Obama to Clinton: Let's not play race, gender cards: The Swamp
The Swamp
Posted November 2, 2007 10:53 AM
The Swamp

by Mike Dorning

Barack Obama said this morning he isn't impressed with Hillary Clinton's efforts to portray this week's presidential debate as a group of male candidates piling on the sole female in the race.

He rather pointedly noted in an interview on NBC's Today Show this morning that he has not cast other candidates' criticism of him as white candidates going after the sole black in the race.

Here's the exchange with Matt Lauer this morning:

MR. LAUER: Let's start where Andrea left off, this idea that when the guys challenged the gal at this debate this week, that in some ways you were ganging up on her. And you heard what Senator Clinton said at Wellesley yesterday. She said that in some ways that all-women's college prepared her for the all-boys' club of presidential politics.

Now, it sounds to me, Senator, as if I just heard the gender card drop. How are you going to deal with it?

SEN. OBAMA: (Laughs.) Well, look, I am assuming and I hope that Senator Clinton wants to be treated like everybody else. And I think that that's why she's running for president.

You know, when we had a debate back in Iowa a while back, we spent, I think, the first 15 minutes of the debate hitting me on various foreign policy issues. And I didn't come out and say, "Look, I'm being hit on because I look different from the rest of the folks on the stage." I assumed it was because there were real policy differences there. And I think that has to be the attitude that all of us take. We're not running for the president of the city council. We're running for the presidency of the United States of America.

MR. LAUER: So you don't feel as if you have to be sensitive at all to this gender issue, that if you do vigorously challenge Senator Clinton that it might take on a more perilous tone than if you vigorously challenge a male candidate?

SEN. OBAMA: No, look, I don't think that people doubt that Senator Clinton is tough. She's used to playing in national politics. And, in fact, that is one of the things that she has suggested is why she should be elected is because she's been playing in this rough-and- tumble stage. So it doesn't make sense for her, after having run that way for eight months, the first time that people start challenging her point of view, that suddenly she backs off and says, "Don't pick on me."

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Excellent! Obama is exactly correct.

They are attacking Hillary because she is the front runner, end of story.

The odd thing: their attacks have merrit. Hillary evades questions unless she has a pre-packaged sound bite. Everything she says if focus grouped. She is just as phony, if not more so, that Mitt Romney.


I agree with Obama. Hey, if the Queen B wants to become president, then she better get used to being treated like any other candidate who ran for president. Don't be playing the damsel in distress, Queen B. You are not the annointed leader of the Dem party, and certainly not the annointed leader of the presidency. If you can't take the fight for the nomination, Queen B., then get out of the race. If you can't handle the heat of a political campaign, Queen B., then you sure as hell have no business being leader of the free world and president of the U.S.


She is just as phony, if not more so, that Mitt Romney.

Posted by: nisleib | November 2, 2007 11:09 AM

OUCH!! That's really saying something! Most likely true though. We really don't need another NeoCon in the White House, and Hillary appears to deserve that label.


Interesting comments form a guy that's played the race card from the day he was born!!


What hypocrisy. Obama and Edwards have been playing the gender game for months, sending their wives out to attack Clinton rather than doing it themselves, trying to marginalize her as a woman.

Obama's beginning to sound like he has no plan himself other than attacking Clinton.
I want to hear Obama talking about the criminal Bush administration, if he's going to give up illegal executive power gathered by Bush. Clinton was the first prez candidate to mention this, and say she WOULD let go of power she feels is illegal - I haven't heard Obama's opinion. THIS is the stuff he should be addressing.


While there is nothing wrong with appealing to a particular group of people, there is something wrong with expecting special treatment because of belonging to a particular group. Fact is, Hillary is a strong woman and should take the intellectual blows necessary in a Presidential candidate.


Interesting comments form a guy that's played the race card from the day he was born!!

Posted by: K. Parkham | November 2, 2007 11:47 AM

Kathleen, That must be why the media have reported that Obama might not be "black enough" for African-Americans.

HELLO!

