Democratic disarray gives GOP Florida headstart

Now if the Democrats will just boycott California and New York, the game will be on.

Howard Dean needs to go!

Any political party that wants to count hanging chads,dimpled chads and pregnant chads for months, so they can try to win an election they truly lost in 2000... Deserves this!

RUDY IN 2008!

Paulo

"KEN MELHMAN, KARL ROVE, KATHERINE HARRIS GOP BARBECUE" TICKETS ARE ALREADY ON SALE.

TOM DELAY IS THE GUEST SPEAKER, AND NEWT GINGRICH WILL BE SPEAKING TO BROKE COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PAY BACK THAT STUDENT LOAN.

KATHERINE HARRIS WILL BE GIVING ALL DAY CHRISTIAN EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE CLASSES TO ALL REGENT UNIVERSITY POSSIBLES.

DEMOCRATS IN FLORIDA NEED TO DO ONE THING, FORGET THE PRIMARIES AND MAKE SURE THEIR VOTE COUNTS, BY COUNTING THEM AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN.

KARL ROVE IS JUST P OE D AND ANYTHING DARKER THAN HIS FOREHEAD IS A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TO HIS UNITED STATES AND BY SATANS HAND ALONE, HE WILL ERASE "THE BROWN VOTE" IN AMERICA.

JUST CALL THE SUPREME COURT AND ASK!

RUDY IN 2008!
Paulo

Posted by: Paulo | September 4, 2007 8:20 PM

Paula,
I hope the Repugs nominate Rudy Julieannie too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_90nRRoXK8

Yeah, like the Democrats in Florida are going to vote Republican in the fall.

The only people who will matter are the independents. Since they don't care who wins the primaries in parties to which they are not affiliated, this is not a big issue.

A big issue is CA, where the Republicans are trying to undermine the Constitution of the United States again by letting a referendum instead of the state legislature determine how the electoral college vote is divided.

Still no SWAMP article to address this, the biggest political issue of the young century.

Get your head out of the sand Mark, etc.. CALIFORNIA. Where the next president of the U.S. will be decided.

Let the republicans take Florida. Let's see who steals the primary.

This being a Swamp article, the reporter talked to Democrats about this, but not to any Republicans.

I'm sure that Republicans would have had some choice comments about how the national Democrats have taken the vote away from Florida Democrats. Too bad Swamp reporters don't talk to Republicans.

Paulo:

Your party should watch out what they ask for,,,they just may get it!

Kudos to the Dem candidates and Howard Dean in stopping this race to the bottom.

I've told you liberal Dems are elitists it's our way or the highway with stealing votes from Gator delegates.
GOP wakeup just campaign and put aside the rule books. Dems remember like to say no smoking, no weight gain just have abortions that's all right it's our sacrament. Jerry White, Springfield, IL

Amen to what Carol said: Howard Dean needs to go! And Donna Brazile, too, while we are at it. How insane and clueless can the DNC be to disenfranchise millions of innocent registered Democratic voters for something that the Republican-controlled legislature did? This can only serve to hurt and disgust loyal, long-suffering FL Democrats enough so that, tragically, some will decide to stay home from the polls. But I beg of any Democrat reading this, please do NOT allow the asaninity of the DNC to keep you from the polls on 1/29/07! Let's turn out in RECORD NUMBERS and send a message to the DNC that we are a huge, energized voting base that CANNOT be ignored or disenfranchised from participating in the process! There is an extremely important amendment to the constitution that must be DEFEATED on the ballot, so please turn out and vote against the property tax amendment. But also, please vote for the Democratic primary candidate of your choice. Do not let the fact that Howard Dean is, was, and always will be a tone-deaf idiot keep YOU from the polls. All that would do would be to advance the Republican agenda, which hurts us all.

Bud, it's funny that you claim that Republicans are trying to "undermine the constitution in California" while the Democrats in both houses of the North Carolina tried to do the exact same thing (change election laws so that electoral votes are distributed proportionally). The plan nearly passed until Howard Dean realized what WOULD happen in California if the North Carolina dems got away with it and put the kibosh on it.

If the North Carolina democrats got their way, they would have gained maybe 4 electoral votes. If the California GOP got the EXACT SAME THING (proportional distribution of electoral votes) in their state, Republican presidential candidates would stand to gain at least 20 electoral votes. It's funny when you little weasels get caught in your traps.

Here's a link with the full story on how Howard realized his party's zeal for more electoral votes from red states would ultimately doom the democrats to losing California. Too bad somebody didn't think this one all the way through before they started it, eh?

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352405342&path

P.S. It doesn't look like they've thought through this Florida primary mess, either.

Bud, I've heard this argument before, and it is not true. The US Constitution states: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress."
However, the California Constitution (the document which constrains and directs the state legislature) specifically provides for initiatives and referenda. Those ballot measures need only secure a majority of votes and they become law, just as any measure enacted by the legislature and signed by the governor. I'm not a fan of legislation via ballot box, because of the potential for bad, shortsighted laws to get passed. But it is legal and it is consitutional for each state to determine its electors for President using any method allowed by that state's constitution. Doubtless, you disagree with my interpretation, and it is likely that, if the California initiative were to be enacted, it would face a challenge in federal court and would likely end up before the SCOTUS.

This just in, it looks like the Michigan democrats are thumbing their noses at the national party, too. They just announced that they want to move their primary up, too.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RETN981&show_article=1&catnum=0

Donna Brazile has to go. As a registered Dem in Bradenton, I can assure you that I will be voting Republican down the line in 2008. She wrote an article in the Washington Post last week "How I stood Up to Florida" It was badly written and made no sense. The real issue is how Florida is stading up to the Dem Party.

I need to respond to the comment by my fellow Democrat, Bob Dolan, who said:

"Donna Brazile has to go. As a registered Dem in Bradenton, I can assure you that I will be voting Republican down the line in 2008. She wrote an article in the Washington Post last week "How I stood Up to Florida" It was badly written and made no sense. The real issue is how Florida is stading up to the Dem Party."

Bob, while I TOTALLY understand your feelings and share them about the DNC and Donna Brazile, please don't respond by voting Republican! Don't let the clueless idiots currently at the helm at the DNC play right into the Republicans' hands. What is at stake for our state and the nation is just too great. Please go to the primary on 1/29/07 and vote your DEMOCRATIC conscience. Your vote WILL count on the important issues on the ballot. As for the presidential primary, I have to believe that sanity will prevail and our delegates will be restored, thus making our votes count, but even if not, we need to turn out in record numbers and send a message that we will NOT be disenfranchised. Bob, like you, I'm a lifelong, loyal Democrat who is very hurt and outraged over this action by the DNC (and the tone-deaf, asanine comments of Donna Brazile ever since then). It would be very easy and logical for me to become alienated at the party as a whole and "throw the baby out with the bathwater", as the saying goes. But that would, again, play right into Republican hands and at a time when the country really needs the Democratic party agenda and candidates to be put forward. Please turn out to the polls and vote Democratic. Don't throw out the baby (the Democratic party and everything good that we stand for) with the bathwater (the current team of IDIOTS at the DNC!).

I can't wait to see Sen. Larry Craig campaigning hand-in-hand with Mark Foley for Florida's Republican politicians!

Here's Donna Brazile's op-ed piece. Read for yourself:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/31/AR2007083101427.html