by Mark Silva, and corrected
Should the presidential campaign of 2008 becomes a "subway series,'' pitting New York Sen. Hillary Clinton against former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the senator starts with a slight advantage in the Empire State.
A new poll of New York voters shows Clinton holding an 11-percentage point advantage over Giuliani in their home state. The survey by Quinnipiac University shows Clinton favored among 52 percent of the New Yorkers questioned and Giuliani 41 percent.
For more on the survey and how others might fare there, see the poll.
(With special thanks to our regular commenter, Bruce, who helped add two points to Clinton's advantage here today, noticing that we had swapped the 2 and 1 in the 52 and 41 percentage points.)





Comments
Giuliani would be toast agianst Clinton. Remember the 2000 NY Senate race bewtween the two? Giuliani pulled-out of that race because of cancer treatment; only to have his then mistress at his bedside instead of his wife.
That story should warm the hearts of the family values republican crowd.
Posted by: RomanB | October 3, 2007 9:10 AM
That story should warm the hearts of the family values republican crowd.
Posted by: RomanB | October 3, 2007 9:10 AM
Roman...you should know that they will continue to claim the moral high ground anyway. Even though every single one of the republicans involved with the Clinton impeachment was guilty of the same thing. Newt says good-bye to his wife while she's in the hospital, Hyde has his youthful indiscretion, and the party continues to run on the hypocrite platform.
Posted by: bill r. | October 3, 2007 9:23 AM
Game over. Ready the coronation. The media are happy. MorOn.org is happy. MediaMatters is happy. The Hillary war room is happy. Obama is sad. The Republicans are ecstatic.
Posted by: Aristide | October 3, 2007 9:28 AM
Clinton ran him out of town once,so this isn't shocking news.
Remember,Giglioiani's kids aren't even backing him!!!
Posted by: Raving Loon | October 3, 2007 9:37 AM
The poll was conducted by a university. We all know universities are full of left wing defeatocrats so the poll couldn't possibly be considered newsworthy. Also there's a "Q" in the university's name. We all know "Q"s are left leaning letters. And besides Quinnipiac is not an all-american name and probably means "terrorist" in another language. I'm sure Bruce will know and report on this later.
The election is more than a year away people. Could this poll even be considered relivent some thirteen months out?
Posted by: kg123 | October 3, 2007 10:00 AM
Clinton's Conundrum: If the Cubs face the Yankees in the World Series, does Clinton say she's a Cubs fan or a Yankee fan?
Posted by: Bud McFarlin | October 3, 2007 10:06 AM
Bill R., can you please provide some proof that "every" Republican involved in the Clinton impeachment was guilty of the same thing. And do you know what Clinton was impeached for? I'll tell you: he was impeached for PERJURY, obstructing justice, not sex.
But I'm curious, Lindsay Graham was part of the Clinton impeachment team, please show me his sexual dalliances.
And Loon, Edwards oldest child is supporting Obama.
Ron and Patti Reagan were not for their dad either. Big deal.
You folks are such silly nincompoops.
Posted by: John D | October 3, 2007 10:16 AM
Maybe I'm missing something, Silva. But it seems like this poll shows Hillary ahead by 11 points (52-41), not nine.
Posted by: Biggdawg | October 3, 2007 10:39 AM
Yes but who looks better in a dress?
Posted by: Paul | October 3, 2007 10:45 AM
Ron Paul is the only hope...
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Goethe
Posted by: marm | October 3, 2007 11:39 AM
Bill R., can you please provide some proof that "every" Republican involved in the Clinton impeachment was guilty of the same thing.Posted by: John D | October 3, 2007 10:16 AM
John, I will research and get back with you soon. However, this just underscores how you think. Two of the leaders of this impeachment are guilty of the same thing and you still can't see the hypocricy of it, and you have the nerve to say the looney left wouldn't know the truth if they saw it? If you would like to discuss PERJURY, then may I remind you that it didn't mean anything to you when Scooter Libby was guilty...of the very same thing.
