by Frank James
Big kerfuffle over political commentator Ann Coulter's remarks on Donny Deutsch's "Big Idea" CNBC show in which she said essentially Jews should become Christians so they can become "perfected."
Media Matter for America has a critique of her appearance.
A few thoughts. Coulter's view is actually not uncommon among fundamentalist Christians. Coulter did accurately capture the manner in which many Bible-believing Christians interpret the New Testament.
In John 14:6 (KJV), for instance, Jesus tells his disciple Thomas "…I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me."
Another New Testament passage Hebrews 10:14 encapsulates Coulter's view.
"For by one offering, he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified," meaning those who accept Jesus as their "personal Lord and savior."
So while Coulter will get a lot of criticism as an anti-Semite, she will also get a lot of spiritual high fives from members of the Religious Right who believe with all their hearts that Jews must by definition become Christians to be "perfected."
This is not to defend Coulter. It's just to explain that her view is widely shared by millions of Americans, though they're a lot less outspoken than she is.
Meanwhile, Coulter accomplished her mission. Ever the publicity seeking bomb thrower, she is getting attention today for last night's appearance on the cable show which would've likely been ignored if it hadn't been for her comments about Jews.
Ironically, one of Deutsch's points was that Coulter earns a great living by being incendiary, that that's her what her very successful "brand" represents. She, after all, is the queen of the drive-by outrage. Then she favored him with a perfect example.
Even writing this, it's hard not to feel like I'm playing into Coulter's hands, that I'm in some way being an accomplice.
It's the same feeling I get about the media when a school shooting occurs and we have 24/7 coverage, which then contributes to some unstable teenager somewhere an idea that he too could become a major news story. And so it goes.

Comments
Bilblical quotes aside, mAnn Coulter is not a Christian by any definition. And neither are many of the rest of the Bible thumpers.
Posted by: chimpymcflightsuit'snavigator | October 12, 2007 11:57 AM
It was on the Donny Deutsch show, not Glenn Beck.
Coulter only preaches to the converted and is harmless.
Posted by: a blinkin | October 12, 2007 11:58 AM
It is an interesting situation when one of this ugly lady's less offensive comments stirs up so much reaction.
Ann Coulter leaves a long trail of genuine hate speech behind her. In America, as perhaps few other places, this is a technique to get yourself noticed and quoted.
Her regular output qualifies completely as hate-speech, much as that of pill-popping Rush Limbaugh.
The prominence of figures such as Coulter - and America has many of them - is not so much a reflection of free speech as it is an ugly level of public discourse and readiness of so many to laugh at what is hateful.
Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | October 12, 2007 12:06 PM
Good post Frank. I'm glad to read that you feel this way.
Now if we can only get Silva to get on board.
The "drive by" Media has been yelling "FIRE" in crowded movie houses for too long. No wonder we have so many angry lefties like John E. et al.
Posted by: JD | October 12, 2007 12:11 PM
Odd, isn't it, that this Christian "woman" has man hands and an adams apple.
Frank James is right, the media pays too much attention to Hate Mongers like Coulter.
Posted by: nisleib | October 12, 2007 12:13 PM
Talk about me good...talk about me bad...just talk about me.
Posted by: Bob | October 12, 2007 12:13 PM
Coulter should be ignored. It is the worst punishment that could be meted out to her. She only says outrageous things to get noticed. Cause its the only thing anyone would notice her for. Certainly not her intellect!
Posted by: athena | October 12, 2007 12:14 PM
Why do people keep putting her on the air?
Posted by: pastorjohn | October 12, 2007 12:14 PM
Whatever !
Posted by: flossmore | October 12, 2007 12:16 PM
"Bilblical quotes aside, mAnn Coulter is not a Christian by any definition. And neither are many of the rest of the Bible thumpers."
Posted by: chimpymcflightsuit'snavigator | October 12, 2007 11:57 AM
I honestly wouldn't know. Tell us all what the definition of "Christian" is please.
Posted by: secularly anonymous | October 12, 2007 12:16 PM
Which is worse, Coulter's comments or Columbia students cheering Ahmadinejad? The anti-Semitic Left is far more dangerous.
Posted by: ergo | October 12, 2007 12:16 PM
The thing I find most offensive about Coulter is she thinks she's hot. That's offensive to anyone's sensibilities. She's got that long face and her demeanor makes Hilliary seem sexy and fun. She's all about the $$$, will say anything for a profit. She needs to be ignored.
Posted by: kb | October 12, 2007 12:17 PM
I wish the media would just stop giving her any attention at all.
Posted by: Katie | October 12, 2007 12:17 PM
mAnn Cunter is not a church-going christian. She plays to the Christian right to score religious points.
Posted by: pcortega | October 12, 2007 12:17 PM
Miss Happyface strikes again.
Posted by: Tom | October 12, 2007 12:21 PM
Posted by: pcortega | October 12, 2007 12:17 PM
Hey, where's the moderator, here? SILVA!... hell-O??
Posted by: secularly anonymous | October 12, 2007 12:25 PM
"Odd, isn't it, that this Christian "woman" has man hands and an adams apple."
I'm glad we're discussing the substance of what she said here. Great comments about the drive bye media, though, Frank. To them all that matters is outrage and how much political cash it can be bilked for.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2007 12:25 PM
a. if you believe to be saved you must be christian, why is it offensive to wish others be christian - not force them but simply wish them to be?
