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McCain and Paul get off easy at GOP SC debate

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Posted January 11, 2008 7:00 AM
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by Frank James

Two surprises out of last night's Fox News Channel Republican presidential debate in Myrtle Beach, S.C., both inexplicable.

One was that Sen. John McCain got out of the event pretty much unscathed.

You would have thought that his New Hampshire Primary win would have made him the big target at last niight's debate.

The other was that Rep. Ron Paul wasn't asked about the newsletters with the racist, anti-Semitic and anti-gay opinions published under his name, publications which have become a big story ever since The New Republic's James Kirchick wrote of their existence recently.

First the Paul controversy. CNN provided Fox News with the perfect lead in to have one of the Fox journalists on the panel of questioners last night put Paul on the spot about the newsletters. CNN's The Situation Room actually did a segment about with Paul yesterday during which Paul tried to distance himself from the newsletters published in the 1990s and 1980s.

But the Fox News journalists never raised the newsletters. At one time it looked like they might when Carl Cameron asked Paul if he was electable. But it didn't happen.

That was really astounding. The newsletters were the biggest story about Paul in that news cycle, burning up the Internet. Yet, the questions never came. It really was an amazing omission. A lot of people will be asking why and spinning conspiracy theories.

Was there a fear it would create a tidal wave of backlash against the news network by fervent Paul supporters? Or that it would derail the debate? Or that the other candidates would be forced to repudiate Paul, which could cost the eventual Republican nominee support from Paul supporters later on?

The failure of the top candidates to take on McCain was also remarkable.Huckabee, who has positioned himself as the GOP candidate offering hope and taking the high road, certainly wasn't going take after McCain. It would've ruined his message.

But that doesn't explain why Romney, Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani didn't. Romney took a few open-handed swipes at McCain but none of them caused any damage.

The presidential campaign textbook usually calls for the candidate who won the last primary and who got a bounce in the polls to be attacked by the others as they try to peel off some of his support.

But last night, the other candidates seemed to be going out of their way to avoid getting nasty with McCain.

They left it for McCain to shoot himself in the foot. He said near the debate's start that the economy wasn't heading into recession.

And by the way, I don't believe we're headed into a recession. I believe the fundamentals of this economy are strong, and I believe they will remain strong. This is a rough patch, but I think America's greatness lies ahead of us.

Maybe the economy isn't. But if it turns out the economy worsens and does noticeably head into a recession before next November's election, these words may come back to haunt McCain should he be the nominee. They will make him look out of touch.

It's not likely a grievous wound but he could've easily provided an answer withoutthe potential to be used with great effect later this year in Democratic ads .

Wiser answers came from Huckabee and Thompson. Huckabee said:

Chris, I hope we're not headed toward a recession, but if we are, there's four factors that'll be the reason....

Huckabee was right about two of the four things he cited--rising fuel prices and the subprime mortgage woes. But then he added two factors economists haven't generally haven't cited--health-care and education costs. That was a little odd.

Thompson also had a better answer than McCain.

Unemployment is up to 5 percent.

That used to be considered full employment, but we're going in the wrong direction with regard to that. It's not just the subprime market now, it's poured over into the general housing market. Credit is scarce. It's affected the consumer credit market in general. If you're talking about automobile loans or you're talking about credit card thieves or anything like that, the money is getting tighter and tighter. We still have a bunch of two-handed economists in Washington: On the one hand, we may go into recession, and over on the other hand, we may not. Nobody knows.

At the last debate which took place in New Hampshire, it was clear that Mitt Romney was seen as the man to stop, with several candidates training their fire on him.

But his second place finish in New Hampshire, following a similar finish in Iowa, clearly left him so weakened in the eyes of his rivals that they felt like they didn't need to waste time trying to cut his legs out from under him..

If any candidates played the pinata role Romney did in the last debate it was Huckabee and Paul.

Huckabee was attacked mainly by Thompson, the former senator from Tennesee, who obviously sees the former Arkansas governor as the man he needs to take out in order to have a chance at winning South Carolina since Huckabee appeals to evangelical Christians who are an important segment of conservatives, the same voters Thompson needs.

