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Posted December 10, 2007 7:32 PM
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by Rick Pearson

NEWTON, Iowa — Former President Bill Clinton was on the campaign trail in Iowa today, selling his wife's candidacy as "an agent for positive change" who can turn good ideas into reality.

The surrogate in chief, as he is known, also sought to defend Sen. Hillary Clinton from criticism over returning a Clinton to the White House, saying times weren't always that bad.

"If you're going to elect the best president, you've got to elect someone who's an agent for positive change," the former president told a few hundred people in the gymnasium of the Newton YMCA. Adding that it wasn't good enough to just propose "the right programs," he said, "You have to make them real. That's what we worked on for eight years."

Calling his wife "a proven agent of positive change,'' he said, "that's what I try to be.''

Clinton also acknowledged that he hears, 'Well, we don't want to be fighting the battles of the '90s,' in reference to another Clinton tenure as president. "I hear that," he said, but "we sure would like to have some of the victories of the '90s."

During a brief question and answer period with the audience, the former president was asked about times during his presidency in which the Clinton's disagreed and which he now acknowledges she was right.

One instance, he said, was in not moving quickly to send U.S. troops to fight the genocide in Rwanda in 1994. "I think she would have clearly done that," he said, noting at the time he had concerns about military activities in Bosnia and that no one knew how bad the situation in Rwanda would turn out to be.

"We have agreed on most things over the long haul," Bill Clinton said. "More often than not, when we disagreed, time has proven her right."

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Yeah? When?


I can't speak ill of Bill, but he ain't helpin Hillary's case.

Obama probably hasn't peaked yet.


Nice try, Big Bill. The only way for Hillary to be an agent for change is if she had divorced your philandering butt and struck out on her own to blaze new and daring paths for herself. Instead she locked into the safety of your perceived popularity, using you to sweep into power as heiress to the throne. The American people want real change and not the merry go round between you and the Bush clan.


Hillary claims she was "co-President" during Bill's tenure and that's how she got all her great experience. If true, we can't vote for her because she's already served 2 terms and there are term limits!!!


So far so good. But, it seems like her campaign is stalling? I'm not convince that she has the right people in the right place in her campaign. Things are going down hill. If she doesn't have the right people in the right place during her campaign, what would happen when she is President? The little things in life and a bit of orvesight can mean big failures in life.

All in all, I still think Senator Clinton will make a great President. But, we will have to see if she is strong enough to crawl out of the boxing match with Obama, and Mr. Edwards.

IMO, even, if Obama wins the Democratic Primaries, he will lose in the General Election anyway. That's the reality. If Obama wins, he will not win a single Southern State. Reality bites.

I like Ron Paul. He is the better Republican Candidate. Mitt Romney, and Huckabee would be dangerous for America. The last thing we want to hear is: "I have a vision from God, therefore, this is what we are going to do. . ."

Oh boy. . .that would be ashame. Here we go again! The God made me do it syndrome. :-)


Does anyone out there feel any sincererity on Bill's word? To me they sound as a perpetual bunch of lies being plastered on themselves, I mean Bill and Hill. Why can't the Clintons just let the people judge them from what they do/did? Once a cheeter/liar always the same.


B.J. said, 'We sure would like to have some of the victories of the 90's...

What victories? Like letting Osama attack us at home and eight times abroad during the 1990's and you did nothing.

Those victories?

Or...the one where you sent 70 million dollars worth of cruise missiles into Afghanistan and killed a Camel to take Monica off the front page?

Or...the one where you declassified our missile technology and gave it to the Chinese? $$$$$

Just think of all the [victories] Hillary will give us.

Paulo


He's right, she's the agent of change from freedom to communism.


I voted for Bill Clinton and beleive in Hillary and on election day will vote for her.

Obama on the other hand has toobig a mouth and lacking in experience... He needs to become an ambasador or do what Hillary is doing or has done by doing peace talks with leaders of other countries...

Obama is a little too green and in 8 years I may vote again for him as I did 4 years ago (for Alderman) He was a good Alderman but a so so senator.

We can't have so so right now or ever again or we might as well vote for Bush because he will be JUST AS EFFECTIVE!

Please rethink about voting for Hillary. Just because the REPUBLICANS stopped some of his good ideas by having him tailed for scandal... If that is what you like Vote republican because YOU ARE FOOLS "just like the one we have in office."


"What victories? Like letting Osama attack us at home and eight times abroad during the 1990's and you did nothing."

Wait, I thought he was "wagging the dog," right? Same as when he attacked Saddam Hussein in 1998 and essentially eliminated his WMD-producing capabilities. Of course, your hero Bushie ignored that entirely, and I'm not surprised a braindead cheerleader such as yourself would take your cues from a fellow ignoramus.

Why didn't President Bush EXECUTE the plan that the Clintons handed them to respond to the USS Cole bombings and roll back Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Was he just too busy increasing the legally allowed amounts of arsenic in our drinking water and ensuring that American tax dollars never go to effective AIDS and pregnancy prevention methods such as contraception?

"Or...the one where you sent 70 million dollars worth of cruise missiles into Afghanistan and killed a Camel to take Monica off the front page?"

Soooo, did he underreact or overreact? Was he "wagging the dog" or trying to kill Osama? What would an appropriate response have been?

How can Republicans claim any assistance in the early "war on terra" when idiots like Paulo STILL TO THIS DAY are saying that Clinton was "wagging the dog" when he came within 45 minutes of killing Bin Laden according to CIA reports?

Bush has had more time, more resources, more support and infinitely more money to take out Bin Laden. What's his excuse if it would have been so damn easy for Clinton?


Paulo,

"Or...the one where you declassified our missile technology and gave it to the Chinese? $$$$$"

That is a such a weak argument. Do you have evidence? If so, share with us. It seems like you are just venting hot air without substance.

Let me remind you it wasn't Clinton who gave secrets away to the Chinese. Just look around, all your stuffs are made in China. All the corporations gave their secrets away a long time ago when they went to China. You got everything from toys, CD's, TV's, shirts, shoes. . .the list goes on.

Besides, who is really giving the Chinese money? Bush is funding this war with Chinese money. $600 billions and more of U.S. Notes, U.S. bonds, CD's. And you are accusing Clinton of giving money to the Chinese? Get real. . .you are simple minded.


Paulo, At least Clinton aimed the cruise missiles at the right country. Bush has pissed away $600 billion so far on a war with a country that wasn't connected with the 9/11 attack. Quick, somebody get him a map. We're lucky he didn't send the troops off to Turduckenstan.


INTERESTING READING! THANKS Tell Oprah ...OBAMA'S BACKGROUND CHECK !!!!!! I am surprised that you have not done your homework. We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself. Probable U.S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein
Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.? When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Obama t akes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is no longer Muslim. Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, as all of our other public officials, but instead the Koran. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest evel - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!


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