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Posted December 19, 2007 2:36 PM
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by James Oliphant

In his bid to be the number-two official at the Justice Department, Chicago federal judge Mark Filip Wednesday ran afoul of the same tripwire that almost did in his putative boss, Michael Mukasey.

Filip refused repeatedly to declare the interrogation practice known as waterboarding illegal, despite the urgings of several senators. While his hesitation is unlikely to jeopardize his nomination to be the deputy attorney general, it again underscored the level of tension between Congress and the Justice Department over the issue of torture.

At his confirmation hearing in November, Mukasey’s reluctance to brand waterboarding as torture almost derailed his nomination and led to the narrowest vote to confirm an attorney general in history. Mukasey, like Filip a federal judge, said that he couldn’t render a legal opinion without being privy to administration materials on the practice.

Filip did label waterboarding “repugnant” and was, at least, able to avail himself of an argument that Mukasey couldn’t: namely that he didn’t want render an opinion on an issue that Mukasey, his potential superior, was still studying.

None of it was good enough for Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.). “Repugnant is not the answer that meets the requirements in terms of the various statutes,” Kennedy said.

And Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), who as Filip’s home-state senator earlier praised his qualifications, said Filip’s answers presented him with a “moral dilemma.” He professed exasperation at not being able to get a legal opinion on waterboarding from either Mukasey or his hand-picked deputy, Filip.

“Do you understand the problem that creates on this side of the table?” Durbin asked Filip.

“I would ask respectfully that you look at my record” as a federal judge and prosecutor, Filip responded.

Filip and several members of the Senate Judiciary Committee also disagreed over Congress’ role in investigating the Central Intelligence Agency’s destruction of videotaped interrogations of two suspected terrorists. Mukasey angered senators last week when he sent a letter to the committee saying that he would not respond to their requests for information on the matter.

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), the panel’s ranking member, pushed Filip to agree that Congress had broad authority to launch investigations even as the Justice Department conducted its own. But Filip would not say that the department should defer to Congress. “I would hope, senator, not to have to pick between the two,” Filip said.

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) pressed Filip on the department’s independence from the president. Whitehouse cited a recently de-classified Justice Department memo written during the current administration that stated as a legal principle that the “Department of Justice is bound by the president’s legal determinations.”

“I think it’s the job of the Department of Justice to tell the president what the law is, not vice-versa,” Whitehouse said.

Filip, 41, was nominated by the White House last month to fill the deputy attorney general post after Paul McNulty resigned in the wake of the controversy over the firings of eight U.S. attorneys by then-Atty. Gen. General Alberto Gonzales. McNulty’s departure was part of a wave of resignations that left as many as 10 high-level posts at the department vacant.

Concerns over a lack of leadership at the department led Judiciary chair Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) to suggest that Filip fill the deputy job on an acting basis until the Senate votes on whether to confirm him, which likely won’t take place until after the long holiday recess. But Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) noted that Filip would be unlikely to surrender the security of a lifetime appointment to the federal bench for such a tenuous position and urged the Senate simply to confirm Filip immediately. Filip stayed silent on the issue.

Filip, a Chicago native and Wilmette resident, was a longtime federal prosecutor before joining the law firm of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom in Chicago. He was nominated to the bench by President Bush in 2004 and was confirmed unanimously by the Senate. Wednesday, he spoke repeatedly about his affection for institution he would be joining. “I became a lawyer in Chicago because I hoped to join the Department of Justice,” he said. “To be here to be considered for the position of deputy attorney general is truly humbling.”

He was joined by his wife, Beth, and his four young sons, all of whom were decked out in matching blue blazers, blue oxford shirts and khaki pants. More than one senator noted that Filip’s greatest achievement might have been keeping the boys still for the entire two-hour hearing.

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If this is justice, I am the messiah.
How can these crooked lying bastards get into such high positions?


"DoJ Official Experienced Waterboarding, Told WH It Is Illegal, Was ‘Forced Out"

Last night, ABC World News reported that in 2004 then-acting assistant attorney general Daniel Levin was so concerned about the administration’s use of waterboarding that he went to a military base near Washington and underwent the procedure himself.

Full story here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/03/waterboarding-abc-news-levin/


This should be interesting, the Neonuts have kind of put themselves in a box on this one.


I am a lifelong Democrat who loathes the Bush administration. I am also a lawyer who has appeared before Judge Filip. Even though he disagreed with me at times, I never have had, nor would I ever have, reason to question his integrity. I beleive San Miguel could not be more wrong when he says "crooked lying b..." Save that comments for the real crooks in office!


From Andy Borowitz...
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The White House, one of the most historic structures in the nation's capital, burnt to the ground today after Vice President Dick Cheney attempted to incinerate a cache of CIA interrogation tapes in his office.

According to White House aides, the blaze started shortly after twelve noon, minutes after Mr. Cheney slipped out of a cabinet meeting, saying that he had to "hit the head."

But rather than using the bathroom as he had stated, the vice president instead went to his office and put a blowtorch to a pile of CIA interrogation tapes which the White House had feared might be subpoenaed in the near future.

"I started burning those things and boom, they went up like a rocket," an apologetic Mr. Cheney later told reporters.

The accidental blaze quickly spread from the videotapes to a nearby stack of transcripts of phone conversations involving Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and singer Barbra Streisand that Mr. Cheney had obtained via a warrantless wiretap.

"Once those transcripts caught on fire, I knew the building was a goner," Mr. Cheney said. "There were literally thousands and thousands of pages of that stuff."

Speaking in front of the charred remains of the historic building, administration spokesperson Dana Perino said that the White House might have been saved had it not been for an unfortunate bureaucratic mix-up: "Instead of calling the fire department, President Bush called FEMA."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/attempting-to-destroy-cia_b_77554.html
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Truth is stranger than fiction folks. But bu$h is the strangest of all.


I guess Ted "water under the bridge" Kennedy and DICK Turban would rather not hurt our sworn enemies than use this effective and proven method toprevent any future acts against US, the people who put those spineless defeatists into power in the first place. We come second to protecting the poor terrorists. What a shame. What a joke.


I wish those folks who are so anxious to tell us what NOT to do would come up with an answer on how to get information from terrorists (whose methods, by the way, make waterboarding seem like a picnic in the park). I get the sense that most objectors to waterboarding think that the harshest technique we can use is to ask, "Tell us where the dirty bomb is, pretty please with sugar on it?"


“Department of Justice is bound by the president’s legal determinations.”

This President never studied law, or passed the bar.
How can he make a "legal determination"?


Has anyone asked what they have replaced
waterboarding with...carefull what you ask for.


To all those who ask for an alternative to waterboarding, why should we keep using a tactic which doesn't work according to the FBI

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22288742/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-gitmo_finaloct21,0,7664670.story

Torture is not only a moral atroctity, bit produces bad intelligence. 24 is not a documentary folks. Torture does not get someone to tell the truth, it gets someone to say what ever tou want to hear so that the pain stops.


I guess Ted "water under the bridge" Kennedy and DICK Turban would rather not hurt our sworn enemies than use this effective and proven method
Posted by: George | December 19, 2007 7:06 PM

Why stop there Tex? How about those that commit murder, or theft? We could waterboard those people too. Maybe the family of a criminal could be waterboarded for information. Your idea that it is a proven method is in direct conflict with the experts.


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