Protesters give McCain best line at NRA gathering

I'll conceed that the Constitutions does state, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed", but where does it say you have a right to have bullets?

Awesome. They should start printing campaign materials with ""we beat you yesterday. We'll beat you today . . . And we'll beat you tomorrow!" on them.

Lucky it wasn't in fron of a democratic senator, she might have been tazed.

"I wouldn't vote for him for president," said Mark Dawkins, a patron NRA member from Winter Park, Fla. "I've felt that he has flip-flopped on the issues . . . But I agree with him on Iraq. The same people who come here and do this protest are the same people who would like to see our guns taken away from us."

I'm an NRA member and I wouldn't vote for McCain. I like him as a person though, and respect that he's standing up for what he believes in. I think he's totally wrong but...

Actually Terry, after that John Kerry episode with the Loony Left Attention Getter, I think the tazer should be used on all Loony Lefters! And they all should have to say, "Don't taze me, bro!!"
Just think of the fun!!!

It's so sad that an American hero has sold his soul to the wannabe president store.

Lucky it wasn't in fron of a democratic senator, she might have been tazed.

Posted by: Terry | September 21, 2007 10:56 AM

Way to make something partison...that isn't. What side of the aisle is your breakfast?

Who is the "you" that "they" beat?

"Who is the "you" that "they" beat?"

You are the ewe they beat.

Bob in the ATL, I believe the "you" McCain was referring to is Democrats trying to cut funding for the war effort. This protester seems like one of their supporters.

McCain's said several times he'd rather lose an election than lose the war and I think his comments show just how strongly he believes that.

The war in Iraq has proved the NRA to be right. The fact that the people of Iraq all have guns is what prevents us from conquering them. Let's hear it for more guns in America. Our freedom may someday depend on it.

John D.,

Think of the fun you and the rest of the GOP QWERTY Chairborne Commandos could have if you had ever served in the military and thus had some credibility to talk about Democratic veterans.

I'll keep playing the lotto though, that has a better chance of coming through.

Support the war and guns,sure to scare the hell out of normal Americans.

You already have the rednek vote!

Doug, are you somehow implying that Senator McCain, one of the most decorated veterans of the Vietnam war, does not have the credibility to talk about the war or "democratic veterans."

Wow. You have some chutzpah, my friend.

Are you referring to Kerry? I believe the earlier posters were referring to what happened at his speech and not anything that had to do with him or his service in Vietnam.

Now that I think of it, we should start distributing the materials to create IEDs to U.S. citizens. That would make the country even safer.

Anonymous,

Re-read my post and you will see how non-sensical your response was.

Posted by: John D | September 21, 2007 11:02 AM

As John D continues to provide living proof that he truly LIKES being "the Joseph Stalin of Streamwood".

I've got a question for you: "Who Would Jesus Waterboard?"

I do have a double standard on the "right to bear arms" issue. I grew up in a semi-violent near west side neighborhood in the 70's. There were lots of gunfire and a few dead bodies found in my Little Village/Pilsen neighborhood.

But my adult life took me to rural West Tennessee where people were responsible with their firearms. I rarely ever read about a crime committed with a gun in the local newspaper. When my neighbors came over and visited me at home, they sometimes had rifles or shotguns. I felt very safe with guns around me in the deep South.

Now that I'm back home in Chicago, news of gun violence is rampant throughout the media. I feel terrible every time some innocent is hurt or killed by gunfire.

So let's keep strict gun control in the major cities, but not in the Deep South or other areas of the country that act responsible with firearms.

IF anyone has stats on gun violence broken down by region, please bring them up to the forefront. I have always been willing to listen to both sides of this issue.

You see, Anonymous, Doug served in the late 1970s when nothing happened, so he is a military expert. McCain, who actually fought in a war and was a POW, is just a chickenhawk neocon. Even though the military is largely made up of Republicans, Christians and "red stater," they and us who never served are all chickenhawk neocons, or QWERTY fighters.

Even though the military is largely made up of Republicans, Christians and "red stater," they and us who never served are all chickenhawk neocons, or QWERTY fighters.

Posted by: John D | September 21, 2007 12:18 PM

That is such bull and you know it John. Prove it. Give me the link. Thats the biggest line of bull I've heard since "last throes".

"Let's hear it for more guns in America. Our freedom may someday depend on it."

Posted by: San Miguel | September 21, 2007 11:29 AM

So you feel you need to depend on "guns".

Silly me, I always try to depend on "people". What was I thinking?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070920/republicans-guns/

"STAGED EVENT" OR HE WASN'T BLACK AND JOHN MCCAIN WASN'T NEAR ANY COLLEGE STUDENTS."

I'M FOR THE 5TH AMENDMENT, I PROMISE. Just not right now guys, just right now, I'm under executive actionable order from the Commander Guy. BUT BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO...

JOHN MCCAIN WILL DO ANYTHING TO RESSURECT HIS OLD 74 YEAR OLD MEDICARE RECEIPIENT BUTT. HE IS WALMART MATERIAL ONLY!

SO WHAT IS THE PLAN, AND WHY NOT EXPLAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SOMETHING OTHER THAN Fillibuster, after Fillibuster, after I didn't vote, I didn't vote, Fillibuster, Fillibuster Fillibuster.

STATE THAT EVENT !

Senator McCain wanted to Cut and Run from Somalia. He gave a speech on the floor of the Senate introduces a resolution for a withdrawel. Not only that he proclaimed it would not be humiliating for us to leave. Our objectives had been achieved. Hypocrite.

So, Doug, answer the question: What do Kerry or other Democrat war heros have to do with any of this? Last I checked it was about McCain's response to a protester that interrupted his speech.

