by Mark Silva
The White House today is dismissing the report of a seasoned journalist that the Bush administration, intent on attacking Iran, has shifted its target from a developing nuclear program in Iran to the supply lines of Iranians reinforcing insurgent fighters inside Iraq.
Writer Seymour Hersh says so in The New Yorker, citing a number of confidential sources.
"Every two months or so, Sy Hersh writes an article in the New Yorker magazine and CNN gives him a forum to talk about his article and all the anonymous sources on it,'' Dana Perino, the White House press secretary, said today, insisting that President Bush still maintains that diplomacy is "the best solution'' for settling differences with Iran.
She declined to address, however, the basic contention that U.S. miltiary planners and intelligence gathers have turned their focus to a "shifting target'' in Iran.
"We don’t discuss such things,'' she said. "What we have said is that we are working toward a diplomatic solution in Iran… What we also have said is that the president, and any commander in chief would, not take any option off the table.
"I’m not going to comment on any possible scenario that an anonymous source continues to feed into Sy Hersh,'' she said -- also resisting repeated questions about whether the president would attack Iran without seeking congressional approval. "We are pursuing a diplomatic solution in Iran.''

Comments
iran is the next iraq surgical strikes will lead to all out war
Posted by: michelle | October 1, 2007 1:57 PM
Remember,attacking Iraq was once nothing more then a ridiculous rumor.
Posted by: RomanB | October 1, 2007 2:02 PM
Here comes the draft.
Posted by: GT | October 1, 2007 2:02 PM
"DANA SPEAKS" We don't discuss ANYTHING, We don't discuss actionable intelligence, We don't discuss MEMO'S, AMERICA YOU OUGHT TO KNOW THAT"
WE JUST LIE ABOUT IT, AND DON'T RECALL A DAMN THING LATER!
Especially the last quarter of the year, August, September, Novemberr and December, we are do not read any morning briefings as they may contain incriminating evidence of REMEMBERANCE!
JUST GIVE ME MY MONEY or I will VETO THOSE LITTLE CHILDRENS WHO DON'T HAVE MEDICAL COVERAGE.
Posted by: Roger Morris | October 1, 2007 2:05 PM
We call Iran's president a madman because of his threats against us and israel. We condemn others for wanting to talk to him since there is no reasoning with a man who threatens other nations (ie: Israel). Yet the only likely plans for attack come from our government at the behest of Israel which objects only to the fact that such an attack is not severe enough. How these people can keep on speaking without bursting out in laughter at their hypocrisy is beyond me.
Posted by: Nadeem Salem | October 1, 2007 2:19 PM
It is clear that we cannot trust this administration not to do something stupid like attack Iran. The question is whether there is any way to stop them
Posted by: Steve Savage | October 1, 2007 2:28 PM
I remember a time way back in 2002 when this same admin. swore up and down that they were doing everything possible to ensure a diplomatic resolution with Iraq. We all saw how that turned out. As to the credibility issue, this admin. has none, and Sy Hersh hasn't lied to us on a daily basis for 7 straight years. Is Iran going to greet us as liberators and throw flowers as well?
Posted by: James McGrundy | October 1, 2007 2:31 PM
Funny thing, Hersch always ends up being right, and the White House smokescreen always ends up being wrong. I wonder why that is...
Posted by: Thomas Mc | October 1, 2007 2:31 PM
I wonder if we will build a "Coalition of the Billing" like we did in Iraq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk4rBQDxOEE
Posted by: nisleib | October 1, 2007 2:37 PM
I could care less if we're drawing up plans to attack Iran. We may never need them but if we do then we're ready to go.
Iran better watch itself.
Posted by: BO | October 1, 2007 2:41 PM
What part of "diplomacy is the best solution" for settling differences in Iran" do you people not understand?
Posted by: N. Otter | October 1, 2007 2:47 PM
We MST make it clear that we do not support military action against Iran.
War with Iran absolutely guarantees that the American Dream as we once knew it is gone forever. If attacked, Iran will bring the war to the US, without question.
Posted by: ebailey | October 1, 2007 2:48 PM
I don't believe a word the Commander Guy says, he has no credibility whatsoever.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Neocon nutjobs in the White House decided to bomb Iran seeing as how their other TWO wars are going so "well", HaHaHaHoHoHaHa!
Posted by: John E | October 1, 2007 2:50 PM
If I remember correctly, the three leading Dem candidates, including frontrunner Hill, Saint Obama and Hairdo Edwards
have been less than forthright about Iran. But what they did say suggested that, yes, to a man/woman they wouldn't take force off the table.
I could see a scenario in which Bush/Cheney aided by Clueless Condi invade Iran just before the election, thereby sending citizens scuttling back to the Republican party or, equally fun for the Prez, dumping Iraq plus a newly invaded Iran on the next, Democratic Prez, thereby making him/her a War President Supremo.No getting out of those two wars easily. And when they botch it up, which is likely, there's always Jeb in 2012.
Posted by: Helena | October 1, 2007 2:54 PM
America won't attack Iran just yet. Our bases in Iraq and our warships in the Persian Gulf are easy targets for Iranian missiles.
Posted by: Bill Daviau | October 1, 2007 2:56 PM
Give me a break, there are more libs with nothing better to do than post here about Bush. I say Go Bush! Bomb Iran!
Posted by: NeoCon | October 1, 2007 2:58 PM
I support any US action against Iran. Yes, Iran is the threat to the world peace.
We have to defend our freedom and the freedom of our closest ally in the middle east.
If we don't stop them now, then king Abdullah will soon rule this world.
Posted by: Brother Joseph | October 1, 2007 2:59 PM
Death to Iran. Free Persia!