Have you even been paying attention?

I've said from the start that Obama is inexperienced and would ultimately fail. But to suggest that he's played the race card is just plain ignorant.


The more desperate they get, the more they attack the front-runner. I hope she doesn't get desperate enough to start with their tactics, she's so far ahead, she doesn't need to.


Obama's strategy of focusing on / attacking Hillary is going to backfire, if it hasn't already. He would be better off focusing his energies and media time on the real issues that will face our next President and developing a strong platform. Frankly, his behavior in recent weeks have made me more likely to favor Hillary (who appears to be spending her time on policy and on challenging republical positions, rather than on attacking other democrats).


I love how this is being called Hillary's attempt to say they ganged up on a girl rather than the media's attempt to paint that picture... someone show me a quote where she says anything like that. She's many things, and stupid is not one.

Also love how Mike Dorning extends the media's poor reporting by saying that Obama "isn't impressed" with something Hilary didn't actually do anyway, when Obama shows a pretty measured response that doesn't take it as fact that she did make any statements like that.


Obama can not play the race card even if he wants to.
The African Americans who know him personally and their leadership such as Rev. Jackson, Bobby Rush, Emil Jones, Danny Davis and others know that Mr. Obama is only for Obama and not for African American community or anybody else. That's why there is no enthusiasm among those leaders.


This is rich coming from a guy said if won the nomination will bring out more black votes blah blah.

And I'm not even a Cliton fan


This video is a perfect example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggO5yY7RAo&eurl


The media and the boneheads out there love the use of the term "attack" is makes for good headlines.They are sensationalizing what is really happening. What does asking a candidate honest questions,asking for clarification, or to justify an opinion or statement have to do with attacking ? These are questions that need to be asked and answered and in what better way than in the spotlight, by other candidates. Hillary is not being "attacked" or insulted, she is just being asked for explanations to her apparent contradictory statements and evasive tactics.


What I want to know is this: why are we hearing Obama's response on this? Obama never "attacked" her - but Edwards kept complaining about how she's a sell-out to federal lobbyists. Why isn't he being interviewed about the "Clinton Pile-on"?

Are people beginning to confuse Edwards' unmitigated confrontations with Obama's more professional and civilized approach? Obama simply pointed out that Senator Clinton's professional stance is sloppy and inconsistent - he's not calling her out as a total fake.

Let's please make sure of the facts on this story.

P.S. I do agree with Obama that Senator Clinton can't complain about "boys' town politics" after her mailings on Obama "abandoning hope" when he sought to actually point out her poor policy decisions. I thought she was the experienced one...


So Clinton mentions that she is a woman playing in a man's game and suddenly the media and the rest of the candidates are up in arms about it? What is untrue about that statement? The US is 50% female and only 1 out of 17 presidential candidates is a female. This seems like a coordinated attack on Clinton when she is just stating the obvious. Not once did she act as a "damsel in distress" or complain that she's being untreated unfairly because she's a woman. This is a strawman being set up by the other candidates and the media.

PS. Obama, man of all talk and no action, has little to criticize Clinton about in terms of legislating. What has he done that is so groundbreaking and noteworthy besides giving a speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention?


1. Obama does talk about his life's influences, just as other canditates, but he has not played the race card. For example John Edwards does not let anybody forget that he came from a poor southen background, by this logic he is playing the "white trash" card.

2. Of course Obama in the election will bring out more Black voters. Just because he stated it does not mean he is playing the race card. How long has the Bushites played to the religion card, even proactively getting their vote out. Would you have stated they were playing the religion card?


Just answer the questions Hillary ... and quit dancing. Trying to pin you down is not an attack


How can Hillary blame her own bad performance on hatred against women? Every time she does something like this she makes a mockery of the real hardships many women face as a result of prejudice and discrimination. When someone criticizes Obama, he doesn't just play the race card. He actually addresses the issue, something which Senator Clinton has repeatedly refused to do. You can acknowledge the unique challenges created by being a minority running for president as long as you do not use it as a crutch to explain your own poor performance or a way to evade answering tough questions.


