No end to Dem-GOP fighting on Capitol Hill

As the Politico noted, eight of the 17 Republicans who aren't running for re-election are centrists, and some of their seats stand a good chance of now being picked up by Democrats, not new Republican moderates.

The Wingnuts are going to get destroyed in 08 (thankyou Prez 24% and Dark Dick), but the best part about it is listening to the "true believer" Wingnuts like Lil Johnny D'nosepicker and RNC Brucie who continue to fail to see the writing on the wall.

"The Legacy Of The Bush Administration and The Republican Party Of Today"
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This will continue as we have members on both sides passing and accepting legislations that our inimical to the American people and to our Constitutional principles.

AS long as the mentality of this exists by those on the Left, I am not worried about the GOP not doing well in future elections:

From our resident uneducated mental patient John E., comes this:

The Wingnuts are going to get destroyed in 08 (thankyou Prez 24% and Dark Dick), but the best part about it is listening to the "true believer" Wingnuts like Lil Johnny D'nosepicker and RNC Brucie who continue to fail to see the writing on the wall.

Lil Johnny D'nosepicker?

Well, John E., I guess that is better than what you are, which is an a--picker.

Term limits.
The only answer.
Trouble is everyone is against term limits, if they think their man is good.
The longer anyone is in office, the more power they have, the more pork they create.
I think two terms should be the max. for any office holder.
Furthermore, I think they should be banned from working as lobbyists after they leave office.
Also, I think they should be banned from holding any interest in or being employed by businesses directly doing business with the government. Especially defense contractors.

“It’s not a good time to be a moderate in American politics,” said Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.). “Ask Joe Lieberman.”

Joe LIEberman is not a moderate, he was kicked out of the Democratic Party because he acts to much like a war-mongering Republican not because he choose to do so on his own

Congress, in general, has moved to the right, IMO. The Republican right to the far right. The Republican moderates to the right. The Democratic left to the center, the Democratic center to right of center.

Even if you disagree with this assessment, at the very least, the Democratic Party has not moved further to the left, while the Republican Party has most certainly moved to the right (toward Rick Santorum territory).

No one can tell me that Harold Ford is a liberal Democrat, or even a moderate. He's more conservative than a lot of Republicans. Hillary Clinton is certainly no liberal, she like her husband Bill are centrist.

Anyway, the whole "scale" of political ideology has been rendered meaningless by rnc bruce, Crazy John, Sunshine Jerry and all the kool-aid carrying nut-job pundits who label anyone who differs with them as far- left liberals.

(And btw, "liberal" is a good thing)

Maybe we should all take Mark Skousen advice on the subject:

Avoid Being Close-Minded

A second reason why I avoid the left-right labels is that it puts people and ideas into boxes. When someone's theories are labeled and compartmentalized, thinking stops and name-calling begins. There has been far too much bad blood spilt over the years between camps that spend more time shouting epithets than engaging in legitimate dialogue.

This criticism applies equally to the worn out adjectives "liberal" and "conservative." If John Kenneth Galbraith is a "liberal," why should conservatives listen to him'? If Milton Friedman is a "conservative," why should liberals read his books? I try not to prejudice myself. To me, both are economists who have ideas worth examining.

The media will continue to use the hackneyed political lexicon of yesteryear and engage in character assassination. But I will resist the outdated and misleading left-wing/right-wing/liberal-conservative battlelines, and treat every scholar, candidate, and philosopher on his own merits, and not according to some arbitrary label.

Joe Lieberman is to the right of the majority of Republicans. A "centrist" he is not.

I think the comments here from dt, John E., Jones about Lieberman being a conservative, Congress (lead by liberal Demoncrats) being conservative, show that these are true Left-wing Loons. Those folks won't be happy until Hugo Chavez is president of the U.S. and Kim Jong Il is Speaker of the House.

"Anyone who follows Congress and cares about its endangered tradition of compromise..."

Yeah, what happened to the good old days were pork and bribes were all it took to get things passed!

Really though, voters on both sides really need to wake up and find some agreement on things that matter and impact almost everyone on a daily basis -- education, healthcare, economic policy and job creation, foreign policy -- and quit getting suckered into battles over wedge issues. If the offer was lower taxes costs and unemployment, more access to affordbale healthcare, better public education and homeland security, and the trade off was no amendment against gay marriage and no overturning Roe v Wade, how many would be willing to make that deal for the betterment of millions of Americans?

John D...Mark Skousen is right, you prove his point (Avoid being close-minded, above). Your tiresome rants are the epitome of "hackneyed political lexicon".

I find it amusing that you manage to interject, Chavez and other straw men into nearly every one of your wooden dummy arguments. I've not heard a single liberal on this blog ever endorse Chavez, other than to remind you that he was democratically elected president through Venezuela's parliamentary election system (unlike Bush, who was handed the presidency by the Supreme Court). Sometimes it's a case of "careful what you wish for", lil' Johnny. You know, kinda like Iraq. I suppose you are one of the Pat Robertson acolytes who think the U.S. should "arrange" for Hugo's assassination?