Posted by: Longo | October 1, 2007 3:00 PM
As big of an idiot, crook and liar as Bush is, at least he has a spine.
Until the Dems find theirs, plus a shread of integrity, we are likely to be going to war--again.
Posted by: Gibster | October 1, 2007 3:02 PM
It would be a height of irresponsibility and even stupidity on the part of the government of the US to even entertain the idea of attacking Iran. Once before in 1953 the US rulling class decided to overthrow a legitimate government of Dr. Mossadegh and install the puppet rgime of the Shah. The result was a revolution of 1979 and since then swipping changes in Middle East.
Posted by: Ardeshir Ommani | October 1, 2007 3:06 PM
So at what point are the DEMOCRATS going to realize that there's a problem here? The day after George W. Bush has started a war with Iran?
Bush and the Republicans are idiots, but the Democrats just seem to be ignoring all of the warning signs.
Has Iraq happened so long ago that the Democrats don't understand all of this saber rattling?
Posted by: dogjudge | October 1, 2007 3:07 PM
iran WILL not only destroy Israel with atomic bombs, but ALSO all other none islamic countries, it will give atomic weapons to libya and so on. not now, they wait till a weak usa president is on turn, and anyway step by step. muslim leaders and inmans are 100% dedicated to destroy and kill all which is not muslim. the end of the western world is already sealed, unfortunatly.
Posted by: warning | October 1, 2007 3:09 PM
When the only thing our elected representatives can agree on is to silence war critics.
They didn't condemn Vice President Cheney when he falsely connected Al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein. They didn't condemn Colin Powell when he lied about WMD to the United Nations. They didn't condemn President Bush when he started eavesdropping on American citizens without a warrant
Posted by: Bush_Wacker | October 1, 2007 3:10 PM
War with Iran is inevitable. It only makes sense to fight this war before Iran aquires nuclear weapons. There is no need to occupy Iran after we have destroyed their military capabilities.
Posted by: Michael Creedon | October 1, 2007 3:24 PM
Start selling your SUVs and cars now because after Iran shuts the Starit of Hurmoz, we'll all be riding our bikes or riding horses. Bush's Cowboy dreams might be coming true for all of us, not just him!
Posted by: Sean | October 1, 2007 3:31 PM
Another non-denial denial. We've seen these before, and they always turn out to be confirmations.
Posted by: Juarez Traveller | October 1, 2007 4:02 PM
This little misunderstanding is the fault of the liberal media. OF COURSE the Bush Adminstration is "pursuing a diplomatic solution in Iran." The media has simply refused to report on all of the meetings Bush's people have had with Iran. And Dana Perino is going to furnish details of those meetings any day now.
BWAHAHAHAHA!! Sorry, I couldn't help it.
Posted by: CTurner, Durham, NC | October 1, 2007 4:03 PM
It seems that Mr. Bush is up to his usual self, sending the sons of others to wars. Could this be some childhood, DSM-IV condition that was never addressed? Perhaps along with his absence from serving in Vietnam. As Condi put it "leave diplomacy to the diplomats". Now let's find us some diplomats, because what we have is a real mess. We have saber rattling, shot-calling, war mongoring, hypocrites. I have that right because I served in conflict compliments of his dad "GH". Been there done that!!!
Posted by: jay | October 1, 2007 4:06 PM
Hmmmm, a few weeks ago the Left was all wet with anticipation of an Obama presidency that would bomb, invade and attack U.S. ally Pakistan.
But here, the Left is wetting itself over another POSSIBLE attack, that being on Iran, which funds terrorists groups, aids and abets Al Qaeda, kills American soldiers in Iraq and basically destabilizes the Middle East and world.
The Bush administration has no imminent plans to attack Iran. The administration has been working through its allies and UN to get Iran to behave and has even talked to Iran directly about its actions in Iraq and possible solutions to that region.
The administration has been actively working through the UN and peaceful means, and on things like sanctions. This administration also says it woul prefer to see change in Iran come from WITHIN Iran.
Are there plans on the table for military action in Iran? Probably so and there should be. Just as there plans on the table for possible military action against the Soviets from 1940s on, through Democratic and Republican presidencies.
Posted by: John D | October 1, 2007 4:06 PM
The chances of preventing Sir-Bombs-a-Lot from going after Iran if he wants to are slim; international controls and checks don't seem to have much power over him. But does what Sy Hersh said really come as ANY surprise to ANYONE here? Anyone? I didn't think so...
Posted by: Catherder | October 1, 2007 4:09 PM
Mennonite rock! Did you see the meeting they sponsored in NY with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran?
At least one group is encouraging dialog with Iran.
Go to http://www.mcc.org/iran for more info. about this meeting.
Posted by: Marie | October 1, 2007 4:13 PM
Mennonites rock! Did you see the meeting they sponsored in NY with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran?
At least one group is encouraging dialog with Iran.
Go to http://www.mcc.org/iran for more info. about this meeting.
Posted by: Marie | October 1, 2007 4:14 PM
If America atttacks Iran, it will spark WW3. Iran is not a threat to the world, they are developing technology to use for energy, unlike the us and israel who used it to make weapons.
Posted by: dave | October 1, 2007 4:14 PM
Iran wants a nuke so lets give then one
it's the only way out of this game is a big bomb to shut up the Arab world
and say
don't (mess) with America
Posted by: jeff miller | October 1, 2007 4:15 PM
Let's gain the respect of the international community first by respecting their decision as a whole (U.N.). We lost enough respect on the first invasion. Otherwise, weigh the real price. Think about it. There are many more fires in this world to put out. We can't do it alone.