Someone please tell me what Obama has done for Illinois? What is any action on the CTA issue? Has he ever answered one question instead of hyperbole? He is Emil Jone's lackey and we all know it.


Anyone who feels that Clinton is NOT playing the damsel in distress card has not been paying attention to the official comments coming from her campaign about "pile on", Clinton being "one strong woman" for surviving the debate, and her announcement at her alma mater that the all womens college prepared her for the "all boys network" of politics.
Clinton is playing the gender card, but what she doesn't realize is she is a disgrace to women everywhere.

Obama is the ultimate professional, and I'm tired of ignorant people saying he's "inexperienced." He has a degree in International Relations, he used to be a teacher, he's worked at the city, state, and national levels of government, and he's been in an elected office 3 years LONGER than Clinton.


So what many of you are saying is that you would prefer someone who doesn't take time to think about a question before answering it. Similar to what we have now. Also, she didn't say she was being attacked. This is something people are reading into her answers (rather poorly too). As for Hillary being tough? You bet! A heck of a lot tougher than that cowardly idiot we have now.


Do you remember "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas"? And Charles Durning (playing the governer) doing the "sidestep"? Hillary is doing her own imitation. So what is she hiding? What doesn't she want voters to know? ... I think we know.


Another distinction I'm observing: Obama does not need to pay people to comment on the blogs.


"Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, now they see me now they don't-
I've come and gone and, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step,
cut a little swathe and lead the people on."

Makes me want to dig the movie out of my library and play it. Hillary probably knows it by heart.


K.W. you need to start talking about the issues instead of the side-stepping you are doing in denigrating someone without using any substance, just a lot of lip flapping. Bethany, why is Hillary a disgrace to women? Because she isn't with you in the kitchen? It's OK to dislike Hillary for any reason you want to come up with. But let's start using facts instead of inuendo. As for Obama, I don't dislike him, but I don't believe he has the political experience needed at this time. I do however believe he would make a good Vice-President and could gain the experience to later become President.


People it is the same old crap. Put your boots on. Here we are not talking about the issues. Debates are all rehearsed. They all prepare for the questions. Then they all lie to us. Yes both parties do that. We need a third or fourth party not the SOS every four years. Are our children any more educated now thaen they were 4 years ago or eight years ago. Do we have more jobs in this country now then we did 4 years ago. Are we safer in our country more now then we were 4 years ago. Is your job more secure or les secure. Has crime gone down. Is our health care system better now than it was 4 years ago. Why are we paying more in taxes at all levels and they are cutting services that many people need. People those people debating don't care about us or the enviorment or that your child is properly educated. 92% of the politicians from the President all the way down to your local trustee send there kids to private schools. America get your head out of your TV and see what is being done to us by our political leaders while you are watching dancing with the stars or ER or Oprah. Get in tune to what is really effecting your way of life. It is not a liberal or a conservative agenda it is an American Agenda. Wake up America stop hating and start taking care of business.


Unfortunately, when people crtiize Obama for not being black enough I wonder what it is that they are trying to say. I have beleieved all my life that we are Americans first and the president should in theory be for all the people. I was at first questioning Ob,a's experience but I have followed thing from the start amd I now beleive he does have the experience to carry us as a nation into the future. (not drag us back into the past!) Therefore, if Hilary is the front runner then she must take the hits that any front runner would take (male or female).


Just as Hillary says she will be the first woman President, Obama also touts the same, as the first black President.

But I will still vote for Hillary based on her long record in the public service. Gender and race don't matter to me. It is their past accomplishments. Obama has only a 3 year experience as senator. Maybe in 2016 I will vote for him. By then I have no more doubts about his experience especially if he will prove to be a very good legislator.

In this dangerous world we live in, I just cannot elect a leader whom I do not really know, I have to be sure.


Rhonin
Who me? I'm not running for president. Tell Hillary to start talking about issues, and stop dancing. In fact, the only issue I hear from the democrats is Bush is wrong, it's Bush's fault, Bush is bad ... I hate Bush. They offer nothing ...


