A Giuliani endorsement for Obama?: The Swamp
The Swamp
Posted August 6, 2007 1:50 PM
The Swamp

By Christi Parsons

It probably doesn't come as a huge surprise that Rudy Giuliani's daughter isn't a fan of his candidacy for the Republican nomination for president, given recent press accounts of his honor's rocky relationship with his children.

But for her to declare her allegiance to Barack Obama, a Democrat seeking his party's nomination for the same job? With political families, that's more family discord than you usually see in public.

The record, as it turns out, is Facebook, and the details come to the wider world by way of a Harvard Crimson columnist named Lucy Morrow Caldwell. Caroline Giuliani recently professed membership in the Barack Obama Facebook group, according to Caldwell, who had access to it as a fellow student at Harvard.

Caldwell tells the story in Slate.

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Rudy Gigoloiani can't even get his own kids to endorse him as "Dad", let alone "President".


Well, gee, Patty and Ron Reagan were against daddy for the presidency too. Unfortanately, no matter hard parents try, occasionally a kid or two will go off the reservation so to speak and do or be something nutty. Isn't that right, John E.' parents?


Do we need to know more than this? She has known him for 17 years, is his own daughter and will be voting for Barack Obama.
Now that's classic!!


Rudy seems to wear out his welcome both politically and professionally. It will be interesting to see how he does over the course of the campaign.


Ha Ha way to get at daddy dearest. No campaign architect could have created such a dimension. I remember when this became an issue in NY, and his political career was rejected by his children.


Posted by: John D | August 6, 2007 2:06 PM

The Streamwood Serpent spews venom once again.


Giuliani is a fraud. There is absolutely nothing to him. He has no credibility. The man believes he's entitled to be president because he was mayor of New York when it was attacked on Sept. 11th and he ventured down to ground zero. What does it tell one when your own kin aren't supporting your ambitions.


In case you didn't notice, Rudy isn't running for "father of the year." Humiliating one's daughter and wife with
personal behavior while in office doesn't score well on the Daddy meter, either, but that didn't seem to bother some people who now express their "chagrin" with Rudy.


I've heard of politicians not carrying their home state...but.....ouch!

ps..I wouldn't push the family values thing!


Well, gee, Patty and Ron Reagan were against daddy for the presidency too. Unfortanately, no matter hard parents try, occasionally a kid or two will go off the reservation so to speak and do or be something nutty. Isn't that right, John E.' parents?

Posted by: John D | August 6, 2007 2:06 PM


Hey Little Johnny D:
I see you were attending a pro-war rally this past weekend:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/justlarry/38121952/

Nice sign Little Johnny D'Jihad !


When Rudy started out his married life by marrying his cousin,I'm sure it set the stage for what we see now.

As a father and a politician who is running for Prez,he owes everyone an explanation as to why his daughter thinks Obama is more qualified to be Prez.


I recall watching Hillary on Jay Leno (she was much more human than she comes across in video clips). Jay asked her what she and Bill would do if Chelsea became a Republican. Hillary responded, "We would miss her very much."


Dave,

That's good stuff.

John E,

I have that same photo stored in my favorites folder for when my rabid Cards fan in-laws rail on the Cubs. It's not John D though, this is:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/ADVG/535~Homer-Simpson-Posters.jpg


Oh weird, demented Johnnny E., you are such a hoot with that picture. Course, I don't have long hair and I'd wear a Cubs shirt long before a Cardinals shirt.

Now, your mummy and duddy did send me this picture taken of you recently:

http://www.weird-websites.com/Pictures/Pictures/people/man4.jpg


This story makes me uncomfortable. She's only 17. I don't think it's a good idea to announce to the world she has a Facebook page.


Well, gee, Patty and Ron Reagan were against daddy for the presidency too. Unfortanately, no matter hard parents try, occasionally a kid or two will go off the reservation so to speak and do or be something nutty. Isn't that right, John E.' parents?

Posted by: John D | August 6, 2007 2:06 PM


Hey Little Johnny D:
I see you were attending a pro-war rally this past weekend:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/justlarry/38121952/

Nice sign Little Johnny D'Jihad !