Posted by: Richard | October 1, 2007 4:15 PM
So all of you who dont believe Bush, believe the Iranian president? You believe they want nuclear power only? You dont feel his statements are aggressive toward Israel and the west? You dont believe he sponsors terrorism, like Hamas? And I guess you dont believe that iran is killing our troops in Iraq? Well if you have answered yes to one or more of the above, kill yourself now for being stupid! And remember, dont pollute our gene pool!
Posted by: natfire | October 1, 2007 4:26 PM
I could care less if we're drawing up plans to attack Iran. We may never need them but if we do then we're ready to go.
Iran better watch itself.
Posted by: BO | October 1, 2007 2:41 PM
Keyboard commandos unite! A christian holywar is at hand. Blog away. p.s. Who cares if a few thousand more American GIs get killed in the process. It's great TV. So what if there's over a hundred thousand troops within range of Iranian retaliation. The chickens are coming home to roost!
Posted by: Anonymous Bosh | October 1, 2007 4:32 PM
To all, pathetic, spineless whining, hippie-wannabees. Americans are being attacked daily by insurgents, money, weapons, and propaganda coming over from Iran. There is plenty of evidence for that. Rather than stand up for your country you roll over on your backs and blame our president. You people make me sick. Bush isn't perfect, but at least he has a spine. America is doomed with your attitude.
Posted by: W. W. | October 1, 2007 4:41 PM
Warmongers are in full force it appears by some of the postings. Iran is no threat to the U.S. The only threat to the U.S. and the world is Israel. Israel will stop at nothing to reaffirm her superiority in the Middle East: she is the "mouse that roared". Killing American young men and women only means less "goyim"(non-Jews) in the world as long as her soldiers are safe killing Palestinian children:
>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/907708.html
Twilight Zone /
The children of 5767
By Gideon Levy
It was a pretty quiet year, relatively speaking. Only 457 Palestinians
and 10 Israelis were killed, according to the B'Tselem human rights organization, including
the victims of Qassam
rockets. Fewer casualties than in many previous years. However, it was
still a terrible year:
92 Palestinian children were killed (fortunately, not a single Israeli
child was killed by
Palestinians, despite the Qassams). One-fifth of the Palestinians killed
were children and teens - a disproportionate, almost unprecedented number. The Jewish year of 5767. Almost
100 children, who were alive and playing last New Year, didn't survive
to see this one.
One year. Close to 8,000 kilometers were covered in the newspaper's small,
armored Rover - not including the hundreds of kilometers in the old yellow Mercedes taxi
belonging to Munir and Sa'id, our dedicated drivers in Gaza. This is how we celebrated
the 40th anniversary of
the occupation. No one can argue anymore that it's only a temporary,
passing phenomenon.
Israel is the occupation. The occupation is Israel.
We set out each week in the footsteps of the fighters, in the West
Bank and the Gaza Strip,
trying to document the deeds of Israel Defense Forces soldiers, Border
Police officers, Shin
Bet security service investigators and Civil Administration personnel
- the mighty occupation
army that leaves behind in its wake horrific killing and destruction, this
year as every year, for
four decades.
And this was the year of the children that were killed. We didn't get
to all of their homes, only
to some; homes of bereavement where parents weep bitterly over their
children, who were
climbing a fig tree in the yard, or sitting on a bench in the street,
or preparing for an exam, or on their way home from school, or sleeping peacefully in the false
security of their homes.
A few of them also threw a rock at an armored vehicle or touched a forbidden fence. All came under live fire, some of which was deliberately aimed at them,
cutting them down in
their youth. From Mohammed (al-Zakh) to Mahmoud (al-Qarinawi), from the boy
who was buried twice in Gaza to the boy who was buried in Israel. These are
the stories of the children
of 5767.
The first of them was buried twice. Abdullah al-Zakh identified half
of the body of his son
Mahmoud, in the morgue refrigerator of Shifa Hospital in Gaza, by the
boy's belt and the
socks on his feet. This was shortly before last Rosh Hashanah. The
next day, when the Israel
Defense Forces "successfully" completed Operation Locked Kindergarten, as it was called,leaving behind 22 dead and a razed neighborhood, and left Sajiyeh in Gaza,
the bereaved father found the remaining parts of the body and brought them for a
belated burial.
Mahmoud was 14 when he died. He was killed three days before the start
of the school year.
Thus we ushered in Rosh Hashanah 5767. In Shifa we saw children whose
legs were amputated, who were paralyzed or on respirators. Families were killed in their sleep, or while riding on donkeys, or working in the fields. Operation Locked Kindergarten and Operation
Summer Rains. Remember? Five children were killed in the first operation,
with the dreadful
name. For a week, the people of Sajiyeh lived in fear the likes of which
Sderot residents have
never experienced - not to belittle their anxiety, that is.
The day after Rosh Hashanah we traveled to Rafah. Dam Hamad, 14, had
been killed in her
sleep, in her mother's arms, by an Israeli rocket strike that sent a
concrete pillar crashing
down on her head. She was the only daughter of her paralyzed mother,
her whole world. In
the family's impoverished home in the Brazil neighborhood, at the edge
of Rafah, we met the
mother who lay in a heap in bed; everything she had in the world was
gone. Outside, I
remarked to the reporter from French television who accompanied me that
this was one of those moments when I felt ashamed to be an Israeli. The next day he called
and said: "They
didn't broadcast what you said, for fear of the Jewish viewers in
France."
Soon afterward we went back to Jerusalem to visit Maria Aman, the amazing
little girl from
Gaza, who lost nearly everyone in her life to a missile strike gone
awry that wiped out her
innocent family, including her mother, while riding in their car. Her
devoted father Hamdi
remains by her side. For a year and a half, she has been cared for at
the wonderful Alyn
Hospital, where she has learned to feed a parrot with her mouth and to
operate her wheelchair using her chin. All the rest of her limbs are paralyzed.