Jewish advocates can never answer this satisfactorily and they are the only ones who get in a huff about it. Meanwhile, a chicago cardinal said, it was hypocrisy for jews to complain about this when their holy books call Christ a bastard and Mary a whore.
Posted by: me | October 12, 2007 12:31 PM
Funny how the so-called "liberal" media news outlets continue to give Coulter a platform to spew her hate, yet Michael Moore doesn't receive as much air time and few if any have heard of Ward Churchill. You would think it would be the other way around if the media truly were "liberal". Yet conservatives don't like to deal with these messy facts. They just shout opinions and that makes them facts and everyone else wrong.
Posted by: john | October 12, 2007 12:31 PM
As a big supporter of Coulter and a jew, I looked into this carefully, and here are my 2 cents --
I wish she'd leave Jews alone; I wish everybody did. If there wasn't one piece of news about Jews all year, good or bad, I'd be happy. It's an outlook shared by many Jews, in fact: no jewish news is good news.
On the other hand I can't applaud her when she talks freely about a subject, and criticize her when that subject is me.
So that brings us to the tiebreaker: did she speak as an antisemite? I claim to have a fine ear for that, but what she did sounds exclusively as proselitising -- trying to convert Jews (or anybody else) to Christianity. It's not something I'm particularly fond of, but evangelicals will do that to you as a matter of course, with the best intentions. I know a few of them and they are some of the greatest people you can hope to meet, so I accept the proselitising like a girl would take being asked out of the blue for a date: can't blame a guy for trying.
Posted by: trillium | October 12, 2007 12:31 PM
She has so much in common with Britney Spears--both are media hungry attention whores. Shame on anyone who gives her attention, the Tribune included.
Posted by: Amada | October 12, 2007 12:34 PM
Frank- you gave two very nice New Testament quotes as reasons for the Religious Right to applaud Coulter for her remarks on Donny Deutsch's show. However, all in all, it is apparent that she fails THE. BIG. test in life.
Posted by: Vivian | October 12, 2007 12:36 PM
Frank, I don't know why she ever makes the newspaper. My dog's opinion is more newsworthy. You are welcome to consult with him for your next post. (For the record, he makes no distinctions based on race, religion, or politics, but prefers people who play ball or scratch behind his ears.)
Posted by: Tom O | October 12, 2007 12:39 PM
Media Matters is Hillary Clinton's creation, she said so herself. Is it now your practice to use partisan web sites to fuel
your beliefs? That is a slippery slope.
Posted by: Joe D. | October 12, 2007 12:40 PM
How can it be that no one has commented that the two quotes by Jesus cannot be interpreted to mean that Jews should become Christian. Jesus was a Jew; born a Jew and died a Jew. Virtually no reputable New Testament scholar — in Christian seminaries and elsewhere — now views Jesus as trying to establish a new religion. Christianity developed after the death of Jesus. The quotes cited may well refer to Jesus' teachings, not to his being the son of God, which is a concept Jesus himself did not hold.
Posted by: Alan | October 12, 2007 12:41 PM
Although, I'm not Jewish, her recent comments were very tactless and its unfortunate that a lot of people take her seriously. Apparently she's all for the ethnic cleansing of society that was attempted in WWII by a certain German dictator.
Posted by: Mike | October 12, 2007 12:42 PM
I figure mankind has kind of screwed up the 'word of God' in the Bible through the ages anyway - with all the different translations etc, so I figure it stands some interpretation regardless. Since Jesus is supposed to be "God" and the Jews do in fact worship 'God' - isn't that basically the same thing? I refuse to sit and preach to anyone that they may be right or wrong. If their faith works to make them a better person, then so be it. Anne is WAY off on this one.
Posted by: Martin | October 12, 2007 12:44 PM
I think the Isreali Government should take her out with an F-15 strike.
Frank
Posted by: Frank V. Bialekf.bialek@sbcglobal.net | October 12, 2007 12:45 PM
You mean that's not a man? Wow!
Posted by: Confused | October 12, 2007 12:47 PM
The libs want "freedom" and "tolerance" for everybody but Christians and especially Catholics.
Good for Ann. THIS IS AMERICA. She has the freedom to say what she believes.
Nobodies like Rosie O'Donnell and George Clooney can say what they want against Christians and morality but a journalist like Coulter can't?
I'll go with Ann anyday over any of those liberal jerks.
Posted by: Rey | October 12, 2007 12:48 PM
Just like Rush Limbaugh , you listen to her tone of voice for five seconds and you can tell she is a horrible human.
Posted by: al montes | October 12, 2007 12:49 PM
There are people in this world who believe they can talk directly with a deity. They are the ones who start wars, etc. They are delusional, all of them.
Posted by: San Miguel | October 12, 2007 12:52 PM
Regarding a question above about what it means to be a Christian, anyone who's been to a few weddings would recognize the following Biblical lines from the book of 1 Corinthians: "Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance."
Interestingly, throughout this passage you can replace the word "Love" with "Jesus" and the word "it" with "he" and the passage retains the same meaning and truth. For those who call themselves Christians (meaning they turn to Jesus Christ for their hope and salvation and seek to pursue His life as a model for the way they should live), a good exercise is to replace the word "Love" in this passage with their OWN name. This will give some good insight into how you're doing. I don't have a problem with a Christian wanting ANYONE (Jews included) to know and accept Jesus, but I wonder what Ann Coulter would think if she replaced the word "Love" with her own name in the passage above?
