Bob Jones University dean warms up to Romney

Oh charming.

This is like being warmed up to by Hitler Youth.

"Bob Jones University Dean Warms Up To Romney"

All Willard needs to do now is get Pat Robertson U, Oral Roberts U and Regent U in his corner and he'll have the big four of rightwing Evangelical Nutjob Institutions supporting him.

You know if the Romney campaign had the backbone to stand up and say "We don't want an endorsement from a devisive organization like Bob Jones University. This organisation promotes religious and racial intolerance, and that is not what this campign, or this nation, is about.", I might actually have enough respect for him to consider voting for him.

However, as he seems to be actively seeking the endorsement of that backward, prejudiced organisation, He beacomes the Republican I least want to see get the nomination.

Makes sense to me, the Mormons have never been too warm toward people of color.
Good match!

Hey Terry, Bruce, John D, Paulo, where are you to tell us of how proud you are to have a fine insttitution like Bob Jones University supporting your candidates?

What a surprise! One aptly named 'movement' Christian decides he likes a aptly named 'neo-movement Christian'.

Ooh, see the fire is sweepin♬
Our very street today
Burns like a red coal carpet
Mad bull lost its way♩

Clerical Fascism, its just a Inquisition away♬
Its just a thumb screw away♪

Setting; Dark Zentropa Station;

Sophie:
'But Colonel! We are good Christians!'

SS Col. Robert Taylor:
'Vee vill decide who ees a good Christian!'

Bob Jones University is wackier than all religions but David Koresch's enclave.

"... Bob Jones has been known as a rather extreme place. I mean, any of us in the Christian World understand that they are pretty harsh, you know. ... These people are pretty far out to the right. "

Why does Pat Roberston hate the Christians?

Mitt’s church, the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is often misunderstood by Evangelical preachers . . Some accuse the Church of not believing in Christ and, therefore, not being a Christian religion . .
http://mormonsarechristian.blogspot.com/ helps to clarify such misconceptions by examining early (First Century) Christianity's theology relating to baptism, the Godhead, the deity of Jesus Christ and His Atonement.

Mitt’s church believes in the Jesus of the New Testament, who prayed to his Father in Heaven in the Garden of Gethsemene, not the Jesus portrayed in the creeds of the 4th Century.
The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) adheres to Early Christian (New Testament) theology more closely than other Christian denominations. . Perhaps the reason Evangelical preachers promote this mis-representation is to protect their flock (and their livlihood).

Thank you Mr. Jones for believing in principles over criticism. Mitt is the right choice to lead this great nation of ours. He is a true christian because he lives a true christian life. Critics of Mormonism should seriously study the religion instead of making hate and unfounded remarks. thanks,
George

Back in the late 90's BJU criticized Falwell's Moral Majority for supporting conservative Catholic, Evangelical and Jewish politicians. Back then their argument was that he was in "fellowship" with "apostates". And now BJ wants us to support a Mormon?? Something stinks in Greenville, SC!

Aww, come on, NONE of the Republicans want to discuss this endorsement? None of them want to discuss how one of their front running candidates is actively courting this group? None want to defend Bob Jones University?

"Mitt Romney addressed the Republican Jewish Coalition presidential forum today in Washington."

Where was that meeting held - in a broom closet?

And I am sure that group just loves the fact that he is going to be endorsed by Bob Jones.

Unbelievable.

What does his being a "christian" matter anyway?

I'm sure the writer naively believes American is a "christian nation."

But if he/she cares to review the records of the Founders and actually read the Constitution, he/she will understand the error of his ways.

Religion in America is free precisely because the government has nothing to do with it.

In fact, it is the so-called Christian Bush that has been responsible for the deaths of a million innocent people and the repression of precious freedoms.

Lastly, the Mormons started as anything but Christians in the accepted sense.

They were a much-disliked cult with some very bizarre beliefs. They were driven out of town after town.

When civilization finally caught up with them out in Utah (with the march of the frontier) where they'd gone for isolation, the Mormons had to give up some of their more bizarre beliefs and started emphasizing their Christianity.

They also got rich selling land to new settlers, and rarely do rich people stck with cults, almost always embracing more traditional religion.

Bob Jones University is the odd place where the man who founded it bought submachine guns to guard his fortress during the social difficulties in the '70s. Some Christian institution.

Note: the word "Christianity" is generally capitalized because it is based on a proper name.