Are you kidding me? The gender card? Is the media really trying to make this into something? Hillary simply was stating fact that her all-girls school prepared her for the all-male world of politics and she is 100% correct! The media was just WAITING to pounce on her as soon as she made the smallest distinction that she was woman. Are they going to pounce everytime Obama's race is brought up? Or how about everytime Richardson is an advocate for Hispanic-Americans?

People, lay off...get real, and let's start realizing who the real enemy is here...our current administration!


Things are getting ugly, eh?

Clinton didn't say she was being ganged up on. She said that going to an all-women's college prepared her for the all-boys club of presidential politics.

That reads as a lighthearted joke, to me, not a cry for help or a call for fair play based on gender.

It was an inane question, anyway. The gender card. She's a woman, and she has the right to discuss that fact and even crow a little bit about the fact that FINALLY a woman is being acknowledged as a presidential contender.

Nobody can deny that the issue of gender has been a hot topic in the presidential race, thus far. Some news anchor claiming she's being ganged up on for being female is just that: a news anchor trying to get a debate of his own going to get ratings. She's proven her mettle enough that nobody seriously believes a political debate is going to send her running away in tears. She said she's prepared, and that's just what she is.


Now what are the Demo candidates supposed to do in the debates: ignore Hillary's obfuscations because she might cry? Here is a woman that has portrayed herself as tough as any man. Yet, when the going gets tough, she can't take it and
resorts to the "bad men bullying the little girl in the playground" routine. If you want to be a president, start acting like one...and answer the questions!


Arlene, what has Hillary accomplished? I'm not aware of anything in which she has really accomplished anything in particular. Being married to a governor and president, and putting up with his randy lifestyle, is not an accomplishmsnt. Hillary has never run anything. She and Obama are about two of the least experienced candidates for president ever!


"I want to hear Obama talking about the criminal Bush administration, if he's going to give up illegal executive power gathered by Bush. Clinton was the first prez candidate to mention this, and say she WOULD let go of power she feels is illegal"
Of course if she is elected she will suddenly find/feel that there is no illegal executive power to give up. Remember those records with her fingerprints on them that she claimed to know nothing about during Bill's tenure in office. This is a person who has already demonstrated their disrespect for the laws of this country.


Joe D. well said. K.W. Yes you. As for Bush being wrong? He is. But I don't really consider him to be a Republican either. Republican's and Democrat's both have many good values. The problem is we only get to see the extreme ones with the people we have in power at the moment. I also believe we need a third party. One more in the middle that puts America first. What would you like to see in our government? Oh, let's try to keep the religious, racial, and gender aspects out of this discussion.


Geraldine, what are you talking about? As for others who are angry and ready for a fight. Let's first remember this. Even though you are Republican or Democrat or other. I believe all of you would say that FIRST you are AMERICAN! So let's start looking for the candidate that will put America first. I don't care what party they belong to. No more extremeists in our government. If they can't work together and bring more ideas into the fray, then whoever they are or whatever party they belong to, let's dump them.


John D -

You are 100% correct. Well, mostly correct. Staying married to Bill must have been hard.

That is the funny thing about Hillary. She claims she is the only candidate with enough experience to be President, yet she refuses to allow the Library of Congress to release the records that show exactly what she did when her husband was President.

You can't run on your expereince than refuse to say what your experience is. That's just wrong.


Who me? I'm not running for president. Tell Hillary to start talking about issues, and stop dancing. In fact, the only issue I hear from the democrats is Bush is wrong, it's Bush's fault, Bush is bad ... I hate Bush. They offer nothing ...

Posted by: K W Smith

And just to accent your post...

This is EXACTLY the platform the Democrats ran on to take the Congress last year.
No issues, just Bush hating.
After a year, what have they done?
Why are they the lowest rated Congress ever?
Because they have ZERO issues, just Bush Bashing Political schemes.
I hate Bush myself, but these political games are going to hurt the Democrats, in Congressional and Presidential elections next year.
They had better have REAL solutions to issues, not just "because we hate Bush".
The American people know they hate Bush, but just what are you going to do about the Foreign and Domestic issues that are so messed up?


