by William Neikirk
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says he is "sickened" that President Bush and Congress went on vacation "while young Americans in our cities are massacred by people who should not be here."
In a newsletter released today, Gingrich cited the recent execution-style murders of three college-bound students in Newark as evidence that "there is a war here at home, and it is even more deadly than the war in Iraq and Afghanistan." Another student survived a gunshot wound.
Two of four suspects in that case are illegal immigrants "or aliens," as Gingrich called them, who had been charged with other crimes in the U.S. but yet were not detained by authorities. One is from Peru, the other from Nicaragua.
The Georgia Republican, now with a conservative think tank in Washington who still has his eye on the presidency, called on Bush and Congress to come back to town in a special session for three days to deal with the problem by passing a bill to identify illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. He first mentioned this case in Ames, Iowa, where he spoke at a Republican gathering Saturday night.
Although Gingrich has sometimes stepped over the line with his rhetoric, this one could resonate with people because of the linkage between illegal immigration and violent crime. Some opponents of a recent immigration have accused supporters of supporting amnesty. Now, to that, they could add, "amnesty for felons" to try to give it more punch.
But don't expect Bush and our leaders to heed the former speaker's call for immediate action. He isn't speaker anymore.
Gingrich said our leaders should pass a law setting up a speedy national identification system by January of next year to detect illegal immigrants who are also felons. They should be detained, he said, and after they do time in prison, then they would be deported.
He said the U.S. government "played a role" in the murders because it did not identify and detain felons who happened to be illegal immigrants.
"More talk and more pious hand-wringing while doing nothing is just politics and bureaucracy as usual," he said. "We should demand more of our leaders, or we should get new leaders."
He meant President Bush, obviously, and the leaders of both houses of Congress. That sounds like a harsh thing to say about the president form one's own party.
He said he was "outraged" that the government failed to protect the Newark students." As an American, I am sickened that the political leadership of America could continue to go on vacation and do nothing, even when there was the most painful and tragic proof of the failure of our current system."
One of the suspects, Jose Lachira Carranza, from Peru, had been indicted last month for raping a five-year-old girl and threatening to kill her family and also had been charged with assaulting patrons in a bar. He pleaded innocent to the latest murders. The other suspect, Rodolfo Godinez, from Nicaragua, also has been charged with previous crimes but was never deported, said Gingrich.





Comments
"NEWT GINGRICH CAN YOU JUST SHUT YOUR NECK?"
AND GO READ RONALD REAGON A GHOST BEDTIME STORY.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AREN'T LISTENING TO YOUR RATCHED UP RHETORIC.
WE ALL KNOW YOU DON'T MIND WHEN LAWS ARE BROKEN, JUST AS LONG AS YOU ARE THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND YOU ARE THE ONE "CIRCUMVENTING THE LAW"
YES IN THE NAME OF THE GOP.
JUST PLEASE SHUT YOUR NECK!
THE NEXT GENERATION OF AMERICANS HAVE DONE JUDGED YOU AND SENTENCED YOU TO GOP JAILHOUSE AT CAMP DAVID.
SO PLEASE JUST SHUT YOUR NECK? BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE UNTIL THE NEXT GIRLFRIEND WALKS BY. OH HONEY I WILL BE LATE TONIGHT.
MR. FIDELITY HIMSELF.
Posted by: Roger Morris | August 13, 2007 8:28 PM
The sad thing is there are plenty of laws on the books to ensure these people are either deported or punished. The crime is that federal, state and local officials have been content to look the other way while our laws are ignored. Heaven forbid a cop asked about the immigration status of someone he stops for a violation. It is discrimination if we impound the cars of someone driving without a license.
Posted by: JM | August 13, 2007 8:59 PM
JM, we have sanctuary cities and Chicago is one of them that protects illegal aliens. We've had illegal aliens in this country kill people through DUI and judges let them go. We've had illegal aliens kill cops and then flee back to Mexico. We've had illegal aliens rape and murder children. In many such instances the authorities knew they were illegal and they had committed other crimes besides being here illegally, only to have judges free them and cities protect them.
