Yesterday Obama's electability, today his drug use: The Swamp
The Swamp
Chicago Tribune
Posted December 12, 2007 4:30 PM
The Swamp

by John McCormick, updated

WEST DES MOINES, Iowa -- A day after Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign questioned Sen. Barack Obama's ability to win a general election, the co-chairman of her New Hampshire operation today questioned his past drug use.

In an interview with the Washington Post, Billy Shaheen suggestion that Obama's admissions about drug use as a young man could come back to haunt him in a general election.

"The Republicans are not going to give up without a fight ... and one of the things they're certainly going to jump on is his drug use," said Shaheen, the husband of former New Hampshire governor Jeanne Shaheen.

The Post reported that Billy Shaheen contrasted Obama's openness about his past drug use -- which Obama has mentioned recently in Iowa and New Hampshire -- with the approach taken by George W. Bush in 1999 and 2000, when he ruled out questions about his behavior when he was "young and irresponsible."

In recent days, the New York senator's campaign has been pushing the notion that voters do not know that much about the junior senator from Illinois. (The Tribune ran an eight-part series on his biography earlier this year.)

Obama used both cocaine and marijuana as a young man. He wrote about it in one of his books and has talked about it several times on network television and on the campaign trail. Obama joked about it just a few weeks ago in Iowa.

Shaheen told the Post that Obama's candor on the subject would "open the door" to further questions. "It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" Shaheen said. "There are so many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome."

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe issued the following statement in response:

“Hillary Clinton said attacking other Democrats is the ‘fun part’ of this campaign, and now she’s moved from Barack Obama’s kindergarten years to his teenage years in an increasingly desperate effort to slow her slide in the polls. Senator Clinton’s campaign is recycling old news that Barack Obama has been candid about in a book he wrote years ago, and he’s talked about the lessons he’s learned from these mistakes with young people all across the country. He plans on winning this campaign by focusing on the issues that actually matter to the American people."

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The Clinton Campaign, for all of the praise that has been heaped on them of being a "Powerhouse" and having the best "Professionals", is looking more and more inept and out of touch with Democrats, and Americans in general, everyday.
They just don't get it. I was born in 1961 just like Barack Obama. 99% of all of the people that were my peers, at some point, used drugs. Now, most of those people, like me, no longer use drugs. There may be some Democrats in their 60's and 70's that would judge Obama harshly for being open about his past, but for me and a lot of other people, his honesty just endears him to us even more.
I mean, hell, doesn't the Clinton Campaign realize that in the 80's there was a REAL epidemic of cocaine use in the USA? It created an entire economic boom for one of her major lobby endorsements, the health insurance industry. Remember how before 1985 you couldn't find a drug rehab if your life depended on it? Now it is a huge industry.
The Clintons have lost touch with reality in their panic of her crashing numbers.
We are going to have a new President that is going to allow us to put all of this crap behind us.
That President's name will be Barack Obama.


God forbid we should have an honest man in the White House.


INTERESTING READING! THANKS Tell Oprah ...OBAMA'S BACKGROUND CHECK !!!!!! I am surprised that you have not done your homework. We checked this out on "snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself. Probable U.S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein
Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.? When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Obama t akes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is no longer Muslim. Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, as all of our other public officials, but instead the Koran. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest evel - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!


I think Hillary is a closet Repub. She needs to get a grip and she is losing credibility.


Posted by: Sick of oprahbama | December 12, 2007 5:07 PM

Wow, all of the Obama lies in one tidy little package!


Why did you allow people to falsely spread rumors about Obama using your cite
....please read the posting about obama done by one o your readers and take it down.
Thanks


Hey, Sick of oprahbama, since you trust Snopes so much, you'll be interested to know that Snopes says everything else you say is an outright lie.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

You should be ashamed of spreading such slander.


It's a valid point, the Republican hate machine and their cable network and talk radio stations will stop at nothing to maintain power. But if the Clinton campaign doesn't think they can dig up new lies to tell about her, they're in for a shock if she's the nominee. As they proved in 2004, the Republican hate machine doesn't need facts to attack, and their media will report every lie as fact.