About 20 minutes into the debate, Thompson launched a huge fusillade against Huckabee, using a statement by Ed Rollins, Huckabee's campaign manager, who said the old Reagan coalition that was history.

This is a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party and its future. On the one hand, you have the Reagan revolution. You have the Reagan coalition of limited government and strong national security. On the other hand, you have the direction that Governor Huckabee would take us in.

He would be a Christian leader, but he would also bring about liberal economic policies, liberal foreign policies. He believes we have an arrogant foreign policy in the tradition of blame America first. He believes that Guantanamo should be closed down and those enemy combatants brought here to the United States to find their way into the court system eventually.

He believes in taxpayer-funded programs for illegals, as he did in Arkansas. He has the endorsement of the National Education Association, and the NEA said it was because of his opposition to vouchers. He said he would sign a bill that banned smoking nationwide. So much for federalism. So much for states' rights. So much for individual rights. That's not the model of the Reagan coalition. That's the model of the Democratic Party.

Huckabee was ready however. He came back with a good line and followed up with a strong defense:

MR. HUCKABEE: The Air Force have a saying that says that if you're not catching flak, you're not over the target. I'm catching the flak. I must be over the target. (Laughter, applause.)

Fred, I want to say I appreciate the analysis of my record, but let me try to give you some of the facts of my record.

I came into Arkansas as a governor; put in that position as a lieutenant governor when my predecessor, a Democrat, was forced out of office on a felony conviction. I did something that had not been done in my state in 160 years. I cut taxes, with the legislature working with me, and we continued to do that 94 times.

We cut spending. I'll tell you, the most painful time of my being a governor in 10 and a half years was looking at a budget that 91 percent of which was pretty well fixed on education, Medicaid and prisons, and cutting 11 percent out of that budget. Everywhere I went for about a year and every person --

(Sound of bell.)

It may take me just a moment longer, please --

MR. HUME: Go ahead. Go ahead.

MR. HUCKABEE: -- because there were a lot of things on that catalogue there. (Laughter.)

MR. HUME: Please go ahead.

MR. THOMPSON: I know the feeling.

MR. HUCKABEE: Yeah. Everywhere I went, I had people protesting me and screaming and yelling and doing demonstrations, because I cut government. But I stayed faithful to the things that Ronald Reagan stayed faithful to. You know, if Ronald Reagan were running tonight, there'd be ads by the Club for Growth running against him, because he raised taxes a billion dollars in his first year as governor of California; it would be $10 billion today.

What I did was I governed. And the people of my state must have liked the way I did it, because they kept re-electing me.

Later, after Huckabee criticized the billions of dollars the U.S. has spent on the Pakistan military with very little accountability, Thompson saw another opening for an attack.

MR. THOMPSON: Yeah, Governor Huckabee, if I understood him correctly, seemed to be concerned that part of the money we're sending to Pakistan goes to their own military. That's the point. We help train their military. Their new top general over there was trained here in -- in the United States for a period of time. They have lost several people fighting the Taliban. That's who they would fight the Taliban with, is their military. So our cooperation with their military -- their -- our supporting their military is a good thing.

In part because he was leaning forward against Huckabee, Thompson had another strong debate, similar to his performance in the New Hampshire event.

Even though Paul got off easy, not being asked about the controversial newsletters, he did play the roll of the foil for the other candidates and Fox News journalists. Paul's anti-war views made him the next best thing to having a Democrat on the stage.

The most entertaining moment came over the issue of Iran, specifically the recent provocation by Iranian speedboats that buzzed U.S. Naval vessels last weekend and nearly provoked an armed response from the American ships.

After several candidates said they wouldn't second-guess the U.S. Navy commanders involved but warned that the Iranians were literally cruising for a bruising, Paul was asked what he thought and went on a diatribe about the alleged belligerence of the other candidates who shared the stage with him. It led to an exchange between Paul, Britt Hume of Fox News Channel and ultimately Mitt Romney which left Paul looking not too good.

Here's that part of the debate:

REP. PAUL: I would certainly urge a lot more caution than I'm hearing here tonight. It reminds me of what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin. We went to war there, then later on found out there was a lot of false information.

So here we have -- let's put it in perspective. We have five small speedboats attacking U.S. Navy, with a destroyer. They could take care of those speedboats in about five seconds, and here we're ready to start World War III over this.