Posted by: Pete | October 12, 2007 12:53 PM
The Anti-Semitic Left?!? Putz.
Coultergeist is irrelevant but she keeps getting on the air.
I guess when Fox Noise is considered journalism, she is considered a Christian.
This is one Christian I'd pay to watch be fed to the lions.
Jesus, the original Liberal!
Posted by: lappy | October 12, 2007 12:57 PM
You are an idiot Frank. Enough said from a devout Christian. Your point is laughable at best. Your a hack.
Posted by: Hugh | October 12, 2007 12:57 PM
As a conservative independent and news consumer, I find Coulter to be the intellectual equivalent of a radio shock jock. Initially an intriguing curiosity, but then quickly fading into a dull, one-note act. Whatever interest I had in her opinion has evaporated over time, drying up completely when she went after the September 11 widows. What's sad is how Big Media trots her out as some kind of spokesperson for the Right, when she's clearly not, and when there are so many good conservative minds and voices that go unheard. Kind of like what Big Media does with Al Sharpton while ignoring so many good African-American minds and voices.
Posted by: Tim1979 | October 12, 2007 1:00 PM
Don't you guys in the media get that this abrasive woman says these things for the attention? Please, is Ann truly a person of interest? What's her expertise? Why would anyone seek her opinion of Judaism, Christianity, or the man in the moon?
Posted by: Ana | October 12, 2007 1:01 PM
Just as many gay men go to the extreme of becoming priests rather than coming out of the closet, Coulter is a cowardly lesbian who channels her repressed sexuality through her conservative extremism.
Posted by: Paula | October 12, 2007 1:10 PM
Ann Coulter, like Bill O'Reilly and others of that ilk, are not news reporters or commentators. They are entertainers. Their offensive comments and abrasive approaches to interviewing are an essential part of their "schtick" and vital to their ratings.
Posted by: Al | October 12, 2007 1:11 PM
Frank,
My only comment would be that the Israelis would need to use an F-16, not an F-15, since the Israeli version of the F-15 does not have air to ground capability. Yes, I am a nerd.
Posted by: Jay | October 12, 2007 1:16 PM
Ann Coulter is used by *both* the extreme right and left. The right obviously uses her to demonize their opponents. The left also uses her to demonize their opponents, by portraying her as the paragon of conservatives. Coulter knows all this of course, and has certainly found her way to profit from it, without regard for the consequences. All this has further coarsened our public discourse. But don't just blame Ann Coulter. We are all to blame.
Posted by: Gene L. | October 12, 2007 1:16 PM
Perhaps one reason why Coulter's comments raised such as flap is that she represents exactly the problem that Jews have had ever since Abraham - maintaining a separateness from the dominant culture. So when Coulter suggests that Jews should solve their problems by becoming Christians, she presents the same unchanging, even unyielding challenge to Judaism - that to be true to God's covenant, you cannot give in to another culture, let alone another religion.
Posted by: Geoff Layton | October 12, 2007 1:17 PM
Definition of a Christian. One who follows the teaching of Christ. Luke 6:27
Posted by: meisaidthat | October 12, 2007 1:18 PM
An excellent post by Mr. James that was so good that even JD tried to twist it for his own purposes.
"The "drive by" Media has been yelling "FIRE" in crowded movie houses for too long. No wonder we have so many angry lefties like John E. et al."
One more biblical quote directed at JD - "Let those without sin cast the first stone". JD must have a sore shoulder for all that he casts at the looney lefties.
Posted by: GM | October 12, 2007 1:18 PM
I didn't hear her denigrate Jews. I didn't hear her insult Jews. She didn't argue that Jews are inferior, or that they should be persecuted. I did hear her express a religious view she holds and believes.
We love to preach tolerance unless, of course, we disagree with the speaker's point of view.
If you don't agree with Ms. Coulter, okay. But she should be shown the same 'tolerance' that we demand for other points of view.
Posted by: RegularGuy | October 12, 2007 1:19 PM
Ann Coulter claims to represent Christianity and yet all I hear from her are the most hateful, bigoted, and intolerant things. And let's face it- there are "compassionate Christians" all over the world buying her books and agreeing with her. It's frightening that these people are pushing for control of America and inarguably, the world. They want us to believe that Muslims are all bad, followed by the now "imperfect" Jews...who's next? They use warped interpretations of the Bible to justify and mask their true intentions, a world where people are dominated by Christian law and government-dictated morality. How can anyone possibly believe a world where freedoms are taken away could ever be a better world? I warn you, the real enemy is the religious right.
Posted by: Mike | October 12, 2007 1:23 PM
She sounds like a spokesperson for radical Islam: either you're a believer or an infidel. We're fighting a global
war against people that want to live in a world where everyone worships at the same alter. Isn't it ironic that this mouthpiece for the right has adopted the same world view.
Posted by: Paul | October 12, 2007 1:24 PM
Coulter should say whatever she wants...most people already know she's nothing but a rhetoric and divisive opinions. I take her comments as that she wants to convert Jewish people to her beliefs (whatever they are). People of Jewish faith should take offense from this...don't you think?