Posted by: John D | August 13, 2007 9:13 PM
JM,
Most police chiefs have decided illegal aliens will quit reporting crime and cooperating as witnesses if local cops get involved in enforcing immigration laws.
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with this policy, but that's the rational that's offered.
For the time being perhaps Dubya's cranked up workplace employment law enforcement coupled with border security enhancement is the way to go.
Posted by: Doug Zook | August 14, 2007 8:40 AM
John D.,
I don't know how a city "...protects illegal aliens."
If you're referring to municipalities deciding that it's not their police department's role to enforcement immigration laws that would include the vast majority of municipalities throughout the United States.
This issue is one that makes me glad I'm not a union rep any more. SEIU and I parted ways on this subject a long time ago. As IMHO, non-enforcement of immigration/employment laws serves to depress wages and benefits of lawful workers/union members at the low end of the economic spectrum. I caught a lot of grief for this opinion.
Posted by: Doug Zook | August 14, 2007 8:48 AM
i hate to admit it but newt is absolutely right, on all points in this message. i can't believe that i'm interested in and agreeing with what the man said!
Posted by: sheila | August 14, 2007 8:57 AM
Basically, John D is right. There is a lot of bad things that happen within our borders that we should be more diligent about. Unfortunately, when you spend most of your time and resources trying to be the world police (Iraq, as example) you find yourself with limited resources to handle these domestic issues. Sure, this is an overly simplistic view of the situation. The answer to these types of problems are never as simple as they appear on the surface. The simple part is simple people (ie: Newt) trying to agitate the simple minded. This is, and many others are, very complex issues that need deep and serious thought and then serious and even handed solutions. A bunch of sound bytes that cater to the lowest common denominator designed to cause ill-thought overreaction is counterproductive.
We need serious people with serious ideals (beyond their own glorification) dealing with this type of issue. Unfortunately, Newt is not that type of person.
Posted by: kg123 | August 14, 2007 9:09 AM
Hyperbole--Gingrich's strong suit.
Posted by: Janstress | August 14, 2007 9:12 AM
Maybe what we need is to establish a specific or expanded "law enforcement" division of the INS to work directly with local law enforcement in "hot spot" areas of the country. Similar to the way the Treasury Dept. worked with local authorities (the honest ones anyway) during prohibition. i.e. Elliot Ness and the Chicago Police. Of course, hopefully, there are less "crooked cops" today.
Posted by: Steve | August 14, 2007 9:18 AM
We have more criminals per capita than any other civilized society. "Aliens" are a tiny slice of the problem. The "illegal" part of "illegal alien" refers to a misdemeanor, not a violent crime, most "illegals" are peaceful and hard working. Aside from their resident status, most are more law abiding than the citizens who oppose them, much more friendly too.
That being said, if you can not act appropriately in my home, you must leave, if you live in my home and act inappropriatley, you will be disciplined. My door is open to all who want to make my home a better place as well as those who need a helping hand. Newty is not welcome.
Posted by: Barry | August 14, 2007 9:37 AM
Newt for President.
Posted by: Ray Gorak | August 14, 2007 9:37 AM
Why didn't Newt propose all of these plans and laws back when he was in Congress in the 1990s, when he actually could have accomplished something?
Posted by: BC | August 14, 2007 10:14 AM
Ray Gorak,
I'm all for Newt being the Republican nominee.
Posted by: Doug Zook | August 14, 2007 10:14 AM
I suggest we put the Ku Klux Klan's hatred to good use by authorizing them to deal with illegal immigrants. Especially those guilty of violent crimes.
Posted by: Jackie | August 14, 2007 10:27 AM
Identify, jail and then deport them? Are you kidding me?!?!?! We need to spend more money housing illegal immigrants who committ crimes in this country? Send them back where they came from, that is punishment enough for them, or they wouldnt choose to be here.
I dont want to spend anymore of my tax money housing or helping anyone that is illegally in this country in the first place!
Its a good thing I am not in law enforcement, in cases like this and in situations where there is red handed evidence, I would just point and shoot!!