And now, guess what? (Applause.) Today, the Navy commander of the Fifth Fleet was on ABC and announced that, you know, that voice might not have come from those vessels. So what does that mean? Was there a rush to judgment on this, ready to go to war?

And you know there are people in this administration, and in Washington, D.C., that are looking for the chance. They were so disappointed with the National Estimate on Intelligence and they were disappointed that there was no attempt to build weapons in Iran since 2003. So what -- I just don't see this rush to judgment.

MR. HUME: Well, wait a minute. All of these people I've asked this question to so far have said they supported the decision to be passive. What are you responding to? (Laughter.)

REP. PAUL: I'm very sorry, I can't hear a word (you said ?). (Laughter, applause.) You'll have to speak up.

MR. HUME: Every one of these -- of your fellow candidates have said they supported the commander's decision to respond passively. I just wonder what you're reacting to.

MR. THOMPSON: I don't know that that's passive.

REP. PAUL: Oh, I didn't hear that. Of course we want caution. But I'm worried about the policy of why we're looking for a justification, now there are no weapons, actually people are looking around a for an excuse to bomb Iran. I mean, we're already, with our CIA, being involved in trying to overthrow that government, and we don't need another war. And this incident should not be thrown out of proportion to the point where we're getting ready to attack Iran over this. (Laughter.)

MR. HUME: Governor Romney? (Pause.) If it happens -- if it happens again.

MR. ROMNEY: I think Congressman Paul should not be reading as many of Ahmadinejad's press releases. But let's -- (laughter, applause, boos).

It was perhaps Romney's best line of the evening. He really didn't have one of his strongest nights. Rudy Giuliani also didn't have a breakout night.

Overall, McCain who's now leading in South Carolina according to a Fox News poll, wasn't hurt. And if his rivals were looking for game-changing performances to boost their hopes, they didn't get them. The debate was a wash.

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Comments

You are a big loser. Better invest in China since idiots like you are running the press in this country.


Faux News is fair and balanced...if it were Hillary or Edwards or any other democrat, they would have done the same.
Right!


Fox did not ask Dr. Paul about those old news letters that he did not write because they did not want to hear his answer. Action speaks louder then words. Ron Paul has more black support then any other Republican. One reason is that black people are disproportionally harmed by the War on Drugs which Ron Paul will end. He will pardon all non violent drug offenders. Drug laws treat a medical problem as a criminal problem. He will end this discrimination. Any one who reads his platform knows that individual liberty is the opposite of racism. This was a deliberate attempt to smear the most honorable man in Washington.


So Ron Paul has a fantastic evening in that debate and manages to turn attacks against him on the other candidates, and you are focusing only on a thoroughly debunked racism charge and a slip up?

McCain dropped a racist bomb on that stage, but you don't bring that up. After Ron Paul says (and I'm paraphrasing) that it's more important to trade with the Arabs rather than follow our present course of action, McCain replies "The only thing al qaeda wants to trade is burkhas." So McCain is accusing all Arabs of being members of al qaeda, and you let that one slip by. Nice.


John McCain was unscathed? People already know he is in support of abolishing the concept of the rule of law by rewarding illegals with amnesty and people already know he is not for responsible spending when he says he wants to send massive chunks of Americans' paychecks to the middle east for the next 100 years.
McCain and Romney are anti-American and so is Fox news.


These debates are useless. Romney claims to save the world, McCain says we aren't heading to a recession, Thompson says 5% unemployment is good, Huckabee and Giulliani are Democrats, and Ron Paul doesn't debate well. If the real conservatives could sit down and really talk about policy we might be able to learn something.


The reason they didn't bring up that newletter is because of the CNN interview where Dr Paul responded with a strength that shocked most that watched it. Even Wolf was taken aback and was forced to admit that he couldn't believe the allegations against Dr Paul either. The only angle of accountability to Dr Paul over this whole thing was the fact that he wasn’t aware of the writings in a publication that had his name on it. Then again, this is consistent with how Dr Paul does things, look at the Revolution … it is completely decoupled from his campaign. He allows them to do their own thing in his name and yes, sometimes they do bad things with that power … but it is self regulating and issues rarely repeat themselves. As Dr Paul said in the debate about the 9/11 truthers , he doesn’t believe he has the power to dictate to people what they can and can not do. All he can do is be responsible for his own actions and hope that those that claim to care for him will not abuse their power.