Posted by: Johnny | October 12, 2007 1:25 PM
No matter whether fundie Christians believe that Jews are just "unfinished Christians", this kind of belief is the same base from where radical Islam comes from when it tries to convert Christians, Jews, etc by gun or knife point.
The only difference is that we live in a rich and prosperous country, so our weapon of conversion is the MEDIA.
If fundamentalist Christians want to complain about being singled out and "oppressed" (yet still being the #1 major religion in the US) then maybe they want to look back at how some of their past actions may have engendered such a backlash.
And Ann Coulter is not a journalist. She was a lawyer and then a writer, but never has she been a journalist. Let's get our labels straight.
Posted by: electriclite | October 12, 2007 1:27 PM
The best thing to do is to ignore this bleached-blond, anorexic, thing with an adam's apple below a horse's face. She's clearly desperate to sell her book, and people are giving her the attention she craves. Ann Coultergeist deserves to be ignored due to insignificance.
Posted by: James | October 12, 2007 1:27 PM
"Just as many gay men go to the extreme of becoming priests"
Pop psychology - the superstition of the modern masses.
Anyway, as I commented earlier, if you had a cure for cancer and knew the world had cancer, wouldnt' you tell people about it? wouldn't it be evil to wish people without the cure did not get it? That is how a Christian feels about being 'saved' as the post here alludes to.
She didn't say force anyone. For that, we have forced 'diversity' brain - oops - training from the left.
I think the reaction is actually, ironically a manifestation and attempt to impose Jewish beliefs on people -much of their religion/cultural practices focus on NON assimilation, and that religious identity is something you are born into. So to make proselytizing taboo is really making the society 'kosher'.
As I also alluded to there seems to be an historic hostility towards Christianity in the Jewish community - and I don't think it is because of persecution - as the Chicago Cardinal said it seems to be embedded in their holy books.
google jesus, cardinal bastard in google news and you can find the Telegraph (UK) article that reported the cardinal's comments
Posted by: me | October 12, 2007 1:29 PM
Rey if you truly think that Ann Coulter is a journalist, you are in SERIOUS trouble.
My favorite quote for Ann?
"There's no such thing as bad publicity except your own obituary."
Posted by: dogjudge | October 12, 2007 1:29 PM
Apparently people who write in to say that AC should be ignored are unclear on the meaning of "ignore."
It's Donny D. who should be ashamed of providing her, repeatedly, with a forum to benefit from her "controversial" persona, and then pretending to be offended. It's all show-biz folks. There are plenty of more worthwhile issues to break a sweat over.
Posted by: mark | October 12, 2007 1:31 PM
I have to admit that, on seeing the teaser on the Trib's homepage, my initial response was, "Why is the media still paying attention to her?" I'm just not sure that it's "news" that Ann Coulter said something outlandish. And it isn't significant cultural dialog, either. Maybe it is time the American media just shrugs and walks away....
Posted by: Joe-Borg | October 12, 2007 1:33 PM
Coulter is just another version of O'Reily.
No intellect - no insight!
That means they have to be outrageous or no one would pay attention to them.
Posted by: Carl L | October 12, 2007 1:33 PM
At what point are the Republicans and the folks from the right going to find themselves outraged by their spokespeople?
John Gibson, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Rush, Beck, Malkin etc.
These hate mongers just keep going on and on alienating more and more people while draping themselves in the flag and the bible.
I'm beginning to feel as if I'm at a KKK rally with these folks.
At the same time, they somehow appear to be immune to any real consequences for their mouthes. I just don't get it.
Have Americans REALLY become that bigoted and insensitive that these folks continue to get audiences?
Posted by: dogjudge | October 12, 2007 1:36 PM
Ergo writes "Which is worse, Coulter's comments or Columbia students cheering Ahmadinejad?"
Get a glue. Columbia's student's treated Ahmadinejad to scorn and ridicule.
Posted by: Walter | October 12, 2007 1:40 PM
I'm confused...wasn't this country founded on the belief of religious freedom? I wish that people such as Ann Coulter would remember that, and just worry about getting themselves into heaven and not worry about everyone else….
Posted by: Evelyn | October 12, 2007 1:40 PM
I despise Ann Coulter. I think she is a half-wit with half the story, and she is as bombastic as Limbaugh and tries to outshout people. I think she is worthless to almost any dialogue in which she partakes
But, she offers up what her belief of salvation is for Jews.
A. The radical islamists say Jews and Christians and the west should perish before their sword - and there is support for that in the Quran.
B. Talmudic law rejects Jesus.
C. The world is told that Jews and Christians are ignorant of everyone else.
In the same way that Christ tried to point to the Way, Ann is doing the same - Jews and Muslims condemn everyone else.
Yet, it is the Christian (the "dominant") who is held up?
Imagine if the US offered the same level of rights to non-Christians that Israel offers to non-Jews . . .