She is connected day and
night to a respirator. Still, she is a cheerful and neatly groomed child
whose father fears the
day they might be sent back to Gaza.
For now, they remain in Israel. Many Israelis have devoted themselves
to Maria and come to
visit her regularly. A few weeks ago, broadcast journalist Leah Lior
took her in her car to see
the sea in Tel Aviv. It was a Saturday night, and the area was crowded
with people out for a
good time, but the girl in the wheelchair attracted attention. Some
people recognized her and
stopped to say hello and wish her well. Who knows? Maybe the pilot who
fired the missile at
her car happened to be passing by, too.
Not everyone has been fortunate enough to receive the treatment that
Maria has had. In mid-
November, a few days after the bombardment of Beit Hanoun - remember
that? - we arrived
in the battered and bleeding town: 22 killed in a moment, 11 shells
dropped on a densely
packed town. Islam, 14, sat there dressed in black, grieving for her
eight relatives that had
been killed, including her mother and grandmother. Those disabled by
this bombardment
didn't get to go to Alyn.
Two days before the shelling of Beit Hanoun, our forces also fired a
missile that hit the
minibus transporting children to the Indira Gandhi kindergarten in
Beit Lahia. Two kids,
passersby, were killed on the spot. The teacher, Najwa Khalif, died a
few days later. She was
wounded in clear view of her 20 small pupils, who were sitting in the
minibus. After her death,
the children drew a picture: a row of children lying bleeding, their
teacher in the front, and an Israeli plane bombing them. At the Indira Gandhi kindergarten, we had
to bid good-bye to
Gaza, too: Since then, we haven't been able to cross into the Strip.
But the children have come to us. In November, 31 children were killed
in Gaza. One of
them, Ayman al-Mahdi, died in Sheba Medical Center at Tel Hashomer, where
he had been rushed in grave condition. Only his uncle was permitted to stay with him during his final days.
A fifth-grader, Ayman had been sitting with friends on a bench on a street
in Jabalya, right by
his school. A bullet fired from a tank struck him. He was just 10 years old.
IDF troops killed children in the West Bank, too. Jamil Jabaji, a boy
who tended horses in the
new Askar refugee camp, was shot in the head. He was 14 when he was
killed, last December. He and his friends were throwing rocks at the armored vehicle that passed by the camp, located near Nablus. The driver provoked the children, slowing
down and speeding up,
slowing down and speeding up, until finally a soldier got out, aimed
at the boy's head and
fired. Jamil's horses were left in their stable, and his family was
left to mourn.
And what did 16-year-old Taha al-Jawi do to get himself killed? The
IDF claimed that he tried
to sabotage the barbed-wire fence surrounding the abandoned Atarot
airport; his friends said
he was just playing soccer and had gone to chase after the ball. Whatever
the circumstances, the response from the soldiers was quick and decisive:
a bullet in the leg that
caused him to bleed to death, lying in a muddy ditch by the side of
the road. Not a word of
regret, not a word of condemnation from the IDF spokesman, when we
asked for a comment.
Live fire directed at unarmed children who weren't endangering anyone,
with no prior warning.
Abir Aramin was even younger; she was just 11. The daughter of an
activist in the Combatants for Peace organization, in January she left her school in Anata and was on the way to buy candy in a little shop. She was fired upon from a Border
Police vehicle. Bassam,
her father, told us back then with bloodshot eyes and in a strangled
voice: "I told myself that I don't want to take revenge. Revenge will be for this 'hero,' who was
so 'threatened' by my
daughter that he shot and killed her, to stand trial for it." But just a few days ago the authorities announced that the case was being closed: The Border Police apparently acted appropriately.
"I'm not going to exploit my daughter's blood for political purposes.
This is a human outcry.
I'm not going to lose my mind just because I lost my heart," the grieving
father, who has many Israeli friends, also told us.
In Nablus, we documented the use of children as human shields - the
use of the so-called
"neighbor procedure" - involving an 11-year-old girl, a 12-year-old
boy and a 15-year-old boy.
So what if the High Court of Justice has outlawed it? We also recorded
the story of the death
of baby Khaled, whose parents, Sana and Daoud Fakih, tried to rush him
to the hospital in
the middle of the night, a time when Palestinian babies apparently
mustn't get sick: The baby
died at the checkpoint.
In Kafr al-Shuhada (the "martyrs' village") south of Jenin, in March,
15-year-old Ahmed Asasa
was fleeing from soldiers who had entered the village. A sniper's
bullet caught him in the
neck.
Bushra Bargis hadn't even left her home. In late April she was studying for
a big test, notebooks in hand, pacing around her room in the Jenin refugee camp in the early evening,
when a sniper shot her in the forehead from quite far away. Her bloodstained notebooks bore witness to her final moments.
And what about the unborn babies? They weren't safe either. A bullet in the
back of Maha Qatuni, a woman who was seven months pregnant and got up during the night to protect her
children in their home, struck her fetus in the womb, shattering its
head. The wounded mother lay in the Rafidiya Hospital in Nablus, hooked up to numerous
tubes. She was going
to name the baby Daoud. Does killing a fetus count as murder? And how
"old" was the deceased? He was certainly the youngest of the many children Israel
killed in the past year.
Happy New Year.
Posted by: the truth | October 1, 2007 4:46 PM
bombs away! oh i almost forgot, they already have a democratically elected president, and probably won't be needing our democracy spreading services.
Posted by: sam | October 1, 2007 4:48 PM
one more thing! i personally don't think EU and russia will stand by and watch us try to gobble up ALL of the middle east natural gas reserves. you can fool me once ... etc.
Posted by: sam | October 1, 2007 4:49 PM
Iran is a peace-loving country, it has no homosexuals, is a leader in Human Rights for all its citizens, especially the rights of women... and its nuclear program is exclusively for peaceful uses.