Gee, I wonder who's writing Frank Jame's paycheck?

Think he might be a Romney supporter? Just maybe? Nah... what evidence do we have of that?


"not being asked about the controversial newsletters"

The NY times tried the racist angle and it blew up in there face because their was no proof. That's why. It is BS and can only effectively be used as a slander technique on online rags like the New Republic and well I guess yours.
Don't worry, if you, MSM, doesn't destroy his chances by slandering him I'm sure Diebold will get the job done.


Funny, you just don't like Ron Paul crashing the party,so you miss important parts of the debate.
"After several candidates said they wouldn't second-guess the U.S. Navy commanders involved but warned that the Iranians were literally cruising for a bruising" - You left out the Rhetoric the candidates were using - Huckabee Sending them to the gates of Hell, Thompson introducing them to the Virgins. Then Brit Hume trys to insinuate they were being moderate ? ? WHo wouldn't be confused at that question ?


Hell, after reading quotes from the newsletter, I find them all to be factually true. Are truths now racist ??


Is'nt it amazing how every white man running for anything is either charged with racism of sodomy. Same old crap. LOL Nobody buys this go-to defamation anymore. We all know who Ron Paul really is and we know who you are Frank. Your just another race baiting social engineer. This revolution is about exposing and destroying people like you. So keep up the hit peices your gonna need them.


Man this post is so wrong on the event. Ron Paul clearly dominated the scene. To actually see how the rest of the candidates just unleashed their rehearsed propaganda was next to nothing to what truth Ron exposed. Man Ron seemed to be the ONLY adult on that podium. Besides this was the second time he won with a huge leap Fox news question: "Who won the debate?" Mc Cain is totally unelectable being such a warmonger (100 years war in Irak). And they pose this question to Ron Paul? How wrong are these kids? And the 30 year old crap of newsletter where some offensive stuff had Rons Name written on it- this was just propaganda to destroy Paul, and he impressively reacted on Wolfs show. I am no Ron Paul advocate but Truth should be told.


Clear biased reporting, no good quality journalism. If this is the "quality" of journalism in the US and people believe it, I do not have much hope for America. Maybe you should look beyond the US and see that the Iraq invasion and the current Republican candidates defending, has caused the US to be very isolated internationally, from its allies in Europe (except Blair) and reason, for that matter. It is really a sad day that only Ron Paul seems to have true insight. People internationally have become fed up with US foreign policy interference and an implied racism (you are prescribing to others how they should act), a racism people are rejecting. You have also failed out to point out the racist comment by McCain during the debate. This will only lead to more hatred from Muslims and moderate Muslims may develop more sympthathy with the extremists, which means the world will be much more dangerous, and economic didsaster will also follow. The Republicans will be happy that Ron Paul has given them the opening, representing the traditional Republican paleo-conservative stance. In case Ron Paul does not get the nomination and there is only a two way race, a Democrats candidate is sure to will with a landslide (as Ron Paul supporters will not vote for either of them).


A funny thing occurred to me recently. Here Congress is currently trying to pass a bill to take away guns from American veterans who may have experienced post traumatic stress disorder, See The Veterans Disarmament Act. But yet, some want to elect a man who must have experienced more stress than most will ever know(Hanoi Hilton) and give him the trigger to something more dangerous than any firearm. Odd indeed


Huckabee said it right - Anyone can pass laws, but it takes a Governor to make it work. Muckabee HAS that experience as Governor - AND he's no Flip-flop.


Maybe you should mention according to the Fox News post debate poll Dr. Paul won with over 30% of the vote- Thompson came in 2nd and Huckabee came in third.

Of course those are just facts
that just might educate you readers and would distract from your own personal opinions.


Our Government and mainstream media are totally out of control. It's like watching some twisted Twilite Zone episode. Ron Paul is the only sane man on stage. How do you scumbags sleep at night?
PS HOW ABOUT REPORTING ON THE VOTE COUNTING FRAUD PROVEN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE???