Bob Jones III endorsing a Mormon is actually surprising. I was having a discussion about this with someone earlier and didn't know Jones would do such a thing. His dad denounced Mormonism, and now his son is endorsing a Mormon. This seems like hypocrisy to me.

I am Christian and I feel that Christians such as Bob Jones III are hypocrites. He's a very nice man, I've met him before. As for this insane endorsement of Romney... It's HYPOCRISY!

Bob Jones University has never officially endorsed political candidates and that policy has not changed. In endorsing Gov. Mitt Romney for president, Dr. Bob Jones III and Bob Taylor are speaking personally. As private citizens, we all have the privilege and responsibility to examine the options and come to a choice of conscience. It is in this role that these administrators have chosen to endorse Gov. Romney. Dr. Jones III's and Dr. Taylor's statements reflect their views as private citizens and not the view of Bob Jones University as an organization.

Amber-

Presumably Dr. Bob Jones III and Bob Taylor share the same backwards devisive philophy that is taught at Bob Jones University. That makes Romney's pandering for their personal endorsement as objectionable to me as an official endorsement from the school.

Romney and Bob Jones III share one common point of history: both are affiliated with religious faiths that in our lifetimes doctrinally discriminated on the basis of race.

In 1970, Bob Jones University lost its federal tax-exempt status because of its prohibition against enrolling African-Americans.

Similarly, from the 19th century through 1978 -- including during the time Romney served as a missionary seeking new converts in France -- Romney's church discriminated against African-Americans as a matter of formal doctrine, prohibiting blacks from holding positions of church leadership or being ordained to the church priesthood (such priesthood being a requirement for "exaltation" in heaven, according to church teachings).

Bob Jones modified its racial prohibitions in the 1970's, finally dropping it altogether in the early 80's.

Romney's church dropped its racial prohibition in 1978.

If you bothered to read the article you would see that BJ didn't completely drop the policy but passed it off to the parents. The parents must give permission to date outside your race, if not, you may not date and the school will support your parents racism.

"Presumably Dr. Bob Jones III and Bob Taylor share the same backwards devisive philophy that is taught at Bob Jones University." In 1979-80 Dr. Jones III endorsed John Connally. In a campus primary, approximately 80% of the students voted for Ronald Reagan. Students and faculty members have their own minds. Considering the limited options on the Republican side, I'm sure they're busy deciding for themselves which is the least of all evils.

I do not have to support the speech of an organization or person in order to support their right to speak.

The criticism referenced by Mr. Silva in this article seems to decry conviction and castigate those with the courage to express those convictions. Unlike Mr. Silva, I support not only their right to freedom of speech, but I support the notion that even though I may disagree with their convictions, they are nonethless, convictions, and should be tolerated, if not respected.

I would respect Mr. Silva's convictions, had he the courage to have expressed them. Rather, the expressions referenced in this article seemed more personal than practical in nature. But, let's support Mr. Silva's right to free press, lest we become inconsistent practioners acting as though we have the market cornered on righteousness.

Silencing opposition usually begins with exageration and association...exagerating related to "out of context" reporting, and association in reference to whom one supports. Of course, this axe swings both ways, and cuts everything in its' path.

More to the point, I vote the man and his message, not the party or the platform. And I would expect that my rights to expression would be honored as I respect those who have blogged before me.

Bob Jones University has as much right to freedom of expression, without consequence, as Harvard and Yale. The pundents and politicos have every right to criticize, but at least BJU's stand seems to one of conviction, rather than convenience. So, even though I may not support their conviction, I support their right to believe and practice their faith. Would we really want to silence freedome of religion or expression.

Mr. Silva, I support your right to be wrong and I would hope you would support my right mine. I may very well be wrong, but I'm going to shout "I'm right," or "You're right" if I feel it so. Thank you for the chance to tell it the way I see it.

Mark Bartlett, Fenton, Michigan

Such vitriol from those criticizing supposed hate and hypocricy.
In several years on campus, I daily heard about honoring God and serving others, but never heard a racist word. I respect Dr. Jones' opinion and am glad to hear it.

