Blurred"

Hispanic, black, woman?? I wonder if the country would EVER accept a gay president? Just curious.

pillow

Why did you put Hussein in quotes? That's his middle name, lamer. Do you think someone's not going to vote for him because he shares it with Saddam, among, I am sure, many other men. Look up the number of convicted killers names Jesus.

johnf,

You asked "Why Thompson?"

I know I don't know.

My best guess is a lot of the Thompson pushers don't think any of their other candidates can win in '08. And they do have a point there.

ICPNH,
Well,you have to understand that Barack "Hussein" Obama is a liberals dream.
He's for late term abortion.
He's a gun grabber.
A libs dream!

Paulo

Posted by: Paulo | July 8, 2007 8:08 PM

Paulo seek professional help. You are a nut!!!

America is not going too have a black president anytime soon. Most white Americans dont even like black people, let alone electing a black president. The U S is still a very segregated place.

INSERT CLEVER POST NAME HERE....

It's because he is half black and liberal so he may help asuage white liberal guilt. (or at least they think so)

The lakefront liberals are salivating over this guy.

Oh...and he gives good speeches full of lofty generalities that the lowest common denominator can all agree on.

Posted by: coach | July 9, 2007 2:47 AM

coach -- Great post.

What the polls don't show is how these same Americans will either fall for some racist attack (see Ford of TN) or will cower when the politics get tough and withdraw into "this-is-too-negative" crouch.

Most Americans are liars and cowards and they'd never vote for a black, etc.. And then there's the crowd that would complain that it's not about the candidates race, sex, sexual orientation or religion.

Of course it's not. It's about America's bigotedness.