Giuliani, Clinton and the Senate race that wasn't: The Swamp
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Posted November 28, 2007 11:06 AM
The Swamp

by Frank James

Political reporter Adam Nagourney has an interesting retrospective in today's New York Times on the race that never was, the widely anticipated but aborted Year 2000 contest for a Senate seat from New York between then First Lady Hillary Clinton and New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The premise for the story is that, if the electoral stars align just right in Iowa, New Hampshire and a spate of states on Feb. 5, these two could face off in 2008 and political junkies will finally have the contest they were denied when Giuliani withdrew from the 2000 Senate race, mainly because he didn't have the fire in the belly to be in the Senate.

After being chief executive of a city of eight million souls, being one of 100 in a deliberative body didn't appeal to Giuliani, Nagorney makes clear. It sounds like Giuliani was, for the most part, just going through the motions, not even talking much about federal issues in a race for a federal office.

An aspect missing from the story however is that there was a very real sense during that 2000 campaign that Sen. Clinton's belly fire of ambition raged beyond the Senate all the way to the White House. Many believed she didn't see her political future ending in that deliberative body of 100 either.

There was the strong suspicion that for Clinton the New York Senate race was just a way station for the most glittering of all the political prizes, the White House.

There was this from a June 14, 2000 op-ed piece written by Ross Baker, the well-known Rutgers University political scientist:

To hear Rep. Rick Lazio tell it, voting for Democratic Senate nominee Hillary Rodham Clinton should be likened to casting a ballot for an undocumented immigrant or an extraterrestrial.

The Republican Senate nominee has breathed new life into the argument that Clinton is just dropping by the State of New York on her way to the White House, and real New Yorkers should spurn her advances in favor of a guy who dug his youthful toes into the sands of Great South Bay.

Then there's this from a Nov. 29, 2000 Steve Neal column in the Chicago Sun-Times:

Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2004?

The senator-elect from New York, who is moving out of the White House, is hoping to return as the first woman president of the United States. It's not so wild a dream. As the rising star of national Democratic politics, she is in a strong position to win her party's nomination.

Even though she has vowed to serve out her six-year senatorial term, New York voters won't hold her to that pledge. Robert F. Kennedy sought the presidency four years after his election to the senatorial seat that Clinton will soon be sitting in. There's no doubt that her eyes are on the prize.

Neal was right in terms of the big picture though he was off by four years in terms of timing.

If anything, there's an irony in all this. Because Giuliani was mayor of the nation's largest city, he didn't need the Senate to establish his credibility as an eventual White House candidate, which was only enhanced in the eyes of many by his 9/11 performance.

Meanwhile, Clinton desperately needed to win the Senate to give her presidential aspirations some street cred. So in a way it can be argued that the striking thing about that 2000 race was that both Giuliani and Clinton were, in their own ways, looking beyond the Senate.

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Yeah I am sure the fact taht Guliani was fighting cancer at the time had nothing to do with him not running.


What a misstatement and misquote by Frank James when he writes, "Giuliani withdrew from the 2000 Senate race, mainly because he didn't have the fire in the belly to be in the Senate." Nagourney reported in the article James claims to quote that GIULIANI LEFT THE RACE TO FIGHT HIS PROSTATE CANCER. Sure, some OTHERS said he lost interest, but anyone who has had prostate cancer knows it is a tough, debillitating fight. Nagourney is no friend of Giuliani, nor is the NY Times, but at least Nagourney reported accurately the reason Rudy gave. What is it with you guys?


Why didn't Giuliani (I still say that name's too difficult to spell and will be his doom) run against Hillary in 2006? That would have made him the hero of the party and have boosted his prez hopes.

Answer: Because New Yorkers know him too well. He's better off trying to sell "Super Mayor" to the country.


1. Rudy promised the GOP he'd stop hillary from getting to the Senate.

END OF STORY. RUDY FAILED and didn't keep his promise. (I've got thousands more of these.)

FACT: Rudy used his prostate cancer like Kerik used the nanny excuse. FACT: Rudy's public schedule AFTER he announced his cancer, PROVES he lied about that being the reason he couldn't slay Hillary.

HE BETRAYED ALL YOU DUMB GOP voters and you morons don't care! Ha ha!

IN fact, if you do your homework, you'd know Rudy put hillary INTO the senate in many ways (such as stalling til the last minute so Rick Lazio couldn't catch up to her).

NO WONDER POLITICIANS LIE ALL THE TIME.

Most voters are dumbasses who believe whatever politicians and reporters say!


Giuliani and Clinton are spiritually bankrupt. Rudy is a serial adulterer who has no relationship with his children and Hillary has either through indifference or a broken heart tolerated Bill's serial adultery. How can you run a country when your personal life is such an enormous heart-wrenching burden? These are sad, broken people.

Obama '08


I would say leaving to fight PROSTATE CANCER is a pretty good excuse wouldnt you. Clearly you have never seen what fighting cancer does to people.


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