I know I will offend Leftist liberal's by saying that, but oh well...an eye for an eye...kill em and spend that money on people who legally live in the US and need that money!
Posted by: Bella | August 14, 2007 10:51 AM
Listen...why dont you Democratic Anti American Liberals just admit you hate America....Newt is one of the smartest men in America/World and we should hope that he runs and gets elected for President....you Liberals want to Legalize these people here who are Illegal but then you complain that we are not enforcing out laws when something like this happens....the Illegals are overcrowding our schools and flooding our emergency rooms I mean what more do you Liberals need to see....they get just about everything for free and laugh at our system for giving it to them.....the Illegals need to go back no matter what country they came from......
Posted by: Glenn | August 14, 2007 11:01 AM
Bella,
You offend everyone who isn't nuts.
Posted by: Doug Zook | August 14, 2007 11:24 AM
Is anyone else tire of seeing this hanger on? He's like poor relation, you think their gone them look around and -- here again.
Posted by: ken | August 14, 2007 11:28 AM
Glenn,
Even renters inadvertenly pay property taxes that pay for schools as it is built into the cost of their rent.
I support border security and employment law enforcement but "... get just about everything for free..." is asinine.
Bella, Glenn. Glenn, Bella.
Just, please, for the love of God, don't procreate.
Posted by: Doug Zook | August 14, 2007 11:30 AM
Glenn, you better fasten your tinfoil hat a little tighter or I'll cook your brain with my invisible "Liberal Death Ray". We'll get Newtie too, but his lead plated underpants are interfering with the signal.
Posted by: weinerdog43 | August 14, 2007 11:35 AM
Glenn,
Please remind me, which "liberal" was it who put their full "political capitol" behind amnesty for illegals ever since they took office? What's that guy's name?
Oh yeah: George Walker Bush. Some "liberal."
Posted by: Bryan | August 14, 2007 11:43 AM
Hey Barry, I dont know who you are but you sound like the typical Hate America Liberal to me. Listen who cares if 99.9% of the Illegals are hard working good people the fact is they are in fact Illegal and what more do you need to say, they work for low wages and for cash to where they are not helping with taxes to which helps runs this country. They takes Jobs Americans will do but not at the wages they are taking because us Legal Americans have to pay our fair share of taxes and we have to pay for Housing and Food and Healthcare and College to which Illegals get all that for free and we spend the money here in the US to try and keep this country the way it was a long time ago but with people like you Barry it is going to be harder to do.
Posted by: Gary | August 14, 2007 11:58 AM
Bella,
IF you were a law enforcement officer? Listen, it's real easy, IF you are as tough as you are when you type from behind your keyboard you can turn off the PC, walk down to a police academy and sign up.
Posted by: jethro | August 14, 2007 12:41 PM
Hey Doug, Bryan, Dog......first off "everthing for free" was a figure of speech and I think even you Liberals can understand that.....I am not sure where you guys live but please dont tell me that you are not effected by Illegal Immigration......first off they overcrowd schools to which in turn leads to more schools being built to which means more taxes to pay for the schools.....also they use emergency rooms to go treat colds to which increases our healtcare costs......listen what kind of America are we going to have 10-15-20 years from now when as of right now 1 in 10 counties are where the miniorties are the majority....if you are so Pro-Illegal Immigartion please let me know the area you live in and tell me the demographics for the area you are in.....I am German so do you think it is discrimination to me because you dont hit 5 for German....I think it is because if you have to hit 2 for Spanish why do you want to leave the other ethnic groups out that is not fair and I know all you Liberals are about being fair....year right.....
Posted by: Glenn | August 14, 2007 1:12 PM
But Jethro, why would I do that when I make more money than any Police Officer I know, who is constantly dwelling in slum for 10 hours only to have the slum back out on the streets to slum again?
What a tiredless effort!
oh and Bite me!!
Posted by: Anonymous | August 14, 2007 2:14 PM
That's right...I am a conservative Dem...and fiscally conservative. Spending government money on illegal aliens is a NO NO in my book!