I think the comments here from dt, John E., Jones about Lieberman being a conservative, Congress (lead by liberal Demoncrats) being conservative, show that these are true Left-wing Loons. Those folks won't be happy until Hugo Chavez is president of the U.S. and Kim Jong Il is Speaker of the House.

Posted by: John D | November 20, 2007 3:23 PM

Thanks for validating the original point of this post by Frank James. Its whacky diatribes like the above from John D that drive divides between people. dt tries to make some sense on the topic of common ground, but into the "loon" hopper he gets put because one person disagrees with one point among many. So what do you want Johonny Dee, a response like "And John D will not be happy until Hitler is President and Mussolini is Secretary of State"? Mission accomplished!

"DEMS PUSH PUSH IN THE BUSH"

YOU HAVE TO, THESE GOP CIRCUMVENTED THE LAW IN EVERY WAY THEY COULD. AM I RIGHT OR WRONG? THESE GOP FILLIBUSTER SO CALLED STATESMAN HAVE VIRTUALLY STOPPED THE GOVERNMENT TO HIDE THEIR INVOLVEMENT, THEIR FUTURE INVOLVEMENT AND THE BOTTOMLINE INCOMPENTCY THAT THEY POSSESS.

LOOK AT THE ECONOMY! LOOK AT THE GAS! 3.56 A GALLON. LOOK AT THE FAILED POLICIES OF THE PATRIOT ACT, THE PROTECT AMERICA ACT, THEN THEY TRIED TO SLIP IN SBILL 1639 THAT WOULD HAVE CONSOLIDATED ALL FOUR BRANCHES OF GOVERNEMENT UNDER CHERTOF OR THE "secretary"

This GOP BUNCH OF BOEHNERS EVEN HELPED THIS PRESIDENT VETO EVERY DOMESTIC BILL THERE WAS TO PROTECT YOUR CHILD, YOUR CHILD'S FUTURE, YOUR CHILD'S EDUCATION, HEALTH, AND DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY AFFORDED TO THEM UNDER THE "preamble" of these UNITED STATES.

BUT OF COURSE IT'S THE DEMS BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING CONSTITUTIONAL STATEMEN AND WOMEN.

BOY THAT DAMN CONSTITUTION, IF ONLY THE GOP FILLIBUSTER, VETO, CIRCUMVENTING LAW BREAKERS COULD JUST DO AWAY WITH IT.

WHERE IS THE FCC WHEN YOU NEED THEM. LETS HAVE A MEETING AND I KNOW, LETS JUST SHUT THEIR NECKS AND TAKE AWAY THE REST OF THE FREE AIRWAVES, AND JUST BURY THAT 5TH AMENDMENT IN THE STALLS OF MINNESOTA.

WELL LET'S WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE PRIMARY, WE NEEDS TO STALLS!

TAP TAP, GOP, TAP TAP, WE KNOW YOU ARE ALL NAUGHTY, NAUGHTY BOYS, NAUGHTY LITTLE BOYS.

BUT THEN AGAIN, SANTA HAS A WHOLE LOT OF LEAD TO DELIVER! ASSIMILATION IS FUTILE - THE BORG

kb, the day and dt, john e, janet, and a host of other Lefties here will ever make any sense is the day the earth stops spinning.

Let's look at some facts here. In this thread, a traditional liberal like Joe Lierberman is attacked because he is not on the far left side.

The Democratic Congress is called, "conservative."

Sorry to break the news to you, but practically all the rancor and hate comes from the Left.

More examples? Many of the moderate Democrats elected in Republican-leaning Congressional districts are being targeted by Loony Lefty groups because they are not left enough.

Long-time liberal and one-time anti-war Congressman Brian Baird is now being targeted by the Left. Why? Because after his visiting Iraq earlier this year, checking the situation out, he now says we cannot leave Iraq while things are getting better.

dt says Harold Ford is a conservative!! While Ford is not a far leftie, he is a moderate liberal. The Democratic party is not moving to the right, it is moving to the Left.

As I have said before, anything and anyone to the right of Far Left is considered a centrist of conservative or right wingnut to you folks. Sorry, not the case.

A lot of good comments on this string, with exceptions from the usual suspect.

dt brings up an exceptionally good point about how far right we've moved, and that Hillary Clinton is by no means a 'Liberal'.

The rubber stamp Republics who voted in lock step w/Preznit 24% deserve to lose their seats. Yeah, they're less wacko than the worst of the wingnuts, but in a moderate district, they're out of step.

"kb, the day and dt, john e, janet, and a host of other Lefties here will ever make any sense is the day the earth stops spinning."

This makes no sense.

The Left, remove the and before dt, and then it makes sense. In other words, you folks will never make sense.