Posted by: Brian | October 12, 2007 1:41 PM
Alan, you are correct that Jesus was a reverent Jew, and celebrated his Jewishness, and did not intend to establish a Christianity as a "religion" in the sense that we know it today. But he did say (many, many times) that for true salvation and eternal life, we must believe in Him (not in his teachings -- in himself). I challenge you, Alan, to actually delve into the Bible (which, despite all recent scholarship, still provides 99.9% of what we know about Jesus) and read through a New Testament (hopefully a Bible with footnotes that notate references to the Jewish scriptures, or what Christians call the "Old" Testament). Reading through Jesus' closest friends and followers' accounts of his life, I don't think there's any way to make a reasonable claim that Jesus did not know and refer to Himself as the Son of God and as the Messiah that came to fulfill the hope of the Jewish scriptures. The people who wrote and distributed these accounts were (except a couple who were exiled or imprisoned) all martyred horribly; it's one thing to die for a lie but quite another to submit to torture and death based on a lie that you KNOW isn't true. And these folks experienced none of the wealth and power of the Christian "religion" (we can call this "Christendom") that would only become a force hundreds of years later. You can choose not to believe that He was the son of God, but it's pretty difficult to read the Gospels without being reminded constantly that "this guy Jesus thinks he's God's son come to save the world!". He was either completely insane, a lying magician, or what He said He was. And being a good teacher is not one of the choices, despite how much we want that to be true, and thus not have to leave our spiritual/intellectual comfort zones to choose one way or the other, do we believe or don't we.
By the way, I do think it's highly illogical and irrational to believe in Jesus, and for most of my life I didn't. But Jesus did miracles in my life that logic and reason never could. I hope He keeps working to perfect Ann Coulter, but mostly I need Him to help perfect me.
Posted by: Pete | October 12, 2007 1:41 PM
The same could be said about Muslims, Buddhists,Hindus, etc., right?
There's nothing incendiary about Coulter's remarks when viewed in the context of religious debate. How does Jewish doctrine view Christians and others? How does Muslim doctrine view others? And on and on.
Here's the bottom line: If I'm "X" and I think my religion has the correct vision/understanding of God, then WHY on God's green earth would I care whether someone converts to my religion?
To help them? Why? To share my relationship with God?
No man has ever wanted to share God with anyone. Yet every man has killed and maimed others for not believing in God as he does.
I say, "Stick to your true nature. If you got the inside track on God, keep it to yourself. Don't share it with anyone because that's in your selfish, human nature."
If all zealots would follow this principle, religious conflicts would end.
Posted by: Bud McFarlin | October 12, 2007 1:41 PM
Ann is right...ANYONE can be made perfect in the eyes of God through faith in Jesus Christ!
Posted by: Chazlow | October 12, 2007 1:42 PM
I don't agree with Ms. Coulter's sentiments but I do think it's no different than the Jews calling themselves God's chosen people, or all of the Jews who criticize Christians and the Catholic Church. Was Donny Deutsche offended when Kathy Griffin accepted her Emmy by saying Jesus could suck it. Was The Swamp offended and did they make it front page news? Did you complain about Rosy O'Donnel and her offensive comments about Christians?
Posted by: James M | October 12, 2007 1:45 PM
Wow so much negative hate and from the mouths of Media Matters everyone fell lock step to blast ole Annie. Would be willing to bet bunches maybe one of these hate slingers actually watched Donny and his BIG IDEA. For that matter - Does anybody watch anything on CNBC???
Posted by: LJ Boz | October 12, 2007 1:45 PM
Why do we focus so much attention on ignorant people in the media? Ignore Coulter, for she has nothing of intellectual substance to say in the first place. Don't feed her ego, turn her off! Liberal or conservative, she isn't worth spending your time on.
Posted by: Travis | October 12, 2007 1:45 PM
I see mAnn Coultergiest has put her foot in her mouth again, it's been a bad week for the Republickin water carriers:
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*Bill-O - slurs the black people's table manners who are eating next to him at a restaurant in Harlem.
*Rush Limpdong - goes off and calls soldiers in Iraq who don't agree with Prez 29%'s Iraq policy "phony soldiers".
*Michelle "I'll eat your kids" Malkin - gives out the home address to a 12 year old boy's family because she's angry that he had the nerve to stand up and call out the GOoPer's for spending to much on Iraq and not enough on healthcare
....and now we have devil re-incarnated, Coultergiest spouting off anti-semitic taunts.
The Republickin Party is crashing and burning at 100 mph......YES!
Posted by: John E | October 12, 2007 1:52 PM
What is going unsaid is that the needed 'perfection' of Jews is that it is the SAME basis that the Islamic faith has about Christianity, that Christianity is....
'unfinished work'!
Posted by: James Tiger | October 12, 2007 1:59 PM
Ann Coulter is a walking hate crime. Why anyone would want to provide her with a forum is beyond me.
Posted by: Ken L. | October 12, 2007 2:01 PM
I am surprised that people listen to her. She is a bigot whose loud mouth and "bold" opinions need to stop being broadcasted. She is offensive and has not only critized Jews, but women and homosexuals as well. She reminds me of Hitler. Why does the media pay attention to this hateful woman? She seems to have diarrhea of the mouth and spits out whatever comes into that twisted little head of hers.
Posted by: Clarice DeMille | October 12, 2007 2:02 PM
I'm sorry. I can't buy any of this. More people have died in the name of organized religions than any other beliefs or events, Christianity being the worst offender. The world would be better off with no religion, and a simple "treat others as you want to be treated" philosophy.
Posted by: Mike | October 12, 2007 2:04 PM
Bud McFarlin, actually if you are a Christian, sharing your faith is like sharing a cure for a deadly disease -- once you've seen the cure in action how can you not share it with those in need? And Christians are also COMMANDED to do so -- Jesus' last words to his followers were this: "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." I think "All nations" is pretty clear there.