First off, this wasn't a debate, it was a Fox News propaganda excercise. Secondly, there's no way in hell a Ron Paul supporter would consider ever voting for any one of those criminals.


LOL. Those newsletters are false propaganda to try and hurt Paul. You want to know why the propaganda is resorting to racism? Because Ron Paul has been consistent in his approach to government, and his enemies can not find any thing else to attack him on. It's much easier to try and fool the public that an old white man from texas, no less, is racist or anti-semitic so don't vote for him. NONSENSE! And we the public are not falling for this crap, some of us just take a little more time than others, but that's how Ron's support came in the first place. By grassroots set on fire. And that fire is spreading as more and more people realize WE can govern OURSELVES. WE are the GOVERNMENT. NOT politicians or the big media companies. Americans, a new revolution has started. Take back our country, and fight for liberty and justice for all! For all colors and creeds.


Your headline says Paul got off easy and then you talk about how he got railed on by Fox and the other candidates. Just because they didn't ask about something that was already dealt with or debunked if you will and has nothing to do with policy positions doesn't mean he got off easy. He will never get off easy when dealing with the scoundrels that want to ruin what America is supposed to be. They have their own agendas and it is not the Constitution.


Ron Paul is a regular guy, who speaks with honesty and integrity. He's not a slickster politican with buzzwords. Since we've never had an honest guy in this election, he can be considered different, we're just not used to it. I will take the man with integrity, Ron Paul, over the others. WOW, a white house with integrity and honor, we might actually be sending a good message to our children, so cool.


The verdict of the conservative blogosphere was that Fred Thompson "won" this debate. The Republican "focus group" that analyzed the debate also found Thompson the winner.

When it comes to Republican candidates, I trust the judgment of actual Republicans more than the Democrats who write for the DNC Swamp.


I think what is most disheartening, for me as an American voter, is the lack of reason involved in the "political process".
These 'debates', really aren't even close to what they are intended for. Anymore, we have (for the last 40 years) "American-Idol"ed this process into sound-bites and likeability.
Rather than voters rushing to "get on the winning team" (find the most electable candidate), rather than make a decision on who should be Commander in Chief of the Country.....and we wonder why we are in the situation we are in.
It seems EVERY 'journalist' spins events to suit their purpose, rather than just reporting facts. Let ME draw my own conclussions.


I am so glad to see Ron Paul on stage, on a bogus news?station, FOX. To me it means exactly what Chucklebee Huckabee exclaimed about receiving the Flac, Ron Paul must really be a threat to the War Mongers, Tax Thieves, Baby Killers and would be Dictators, because all the non beleivers just have to get some stupid remark in to try and discredit what Ron Paul is about. SIMPLE FREEDOM!
Ron Paul is trying to shed light on the way this society has allowed big government to own them, lock, stock and barrel! Our freedoms are not those that our forefathers created but rather what this tyrannical government has allowed us to keep, FOR NOW!
Why won't you FELLOW AMERICANS, WAKE UP and smell the horsedung your being served for your daily diet??
Also, Fox TV should be banned from the airwaves for such a biased, one sided debate that was more like a rehearsal for the Puppet Show. Hey there Fox, maybe you should start a new reality show and call it just what it is, The Puppet Show! Besides that, don't foxes run and hide when they are confronted?
In any case, Thank you, Dr. Ron Paul for being yourself and wanting what is truthfully right for this nation.


You give Huckabee credit for his answer on the economy. All he said was gas and housing prices are going up. Wow, what a great economic mind. Why are those things going up in price? I am convinced that there was only one man on that stage who can answer that correctly and it is Ron Paul. The others either don't understand the economy or understand it and want to maintain the status quo for personal profit.


Ron Paul is all hype. Ralph Nader was more effective because he had the cajones to run as a third party candidate. Ron Paul will continue to attract 5%-8% at most and then slip into obscurity once again after the nominating convention.


"We borrow 10 billion dollars from Communist China, every 3 days, then give it to the Dicator Musharrif in Pakistan, to promote Democracy in Iraq, this is crazy, what are we doing"? Ron Paul is SO crystal clear, SO honest, SO beautiful, SO inspiring, it brings a tear to my eye. Ron Paul is the FIRST politican in my 50 year life who has ever had the courage to tell us all the TRUTH.


