Cheney, and Bush, hit the road for war strategy

Like his policies or not, Cheney is a guy I would pay to go hear. Unlike most of the wimps on the circuit today, he speaks his mind, does it with passion, and adds to the dialogue. Plus, he's unquestionably smart. Maybe it's not too late for the
Republicans to run him as president. Would that ever make for a great debate between him and Hilly or B.O.

An extraordinarilly dishonest man out practicing his trade.

Air Force II should stay put.

We're wasting enough fuel in this country.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/?source=whitelist

Smarmy chickenhawk Cheney has emerged from his secret undisclosed location. He will be out with the lies, misrepresentations and deception about Iraq. The majority of American people who are open minded and objective will reject what he says out of hand.

As a "yellow dog" Democrat, I am delighted to see Cheney out there talking to friendly military audiences. He draws attention to the failures of the "warrior mice" of this administration. His disdain for the truth is shown to a wider audience as he campaigns.

And these two clowns will travel around the country telling more lies to carefully controlled audiences.
And the press (television, radio and print) will gladly report the scripted, edited snippets as if there is nothing but truth contained therein.

Walter, and the rest of the Loony Left braindead, here is liberal icon journalist Bob Woodward, reporting that Tenet told Bush, the intelligence that Saddam had WMDs was "A SLAM DUNK."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/18/woodward.book/

The Salon and Clintoon surrogate Sydney Blumenthal have no credibility. I'll Bob Woodward's reporting, thank you. He has a pretty darn solid track record, eh?

By the way, Cheney rocks!! He rocks the most simply because he drives you Loons nuts!!

Hampton,

Oh yeah, definitely the GOP should nominate Cheney -- the only person in DC with approval ratings lower than his "boss." (And for good reason). Bring it on.

I posted this quote on another thread, but I thought it would apply here as well.

"As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

Johnny D:

Just like your hero, George W., you like to cherry pick your quotes.

What Blumenthal has been saying is DIFFERENT than the slam dunk - he is talking about another time when Bush told him he was wrong about Saddam not having WMD's. Tenet's "slam dunk" comment was to be used to convince the American people that he had them.

But since you want to quote Woodward from 3 years ago, you omitted some other quotes from the article:

"The book also reports that in the summer of 2002, $700 million was diverted from a congressional appropriation for the war in Afghanistan to develop a war plan for Iraq.

Woodward suggests the diversion may have been illegal, and that Congress was deliberately kept in the dark about what had been done."

How about Bushnac, the magnificent??

"Woodward quotes Bush as saying he did not feel the need to ask his principal advisers, including Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell, whether they thought he ought to go to war because "I could tell what they thought."

But he said he did discuss his thinking with Condoleezza Rice, his national security adviser.

'I didn't need to ask them their opinion about Saddam Hussein. If you were sitting where I sit, you could be pretty clear. I think we've got an environment where people feel free to express themselves,' Bush is quoted as saying"

So then why not let them express themselves??

"Two days after the meeting with Bandar, on January 13, Bush met with Powell in the Oval Office to inform his chief diplomat that he had decided to go to war.

'You know you're going to be owning this place?' Powell is reported as telling Bush, cautioning him that the United States would be assuming the responsibility for the postwar situation.

Bush told Powell that he understood the ramifications, Woodward said."

Like hell he did. That is why we are still there.

John D.,

Your choice of supporting data is from 2004! Over three years old, and woefully outdated. Might I suggest you look into Woodward's newer book, "State of Denial". Perhaps this link will give you a better clue.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/28/60minutes/main2047607.shtml

"There are none so blind as those who will not see"

Since the video of Cheney accurately predicting the results of an occupation of Iraq surfaced, one can only speculate on the true agenda of the administration. You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see evidence of many conspiracies.

By the way, Cheney rocks!! He rocks...
Posted by: John D | September 14, 2007 9:44 AM

Talk about someone who should seek professional help.

Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney seem to have a lot in common: they will say anything, from the mildly disingenuous to the patently false, to fool others into supporting their selfserving goals.

Cheney is clearly a sociopath, but Clinton might be more dangerous in that her rhetoric can seem plausible. Probe Cheney and you uncover lies; probe Clinton and you find her void of substance and shy on integrity.

Cheney says we're succeeding in Iraq; Clinton says she will "end the war." Is either assertion is likely to prove valid? Not on your life.

Paul and Bobin, I have seen interviews of Woodward over the years, he stands by the "slam dunk." In fact in Tenet's book he discusses telling Bush that, though in Washington weasily ways, he tries to backtrack and jump through hoops to say he meant "slam dunk" in another way.
Also, Tenet was not referring to "slam dunk" in reference to selling it to the American people.

And Paul, your link proves nothing about the slam dunk contention made in Woodward's book. Your link is solely about Woodward's contention that the Bush administration has been less than truthful about the number of attacks in Iraq.

This debate is about what Tenet reported to Bush. And it just wasn't Tenet. All intelligence agencies, from British to UN to French to Italian to even Vladimir Putin himself, telling Bush and the U.S. that Iraq had WMDs and that Iraq planned on coordinating attacks on th U.S. with terror groups.

Maybe this will help:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5238640/

Hey John D - what's your opinion of this article?

http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0330nj1.htm

This slam dunk discussion is stupid. The final decision to go to war was made by Bush. If it was me, or any normal person who was going to risk lives, I would have completed much more extensive evaluations with people who were not "Yes men". Yes, Tenent was a "yes man". As history tells us, that was not done and the war went very badly. I'm sure Bruce can explain how to shift the blame to someone else, like we are seeing this administration and conservatives do.

Dumb Dumb EvilPoet, your link doesn't prove anything except the Loony Left has lost all grasp of reality. The fact is many people, including some of your ilk, believed Iraq had WMD. But being a part of the Loony Left means you live in denial. Now go back to your mummy and daddy's basement before you get grounded. The Loony Left truly is the worst mankind has to offer.

How very retro of you, parrot D. Like I always say, credit where credit is due: Very well done! Your post is 100% buzzword-compliant and your signal-to-noise ratio totally sucks. According to the Rovian handbook of debate that is the way it should always be. Your handlers will be very proud of you I'm sure. Heckuva job! :-)

Yours in offtopicness,
EvilPoet

Why does the Veep rate a military greeting when he isn't in the chain of command?

First, thanks to the troops for a job well done. Keep fighting the good fight.

Second, a great job to VP Cheney by doing what he believes is right for the country and not necessarily his approval ratings.