Also, you bring up a great point about how Christianity is actually different than any other "major" religion. Generally religions spread by becoming dominant in a culture, and then when that culture takes over or assimilates another nation or culture, that conquered nation is then forced to adopt the conquering nation's religion (see the initial spread of Islam for an example). Now of course I am not oblivious to the fact that there are many examples of this "conquering" approach to Christendom, such as the Spanish influence in the Americas. However, we are so accustomed to viewing Christianity as the "religion of power" that we forget that early Christians had ZERO power and influence in their society (in fact they were persecuted for centuries), and the only way to share the newfound joy and peace in their hearts with others was by missionary activity (often covertly, as was necessary in the shadow of the Roman empire). I think that the crusades and the Inquisition and warmongering princes and kings of Christendom (who weren't necessarily Christian, but used the power of religion to gain control over the masses) have given true Christ-followers an extremely bad name. We don't want to fight, we want to share our blessings in love because that's what it's all about for us. It's just a shame that so many horrible wars tragedies undertaken "in the name of Jesus" have been carried out by men and women who don't know or love Jesus at all.
Posted by: Pete | October 12, 2007 2:06 PM
"As I also alluded to there seems to be an historic hostility towards Christianity in the Jewish community"
How many pogroms on Christian communities have Jewish communities launched in history?
How many pogroms on Jewish communities have Christian communities launched in history?
As a Roman Catholic from Chicago, I think it is absolute lunacy on Cardinal George's part to in any way equate Christiany's history of antagonism toward judaism with Judaism's antagonism toward christianity.
(To be fair, having read the article, I don't think that was what he intended.)
Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2007 2:07 PM
If an observant Muslum were interviewed and said that the only way to salvation was through Allah and this applies to all human beings, you would give him all the respect you deny an observent Christian
Posted by: Doug_S | October 12, 2007 2:09 PM
Do you really get anywhere for feel better about yourself for ridiculing another human being? I expect the level of intelligence and morals to be a little higher than the norm for Tribune readers. I am greatly disappointed in what I read in the comment section.
Attack a person for what s/he says or believes in not how s/he looks or represents oneself because attacking someone based on appearance is very immature. Grow up.
Posted by: Jenny | October 12, 2007 2:10 PM
I agree with Chazlow anyone can be made perfect in the eys of God through faith in Jesus.
Ann Coulter is not anti-semitic and neither am I. I believe in Jesus to be the Son of God and my Savior.
Too much has been inferred by posters. She made a simple statement of faith.
Nothing more nothing less. Those who say she doesn't go to church doesn't know her.
The one who wanted to know her qualifications. She is a lawyer and has clerked for federal judges. A logical person with a good sense of humor. You liberals take yourselves far too seriously and you are elitists it's your way or the highway. Jerry White, Springfield, IL
Posted by: Jerry White | October 12, 2007 2:11 PM
"As I also alluded to there seems to be an historic hostility towards Christianity in the Jewish community - and I don't think it is because of persecution - as the Chicago Cardinal said it seems to be embedded in their holy books."
Posted by: me | October 12, 2007 1:29 PM
Brian:
I have not heard of non-Jews being driven out of Israel - what is your point??
Me?
Ever heard of the Pogroms?? The Spanish Inquisition?? The Holocaust?
And you talk about hostility towards Christians by Jews?????
Posted by: BobinATL | October 12, 2007 2:16 PM
Coulter is a horse-faced Nazi wannabe. I can't believe that any Christian would endorse her considering her propensity to call people "fags" and to want to cast all who don't share her religion into perpetual hellfire. She's made a career of being mean, nasty and intolerant.
Posted by: jude | October 12, 2007 2:17 PM
I had a chance very brief encounter with her in an airport. You should leave this poor woman alone. She's obviously a mentally disturbed person that peope are taking advantage of. Yes, she's making some money, but if you saw her before the makeup job, you'd be saying get this poor woman some meds (I don't know if she is taking any now, does anyone else?).
Posted by: Rhonin | October 12, 2007 2:19 PM
Posted by: Jerry White | October 12, 2007 2:11 PM
Jerry Whitie,
You seem to have an awful lot of pent up hate for those who are not like you (liberals).
Is that how a "fine" Christian boy like yourself is supposed to act?
Do they shut off the oxygen down there in Springfield or is it just you?
Posted by: John E | October 12, 2007 2:24 PM
Thanks, Ann, but we're already perfect. Chosen people, etc.
Posted by: Jews | October 12, 2007 2:30 PM
Why do so many of you let Ann Coulter bother you?
I see a lot of hate in these post. That is worse than anything Ann Coulter can say.
So before you get upset, it is a free country.
If you don't like Ann Colter turn your television and stop talking about her.
Thats what I do.
Same thing I do when the nuts in Hollywood open their stupid mouths and have no clue what they are talking about.
Posted by: Kaye | October 12, 2007 2:40 PM
I think John Chuckman hit the bulls-eye with his remark: "The prominence of figures such as Coulter - and America has many of them - is not so much a reflection of free speech as it is an ugly level of public discourse and readiness of so many to laugh at what is hateful."
That this woman's remarks receive so much quotation and play in the news media speaks volumes about what keeps the news media floating: peddling fear and anger.
How can we wonder that our children are being so sharply dumbed-down generation after generation.