Posted by: Sick of oprahbama | December 12, 2007 5:07 PM

Sick, that was just one HUGE pack of lies, half-lies, and random opinions baseless in fact, but thrown out as if they were fact! One teeny little fact you managed to leave out after you copied the Snopes piece was that it was labeled as "FALSE." As in "NOT TRUE." As in "YOU LIE LIKE A RUG." The refutation of the drivel you've put here is quite lengthy so I won't weigh down the site with text, but I WILL say you ought to be really, really ashamed of yourself. Unless, of course, you're a Republican, in which case you're just par for the course.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp


And that is how you go from first to 3rd in Iowa. What a joke her campaign has become.


"The Obama campaign has not responded".

There is no need for a response to stupidity like this, it sounds more like something that would come straight out of the Republicans "avoid the real issues and Swiftboat the candidate" playbook.

Did Hillary recently hire Paulo to "work" for her or something?


Your comments are bigoted, offensive, and devoid of factual content.

Barack Obama Is Not and Has Never Been a Muslim. Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ.

http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_is_a_committed_christian.php


I wonder if Shrillary uses a special deodorant to mask the stench of panic.
The comments from her operative Shaheen are simply pathetic. Will he end up Fostered?
Obama spoked pot and tried coke along with most of us in ou youth-so what?
Obama will be pummeled with outlandish statements from the slimy weasels serving their mistress.
America deserves better than the Clinton Dynasty.
The 60's and (thank God) 70's are over. The Nixonian tactics of the Clintonistas will fail.


I almost didn't vote for 'Slick Willy' because of his history of wasting good weed. I can't imagine a world in which you wouldn't 'breathe in' at Cambridge, UK!

I pray to the sweet Lord that 'Bama inhaled!

BTW, when Mrs. Morris became 'with child' we decided to quit the weed and the tobacco. (Not the gin! They will have to pry the gin bottle from my cold, dead hands!!)

We put the weed down overnight, never a second thought, but the Salem 'Lites' took five years. America needs to get a clue.


Funny that "Sick of" regurgitates a slur and claims it checks out on snopes.com. Why no link? Because here it is, and it explicitly says the story is false.

Oh, and Sick of..., any informed person knows Rep. Keith Ellison of MN took his oath on the Koran (and caught hell for it), not Obama. Be sure to revisit reality every so often.


Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest evel - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

Posted by: Sick of oprahbama | December 12, 2007 5:07 PM


Sick of people like you,

Thanks to racist, bigoted people like you I now realize that the Republican morons are nothing but a bunch of clueless sycophants who are scared to death of the arsekicking they're going to get in the upcoming elction.
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi130.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp268%2FCoCoAlperin%2Frepublicans_greed.jpg&searchTerm=republicans&pageOffset=12


"We checked this out on "snopes.com". "

You must not have noticed that Snopes says it's all lies.


Off subject; (It's just about the war, sorry.)

Hey! Maureen seems to be zeroing in on Crazy John D[evola] and his posse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/opinion/12dowd.html?ref=opinion


The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest evel - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!


Posted by: Sick of oprahbama | December 12, 2007 5:07 PM

What a despicable bunch of b%llsh%t. Your just another mudslinging GOP scumbag!!! Crawl back under your rock.


Hillary's not doing herself any favors lately.


John E,

You are right. They are bigots.

And they are everywhere; They still hate Jews, black people, wet backs. It never ends.


Maybe it helped him crystalize his decision to run for president.


Well, what did you expect from Hillary? Think back to what she did to Bill's women. Think about her hiring private investigators to probe opponents' pasts. And think currently about her dredging up a non-existent "term paper" Obama allegedly wrote in kindergarten. Not sure about Bama's kiddie garden, but the ones I know sure don't have kids writing term papers. You Clinton supporters need to reassess whether you want this tired old stuff or a new beginning. Don't reward bad behavior with your vote.


who did he get them from should be the question!
that dont make you a bad person for his decision to try drugs, its when you cant afford are so call illegal drugs and commit a crime for them is when you should be worried! or if you are on drugs now might make me cautious about the decisions you make. its not a big deal its america!!!


exactly... god forbid an honest man in the white house.

what we really need is a lying bitch.


I find it moderately humorous that Billery's team would try to claim Obama's drug abuse as a youth is going to harm his chances. The fact that Bill Clinton Smoked marijuana didn't seem to turn the voting public away from him, even with the B.S. story that he didn’t “inhale.” [I mean, who believed that one?] At least Obama was honest and came clean with it.


C. Morris,

Dowd might have mentioned that Feith employed a bunch of kids from the Heritage foundation (with no experience),to handle the Iraq reconstruction. It was a disaster:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A48543-2004May22?language=printer


C.Morris,

That was funny! "With his history of wasting good weed."