If you come into this country, you should learn to speak english, work legally and pay taxes like everyone else, get your citizenship and I have no problem helping you out...
But if you come into this country illegally, don't speak english, dont work or pay taxes, use welfare and medical facilities at everyone elses expense, well yeah, I have a problem with that!!
Oh and I do have kids, already procreated...too late there Dougy!! And my kids will grow up knowing that this is a great "free" country, but it doesn't mean you can just take and take and take and give nothing back!
Posted by: Bella | August 14, 2007 2:28 PM
"SATAN SELLS"
NOTHING LIKE 25 YEARS LATER, CHECKING TO SEE WHO WAS ON THE BOAT.
HITLER DID THE SAME THING..SPIT OUT DAILY RHETRORIC LIKE WE ARE A DYING SPECIES AND ITS TIME TO ELIMINATE THE ONE SPECIES THAT IS HINDERING OUR DAY.
WELL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT ILLEGAL UNTIL THEY EITHER DECLARE THEMSELVES ILLEGAL OR ARE ENCARCERATED AND FOUND TO BE ILLEGAL.
BUT TO WAKE UP TOMORROW AND SAY, YOU ARE ALL ILLEGAL NOW, IS A CRIME AND INHUMAN.
ALL THE GOP CRONIES ARE COMING OUT WITH SWEAT UNDERNEATH THEIR BOTTOM LIPS FOR ACTION. THEY ARE SYSTEMATICALLY SHUTTING DOWN OUR BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT IN THE NAME OF FEAR. FEAR FROM AL QUEDA, FEAR FROM THE TALIBAN, AND NOW FEAR FROM THE MEXICANS.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE AND SHE ARE JUST THAT. MEXICAN AMERICANS, NOT ILLEGAL. SO FOR A CRIMINAL TO LEAVE THE HOUSE OF OJ AND TO COME OUT AND THROW STONES, IS A HYPOCRITE AND A WIFE BEATER.
WHO ASKED NEWT GINGRICH TO PUT BACK ON HIS NECK AND RESURFACE. IS HE THE GREAT WHITE HOPE THAT AMERICA CONTINUES TO SEEK? IS HE THE ONLY CHOICE LEFT FOR CAUCASION AMERICA. IF SO, ARE THEY NO HONEST MEMBERS IN ONES IMMEDIATE FAMILY THAT CAN BE PUSHED FORWARD AS A TRUE CANDIDATE.
ITS SICKENING THAT AFTER 200 YEARS, WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE, AND ALLOWING THE SAME MENTAL SICK MINDED MEN AWAKE US WITH THEIR SECULAR RHETORICAL WARS ON THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
LONG LIVE NANCY PELOSI!
Posted by: Roger Morris | August 14, 2007 2:32 PM
Glenn,
Who said I supported illegal immigration? YOU are the one who made the boneheaded, anti-factual argument that it is "liberals" who want amnesty for illegals. I've got news for you!
Illegal immigration is corporate welfare by another name, class warfare by another name, and another way for corporations to suppress wages and expand profitability on the backs of working people. Yes, some liberals support it on social grounds. But the big money and the big backers are big business, brother.
Why do you think President Bush has ALWAYS been so gung-ho about amnesty? You think he suddenly developed empathy on this and only this one singular issue. Call me cynical, but puhleaze. Its a sop to Big Bizness, the corporations that write the paychecks that buy our "civil servants." And there has not been a president friendlier to big business at all costs or more hostile to average people than this president.
As a liberal, I have been strongly opposed to illegal immigration since I was a teenager, for many reasons including the economic ones enumerated above. The immigration debate crosses party lines and is therefore an especially interesting one in these polarized times.
You can't pin this on "liberals" when the man MOST supportive of illegal amnesty is the right-wing President George W Bush.