I am desperately hoping that Shrillary get the nomination. There is no way mainstream Americans will put her in charge of the military in times of War. All of you left wing moonbats can believe what you want, but this election is already over. Righties rule, Letfies drool!!


I don't know a single, not one, female democrat, that is casting a ballot for Hillary Clinton. They all say the same thing, "angry, bitter, untrustworthy, too emotional, condescending, patronizing, etc". Just the facts.


I think the campaign is just warming up to get started. Sen. Clinton has repeatedly said she is running by her record and her experience. No one knows that record or experience she has been talking about.
We must demand that all her record be made public so that we can make informed decision come 2008. So far everything that went good during Bill Clinton's Presidency, she takes credit and everything that went wrong Bill Clinton takes the blame.
A sample of her work in her writing will tell a true picture of who Mrs. Clinton is. You can not tell a difference a bull dog and just a dog. I can not wait to review some of her memos and writings. Until her record is made public, she is just running as an actress.


I listened carefully and find that Mrs.Clinton expressed an honest, consistent response...she may not agree
with what the Gov is doing, but respects
the effort to deal with the problem. I
think who ever wins this election will have
many, many such quagmires to deal with,
coming on after all the mess Bush has made. Sometimes one has to do all they
can do.....hard to pull us out of the morass Bush as created.


I agree 100% with Senator Obama. She has been playing this tough persona all campaign and now when the candidates point out her double talk she cries foul. She is trying to have it both ways. Has anyone had three answers to one question in a debate before? She is the same old Washington conventional thinking that characterizes the Bush Administration. What, are we supposed to just anoint her President without a fight? It's ridiculous. She wouldn't be where she is without Bill. Barack has the most substance in the race especially on foreign policy. Go to the New York Times website today and click into politics to read an in depth interview with Barack on the major foreign policy issues we face today.


Most of the male democratic candidates, have spent most of their lives making deals with males, politically, socially, legally, economically. They grew up in the "old boy network" that is still alive and active. Hillary continues to handle herself well considering the "old boy network" context. Compared to the other candidates, Hillary is attacked repeatedly on her issues and where she stands. Some of that is due to her being the front runner and also a woman,(Let's not be naive about the place of gender in the real world. It has taken a movement to achieve some parity and equity.) among the Democrats, but interestingly, the Republican candidates, for sure an "old boy network" are eqully attacking her. It seems that is the only way the males know how to approach issues is by attacking! Thank you.


Good for Obama, he is exactly right -- again!


Calling Hillary "unelectable" (when she is leading in the polls) is in some cases a way of playing the gender card. I think we are seeing some in the media and in the race use the term "unelectable" to try and reinforce the dangerous idea that voters will not elect a woman, regardless of her talent, experience, or position on an issue. I would like to see Obama differentiate himself from those who are "playing the gender card" in this way, to focus more intently on the issues.


Remember people that this is basically A LONG JOB INTERVIEW for the MOST IMPORTANT JOB in the company (USA). The democratic panel will recommend its best candidate to be compared to the republican's best candidate for the final interview.

All resumes are in. We looked thru them, diced them up & made necessary notation. We've interviewed them several times to make sure that they truly did all those things they said in their resumes as part of their qualifications. We questioned them on their visions so we know what direction they want to take the company to. We asked them specific questions relating to the taking care of existing challenges (like Iraq, Global Warming, Healthcare, Economy, etc) so we know what their approaches are on resolving these challenges. We also evaluate not just based on their working experience but on their life experience to make sure that we choose someone who is THE BEST FIT for this particular company in this particular time.