PLEASE!!!
Posted by: T.L EDDY | October 1, 2007 4:50 PM
They want war and will stop at nothing. The neocons in power will do what they did last time --
1) stage or allow another major terrorist attack,
2) fabricate a trail of evidence that leads to Ahmedinejad,
3) declare war.
It is such a transparent technique at this point. Provoke a provocation, then "retaliate". Rinse, repeat. Our current administration is one of the most evil and violent regimes in history. We need a regime change in America.
Our so-called 'leaders' and 'representatives' have totally disgraced this nation, and it appears they are only getting started. Congress and the Senate (minus Ron Paul and a few others) have been entirely complicit in this totally immoral and unprovoked invasion. WE are the axis around which the evil of the world rotates.
Posted by: S S | October 1, 2007 4:52 PM
The whole white house is packed with lies. Someone should paint it black. Seymour Hersh proven to be right every time. Its the US, who engineering a coup for a democratically elected government in Iran and Installed Shah. Americans should call for a referendum to ban the Republican Party.
Posted by: Kawser Ahmed | October 1, 2007 4:56 PM
John D,
Do explain why you day in and day out continue to hold water for General Musharaf. Isn't he one of the unelected dictators Bush said he would stop doing business with after 9/11? Bin Laden and Zawahiri are living comfortably in Pakistan. Why is it only "the loony left" who is bothered by that?
Is it possible that our support for Musharaf during this period will go down as just as self-defeating as our support for other GOP favorites of yore like The Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.
My position is this: first, finish the freakin' job in Afghanistan, and that includes ratcheting up pressure on Musharaf. If we are going to risk the ire of the entire Muslim world, maybe we should make our goal catching Bin Laden and stopping Al Qaeda, rather than Crusading around in Iran. Why don't we regularly send Predator drones into the tribal region to at least make our REAL enemies less comfortable?
The best thing America could possibly do for Islamic Funamentalism, and to guarantee another generation of emnity with Persia, would be to attack them preventatively, as we are clearly planning to do.
On Iran: there is nearly unanimous agreement in all stratas of Iranian society of their right to nuclear technology. We will not be able to install a puppet who will disavow it, and an attack by the U.S. would cause all the moderates who currently want the government to fall to rally as any nationalist would behind the government who is fighting the invaders/crusaders. So a military strike will be self-defeating.
To the jingoistic moron who says if Iran wants a nuke we should just drop one on them, what exactly are we trying to accomplish? Or have you, in rather barbaric fashion, truly hit to the core of what we are about? Is it simply vengeance, and bloodlust?
The ONLY hope for getting Iran away from its nuclear program is a grand bargain. Put everything on the table including normalized relations. Couple that with the stick of increased sanctions. TAKE THE LEAD, don't leave it up to the Europeans. The Iranians know that we're the ones who really matter, so quit messing with the Europeans and send Condi over there and let's really talk it out.
A bombing campaign will not end Iran's nuclear program, but may set it back 5-10 years IF WE REALLY KNOW WHERE THEIR FACILITIES ARE, you know, just how we knew Saddam's WMD's were "east south and north of Baghdad" according to Rumsfeld. If there is already enrichment taking place, an attack will spread radioactive fallout for hundreds if not thousands of miles. We don't have troops to pacify the country if the government falls. We will be turning a country of moderates (the populous is done with the revolution, but the mullahs maintain a tentative hold on power) into a cesspool of terrorism. We will be strenghening the hand of the ruling elites, while causing the people great hardship, and in the end they'll still want nukes and will want to attack us 1000 times more.
Is the goal to prove that this is a "Clash of Civilizations?" Or are we just trying to help Al Qaeda promote as many new followers as humanly possible with our self-defeating militarism?
Posted by: Distrust and Verify | October 1, 2007 4:57 PM
God and His Christ is the real and only answer for all of us. Anything but Jehovah and Jesus Christ is a substitute, or false idol. For the end of the idol, and peace at last, read the book of Revelation....last book in the Holy Bible.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2007 5:07 PM
IMPEACH!!!!! Thats the only way to get rid of this lying, sly, bunch in the White House. They dont care what the American people want, or what the UN want, they do what they want! Bush is the decider remember? And he will not wait, nor care what the rest of the world thinks and will only do what he feels is right. If we had listened to the UN, we wouldnt be in IRAQ, and for sure wouldnt be there ALONE, carrying the burden, by our troops and our $$$$$$ spent each minute. Diplomatically? Bush doesnt even think we should talk to this country, remember? All spring and summer he was bashing anyone that went over there to try to talk to Iran and work something out. Bush and his regeim will go into Iran, and the rest of the wolrd will sit back and watch how our country, in these short 7 years has went from a leader to a destroyer of nations, and why? Because We the American people WENT SHOPPING, instead of actually paying attention to what is and was going on. More of the American People stood in line for I-Phones and Halo 3 than will or would have stodd up agains this president. it seems we sit back and go with the flow. I think the movie Idiocracy may have been forseeing something true for us unfortunately. STAND UP PEOPLE, take back the country, WE THE PEOPLE, ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE DECIDERS, NOT SOME TEXAS OIL MILLIONAIRE, WHO WILL ONLY PROFIT FROM THIS. WAKE UP AMERICA, we are "sheep and we are staning in line for slaughter" Do SOMETHING!!!!!
Posted by: Karen Yeakley | October 1, 2007 5:12 PM
I agree with SS on the stage/allow a domestic terror attack.
It's no coincidence that our media has fed us stories about the likelihood of "when" and not "if" a major attack will take place.