The only thing that matters is that Ron Paul has correctly identified the most likley threats to our way of life. All the issues that the others discuss will be shown to be irrelevant when the dollar fails and we have recession like never before. I just wish Ron was better at explaining things- it is true that he is not very good at it.


Former war hero turned stand up comic John McCain gave the funniest line of the night when he said he didn't think a recession was coming.

Here's one reason why that's so funny (or maybe ironic): http://www.financialsense.com/editor...2006/1223.html

That a recession was coming hasn't exactly been a surprise to those who study these matters, and TeamBush sure knows it too, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai.../ccview107.xml
even if their best pal Maverick doesn't see it coming yet.


heres Ron Paul's response to the stuff written in his newsletter in the 1990's:
“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

“In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’

“This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”

Folks wake up to what is happening in America. People in my home state of
Mississippi who depend upon the television for their news haven't heard of Ron
Paul enough to remember who he is much less what he stands for. We must demand that the FCC punish networks that perpetuate this attrocity. Until the primaries are over, there should be none of these favoritism and dismissal of any candidates.


Obviously, Frank James was watching a different debate than I was. Ron Paul was the only candidate to assert that the US is already in a recession and that intervention by the Fed will only delay the worst of its effects. Time will prove him right.


Ron Paul made point after point, shredding the other candidates positions, and all you can come up with is the one time Mr. Paul forgot to ask "Why was our destroyer in the Persian Gulf at all?" which was quite obviously his point, and quite obviously lost on you and Brit Hume.


All this, and you also forgot to mention the ridiculous questions about "911 truthers" and electability. How is he responsible for what other people believe? Why would he be running, not to mention beating two of the candidates on stage with him in Iowa and New Hampshire, if he didn't think he were electable?
All in all, I'd say you wrote about as biased of an article as I've seen recently. It's only success is making you less credible as a political reporter.


Huh?? The newsletter story is old stuff--the NYT Magazine last summer mentioned the controversial newsletters in a story about Dr. Paul, and accepted Dr. Paul's response then (go back and read it).

Were you really paying attention to what the other candidates were saying? They just waste at least half their response times reiterating the obvious and then dodge the question. They snicker at Dr. Paul's explanations on monetary policy because they, like most Americans, don't understand it either.

I propose that anyone running for president in the country be given a test on their knowledge of U.S. and world history and economics. We'd definitely have much better candidates like Dr. Paul to choose from.


The racist smears were not written by Ron Paul. Check out this video.

http://www.live5news.com/news/state/13696102.html


Hardly an accurate assessment of the debate.


A true American Patriot is hard to come by, especially in our political system. "Anything For A Buck" seems to be the policy of this article. If this Nation goes down, it will be because of Press such as this.


How can someone that runs for office of the President not be a racist, within the first term of any of them they have to bomb and eviscerate foreign people with a smile. How can anyone ignore this, Paul should point out this fact of the position of which all these people are running for. They merely mouth the words of love while they spew the love of "capitalism's arsenal" in the same direction. Give me a break, sure that doesn't make RP's situation better, it just brings it way the f down to a reality level, come on, I can't believe the MSM making itself appear so unbiased, or unprejudiced, geez, the way they have treated Paul surely also denys that kind of ignorance. So even if he were "racist" how would that make him any different than the rest of the candidates that are favored by the media that promotes the racist bombings of people in the rest of the world, kind of like a grand wizard claiming he's for peace while carrying out murder. Of course that's like me expecting the media to out itself.
If you need another reminder why Paul will actually throw a giant monkey wrench into the system's current bombing campaign then maybe we should not forget that the US treats it's own soldiers that carry out the murder, lest we not foget homelessness or the Walter Reed facts, maybe if the government cares that much for them, why would the policy care about people of different races in other countries? You do not forget this same government gave black men syphilis and marched soldiers into radioactive bomb blasts to see how it would effect them.


Fox news questions were more of attacks on Ron Paul rather than serious questions like were asked to the other candidates.


