'No magic switches to flip in Iraq,' ambassador says: The Swamp
The Swamp
Posted September 12, 2007 9:53 AM
The Swamp

by Mark Silva

At the National Press Club this morning, after two arduous days of testimony on Capitol Hill, Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker faced a roomful of reporters at a crowded press conference with Petraeus threatening another opening statement about his report.

“I’ve tried very hard to get my opening statement down to 25 minutes….. and you thought I was serious,’’ said Petraeus at the start of the presser, showing a humorous side and breaking the ice. Actually, he was here with “my diplomatic wing-man’’ and ready for questions.

The questions, with Petraeus and Crocker standing before flags posted in a high-ceilinged paneled lounge of the press club while protesters stationed outside on the downtown street chanted and marched, started with the significance of the fight in Iraq.

“We believe al Qaeda-Iraq is off balance,’’ Petraeus said. “The central front of al Qaeda’s global war is in Iraq… Their freedom of maneuver, their sanctuaries are considerably diminished in Iraq… They are much more on the run at any time that I remember than any time they have been in Iraq.’’

Asked about political reconciliation in Iraq – the missing piece of the puzzle by everyone’s estimate – Crocker said: “The reconciliation in Iraq… has to be managed by Iraqis, reconciling with each other… It’s hard. It’s hard because of Iraq’s rule under Ba’athist reign (for decades)… It’s hard because of the sectarian violence that has spread through Iraq from early ’06 to early ’07. It is going to be a long, difficult process.’’

“There are no magic switches to flip in Iraq – not on reconciliation, not on the other hard issues,’’ Crocker said.

Petraeus also made it clear today that he was not fielding political questions. To one particularly pointed query about the competence of political leaders in Washington, the general said with a laugh :“I’ve spent the last 33 years trying to find my way around minefields rather than going through them.’’

Petraeus was pressed about his sense of the political mood in Washington, and whether he senses declining political patience for the war -- and he was asked about the MoveOn.org newspaper ad this week that called him "Gen. Betray-us.''

"I was sent a poem by Rudyard Kipling actually the morning that ad came out by an old friend,'' he said. The poem: If.

"It might be worth looking at,'' he said. "I took some strength… from that.''

(" If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too...' Kipling wrote.
...."Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - -which is more -- you'll be a Man, my son!'')

"Needless to say,'' Petraeus added, "I disagree with the message'' of some who are exercising a freedom of speech for which the American military has fought for years to defend. But again, he'd take a pass on his political reading of Washington.

"There is a lot of frustration – that’s frustration that we who are serving in Iraq are facing every day,’’ Crocker said. “I really come away from these two days somewhat encouraged. Amidst the frustration there were a number of thoughtful and probing questions.''

Facing today's questions, Petraeus adamantly rejected a suggestion that the drawdown of 30,000 forces by mid-July which he is recommending would have happened anyway as a result of troops reaching the ends of their 15-month deployments.

"I could very easily have requested…. replacements,''' he said, and that includes for Marines who are leaving later this month. "We are coming out quicker than we had to… If you had run every brigade in Iraq… for 15 months… we would not have had to take one out until April,'' he said, noting that the brigade he is withdrawing in December is not a surge brigade.

“Yes, the surge forces were scheduled to go home between April and July,'' he said, "But again, I could have requested more surge forces... It’s just a little bit unfair, but also inaccurate, to say that what we’re doing is letting this thing run out.’’

Petraeus, asked why he cannot set a timeline for troop withdrawals beyond the mid-2008 target he has set for a drawdown to “pre-surge’’ force levels, said: “Just in the past six months, really events we would not have predicted…’’ have unfolded with regional successes. “There are areas where we have been surprised by the rapidity of activity.

“I think it is prudent to avoid predicting, getting locked into something that carries you way out beyond that you cannot with confidence see,’’ Petraeus said in the same calmness and matter-of-factness that characterized his two days of testimony before the House and Senate.