And given how stretched thin our troop strength is one can only surmise that the draft will be in place before the election. The ruling party has nothing to lose on that one. Then Jeb will waltz in 2012 like some paper champion who rescinds the draft and blames it all on dems.
I can't ride a bike to work. It's too far away. Of course, there's always the Mad Max outlaw scenario...
Posted by: Conspiratoid | October 1, 2007 5:25 PM
Norman Podhoretz appeared on C-SPAN's "After Words" discussing his book 'World War IV' and encouraging the U.S. to "Bomb Iran" - Jews get others to fight and die for them!
The very cerebral, measured, rational Charles Pena, Senior Fellow at the Independent Institute,questioned Mr.Podhorets and exposed the evil face of the neocons!
I can only hope that real Americans can prevail and stop the pernicious efforts of the neocons to attack Iran! These "ugly Americans" should be sent to Guantanimo so America can earn back its credibility.
The 9-11 Report revealed that the attack on the WTC and the Pentagon was to protest the presence of U.S. forces in Saudi Arabia and our support for Israel. Bin Laden pressed Mohammed to stage the attacks as early as mid-2000 after Ariel Sharon offended many Muslims by visiting the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and then tried to accelerate the operation again when he learned Sharon would be visiting the White House in June or July 2001.
We have removed our forces from Saudi Arabia, but we still support Israel and if that support makes us vulnerable for another terrorist attack, obviously it is not prudent to continue that support! The lives and safety of 300 million Americans should not be jeopardized.
Chagrined,
M. Delphia Block
Posted by: M.Delphia Block | October 1, 2007 5:28 PM
Interesting comments here. I'm always amazed at how some quickly show their ignorance, stupidity and hatred, and understand why they always use catchy names so as to hide their identity. Brother Joseph is one of these individuals who come to mind. I wonder what connection King Abdullah of Jordan, our ally, ruling the world has to do with bombing Iran????
As for Jeff Miller, who did give his full name, Iran is not an Arab country. But then again why would you care. As long as we kill any of "them" we're a better society right? I know that hate-filled people can never be reasoned with and I am fearful for the large number that we have within our midst who wrap themselves around the flag yet have no clue what that flag represents.
Posted by: Nadeem Salem | October 1, 2007 5:35 PM
Nadeem Salem, Are you a jew? I read your article and it sound like an Israeli want to be? President of Iran has not threaten U.S.! Israel is the one that is terrorizing the world. United Nation countries agree. Just look at how many resolutions have passed condemning the zionist nation and its actions.
Posted by: Michael S | October 1, 2007 5:44 PM
It makes me sick to my stomach to even think about a possible attack on Iran. What makes me even more sick is knowing that there are people out there who support such an idea. Did you swear an oath that you would believe EVERYTHING the president and his cohorts tell you? I don't want to hear that the "liberal media" doesn't tell the truth and that the world is all rosy and the war in Iraq is going well - they are the biggest to blame for spreading the garbage this administration spews. Start reading non-traditional news sources and find out the truth.
Posted by: Danielle | October 1, 2007 5:53 PM
All for the damned Israelis
Posted by: Hyman Rothstein | October 1, 2007 6:01 PM
The "Qwerty" cowboys are out in force today. I'm glad the adults will be in charge in '09. Let's hope it's not too late. The Rapture-Ready-Republican solution to failed wars...more wars. Third time's the charm, is that it?
Meanwhile, the dollar is rapidly becoming as worthless as Bush's foreign policy. Things will really get interesting when foreign investors bail and interest rates in this country hit double digits again. And you thought the Bears being 1-3 was something to fret about.
Posted by: dt | October 1, 2007 6:09 PM
This form is aptly named. Every lefty nutcase with short curcuit brain cells crawls up out of this blog to spew half baked conspiracy theories. You are correct people and if I were you and believed your bull---- I would surly leave this country.........QUICK..GO!
Posted by: airplanejim | October 1, 2007 6:22 PM
Hi. I like fishing for carp. Be my friend?
Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2007 6:25 PM
King Abdullah has a beautiful wife and has always been a friend of the U.S. How would he become ruler of the world if we attack Iran? I'm so confused now. Maybe he owns a lot of stock in US defense contractors? I like fishing.
Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2007 6:33 PM
Sing it: Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war... ouch! - Who just shot me in the face?
Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2007 6:43 PM
The NeoCon strategy to get us into Iraq worked. That is why they are using the same formula to get us into Iran. To find out that they planned this before 9/11, go to their web site at http://www.newamericancentury.org/
Note that they have posted publications that they are actually proud of. And in their 80 page manifesto written in 1997 they say what their aims are and that "a pearl harbor type event" would be necessary to achieve their goals. And then after the "pearl harbor type event" (9/11), they write this: "But even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack, any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq."
These guys have a plan. They are executing it. Just like with Hitler and the Nazis, it would have behoved the world to pay attention to "Mein Kampf", we should read what the twentyfirst century fascists have planned for our "new world order."
Posted by: lorax | October 1, 2007 6:46 PM
WHEN WILL YOU ALL RELISE THAT THIS ADMINASTRATION CANT AND WILL NOT TELL AMERICANS THE TRUTH.
AND YOU ALL WANT MORE WHY BECAUSE HILLARY IS GOING TO WIN, WHAT A JOKE..
GO AHEAD AMERICA YOU ALL READY LET BUSH SELL US OUT WHY NOT CONTINUE SELLING THE REST OUT..WE ALREADY OWE CHINA 1 TRILLION DOLLARS,OH I MEAN YOUR GRANDCHILDREN,AND GREAT GRANDCHILDEN OWE COMMINMIST CHINA..
Posted by: DAVID A BELANGER | October 1, 2007 6:48 PM
In response to "Bush isn't perfect, but at least he has a spine. America is doomed with your attitude.