I attended BJU as a student in 2001 and I was interracially married, with a baby on the way, and nobody had a problem with us. Everyone was very, very friendly. The things that were emphasized were politeness, standing up for what you believe in a world that hates Christ, being on time, not being rude to anyone, conservative, modest clothing, being organized and neat, etc. BJU isn't endorsing anything - the people on their own individual basis are asked to make their own personal decisions, and no single person is ever endorsed or pushed on the students ever. That would be like saying a libral, messed-up public university tells all their students they MUST vote for the most liberal and wayward candadate out there, or they can't attend the school. BJU says Catholicism is a cult because Catholicism has rituals and practices that tell you you can't get into heaven unless you are Catholic or do Catholic things. They even say that if you don't attend mass every week, you won't go to heaven. I know because I grew up a Catholic and anyone who doesn't believe me, should read the Catechism. Catholics even say that you can worship other things besides God, like saints, and Mary, and the only true church is the Catholic church. That's a cult. BJU says all that really matters is your pesonal relationship with Christ. That's a real Christian statement. About voting, most intelligent people believe if you can't have the perfect candidate in the running, then you should vote for the least damaging to the country. I would agree that even if we don't like everything about the candidates, we should still vote for SOMEBODY! And let's be rational for once: just because we vote for anyone, doesn't mean we believe they are GOD!

To those worried about BJU saying that you should be governed by your parents regarding marriage - would you be very happy if some other school said 'kids, do whatever you want, and don't listen to your parents, and we will support you?' Obviously not. BJU knows that the basic building block of the country is family - and family should come first. They are simply not placing themselves above the importance of family first, like so many other places in the wicked world today do. Broken families are everywhere today spreading pain like wildfire, and now you liberals think that our schools should support ignoring our family's decisions for our well-being?

Bob Jones Jr. was not the founder of the Bob Jones University.

The top priority of southern whites is whiteness. Christianity is just a cover. It is not very surprising that Bob Jones endorsed Mormon Romney but not Catholic Jindal. White skin is God..not Jesus Christ.

This is an open letter to Dr. Bob Jones, III and Dr. Robert Taylor.

Dr. Bob and Dr. Taylor,

Both of you are fine upstanding Christians that I have admired for many years. Dr. Bob you gave me my diploma in 2002. Dr. Taylor you serve well in Greenville county on the county council. I just do not understand why you would want to endorse a candidate like Romney or Gulianni.

Please recant your endorsement of Mitt Romney and take BJU, Greenville county, and South Carolina to a higher level of understanding of knowing that you are still fundamentalists, still standing strong and holding forth the Word of Life.

Thank you,
Wesley A. Pittman

I find it fascinating that "consevative" doesn't see the difference between legal adults (18+) continuing to be controlled by their parents and that of minors being controlled by their parents.

There is a difference - and it is huge. Don't willfully confuse the issue - you lose credibility.

And in response to the remarks of Mark Bartlett - you claim to support free speech, yet seem to feel that criticism of BJU is somehow not allowed as your remarks contradict each other.

Freedom of speech does not come with an equal portion of freedom from criticism. Say what you will, but don't whine later when others respond.

You can't logically claim be for free speech on one hand, while basically arguing through a thin veil that those criticizing said speech are somehow in violation of an unwritten rule that only allows one-way conversations where BJU is concerned.

You cannot expect to have it both ways and be taken seriously.

JOHN CHUCKMAN YOU NEED TO SHUT UP. THIS IS AN AMERICAN ISSUE. CANADIANS DO NOT GET A CHANCE TO GIVE WHAT THEY THINK!!!!!!!!!!

When it comes to who will be President the Psalmist says God is in control-- Psalm 75:4-7 (ESV) I say to the boastful, 'Do not boast,' and to the wicked, 'Do not lift up your horn;
do not lift up your horn on high, or speak with haughty neck.'" For not from the east or from the west and not from the wilderness comes promotion, but it is God who executes judgment, putting down one and lifting up another.

As a graduate of Bob Jones University, I am very disappointed with this endorsement by these two leaders of the school. At this early stage of the campaign, when a Fundamentalist Christian, Mike Huckabee, is in the running, why go for the Mormon? If Romney does become the Republican nominee, I will vote for him, but as long as The Christian, Huckabee, is still viable, he gets my vote. Just doesn't seem like good judgement for Jones and Taylor to have given their opinions this early.

Bob Jones University has the right to believe what they want to believe. They believe the Bible that says in Titus 3:4-6, "But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;" In believing what it says right there that that's the only way to get to heaven, they must not believe what other religions says, including Catholics and Mormons, who believe that you must do something, when the Bible says that all you have to do is believe. If you don't agree with them, leave them alone. They are leaving you alone.