I guess that "well regulated militia" line is another part of the Constitution that these Republicans chose to ignore.

Steve 34;
I was raised in rural Southern California, yes there used to be such a thing, I got my first 22 rifle at age 10, and was allowed to go out into the fields with it, unsupervised. In the early 60s, I was a member of the NRA and owned eight guns. Then they were stolen in a burglary. I realized that they would most likely be used in future crimes and someone could lose their life to one of them. It was not a good feeling. I quit the NRA and have never owned or fired a gun since. I live in a rural area once again, in my old age. Most folks around here own guns. Many of them can't believe I don't own a gun, to protect myself and wife. I feel no fear from being unarmed. In fact I feel much more secure this way, so does my wife. If I owned guns, I would consider myself a potential target for another burglary. I make it a point to let all of my neighbors know that I do not own guns. The NRA had become an archaic and obsolete organization forty years ago, when I quit it. A bunch of gangsters and drug dealers, with stolen Glocks, is not a well organized militia. Neither are a bunch of farmers with shotguns. Even if they were, the would only be a frustration to any country which had the resources to land troops on American soil. What good would a well organized militia be against people flying airplanes into buildings?

John D.,

I have never referred to McCain as a NeoCon Chickenhawk.

My contempt is reserved for you and the rest of the GOP QWERTY Chairborne Commandos who trash the honor of Democratic veterans.

And John D., you are and continue to be - a liar.

John D.,

When I was uploading nukes on B-52s in the 1970s, what were doing?

Launching popped pimple warheads? Did you draw a little bull's eye on your your mirror and play make believe soldier?

The GOP QWERTY Chairborne Commando motto: I came, I saw, I typed.

Sorry, San Miguel, maybe I misinterpreted your post.

I have lived in and around Chicago and its suburbs all my life. I have never, nor do I ever plan, to own any kind of firearm.

And I have never felt un-safe because of it.

Doug, again, your point? What does John D or anyone's service have to do with what Senator McCain said about his support of the war? Or is this just a huge distraction to divert attention from McCain's great response to a protestor who at first glance doesn't look like she served in ANY war?

Anonymous,

I was responding to John D.'s post.

So, John D's not supposed to comment about the incident at the Kerry speech where the student got tazed because... John D. didn't serve in a war?

Okay. Have fun with that.

Oh Doogie, no lying by me.
Funny, that I never saw a response from you after you said that David Nitwitkin didn't say Bush was responsible for Jena, La. Hmmm, the headline says Bush says GOP has a platform to run on with black voters. Then the first line by Nitwitkin says, "Forget about Hurricane Katrina. Forget about Jena, La." Sorry, but by tying in all of that, the implication is very clear that Nitwitkin was lumping Jena as a Bush and GOP problem.
Speaking of liars, Doug, it's funny how you gleefully accept John E.'s lies about his "son" serving in Iraq and that he would be going there too, and my your silence you apparently gleefully accept your Loony Left brethren's Gen. Betrayus crap??
Or, Doug, is everything that doesn't fit into your belief system "a lie"??

BillR,

Making something partisan that isn't is the motis operandi of the quacks on the left.

John E. has a sock puppet son? Aww, it's so sweet when sock puppets reproduce.

Doug, you keep launching the missiles. Sorry, if I launch them back.

Anyway, what was I doing in the 1970s? Hmmm, going to school, getting an education, working to save up money for college (you see, I paid my own way through college, no help), and yeah I popped a few zits. But rather than popping them on the mirror, I popped them on loony lefties.

Hey Tom O,

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

See the commas, they are used to seperate items when listing multiple statements. If you want to ignore anything after a comma on the 2nd try doing that with one of the other ammendments. I added emphasis to PEOPLE so you would not glaze over or "ignore" it. The first 10 ammendments limit the power of the federal Government, not the people.

Besides I thought militia was a dirty word to liberals?

Janet - the right to keep bullets is guaranteed by the 9th amendment. Obviously you've never read that far into the bill of rights.

Perry - economic principles applied to gun ownership would indicate that the upstanding citizens who owned guns in TN were responsible for the low crime rate. Read John Lott's books for data.

Tom O - read about the Militia act of 1903 and you might be surprised to learn that you are part of the militia ... assuming your age and that you are able-bodied ... and male. Also read up on the latest research which shows that in the late 1700s, the term "well regulated" refers to something that functions as designed ... not government regulated as we use it too much today.

Steve 34 - read up on why the Japanese didn't invade California after their attack at Pearl Harbor: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-80616529.html or why the Germans didn't invade Switzerland (though outnumbering the swiss 2 to 1, the Germans knew that each armed Swiss would only need to leave their homes, shoot twice, and then return back to their homes.)

you don't need arms to protect you from the bad guys. The second amendment is there for the same reason we have the right to vote. It's a check retained by the people against government power grabs. Any review of the Bush administration or the recent congresses should assure you that they are trying to take more power than authorized by the people and the constitution.

Anyway, what was I doing in the 1970s? Hmmm, going to school, getting an education, working to save up money for college (you see, I paid my own way through college, no help), and yeah I popped a few zits. But rather than popping them on the mirror, I popped them on loony lefties.

Posted by: John D | September 21, 2007 4:49 PM

Must have had low admission standards at that college!

"Well-regulated" means to keep in good working order. We are a nation of armed Citizen Militia, based on the Swiss model.
Learn your history.

(janet wrote):
"I'll conceed that the Constitutions does state, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed", but where does it say you have a right to have bullets?"

(reply):
It's in the 2nd Amendment: It says "well-regulated", which means to be keep in good working order. Also it says "keep and bear ARMS". A gun without ammo is a stick. Unless it has a bayonet, then it's upgraded to a spear.

John D.,

Put yourself through high school did you?