Posted by: John E | August 6, 2007 3:59 PM

I hope john E that you were there, and personaly saw John D with a sign. If not, then you are wasting everybody's time with your loony tune wannabe humor.
John D. AS my oldest goes off to college, your comment about a kid going off the reservation was quite a humdinger.


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Posted by: John D | August 6, 2007 2:06 PM

The Streamwood Serpent spews venom once again.

Posted by: jethro | August 6, 2007 3:34 PM

Spewing venom sure beats doing the research to dig up links to back up allegations he makes in Swamp posts.


Having a Facebook page requires a registration process that requires a valid school email account. The site has a database of schools and their account addresses it recognizes, and the student must confirm through that student account before becoming a member. So the only people on there (Facebook) would be more legit than lets say the ones on Myspace. The only thing she would get is possible hate or support mail. Which she can block or reports or make her profile private etc. I don't think its a big deal.


Giuliano is a Republican's Republican. They can be all preachy about family values and morality in one breath and the next breath family values and morality don't mean diddly squat. If Rudy can't convince his own flesh and blood that he is the best thing since fried green tomatoes, how can he convince the rest of America he is the best thing since fried.....?


What do you expect from a "skull full of much".

If you a 20 and you are conservative, you have no heart. If you are 40 and you are liberal, you have no brain."

As she gets older, she will get wiser.

John E will find this out when he graduates 3rd grade.


"If you a 20 and you are conservative, you have no heart. If you are 40 and you are liberal, you have no brain."


The median age in America reached its highest point ever at 35.3 years, up from 32.9 years in 1990, according to recently released data from Census 2000. By "median age," the Census Bureau means that half of the American people are now older and half younger than 35.3 years.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa051801a.htm

So I guess it is understandable that most of America thinks that the illegal occupation is wrong. They have a heart (unlike over 40 Terry, who claims to have a brain, anyways). They are all under 40. Wow Terry, how does it feel to be so wrong.... again?


Anonymus,

Thanks for explaining what "median" means, I never would have known that.

By the way, 35.3 is greater than 20


BC, I put forth more stuff to back me up than all the Loons here combined. From you losers, we get salon and any other dingy left wing website.

You folks wanted proof for tax cuts for all, I provided it.
Proof about Edwards's suits (BC's favorite topic), I provided an article from Men's Vogue.

The trouble is, you Loser Lefties can't handle the truth, can't understand the truth and frankly are the worst mankind has to offer.


Terry,
If you a 20 and you are conservative, you have no heart. If you are 40 and you are liberal, you have no brain."

Why don't you update this very old out of date statement to make it more relevant for today's world? Conservative is the LAST thing this bunch of crooks can claim to be.

I would update it this way:
If you're 20 and you're supporting the BushCheney illegal occupation of Iraq, then you need to go there and get shot at while you're learning about the lies the recruiters, Bush, the Pentagon, and the Defense Departmnet told you to get you there.

If you're 40 and you're supporting the BushCheney illegal occupation of Iraq, then you need to live through the horror of losing the life of your child as a sacrifice to an elitist regime.


Mrs. J., in regard to our "illegal" occupation in Iraq, how would that sentiment square with a President Obama attacking and invading an ally in Pakistan? Would his Napoleon Bonaparte act be considered "illegal"???


The U.S. occupation of Iraq is illegal. Saddam has been removed from power and the so called mission has been accomplished. It's time for the Iraqi's to deal with their own issues and problems. An overwhelming majority of the Iraqi's don't even want the U.S. there. Advise of of the relationship between 9/11 and Iraq. Or was this part of a larger neocon agenda for another Mid East country?? And John D. you certainly are clueless and loony and pathetic and incapable of handling the truth if you really think Pakistan is an ally.


Mrs. J., in regard to our "illegal" occupation in Iraq, how would that sentiment square with a President Obama attacking and invading an ally in Pakistan? Would his Napoleon Bonaparte act be considered "illegal"???

