Bush: 'Success' means some soldiers come home: The Swamp
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Posted September 13, 2007 9:36 PM
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Bush delivered the address from his desk in the Oval Office. White House photo by Eric Draper.


by Mark Silva

President Bush, insisting that his escalation of military forces in Iraq has made substantial progress, promised tonight to withdraw thousands of U.S. troops from the battlefield by next summer, a payoff from his newly articulated principle of a “return on success.”

Military leaders say the scale-down – with 5,700 soldiers and Marines returning home “by Christmas,’’ and four more Army brigades and two Marine battalions leaving Iraq by mid-July 2008 – should return the U.S. military presence to nearly the level of 130,000 troops stationed in Iraq before Bush announced a “surge’’ of forces in January.

Yet, while Republican congressional leaders praise the president for “turning a corner’’ in Iraq, Democratic leaders complain that the United States will merely return to the status quo that existed earlier this year in Iraq – leaving an “open-ended commitment’’ to military forces in a war which most Americans oppose.

The surge, the president maintained in a nationally televised address from the Oval Office, has made Iraq safer and the continuing mission is critical to the security of the United States.

“The principle guiding my decisions on troop levels in Iraq is ‘return on success,’’’ the president said in his address to the nation. “The more successful we are, the more American troops can return home.’’

Yet critics contend that Iraqi leaders have failed to take advantage of the opportunity that the surge was intended to provide them, seeking a political reconciliation of warring factions that continue to make Baghdad and certain regions of Iraq deadly. The White House itself is prepared to concede in a progress report to Congress on Friday that the Iraqis have reached only half of the milestones which Congress has set.

Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, a West Point-trained former Army Ranger and opponent of the war in Iraq, said in the Democratic Party’s response to Bush’s address that “a nation eager for change’’ heard neither “a plan to successfully end the war or a convincing rationale to continue it.

“An endless and unlimited military presence in Iraq is not an option,’’ said Reed, vowing that Democrats, after months of political battle with Bush, “intend to exercise our Constitutional duties and profoundly change our military involvement in Iraq’’ – without explaining how the Democrats will wrest control over the war.

Republican leaders rallied around the president.

“One of the thing that really jumps out from the speech is that we are able to withdraw troops immediately as a result of the success of the surge,’’ said Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) “We’ve turned a corner in Iraq and are headed to a new place.’’

Yet the frustration of the war was underscored again today, critics say, in the killing of a Sunni tribal leader with whom Bush had met just last week in the western Anbar province of Iraq, a region touted as a model of the surge’s success – a killing which Bush noted in own his speech even as he pointed to Anbar’s progress.

“The enemy remains active and deadly,’’ Bush allowed in his relatively short address from his White House desk.

Democrats insist that the drawdown which Bush plans falls far short of what’s needed.

“The force reductions proposed tonight by the president, while welcome, do not take the necessary step of changing the mission of American forces in Iraq and getting our forces out of policing a civil war,’’ said Rep. Ike Skelton (D-Mo.), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. “We need to begin a more significant redeployment of our troops from Iraq.’’

Bush has based his strategy squarely on the recommendations of Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, who spent two days with Ryan Crocker, U.S. ambassador to Iraq, promoting the plan on Capitol Hill this week in the face of harsh skepticism among Democratic leaders.

Petraeus has said his plan will return combat forces to “pre-surge’’ levels, but neither the White House nor Department of Defense today could put a precise number on the troops that will return under the plan that the president now has endorsed. The U.S. had about 130,000 troops in Iraq before the “surge,’’ and 169,000 are stationed in Iraq today.

The overall numbers of brigades in Iraq will be cut from 20 to 15 next summer, according to senior administration officials. The withdrawal involves five Army brigades, one Marine expeditionary force and two Marine battalions.

With about 3,500 soldiers in each brigade – such as the one leaving in December – 2,200 in the Marine expeditionary unit leaving ithis month and about 600-800 in each Marine battalion, that means about 21,000 combat forces will leave Iraq by July, under this plan. But a Defense Department official says what cannot be predicted at this stage is how many supporting forces will follow in their paths.

The strategy includes “a gradual change in mission,’’ according to a senior administration official. This involves U.S. forces playing more of a supporting role and less of a leading role in maintaining security.

At the same time, neither Petraeus nor the president has committed to what, if any, draw-downs they foresee after July. Petraeus will make “a fresh assessment’’ of the situation in March, the president said, and deliver a new report to Congress then. The administration official said: “The president is very clear that we want to rely on conditions on the ground, not the calendar.’’

Readily allowing that Iraqi leaders have failed to make the political progress which Congress has demanded as a contingency for continued war funding, Bush insisted that the surge has made parts of Iraq safer.

“The premise of our strategy is that securing the Iraqi population is the foundation for all other progress,’’ the president said. “Our success in meeting these objectives now allows us to begin bringing some of our troops home.’’

While Democratic congressional leaders are critical of the surge as well as the way forward which Bush has charted, they have lacked the votes to block the president’s war strategies.

Republicans are confident that they can hold the line against Democratic initiatives.

McConnell said: “The key question is going to be whether some kind of proposal with a retreat date—a withdrawal date—is going to pass in the Senate, and I’m optimistic that no such proposal will pass.’’

Holding out the impending withdrawal as a matter of good political faith, the president has called on Congress to work with him in the months ahead.

“The way forward I have described tonight makes it possible, for the first time in years, for people who have been on opposite side of this difficult debate to come together,’’ Bush said, addressing Congress directly. “I ask you to join me in supporting the recommendations Gen. Petraeus has made.’’