Posted by: bill r. | October 3, 2007 12:20 PM
John D,I've never seen any info that would indicate Edwards daughter was backing Obama.
Please provide?
Posted by: Raving Loon | October 3, 2007 12:26 PM
I thought conservatives won the argument that purjury was no big deal. Does it apply to Scooter or Bill?
By the way, that leftie media newspaper "Wall Street Journal" yesterday wrote about how Republicans are just finding new ways to bury themselves instead of digging their way out of the hole they put themselves in.
Great article!
Posted by: RomanB | October 3, 2007 1:25 PM
Prominent in the poll, but unmentioned in the Swamp article, is that among NY Democrats Hillary Clinton has a landslide 32% edge (47% to 15%) over St. Barack (who as we all know is the most brilliant and eloquent politician alive).
Whatever St. Barack is selling, not even Democrats are buying it.
Posted by: Bruce | October 3, 2007 2:06 PM
In 2004 Democrat John Kerry carried NY by 58%-40% over Republican George Bush--an 18% margin.
This poll shows Hillary Clinton with an 11% lead (52%-41%) over Rudy Giuliani. (Side note: the fact-challenged reporter gets the numbers wrong in the above article)
This means Clinton is running 7% worse than John Kerry, who lost in 2004.
Good news for Democrats? Juist the opposite. This is good news for Republicans.
Posted by: Bruce | October 3, 2007 2:17 PM
The reality is that Gouliani is trying to milk 9/11 as the "hero of the hour". Frankly, any mayor in his position would have acted in the same fashion. He did nothing extraordinary, but saved his mayoralship which was, to New Yorkers prior to 9/ll, one laced with intrigue and scandal. He was an adulterer!
Does he know anything about foreign policy? NO!
Has he made any great social contribution? NO!
Was the city of New York run well under his administration. Many would argue NO - he was too busy with his mistress.
9/11 became his salvation as a political figure; otherwise, he would be holed up in some 5th avenue law office or altogether forgotten.
Frankly, who wants a person who uses the death of 3000 innocent lives to proclaim, "I can stop terrorism." He has absolutely no political or military or strategic credentials to even be in the race. And as for his wife - I don't think America is ready for a homewrecker as a First Lady
Posted by: the truth | October 3, 2007 2:27 PM
Bruce,
Guilliani is running better than Bush did in NY because he was mayor of NYC, which accounts for about half the states population. Nationwide, it's clear that the republicans are at a significant disadvantage compared to where they were at in '04. check the wikipedia article on opinion polling for the 2008 presidential election and look at the clinton-guilliani numbers. Barring some major unforseen event, Hillary has guilliani beat by a large margin nationwide.
Posted by: Ed Goldstein | October 3, 2007 2:58 PM
Home-state contest? I thought Hillary was born and raised in or about Chicago? Park Ridge, wasn't it?
After Hillary left Chicago, she was educated in Massachusetts (Wellesley), and then Connecticut (Yale), and then she went to live in Arkansas with Bill. Then she moved to D.C. when Bill became president.
Hillary moved to New York in time to meet the constitutional residency requirements to run for office, but with little time to spare. Up until then, she had lived the vast majority of her life outside of New York State.
And that make New York her home-state? That, I believe, is stretching things just a bit.
Posted by: John W. | October 3, 2007 4:33 PM
"In 2004 Democrat John Kerry carried NY by 58%-40% over Republican George Bush--an 18% margin.
This poll shows Hillary Clinton with an 11% lead (52%-41%) over Rudy Giuliani. (Side note: the fact-challenged reporter gets the numbers wrong in the above article)
"This means Clinton is running 7% worse than John Kerry, who lost in 2004.
Good news for Democrats? Juist the opposite. This is good news for Republicans."
All I can say is, what the f...?
Posted by: RomanB | October 3, 2007 6:07 PM
Thanks for the mention, Mark, but "biggdawg" caught your mistake first.
I'm still awaiting the job offer to become in-house Swampune fact-checker...
Posted by: Bruce | October 3, 2007 6:09 PM