Posted by: Ken | October 12, 2007 2:40 PM
Do they shut off the oxygen down there in Springfield or is it just you?
Posted by: John E | October 12, 2007 2:24 PM
That would explain much of the history of the Illinois State government through the years, wouldn't it?
Posted by: AJF | October 12, 2007 2:42 PM
"Even writing this, it's hard not to feel like I'm playing into Coulter's hands, that I'm in some way being an accomplice."
You are being an accomplice. You've given her column inches and basically legitimized her attitude which is an attitude that has kept tensions between Jews and evangelicals for decades - in effect saying, "Look, millions agree with her; she's all right."
I don't think Christ would be thrilled with Ann Coulter's tactics ... or her heart.
Posted by: Reader in Houston | October 12, 2007 2:47 PM
The world would be better off with no religion, and a simple "treat others as you want to be treated" philosophy.
Posted by: Mike | October 12, 2007 2:04 PM
Mike, you may not know this, but that philosophy can be restated as "Love your neighbor as yourself." And that is the Second Greatest Commandment contained in both the Jewish books of Law and Prophets and as reiterated by Jesus in the New Testament Gospels. It is a philosophy that is firmly rooted in a religious belief that God has commanded such behavior of us. I'm sure, though, that others on this board can show me non-religious systems from which this philosophy is derived from. And what, in the absence of religion, would make this philosophy "right."
Posted by: JB | October 12, 2007 2:50 PM
She's got a nice Adam's apple!!! FREAKKKKKKKK
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | October 12, 2007 2:52 PM
"Have Americans REALLY become that bigoted and insensitive that these folks continue to get audiences?"
Posted by: dogjudge | October 12, 2007 1:36 PM
Yes, dogjudge, it seems the answer to that is yes. I think there are a lot of fair-minded individuals out there but they ... we ... seem to be outnumbered by jingoistic bigots and fundamentalists of every stripe. I hope I'll be able to survive the remainder of my life in this country without being attacked and/or incarcerated for political or religious differences.
Posted by: Reader in Houston | October 12, 2007 2:53 PM
Ann C's beliefs are clearly anti-semitic, although I would guess she doesn't realize it(as is true of many well-intentioned Christians). I'm sure she abhors the Holocaust-its purpose to eliminate Judaism from the earth. What she proposes would accomplish the same thing, as does the Liberal approach of acceptance and assimilation.Please, treat us just you would like to be treated.
Posted by: David | October 12, 2007 2:57 PM
I say let her go on. Her, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, let them all keep talking. The more they go on, the more they show themselves to be the ignorant, bigots and fools that they are. I say give them enough rope to hang themselves. They surely will.
Posted by: Adam | October 12, 2007 2:59 PM
She's just a nutcase, like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. Nobody takes them seriously. Let it go.
Posted by: Gibster | October 12, 2007 3:00 PM
I don't understand what the big flap is about. I thought it was common knowledge that Jews are awaiting "The Messiah" in order to complete their existence. Christians just happen to think that Jesus was this Messiah and Jews do not. When a Muslim says the world should be under Sharia Law, there isn't even a yawn. Pardon me, but your biasis are showing.
Posted by: Roger | October 12, 2007 3:02 PM
JB,
I do believe that many of these philosophies have their basis in religion. I endeavor to be "Christ-like" everyday, as in turning the other cheek, etc., but the bastardized interpretations of fundamentalist zealots (and American Superchurches) attempt to dictate your every action and behavior. That's the part I won't buy into- the control part. That's the part that kills people, "live our way or you are a blasphemer."
Posted by: Mike | October 12, 2007 3:03 PM
Oh my, let's "perfect" Ms. Coulter but having her recreate another movement to "perfect" the Jewish people: Hitler's Holocaust.
No, you say, that's not what she meant.
Do all good people go to Heaven with Ms. Coulter and the I'm-so-right Christians?
Do Muslims go to the same Heaven? And Buddists and Hindus?
Yes, she knows how to sell her brand of hate and ignorance.
The real trouble is all those "perfected" haters like her really can cause hell on earth.
Look at Adoph who started out as another nut who always got media attention.
Posted by: Mary Margaret | October 12, 2007 3:10 PM
I had a chance very brief encounter with her in an airport.
Posted by: Rhonin | October 12, 2007 2:19 PM
Please, dude...don't go there.
Posted by: DD | October 12, 2007 3:12 PM
Wasn't last week's Sunday Tribune Perspective section all about the national and world-wide rise in antisemitism?
She sure seems ignorant of global issues.
How Christian-like is it to fuel hatred?
Just wondering.
Posted by: butt head | October 12, 2007 3:23 PM
She's an idiot. Stop giving her air time. She needs to go away.
Posted by: Steve | October 12, 2007 3:24 PM
It seems Ann's Jewish problem has more to do with who she is dating these days (Andy Stein). If she wants to talk about being a good Christian...she better prove she is a virgin among other lame 'Christian' rules.
Posted by: Shawn | October 12, 2007 3:26 PM
It is an interesting situation when one of this ugly lady's less offensive comments stirs up so much reaction.
Ann Coulter leaves a long trail of genuine hate speech behind her. In America, as perhaps few other places, this is a technique to get yourself noticed and quoted.
Her regular output qualifies completely as hate-speech, much as that of pill-popping Rush Limbaugh.