C, have you ever seen Hillary's college pic's? Talk about being a hippie, wannabe John Lennon look-a-like...has anyone asked her if she toked a few (and inhaled) in her day?

Paulo


"WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER!"

LET IT GO! SEX IS A DRUG. IF IT WASN'T IT IS NOW!

SO WHY FALL FOR THE TAT FOR TAT, WHEN YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON THE TAP TAP TAP. THE PRIMARIES ARE IN MINNESOTA AND A BATHROOM NEAR YOU.

"MEANWHILE CHERTOF SPEAKS"

IT'S THE "organizational churn" THAT HAS STOPPED ME FROM CONSOLIDATING CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT.

THAT PESKY OVERSIGHT. OUR FOREFATHER DIDN'T INVISION GEORGE BUSH, DICK CHENEY. THEY COULDN'T OF.

NO OUR FOREFATHERS INVISIONED HITLER, MUSOLLINI, AND AFTER READING MEIN KEMPF, OUR FOREFATHER INVISIONED A GEORGE BUSH, DICK CHENEY, CONDI RICE QUAGMIRE, AUGMENTATION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THESE UNITED STATES, AKA "BOOB JOB." 230 YEARS, I REPEAT TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY YEARS LATER.
AND GET THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION NEVER IMPLEMENTED THE 911 COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS UNTIL A DEMOCRATIC PARTY CAME INTO PLAYIN 2006 AND BASED ON OVERSIGHT INSTITUTED IT BECAUSE THAT IT WHAT CONGRESS DOES.

OVERSIGHT! UNLESS THEY GET FILLIBUSTERED AND FILLIBUSTERED AND VETOED, AND VETOED AND SHUT DOWN, AND JUST STALLED, AND STALLED, AND STALLED.

THE DEMS GOT SUCKED INTO MEIN KEMPF. RONALD REAGAN BROUGHT DOWN THE WALL, AND DICK CHENEY IS PUTTING IT RIGHT BACK UP!

LONG LIVE NANCY PELOSI!


i went to both college and law school with obama and I still think anyone who thinks Obama can win a general election is out of their mind and completely out of touch with reality. Unfortunately in the south it is a race issue and everywhere else it will be that his middle name is "Hussein". He is also not very bright and completely non-dynamic. He has done NOTHING in congress to date.


Irishamerican says: "They just don't get it. I was born in 1961 just like Barack Obama. 99% of all of the people that were my peers, at some point, used drugs. Now, most of those people, like me, no longer use drugs."

I'm 10 years older than you and still smoke pot occasionally. It hasn't interfered with my success or reasoning abilities. I am much more worried about the drug-pushing pharmaceutical industry that claims to have a drug for everything. (The side effects may include lack of bowel control, suicidal tendencies and an increased desire to gamble.) What kind of drugs are THEY pushing? I just say "no" to their drugs.


We're not sick of Obama, we're sick of Hillary! More lies, triangulation and dirty tricks.

Senator Obama "fessed up" to his youthful drug use, millions of Americans took note of his honesty and moved on.

Now where people have seen the most of Clinton, Iowa, NH and SC, her numbers are dropping like a rocket. If both Clinton's are so smart then why did Bubba spend good money for "weed" and not inhale. Didn't have sex with that woman or that woman or that woman.

Please! Enough.


If Bill Clinton's "I did not inhale", didn't hurt him, why would Obama's honesty in terms of his youthful indiscretions be a problem now? Had he tried to hide it and it came out, he'd be in trouble.

Obama wisely made it a moot point by being so open and candid about.

The republicans would look foolish to attack this. They'd be best to back off on this one.


C Morris, John E., you folks are the true bigots, the true haters. Realize it and accept it!


It seems that some people are suggesting that the U.S.A. should not have a Muslim president.
What about a Catholic?
What about a Baptist?
What about an Evangelical Christian?
What about a Mormon?
Sectarianism has no place in America.
Unless of course you want to model this country after some Middle Eastern country.


Posted by: John D | December 13, 2007 9:06 AM

There's no reason they should either realize or accept it if YOU haven't realized or accepted YOUR OWN hatred.

In the face of your history of vicious hateful comments, which you've stated involve no hatred nor love -- only simple facts, how can you then make a judgment that somebody else isn't coming from the same place? C Mo's and John E.'s comments are no more and no less "factual" or "objective" than yours. You can deny it all you want, but you exhibit not one whit more mental or emotional stability (less, I think actually, than C.Morris), nor more maturity, more sophistication of logic or argument.