Now, in the last interview Hillary was asked several questions on how she’s going to resolve our existing challenges and we didn’t get any concrete answer. She was asked about her experience as the 1st lady which she put on her resume as apart of her qualification, but she didn’t want to answer and wasn’t willing to provide additional information as to why we have to account that particular experience. SO, if we have a candidate applying for a position where he/she will be working for US, would you really want to hire this person to work for you? Would we really hire someone to work for us who doesn’t stand for anything, who can’t give a straight answer, who refused to give backup documents to her experience, who basically said “Trust me, I’m the best candidate for the job! Just take my word for it!” Are you kidding me? If we’re hiring a painter to paint our house and of all the painters who have given us their quotes, pass jobs, recommendations, showed us their qualifications, explained to us what they’re going to do with the house and one painter said I refuse to show you what I’ve done & refused to tell you what I’m going to do with your house but you can take my word that my job is good. There’s NO WAY any of us would hire the painter who can't give a straight answer. SO WHY ARE WE CONSIDERING TO HIRE SOMEONE LIKE THAT TO BE OUR PRESIDENT?

These candidates are applying to WORK FOR US, we are PAYING THEIR SALARIES! The American people better start acting like THE EMPLOYERS that we are or we’ll be shooting ourselves in the foot. If Hillary keeps doing what she’s doing, she’ll be out of the top candidate category just like that! I have a lot of interviewing to do… and she’s wasting my time. I want a candidate who takes the job he/she’s applying seriously.


Count me in as one of those who backed Obama for Senate but has been left wondering what on earth has he done for the people of Illinois. Three years ago, he vowed to serve the people of Illinois and stated that he would serve a full term before seeking a promotion.

Well? His term is only half done and he's actively seeking the Presidency. I have seen very little results from him. Obama doesn't care about the people of Illinois at all.


It's sad to see Barack jump down to the low road once it appears the sands of his fifteen minutes of national fame are running out. This guy makes Al Sharpton look palatable. Enough already. If Bobby Rush could mop the floor with him, it's not surprising Hillary is doing the same. You wanted to be a U.S. Senator, Barack--start doing some tangible things for Illinois and the country and stop carping ad nauseum. Enough with this character.


The only people who are calling Hillary "un-electable" are the un-intelligible. If you want answers, as I believe we all do. Then as the public, let's get these answers. For the drooling idiots that make foolish comments? Go back to the inbred cesspool you came from. This country desperately needs answers to important questions. Not fools who try to put us off on tangents.


A lot of silly/glib/ borderline ignorant comments posted. Obama has too much class to play the race card; yet, others want to impute that to him. Frankly, I am surprised, that Sen. Clinton is making such accusations, no matter how thinly veiled they are. I do not care if she is a woman, I do not care if Sen. Obama is Black. I'm not Republican, but I do not care if Romney is a Mormon. People, the only card politicians should be playing, and we should be demanding, is the "policy" card. Think harder and look past silly things like this. One cannot deny that Sen. Clinton is leaning toward this tactic, this does not mean she will be an ineffective President - and,at this point, I am for Obama.


So it is OK for Obama Osama to use the race card, Hillary cannot use the sex card. Both are telling everyone the other is dirt, but once a candidate is chosen, then they think the other is the greatest thing since sliced bread. What a bunch if hippocrats.


Isn't this the same guy who "guaranteed a 50% increase in African-American turnout in the general election" if he were selected as the nominee of the Dem. Party?

What a hypocrite. Considering he has missed 80% of the votes in the Senate, he ought to be more concerned about doing the job he was elected to do, rather than talking about gender and racial politics for a job he is never going to get.

You have already lost more than half the Democratic voters - we don't believe you're qualified to be commander in chief of the armed forces - and it has nothing to do with race or gender.

Get back to the Senate and start doing your job, Senator Obama.


In Chicago we may be questioning if Obama is black enough, but for most of America, he's probably too black. I believe the U.S. is more willing to have a woman president then a black man for a president. It doesn't matter to me what race or sex the candidate is.

Bill Clinton, for as mad as I am with him for his behavior, is still beloved by many voters and his presence will sway people to vote for Hillary. I really think she's got it, but most of Chicago is blinded by Obama because he's from Chicago and his campaign headquarters is located here.