The prominence of figures such as Coulter - and America has many of them - is not so much a reflection of free speech as it is an ugly level of public discourse and readiness of so many to laugh at what is hateful.
Someone in another commenting space characterized Coulter as a "horse-faced Nazi wannabe."
Absolutely correct, except for the "wannabe."
Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | October 12, 2007 3:28 PM
Miss Coulter has an unfortunate tendency to be harsh. If she is genuinely trying to witness, that is not a very effective or winsome manner of attempting to do so. It seems to me that many well-meaning Evangelical Christians would do well to remember that in the first and second centuries, Christianity spread in large part because the world saw Christians suffering in love and that strength, moved the world to look more closely at this new sect. For the biblically minded, see 1 Peter 2:13-25.
Posted by: red and black redneck | October 12, 2007 3:29 PM
As a Jew who is proud of his heritage and yet constantly strives to get rid of his many imperfections, I would like to ask Ms Coulter if in her opinion just by converting into Christianity I can become "perfect"? (I'm sorry that in my still imperfect state I have to out that word within quotation marks, but I believe that only God and our ideals can be perfect...)
Posted by: David from Tel Aviv, Israel | October 12, 2007 3:36 PM
Despite what many of you have posted, Ann Coulter is indeed a hottie. (Believe it or not, in law school she had a mousy wedge haircut, wore glasses, fair isle sweaters and jeans.)
Coulter is also incredibly smart - I went to law school with her and was impressed by her intellect even back then.
As noted above, she skillfully manipulates the media and says exceedingly repugnant things to draw attention to herself - which feeds into her media machine. Knowing her, I'm sure she laughs inside at most of the right wingers who lap up her neocon pap. While she is certainly conservative, I believe a lot of what she spouts is calculated to outrage the left and center (and especially the MSM), and is simply part of her "schtick" that keeps her books flying off the shelves.
Posted by: Buster | October 12, 2007 3:43 PM
Her book sales are doing lousy, so she needs to spew some garbage to get herself some attention and try to boost sales.
I love the smell of conservative desperation in the morning!
Posted by: BC | October 12, 2007 3:43 PM
if Einhorn is Finkle and Finkle is Einhorn, Einhorn is a Ann ... an Ann Coulter. This woman needs something else to do in her life other than to put herself on stage and pretend to know what is good for this country, it's people and government. Like that other political "writer" Michelle Malkin, this buttnugget of a pundit is opening her pie hole when it is better off remaining closed. There is no excuse for her remarks other than she drinks too much of the ol Biblical Kool-Aid. Further, she has no basis for her points, other than her own opinion, which might I add (oh, and I will) is illogical. If she lived in a glass house, you bet I'd throw stones at her and I would throw them pretty hard.
Posted by: Ron Powlus | October 12, 2007 3:45 PM
Ann who? If you're not in the news, you lose. High profile through guile.
Posted by: Stacey | October 12, 2007 3:54 PM
I see a lot of hate posted here. Shame on you and Ann Coulter.
Posted by: Kaye | October 12, 2007 3:55 PM
I see no difference between her saying what she did about Jews, and what Imus said about black women. She should be given the same treatment as he recieved.
Posted by: Brad | October 12, 2007 3:57 PM
Nothing revs up the blogs like a crossdresser with a tude.
Posted by: bill r. | October 12, 2007 3:59 PM
Ms. Coulter obvously has a need for attention and will say or do whatever she believes will create that attention. It is past time for the American public to stop being bombarded with her personal brand of psychosis. She certainly has the right to free speech - we have the right not to be assaulted with her unfortunate beliefs. The media needs to stop throwing her sad tantrums into the limelight and focus on mentally healthy opinions. As a Christian I vehemently protest her as a spokesperson for Christianity.
Posted by: Bobbie | October 12, 2007 4:01 PM
Ms. Coulter is about as hard to read through as clear SaranWrap. She craves and wants attention (and book sales), so she goes and says something even more ridiculous than she did the last time...and yet people give her the attention.
Why bother on such a useless excuse for a human being. Keep chain smoking, Ann, perhaps you'll meet an early grave and save us all a lot of headaches from your screechy, strident voice.
Posted by: Candy Carlisle | October 12, 2007 4:01 PM
Without having even read what was said, I am reminded of pop icon Madonna. Another marginally talented woman who will stop at nothing to keep her name in the media. Her talent, the turn of a phrase in such a way that she can back peddle her way out when cornered.
Yet another American Hate Monger, she should be treated as a bad child, ignore her and she will tire herself out.
Posted by: Joe Wickliff | October 12, 2007 4:01 PM
I'm debating whether she should be stoned (Jewish) for crucified (Christian)...hmmmm...i say...let him live!...sorry, i meant her/him/her...oh well!
we love ya ann! yet ANOTHER republican one the downfall....i love it!
Posted by: anthony | October 12, 2007 4:05 PM
As a conservative who has in recent years repeatedly condemned Ann Coulter's shock-jock tactics for cheapening the civil discourse in this great nation, I have to say I'm disappointed that many of those posting here are engaging in similar tactics. Her hair color, her nose, her neck, her hands, the shape of her face---what on earth does that have to do with criticizing her behavior? It's truly sad that so many on the Left don't see (or worse, don't care to see) that when they engage in such ad hominem attacks, they sink to the level of the neanderthals who, all through the 1990s and beyond, cri