“The challenge is for Iraqis to move it from violence in the street into Parliament,’’ Crocker said. “That’s why the surge is so important. Violence has clearly got to be brought down to a level where political debate can take place… As security starts to take hold, it is kind of interesting, if you are out in the streets, where maybe a couple of months ago the first thing people would tell you was they have to have security, they are now taking that as sort of a given and saying, where are the services?’’

The number of provisional reconstruction teams has grown from 10 to 25, Crocker said. “That’s important, because Iraq’s got the money, what it has to be able to do is execute budgets... and we’re seeing improvements.’’

“If your government is delivering services for you, you’re going to feel a lot better about your government… It also works in Baltimore.’’

Petraeus insists that the surge is making room for political reconciliation. He said what happened in Anbar province “is in effect political – that’s what we’re trying to do – to get the locals to oppose the extremists…. ‘’

Yet, for any gains made in the western Anbar province, the general was reminded, the situation is far different in the southeast of Iraq, where the British have withdrawn forces to one base and where local militias and parties are fighting. He said he could not envision anything more than perhaps some U.S. special operations forces helping with the situation there – not an infusion of troops. “Right now, there is actually quite a low level of attacks… and has been for months now,’’ Petraeus said.

“I think we’re in a wait and see approach with Basra, but we have every expectation that Basra will be resolved by Iraqis,’’ Petraeus said. For now, he said, the goal is “to keep the situation one in which they are shouting rather than shooting.’’

Asked about Iran’s involvement in Iraq, Petraeus said, “It certainly has contributed to a sophistication of attacks.’’ He points to 240-mm rockets being used – “there’s no question where they are coming from.’’

If so much success can be attributed to an escalation of U.S. forces, Petraeus was asked, how will Iraq fare with the drawdown he proposes. The key, he said, lies in Iraqis stepping forward to take charge of security.

“Nowhere is this illustrated better than in Anbar… We banged away in Anbar for years, and disrupted and disrupted and cleared and were not able to clear… Now we have been able to clear… because their young men, emboldened by the public opposition to al Qaeda’’ are volunteering for security services to keep al Qaeda out. “That’s an enormous revolution.

“This is an ethno-sectarian competition for power and resources,’’ said Petraeus, employing eight words for what others call a civil war.

A Marine expeditionary force of a few thousand will be withdrawn later this month, he said, with confidence that the turnover of authority that he envisions nationwide in Iraq is taking place in Anbar province.

“That’s what thickens our capabilities and the capabilities of the Iraqi security forces,’’ Petraeus said.

Petraeus also was asked about his reply to a senator’s question about whether the U.S. military mission in Iraq is making the United States safer – “I don’t know,’’ Petraeus had replied at the Senate hearing.

“What I was trying to do yesterday was avoid being more than the MNF-I (Multinational Forces-Iraq) commander,’’ Petraeus said. “I’m not the National Security Adviser, don’t write the national security strategy…’’ But, having said that, he added today: “Achieving our national interests in Iraq, however, is very important. Those interests do link to the overall strategy of our country…. And do make our country safer.’’

Petraeus was asked if the U.S. military commitment to Iraq is “open-ended,’’ as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cal.) complained about the plan which Petraeus has outlined yesterday outside the White House.

“I did not say that there is an open-ended commitment… What I outlined is recommendations that will take us to mid-July,’’ said Petraeus, adding that “how gradual or rapid’’ the drawdown is beyond that “depends on conditions… That’s what any responsible military commander – if you were in my shoes, I think you would recommend the same thing.’’

They were asked about retired Marine Gen. James Jones’ assessment that it will take the Iraqis at least 12 to 18 months before their security forces can take full responsibility – and if the U.S. should expect to see more than 100,000 of its own forces in Iraq for at least five more years.

“I wouldn’t hazard a guess on that,’’ Petraeus said. “It is very difficult to project out much beyond the horizon… of mid-July next year.’’