The president maintained, as he has before, that the fight in Iraq is critical to the safety of the U.S., with Bush viewing Iraq as the central battleground in a global war on terror.

“Tonight, our moral and strategic imperatives are one: We must help Iraq defeat those who threaten its future – and also threaten ours,’’ Bush said. “It is never too late to support our troops in a fight they can win.’’

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God help us all. We're being asked to believe we are going to stay fully committed to an Iraqi government that doesn't really exist and has done almost nothing to establish itself as viable or supportable by it's own people. We will continue to use our blood and treasure to support this non-existant entity because the admisistration, that has brought myopic observation on reality to a new low, foresees that failure to continue to put our very best in the middle of a series of independant civil wars taking place in Iraq will lead to our country's future peril.
Add that to the fact that we have a Commander in Chief that is not in command of reality let alone the direction the country's course of action nor the interests and wants of the majority of the American people.

I repeat, God help us all, especially our troops who are consistantly being imperiled by a president who can only act in his own best interest and not in the interst of the people he purports to governs.

And to the sheep who will unquestioningly support this continuing failed and every changing policy and vision of potential success, please feel free to enlist at your earliest convenience so that the troops who have been in Iraq so long and will eventually be asked to overstay their intended deployments can come home and live the life you now lead hiding behind your keyboards.

Best Regard.


Is it just me or does it look like he used "Just for Men" in his hair???


"Bush: 'Success' Means Some Soldiers Come Home"

Huh? does W. actually believe that the whole country is as stupid as the Fox News Channel viewers/Republicans are?

The troops HAVE TO COME HOME BECAUSE Prez McFlightsuit, with the help of his bootlicking Republic Party friends, have already stretched the military to the breaking point, THESE WERE PLANNED WITHDRAWALS, THEY WERE NOT BECAUSE OF ANY SO CALLED "SURGE SUCCESS".

I'm surprised that W didn't have his lapdog General Petraeus sitting on his lap during his "speech".

The White House has released a video defending Petraeus from so-called "partisan attacks":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiuRhy4CqzU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Ecom%2Fstory%2F2007%2F9%2F13%2F213357%2F362


In June, W adamantly refused to consider ANY redeploymnet. Now, he's reading the tea leaves and sees his legacy parallelling LBJ's... He's doing some back-pedalling, but it just isn't fast enough for most of us out here in the audience. By Christmas he won't be able to get any sleep at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.


kg123,

You really should be a motivational speaker.
Do you hang out with JohnE?

Best Regard.

Paulo


And the liberal left continues to make sure our troops are defeated by our enemies.. and insult our troops by calling their commander traitor and liar.. Yeh, that is a new low..
And fighting a war with a time table? Give me a break. Can any general say that I will win the war in say, 18 months, period?


President Bush and the Republicans in Congress have been telling the citizens of the USA to wait for the so-called “Petraeus Report” for months before we change the course in Iraq. Now with relentless bloodshed and no political solution in sight, President Bush wants more time for his failed war. President Bush and the Republicans in Congress have been lying to the American public for several years now and people of high moral character and integrity need to stand up against these reptiles and their agenda’s to fleece America and murder our children in their self serving acts of treachery.
Bush, his neocons & corrupt republican party have murdered enough of our nation’s son’s daughters, mothers & fathers in their ilegal war for oil that happened only so that republicans could sieze political control in the USA before 2004. Bush never waged his personal war against Iraq with the intention of winning a war and those Americans who do not live with blinders on their heads see now see this truth. No more blank checks for this corrupt political administration. You, your PNAC daddies, your families and rich handlers and keepers already have too much blood on your hands. Pull out of Iraq and redeploy.
If President Bush and the Republicans in Congress want to keep their illegal war going then they should start sending their cowardly republican chicken hawks or their yellow college republican sociopaths to fight their illegal unconstitutional wars.


We have 36 other nations fighting with us in Iraq? The surge is working? It would be bad if someone toppled Iraq's government (again?)? Iraq has a working government? Exactly what dream world is Bush living in? Seriously, does this man suffer from dementia? The Tribune editorial staff really needs to sit down and diagnose this speech and then demand that Bush be removed from office based on his mental incapacitation.


The entire speach was insulting. He must really think the American People are stupid.

I guess at least 33% of them are; that is the percentage that think Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

It is probably the same percent that watch fox news.


"As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."---H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920


. . . and insult our troops by calling their commander traitor and liar.
Posted by: point
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OK, now I'm beginning to understand the riight, they're completely bonkers.
I have nothing but praise and support for our troops, and nothing but contempt for our lying traitor-in-chief. They are two completely different entities. Why is the right incapable of telling the difference?


Bruce Y asks

Why is the right incapable of telling the difference?


Short answer: They are stupid.

Long answer: They are told what to say by the right wing message machine. They don't think about what they say, they just parrot the talking points they are told to.

Not only that, but they have a very short memory. Remember what they were saying about Clinton when he was President? Well, they don't.

I didn't like Clinton much, but compared to Bush he was an excellent President.


You call this success? Next year we will have 130,000 troops in Iraq. That is just where the "surge" started. We have more dead, more wounded, more crippled, and spent more billions and are back where we started and Bush calls this success. Are you all crazy?


Again, without Bush having a plan to ACHIEVE success, promises made on that success are just more of his lies.

If I win half a billion $ in the lottery, I'll give you all a bright, shiny quarter! How's that?


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