Posted by: Bryan | August 14, 2007 3:34 PM
Hi Bella...you are absolutely right....you seem like a good sensible person but we have to try and get you on the "right" side and become a Republican....you see that is the thing Bella the Illegal Immigrants dont want to assimilate or become American they want to keep to their own culture and they want to speak their language and do things the way of their own country and not ours.....I really dont like Bush I think he is a RINO and I think we need a real strong conservative in the White House the next election.....also Roger Morris you need some serious help....it sounds like you live in San Francisco and if you dont I think you need to move there because if you support Pelosi then you dont support anything that is good for America which is Par with the Liberal course....give everything away for free and have more people rely on the government......Free Housing, Free Food, Free Healthcare, Free College, Free Free Free that is what you Liberals are good for.....oh and another thing how many more Liberal Judges are going to let Child Sexual Predators out with no jail time but I am sure you are ok with that.....
Posted by: Glenn | August 14, 2007 3:44 PM
Hi Bryan....ok sorry about that I didnt mean you lump you into the other group of Liberals that supports in my opinion the biggest crisis this country has every faced....I know there are some Republicans who support Illegal Immigration but the vast majority dont and the reason why we had all those protests last year is because the Republican Majority House Of Representatives passed a Bill that would've made every Illegal in the country a felon and that is why we had all the protests at the time....also Bryan I hope you agree with me on this but I cant help but want to punch the TV everytime I see a Liberal Judge give a Child Sex Offender Probation when they should do at least 25years in my opinion it really just makes me sick it makes me not want to watch the news.....
Posted by: Glenn | August 14, 2007 4:08 PM
Check Sen. Kennedy's record starting in the 60's for the lies he has been spreading non-stop on immigration. Also the labor union for prison guards in California protested deportation of felons because of job security issues.
Posted by: whatnow | August 14, 2007 4:16 PM
Bella, you will learn on here that conservative to some liberal Dems are evil incarnate to the Lefty Loons. They will tell you that it's the right who is intolerant other thought when in reality it is the Left. Countless independents, conservative to fairly liberal Dems have been attacked by the Loony Left time and time again.
Posted by: John D | August 14, 2007 4:18 PM
"listen what kind of America are we going to have 10-15-20 years from now when as of right now 1 in 10 counties are where the miniorties are the majority"
Hmm... lets see, an America where we don't consider minorities people to be scared of?
What exactly do you see as the problem with minorities becoming the majority Glenn?
Posted by: Tony | August 14, 2007 4:46 PM
Why does it seem like immigration law is the only law that isn't enforced? If I get a lousy parking ticket, and I don't pay it, the fines will increase until finally my license is suspended. But if you're an illegal alien you are left alone.
Posted by: Frank | August 19, 2007 9:46 PM
Is is hard to understand the supporters of lawless illegals. Look what they do:
1. enter USA illegally(crime)
2. drive without license, regisration & insurance (crime)
3. have baby do not pay- = theft
4. take USA benefits for baby = ripping USA off
5. steal and use SSN = identity theft (felony)
6. health, education etc all subsidized = ripping USA off
7. education for non citizen child = theft
8. return after deportation (crime)
9. ignore deporation orders(crime).
10. don't pay taxes(crime)
11. work illegally
And yet people want these guys to get amnesty and jump ahead of legal immigrants who are law abiding!
Posted by: Bettybb | September 9, 2007 9:39 PM
The illegal immigration problem can be dealt with ... if only our "representatives" would represent the legal american citizen. Just make SS#s instantly verifyable(just like Visa nd Mastercard) and build a fence. Without a valid SS#, no illegal could obtain a job or obtain social services .... end of the illegal problem, as most would self deport themselves back to their own countries. Gingrich himself has advocated such a solution.... and it is a sound, rational. and executable plan.
While liberal bemoan the loss of less than 4000 volunteer serviceman, we have 25 innocent men, women and children killed daily by illegals. Is it the loss of life, or the american military that liberals find so distasteful?
Posted by: Glasnos | January 3, 2008 5:37 PM
Several Midwest States have or are looking to pass laws that allow local law enforcement to enfore the federal laws dealing with illegal immigration. {Since the Feds don't} Oklahoma passed one recently, about time we took back America.
Posted by: coroner | February 28, 2008 12:37 AM