Questions remain about how the Iraqi military is deployed – whether with bases or in expeditionary forces, he said, and the uncertainties involve logistical matters as mundane as warehousing of supplies.

“It’s an enormous challenge when you are literally starting it up from scratch,’’ Petraeus said. “Having said that, there are numerous places in the country, entire provinces, that are under Iraqi control.’’

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Wow, so they've been looking for "Magic Switches?" Maybe that is why Bush/Chenney wanted to attack Iraq: to find Magic Switches! Bush probably really wanted to find a Magic Flying Carpet too!

Lets not forget the neverending search for a Genie trapped in a bottle. Saddam was clever, he must have hid the Magic Switches, Magic Flying Carpet and the Magic Bottle containing a Genie in the same place he hid the WMD!


Obama wants us to leave Iraq NOW. I say NOT now, Obama. Now that the military option is working, we need to help them settle their political quagmire and then we leave.

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"I've made it clear to the Prime Minister and Iraq's other leaders that America's commitment is not open-ended. If the Iraqi government does not follow through on its promises, it will lose the support of the American people -- and it will lose the support of the Iraqi people. Now is the time to act. The Prime Minister understands this. Here is what he told his people just last week: "The Baghdad security plan will not provide a safe haven for any outlaws, regardless of [their] sectarian or political affiliation."

"A successful strategy for Iraq goes beyond military operations. Ordinary Iraqi citizens must see that military operations are accompanied by visible improvements in their neighborhoods and communities. So America will hold the Iraqi government to the benchmarks it has announced."

President George W. Bush January 10, 2007.

So, it appears that the President was lying to the people of the United States yet again. Our commitment to Iraq is open ended. We will not hold the Iraqis to the benchmarks it has announced.


I missed all but the last few minutes of the press conference and appreciate your report.


I missed all but the last few minutes of the press conference and appreciate your report.


Apparently we need Doug Henning as the Commander in Iraq and David Copperfield as Ambassador. That should do the trick.
Give me a break!


Nisleib, are you that ignorant and so full of hate to take a metaphor and twist it like you have?
The general and Ambassador Crocker have been very forthcoming and candid, regardless of what the Democratic Loons, Moveon.org Loons and other Lefty Loons have to say. They know what they are doing. Let them do it.


A lie remains a lie, no matter how often it's repeated. Sadly, most people can be convinced a lie is the truth when they hear it often enough.

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Twinkies are health food.
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Ummm - I'm hungry, and trying to eat healthy - got any Twinkies?


This Ryan Crocker is a joke. The man is stiff, stoic, and untruthful. What an embarassment this tool is!! In my opinoin, he had nothing new to say. Tell me something I don't know. All his answers seem scripted and rehearsed. Now he's talking about magic switches?? Wow.


John D - Lighten up man, it's a joke.

Besides, you say they know what they are doing, the good General yesterday admitted this entire fiasco in Iraq wasn't making America any safer. You know, if he could say it was, he would have. He also admitted that regardless of what is happening on the ground they will have to take out 30,000 troops by next summer or risk destroying the US military.

It isn't his fault. Generals don't set policy. They attempt to complete missions, that is all. General Wesley Clark had the same problems in Kosovo. He wanted Apaches and ground troops, and Clinton said no. Clark couldn't admit it though, Generals answer to the President. The same thing is going on with Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL). They don’t have near the force structure they need to do any good in Iraq, they never have. They can’t say that though, at least not while they are still in the military.


NOT a single soul that is posting on this site is in Iraq right now. So what do you know other than what you read or hear (usually one sided) that is going on in Iraq? Your opinions on this matter come from personal feelings on the war/invasion and that is it!

The men briefing Congress the last couple of days, live there. They see and hear first hand what is going on and know what is best for the US and Iraq.

Neither of these men want US soldiers dead, but this is what those men and woman sign up to do, fight and die for their country! Talk to the soldiers there, yes, they miss home, but they also believe in what they are in Iraq for and will stick it out til the end. They know this is a civil war, and they are happy to be taking part in Iraqi history.