Both Clinton & Obama will throw some dirt around, and I believe both are good, but I'm going with Clinton because I believe she's the best chance we have of beating a Republican, unless Al Gore entered the race and I would go for him any day of the week.


What an interesting blog, considering that it starts with a Matt Lauer made-for-TV morning news question!

One of the nice things is that you can see who has done his/her homework and who has not. For example, I have a lot of respect now for Bud McFarlin even though I called him out last time (and I disagree with his final diagnosis of Obama's campaign). Amazingly, some people seem to be actually paying attention. Maybe blogs are actually good for elections...

What has Obama done for Illinois? Are you kidding? More people are reading the Chicago Tribune because of his candidacy than reading the Washington Post. Anyone want to tell me what the Cubs have done for IL? Let's not start enumerating jobs and influence and attention that his candidacy has brought to Chicago.

Gender? Please. Those Wellesley women are of a different generation that sees things differently from Hillary's generation. That's why she and Obama split the D-women 50-50. And that Punahou school that Obama attended? Its graduates FOUNDED Mills College, the elite women's college on the West coast.

Finally, experience? It's exactly H's experience that bothers me. I love the gal -- her Wellesley picture is my screensaver --but she is just too angry to be an effective executive. I had a Harvard classmate work in her husband's administration, yeah probably the WEST WING. He said no one is allowed to cross Hillary. What kind of person can govern if her advisors are afraid of telling her what she doesn't want to hear? It's like King-George's inner circle of yes-men (or should I say King-Cheney?). Experience? Admittedly, issues are complex, but it's probably fair to say: "Iraq vote and Iran vote, Obama: 2, Hillary: 0."


What an interesting blog, considering that it starts with a Matt Lauer made-for-TV morning news question!

One of the nice things is that you can see who has done his/her homework and who has not. For example, I have a lot of respect now for Bud McFarlin even though I called him out last time (and I disagree with his final diagnosis of Obama's campaign). Amazingly, some people seem to be actually paying attention. Maybe blogs are actually good for elections...

What has Obama done for Illinois? Are you kidding? More people are reading the Chicago Tribune because of his candidacy than reading the Washington Post. Anyone want to tell me what the Cubs have done for IL? Let's not start enumerating jobs and influence and attention that his candidacy has brought to Chicago.

Gender? Please. Those Wellesley women are of a different generation that sees things differently from Hillary's generation. That's why she and Obama split the D-women 50-50. And that Punahou school that Obama attended? Its graduates FOUNDED Mills College, the elite women's college on the West coast.

Finally, experience? It's exactly H's experience that bothers me. I love the gal -- her Wellesley picture is my screensaver --but she is just too angry to be an effective executive. I had a Harvard classmate work in her husband's administration, yeah probably the WEST WING. He said no one is allowed to cross Hillary. What kind of person can govern if her advisors are afraid of telling her what she doesn't want to hear? It's like King-George's inner circle of yes-men (or should I say King-Cheney?). Experience? Admittedly, issues are complex, but it's probably fair to say: "Iraq vote and Iran vote, Obama: 2, Hillary: 0."


Why are people ganging up on Hilliary? It is becuase she is a great punching bag. My family enjoys talking abut how dumb she is at the dinner table.


Finally something to agree with Senator Boy Wonder on.


Typical Clinton, Bill is famous for not giving strait answers to simple strat forward questions, and Hillary is the VERY SAME WAy, and now after months of her and the media telling us she's smart anough, and TOUGH anough to b Presitent, the first time she has a bad debate, her and her people r running around everywhere saying, they all ganged up on her bcause she's a female, well everybody better get use to that plan, it worked so well for her n her first campain n New York. BUT it also expose's her as the HYPOCRITE she is.


If you cannot place your hand across your chest for the Pledge of Allegiance than you should not have a right to be the President of our country.


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Obama's Chicago

News, but funnier

Cartoon

Walt Handelsman

Cartoon

The Lowe- Down

Cartoon

Joe Fournier

Cartoon

Editorial cartoons

Candidate match


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