Posted by: W. W. | October 1, 2007 4:41 PM
You forgot to put the suffix "less" at the end of spine. Bush was so brave that he insisted on serving his country and diligently offered his serves to the National Guard in between service at the local bar.
And America isn't doomed already? How can we be when we have almost a trillion dollar deficit and China owns us. Brave Bush will save you; he will let good American children drop bombs and die in the killing fields while he and Cheney reminisce.
Posted by: the truth | October 1, 2007 6:48 PM
If you care about our country (and are not here to merely complain & create wedges within our own country & people), serve others...love your neighbor as yourself. Offer your life as a sacrifice for good & peace (a "living" offering). Search your heart for what you are truly speaking for. If you really want possitive change, understand you only control the variables that you have in your hands...dedicate your life to making possitve & good come from those. If all the people "speaking" about our government & politics did this, we wouldn't be where we are. We need good leaders, not good complainers. Lets put our lives where are words are and offer our lives as living sacrifices to all that is good, peacefull & loving. As long as there are bad actions or as I call "sin", there will and should be war. If you really care about people losing their lives, offer your life up...serve others. Eat out less & give to others more. SPend less time watching tv and movies and spend more time mentoring a child. Walk more and drive less. Act more and talk less. Think before you speak. search your heart to find your true intentions before acting or speaking abruptly.
I promise to try my best at this, though without perfection, with perseverance & without ever giving up.
Posted by: Jay | October 1, 2007 7:15 PM
Dear "Truth"
No one read your eight hundred paragraph post.
Posted by: Ted | October 1, 2007 7:49 PM
To Jay... Nice sentiment, but in this "dog eat dog world", your intentions are futile. Power and money are the gods worshipped in this world. People like you, good-hearted as you are, are used as doormats.
The "wedges" being created among our people are those created by a leader and his supporters to keep their reign of terror using the War on Terror. 9/11 was not unexpected to them - they knew it was coming and they blessed the day it came. The 3000 lives that died on 9/11 were sacrificial lambs at the altar of the neo-cons. If we are to coexist in this world, all nations in the Middle East must give up their WMD's - this includes Pakistan, Israel, India. I just bet you if Israel gave up its WMD's, Iran would fall into place and be a complacent member of the global community. But of course, Israel and the IDF would prefer killing little children rather than coexisting peacefully with its neigbors - how else can Israel connive to extricate billions of dollars of aid from Ameican taxpayers while poor American children can't even get proper health care.
Jay, if you want to offer yourself as a sacrifice for good and peace, do what Rachel Corrie did , She was killed when she tried to obstruct a Caterpillar D9 armoured bulldozer operated by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to prevent the demolition of the home of Samir Nasrallah, a local pharmacist in Gaza.
Posted by: the truth | October 1, 2007 8:09 PM
So much anti-Semitism and Christian hating nonsense in here. But that is the Loony Left = all hate, all the time. Except the Loons do love Iran, Libya, China, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuala.
And, of course, the Tribune loves to spread the Jew-hating, Christian-hating message day in, day out.
Posted by: John D | October 1, 2007 8:25 PM
Ted,
It doesn't matter if it was read or not - what matters is that it was printed and is available to be read. What are you afraid of? The truth?
Posted by: the truth | October 1, 2007 8:36 PM
You people make me sick. Bush isn't perfect, but at least he has a spine. America is doomed with your attitude.
Posted by: W. W. | October 1, 2007 4:41 PM
Then leave W. W. Freedom of speech, just watch what you say!
Posted by: Force of Darkness | October 1, 2007 8:39 PM
Voice of America and Fiasco at Persian Service.
There is no need to attack Iran IF the Bush administration pays attention:
Millions of dollars are spent in Persian Service of Voice of America but the end result is nothing but scandalous way of cockamamie management and programming.
It is hard to believe but the Persian Service which supposed to be an organization to convey the policy of the U.S. has become a free platform for hard-line terrorist group of communists who attack the United Sates!
I have the documents in writings to prove that these were done with the full knowledge of the management.
I used to work there and as I said before, I have all the documents in writings.
The manager is a woman called Sheila Gandji who can not read and write Persian. Therefore, in order to hide this shortcoming from the higher management, she has hired an eighty something man called Kambiz Mahmoudi who has a lengthy background as crook and in charlatanism.
You expect a doctor to be in charge of a medical clinic. You expect an engineer to be in charge of an engineering department. You expect a plumber to fix your plumbing.
So why do you expect a person who has no education in Iran and doesn't know the language of that country should be in charge of publicity, literature or politic for such position?
Sheila Gandji falsely pretended and presented herself as educated with background in journalism. These are absolute fabrications. Nobody in Iranian communities inside of the country or outside has any knowledge about her being a journalist, then and now.
Her partner, Kambiz Mahmoudi is a hateful and despicable person whose activities as crook are widely known through out Iran. Can't the U.S. government appoint somebody without such shameful background and baggage?
Don’t think that this is a personal vendetta.
Let me quote you a view from another media:
"The Iran Steering group concluded that much of the anti-American perspective that is broadcast is the result of decisions made by station managers in Washington D.C. and Prague. Sheila Gandji, the manager of Persian service has faced sharp criticism, particularly for her decision to stop VOA shortwave radio program in July, 2006 in order to focus on television broadcasts, which are more susceptible to censorship, since the government regularly confiscates satellites dishes in order to prevent the infiltration of foreign broadcasts."
And this is not the only one. The mismanagement at the Persian Service of Voice of America is the subject of hundreds of web sites and articles in newspapers indicative of disgusts and ridicules in the world about VOA.
The bizarre situation at the Persian Service of Voice of America caused even the Republican Senator Coburn to write a long letter to President Bush about the fiasco there.