The Ambassador speaks with the people in Iraq, and knows what the majority of them want and what they need.

I want our troops out just as much as the next guy, but it has to be done properly.

Yes, expectations of the Iraqi government to make progress on the benchmarks it has promised need to be stepped up, and a timeline for them to become more self sufficient should be immediate or there should be consequences.

But nobody can say that these two men are lying as you are not there to see firsthand what is going on! And to suggest that they are going to continue to keep our troops there for no reason or just because, is just plain crazy!

It will be over when it can be, but I am in agreeance, that it is not soon enough!

I have several family members in Iraq, I speak with them regularly, and they all feel that sticking it out for a few more years if necessary will make for a much stabler middle east! That is the consensus of the real soldiers!!


Petraeus and Crocker's "exclusive" interview on Fox Monday night pretty much completely blows what little credibility they may have had that they gave an honest assessment.


John D,give it a rest with the loon this and the loon that.Your immaturity is repulsive.


Steve, please explain how their appearance with Brit Hume on Fox News blows away their credibility? What, because it was on Fox News? Sorry, not factual, except in the alternative reality world of the Loony Left.


Bella,
You are assuming that if we stay longer, the Middle East will be more stable. And frankly who gives a damn if the Middle East is stable or they are all killing each other. Is this war making us safer? That is the only question that needs an answer.


Bella,
Not true for every soldier in or just leaving Iraq. My son is an officer in the USMC his thoughts are: he has no trust that the people we’re training today are not going to be the people their fighting tonight. Also as an officer his concern is the strength of the military. As you say just stay a couple of years, that’s fine but you better come up with a longer term solution than the current recruitment program and figure out how you can retain the current soldier. Because what were doing is not working! That is the reason we’re reducing forces.

I respect what you say just don’t generalize that all the service men and women currently deploy or return feel the same way


Bella,

blah, blah, blah .... our people in Iraq & Afghanistan are fighting and dying for NOTHING - unless you count enriching Halliburton & those who profit from oil revenue. Oh, and providing Satancheney's daily dose of human blood. The so-called "Islamic Leaders" (I say it that way because they have defiled Islam themselves with their pig-sh*t politics) do not believe in democracy - never have and never will. They believe that a few selected pig-clerics should subjugate everyone, especially women, and command them to die if they don't live by 6th century rules. They have, themselves desicrated their ancient and honorable religion. The God of Islam is the God of Mohammad, Jesus, Isaac & Abraham. Democracy? It won't happen. Anyone who thinks these pig-clerics will allow anything close to democracy or decency is fooling herself.

It's a heart-rending tragedy that our good people are being sacrificed for Satancheney's blood lust and Bush the Inferior's stupidity and ego.

Bring our people home!



Jethro-
As long as the Middle East remains an unstable area, the US is always at risk for threats and attacks. It would be nice to have a few more allies in that region.

Perhaps stablizing Iraq will not make this country a safer place, as we are currently experiencing a chilly relationship with Russia. But it does give the people in that country some hope for their future. But I can see that you, like a lot of Americans, only care about yourself, not thinking that it directly affects you either way!

I am just saying that pulling out immediately is not a good idea, but strategizing a withdrawl to take place within the next 24 months is a much better way to go.

Brian-
Yes, I should not be speaking on behalf of all soldiers. A salute to your son! I wish him a safe return home, and thank him for his courage and honor for serving his country.


Snalg-
here here! I agree, I really do, but you have to consider how long it will take to get out of that area. With great planning, it will still take at least a few years, even if we started withdrawing tomorrow.

In the meantime, study Middle Eastern history a little better...the majority of the Middle Eastern countries are very stable and peaceful after years and years of fighting. So there is a chance that you just might be wrong there.


Bella,

I apologize for being overly broad. I was referring to Persia, Iran and Afghanistan. You are right and I was wrong to speak too generally.


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