You can certainly continue to vomit out your garbage all you want -- it's your time, after all, and your name you're dragging through the mud. And the more you spew, the more you make neocons EVERYWHERE look bad, so my personal thanks for that as well, and my hope you'll keep up the good work. But I DO continue to wonder what blind arrogant, hypocritical sense of entitlement ever let you think you're somehow "better" or "saner" than they are. There's certainly no basis in fact.


The cocaine and marijuana issue humanizes Barack's campaign image, in contrast to the "messiah" image in play. Common standards condemn illicit drug use; but claiming he recovered reflects improved moral character and judgment, which people may identify with generally--appeals to realists.

The messiah-politician image appeals to idealists who need a superman, an "uber" image of Obama, to buy into the claim he can save them from their human plight--poverty or oppression or degradation and the like,--by ushering in an Utopian revolution with magical legislative power in the pen of the US president; it is a god-king image, which in the idealists' minds endows the man Obama with superhuman powers, a mystical deliverer born to save.

Both aim at votes.

With respect to Obama's moral character, the latter reflects an ends-justifies-means morality; a fantasy image of Obama promising Utopia as "good" because it appeals to idealistic voters. The reformed drug user image projects to realists a humanistic morality--people make mistakes, learn, improve character and judgment, a life-long process.

Integrating fictitious and humanistic campaign images reflects Obama's assent to differing moral principles: ends-justify-means and human improvement morality. The former utilizes subtle deception and the latter honesty to capture public trust.


Op109,

Why thank you sir, or madam as the case may be.

In fact I am the most stable person I know. A prince of tact, a diplomat of decisiveness, an angel of action, a champion of comity and compromise.

On the other hand Crazy John Devola is a twit, a tw@♰, a twiddler, a tattler, a teller a tales, a true trampler of the truth and trust.

Have a pleasant a profitable day everyone.


oprahbama supporters, try to educate yourselves!

Recently free ride for Obama from political press corps, and it feels besieged as it has to bat away incessant questions with Obama's significant shifts, flip flopping on issues such as Patriot Act, Defense of Marriage Act, Fast Track trade authority and benefits for same-sex couples. Given how little experience Obama has, its understandable that his campaign doesnt want any kind of focus on his record, These stories clearly raise questions about Obamas electability and serve as a stark reminder about how little the public knows about his positions. The Illinois chapter of the National Organization for Women, Obama said he would vote to repeal the Patriot Act. In 2006 Obama voted for the redrafted version of the Patriot Act that some critics contended made only minor changes to the original law. On Defense of Marriage Act Obama answered No,to the question: "Do you support repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act. On Fast Track authority, which requires Congress to vote yes or no and without amendments on pending trade deals, Obama opposes Fast Track authority because it is a usurpation of Congress' role to ensure that negotiated trade agreements serve the best interests of our country, including protection of the environment, worker rights and human rights.In remarks to the Detroit Economic Club in May, Obama said, I plan to be president, so I actually want Fast Track. But I'm willing to constrain myself in Fast Track to make sure that we’ve got strong labor and environmental protections.On benefits for same-sex couples, Obama said, he would need to evaluate the fiscal impact of extending Social Security benefits to same-sex couples that married couples currently receive. Also Barack Obama (D-IL)involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin Tony Rezko. Obama also linked to an alleged influence peddling scandal and was nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.


Among his concerns about Obama as the nominee, he said in an interview here today, is that his background is so relatively unknown and that the Republicans would do their best to unearth negative aspects of it, or concoct mistruths about it. Shaheen, a lawyer and influential state power broker, mentioned as an example Obama's use of cocaine and marijuana as a young man, which Obama has been open about in his memoir and on the trail.The Republicans are not going to give up without a fight ... and one of the things they're certainly going to jump on is his drug use,"Injecting drug users inject drugs into veins. Drug injecting is often a group activity among IDUs. The common practice is to use the same syringe and needle for all the members of the group. If one member of the group has HIV infection, the infection would readily enter the other members. The chances of infection through the injecting route are much higher than sexual route of transmission. Thus once HIV enters into the circuit of IDUs, the spread within the IDU community is rapid. ..

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Dacia


"http://www.addictionlink.org/drug-rehab-center/iowa"


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