Posted by: John D | August 7, 2007 8:58 AM

Don't you remember your fearless leader saying about 3 or 4 weeks ago that if he had inteligence where Bin Laden was in Pakistan, he would go after him? How quickly you forget. When did you guys give up on the "tough on terrorist" talk? What happened to "dead or alive"? What happened to bringing the 9/11 terrorists to justice?
An ally huh? Was that before or after you threatened to blow them off the map?


Bill R and Doug R (hmmm, both end with R. Related, perhaps?): Pakistan has been an ally and has arrested many Al Qaeda operatives.

Here are a series of excerpts of news reports from CNN, FOX NEWS and others:

LAHORE, Pakistan (CNN) --The alleged No. 3 man in al Qaeda -- believed responsible for the terror group's global operations -- has been captured in northwest Pakistan near the border with Afghanistan, Pakistani and U.S. officials said Wednesday.

(AP)LONDON — Investigators on three continents worked to fill in the full, frightening picture Friday of a plot to blow U.S. jetliners out of the Atlantic skies, tracking the money trail and seizing more alleged conspirators in the teeming towns of eastern Pakistan.

One arrested there, a Briton named Rashid Rauf, is believed to have been the operational planner and to have connections with Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, Pakistani and U.S. officials said.

British and Pakistani authorities have arrested as many as 41 people in the two countries in connection with the alleged suicidal plan, broken up by British police this week, to detonate disguised liquid explosives aboard as many as 10 planes bound from Britain to the United States.

FOX News -- A top Al Qaeda leader whose links stretch from Usama bin Laden's training camps to extremist networks in Europe has been captured in Pakistan, a U.S. law enforcement official confirms for the first time.

Pakistani officials also tell The Associated Press that Mustafa Setmarian Nasar, a dual Syrian-Spanish national with a $5 million U.S. bounty on his head, has been flown out of the country to an unspecified location.

Nasar was captured in a November sting in the southwestern Pakistani city of Quetta that left one person dead, the American official said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter. The official spoke to the AP late last week.

And one of the biggest arrests by Pakistan was of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

How to be Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest: The mantra of the Loony Left.


How to be Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest: The mantra of the Loony Left.

Posted by: John D | August 7, 2007 10:11 AM

They are nicely cherry picked pieces , but, the fact remains...did or did we not threaten to blow Pakistan off the map as the leader of that "ally" nation has said.
As far as the R in our names..we are brothers of different mothers..unlike the all for me attitude displayed by the right.


Bill R., actually Musharraf became an ally after 9/11, we did not threaten to blow them off the face of the planet. Musharraf was astute enough to know that after 9/11 he had to align himself with the U.S. and not the Taliban and the fact that even then Al Qaeda was trying to assassinate him, told him his cards were better with us.

And, Perpetually Ignorant Bill R., those articles were not "cherry-picked." I could have provided lots more link to articles about Pakistani arrests of Al Qaeda operatives but I have more things to do in the day that keep trying to educate the uneducatable.


And, Perpetually Ignorant Bill R.,
Posted by: John D | August 7, 2007 12:02 PM

PRAGUE, September 22, 2006 (RFE/RL) -- Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf has accused Washington of threatening to bomb his country "back to the Stone Age" after the terrorist attacks of September 2001 unless Islamabad cooperated fully with the U.S. campaign against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Musharraf made the remarks on an American news program just hours before today's talks at the White House with U.S. President George W. Bush.

Would you like to address this?

those articles were not "cherry-picked."
No , but they certainly are only one side of the story of Pakistan. It is amazing how the U.S. continues to use the carrot-and-stick policy with Pakistan which was nearly declared a rogue state before September 11.


Hello...John D....care to address my last post or should I remain "Perpetually Ignorant" like you called me?


Simmer down, Bill R. There is more to life than just resonding to you and the rest of your ilk on a regular basis.
As I remember the Bush administration denied they threatened Musharraf in that way. That comment basically seen as a way for Musharraf to take some of the heat off of him regarding the more extreme elements in his country.

And, don't get me wrong, Musharraf is not the best of people, but at the moment he is the best there is in Pakistan and has been helpful to one degree or another.


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