It is only in America where the government pays to be insulted. Really, why Voice of America is doing this harm to our nation?
Posted by: Kian Kiani | October 1, 2007 9:03 PM
Come on folks, just use your common sense. If Iran invaded Israel or any Christian nation, Canada or Mexico, we would be nuking them to death
So, as logic follows, we invade Iraq, a sovereign Muslim country, and don"t expect Iran to come to their aid?
These neocons are nothing but war-mongers and won't be satisfied until the last atomic bomb falls or Christ brings about Armageddon...they are truly nuts! Of course in Iran, they believe that after the great holy war, the Inman will return and save the world...what's the difference? Same God, different name. Bible Prophecy only predicts what we will do, not the righteousness of it. this scenario, which the universe "knows" has been created by US. We are THE self-fulfilling prophecy!
Posted by: Linda Lutes | October 1, 2007 9:46 PM
What is this administration's problem? Has it learned nothing from the war in Iraq?
Now they're going to bomb Iran to ensure that their plan in Iraq has a better chance of succeeding, and thus silencing their critics.
This is adolescent thinking. There is no better word to describe it.
Posted by: cbmtrx | October 1, 2007 10:51 PM
AQ Khan's (father of the paki bomb) network sold Iran centrifuge technology identical to that used by pakistan to build its bomb. This is not like Iraq, nobody, not even Iran denies it has the capability to enrich uranium and it is currently doing so.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/khan-iran.htm
For those of you who don't know, basic nukes are so easy to make that all you really need is the enriched uranium. If anyone remembers their WWII history, the gun type device was not even tested as it was so simple. Once you have highly enriched uranium you are only moments away from having your city destroyer.
btw, all religions are licensed insanity at best and evil at worst. If you sat in front of psychologist and told them what you believe, but changed the names of the people and places, they would lock you up with a lifetime supply of prozac.
Posted by: Nuclear Genie | October 1, 2007 11:00 PM
I seriously don't think anyone is wanting another war.I have a son in Iraq right now and want him home ! but someone somehow need's to bring this little man in Iran now it's time for him to worry about feeding his country and shut him up with the threat's he makes. This is not Democrat or Republican this is survival of the fittest and this little guy in Iran need's to shut his mouth or expect to have it shut .
Posted by: Steve | October 1, 2007 11:22 PM
The liberal idiot believes he can be nice to the fanatical Muslim, cowtow to the dictator of Iran, abandon Israel, and appease our true enemies to create a world of peace. This is dangerous fantasy. In today's world, liberal = idiot!
Posted by: delilah | October 1, 2007 11:38 PM
Too late. . .the element of surprise has already been lost.
There is absolutely no reason to invade Iran. We should of done that long time ago. This is no longer a good time.
Iran's military is much better and stronger than it was 10 years ago. We will win. . .but at what cost are you guys willing to sacrafice?
Posted by: Lou | October 2, 2007 1:15 AM
Hersch is a million times more credible than this White House.
More importantly, if the US preventatively attacks Iran, they will probably destroy Saudi Arabian oil facilities.
Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US, is instigating the limiting of Iranian influence in the region, and most importantly, any destroyed Saudi infrastructure can be blamed on a diabolical US plot due to US military operations in the area (i.e. fog of war).
The Pentagon recently war gamed a war with Iran, and it found that the US could minimize economic damage. This game didn't consider the asymetric strategy of Iran attacking Saudi oil facilities, which would be a kick in the balls to the US and world economy, and would dramatically increase the value of Iranian oil and associated facilities.
Posted by: Brad Arnold | October 2, 2007 2:30 AM
We know Bush has been planning for taking Iran completing the oil field/transit picture. We see the shifting lies for rationale. We know are troubles with Iran did not start in '79 but '53 when Bush buddy and fellow Nazi Dulles toppled the democracy and installed a brutal dictator. We know Bush lied about rationale for war in Iraq, that he was planning war from the start and 9-11 was a false pretext. Why do we not question the many disturbing facts of 9-11 itself? When will we have a real investigation?
Posted by: eric harger | October 2, 2007 8:10 AM
There are always plans for attacking Iran, North Korea, Communist China, etc. They are contineously updated, then filed away. Many countries have contingency plans for war. Any major country that says they don't have such plans is lying.
Posted by: Darkwater | October 2, 2007 11:26 AM
The illiteracy of these comments is astounding.
The "Commander Guy?"
Are you refering to the Top Commander in Iraq?
Or, the "Commander in Chief Guy?"
These comments remind me of the old phrase,
"Opinions are like mouths...everybody has one,"
Well...retrospectively, that is.
Why don't you guys take out a full page ad in
Al Jazeera. I'm sure the Islamic Radicals would
love to hear from you.
Posted by: Gerald McCotter | October 2, 2007 11:53 AM
Iranian regime eviels they want to destroy the world they occupaied Iraq tranied the militia to kill Iraqi and shoot American troops I agree and whish if America attack Iran then your troops return and the dangrous of the eviel end
Posted by: Uhoud | October 2, 2007 2:20 PM
I think bush is an a great president but I don't agree with the war im only 13 but I still care
Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2007 2:47 PM
Please don't forget there are other consequences to attacking Iran, weather it be a suisidal ground invasion or an insane nuclear strike. Iran supplies OIL to CHINA and RUSSIA. Iran wont be our only enemy if we manage to occupy thier country. There is a reason china and russia oppose sanctions aginst Iran, and it is because they are politically and economiclly co-dependant.
Iran is the doorway to World War III. I hope to god even you war mongering bush supporters can see why we shouldn't take that path. China has far more millitary power than the USA. Not to mention that, thanks to the US, china has none of the debt that we have.
Posted by: Harry Styers | October 3, 2007 1:48 PM