Even some liberals like me Ron Paul. He was treated shabbily in the debate and stayed consistent with his message. Can John McCain talk about anything besides war? Fred Thompson enjoys bashing Mike Huckabee, yet no one asks Fred why he thinks a few uneventful stints in the senate and a TV show qualify him to be our president. Sorry, but this liberal thinks Mike Huckabee is a decent man no matter what the talking heads say. Everyone hates Giuliani but he consistently speaks clearly and does a great job explaining the intricacies involved in foreign policy issues. Romney keeps saying Washington needs ot be changed, yet has the unspoken endorsement of the Bush family and has not once criticized George Bush. I'm not sure what would change under Romney.


Frank James, fresh off his assurances of an Obama landslide in New Hampshire, opines on the Republican debate.

Democrat James couldn't understand what Democrat voters are doing. So why should anyone expect any insight from him on the Republican race?

Mr. James wonders why nobody in the debate took out after Ron Paul. The answer is simple. If Mr. James ever talked to a Republican, he'd know that Republican candidates consider Ron Paul an annoyance, not really worth the bother of attacking. The internet, in bringing up Paul's newsletter, is doing the destruction job quite nicely without the candidates having to chime in.

As to John McCain, again, if Mr. James was a Republican or talked to Republicans, he'd realize that Fred Thompson (among others) WANTS McCain to win in Michigan and eliminate Mitt Romney. Hence he went easy on McCain. Thompson's prime target right now is Huckabee. If Thompson can eliminate Huckabee, and McCain Romney, he can get a matchup with McCain and Giuliani--a contest he'd win.

Bob Krumm's analysis on this point is particularly good. See http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/


Can you say "PROPOGANDA"! This article by James is another example of the extreme manipulation the media is willing to exert on our political process. Shameful! I was actually AT the debate in Myrtle Beach last night. My impressions: Ron Paul, Mitt Romney & Mike Huckabee seemed to be very well represented by the lapel buttons folks were wearing. Rudy & Fred had a good number of supporters too. However, we were very surprised at the lack of McCain supporters as we watched people come into the room for 2 hours before hand. During the debate, FOX manipulated the audience by showing a split screen of McCain sneering at Paul like he was mental. When the audience saw the split screen; they laughed at the look on McCain's face (it was amusing!) which was rude & discrediting to Congressman Paul. Split screen trick was used once to our audience but worked it's magic by ramping up the laughter. Another example of manipulation - FOX coordinated a "Focus Group" of people afterwards who were located in Charleston, SC - they did not even attend the event in Myrtle Beach! Therefore, those folks were asked who won the debate (they said McCain) and who lost (they said Paul) were not even at the convention center... they only saw the broadcast version FOX chose to show with split screens, commentary & audio of boos & applause muted! Our political process is being incredibly manipulated & corrupted. Although, I believe Ron Paul was the most knowledgeable on economics & trying to bring us back to the Constitution, he won't win the nomination because the media won't let him. The main thing I hope is that the American people will wake up & see how they are being manipulated. I used to only watch FOX News in years gone by since I really believed the "Fair & Balanced" crap; now, not so much! They're just the same as CNN, MSNBC, etc. All owned by powerful corporations that have a vested interest in keeping their power by manipulating elections. Then touch screen voting machines made by Diebold help to secure the favored election results...Wake up, people! It's worse than we could have imagined & may be too late! Do your own research & think...then act accordingly.


"It led to an exchange between Paul, Britt Hume of Fox News Channel and ultimately Mitt Romney which left Paul looking not too good."

Were we watching the same debate? I thought Paul was the only guy that was dead on. He was the only guy that mentioned that the navy is now backtracking and saying that the radio transmission may not have even come from the iranian boats. If anyone came off looking bad it was Romney who got the LOUDEST BOOS OF THE ENTIRE EVENT for his comment.


John McCain has scathed himself with his opposition to Bush tax cuts,his amnesty for illegal immigrants bill, McCain/Feingold that restricted first amendment rights to raise questions about incumbents. Mc Cain says there is too much money in politics code for don't you say anything bad about me punk.
His past will be his future he is not conservative and shouldn't compare himself to Ronald Reagan. I knew Ronald Reagan and he is no Reagan. Jerry White, Springfield, IL


Funny, how "now" this comes up on Dr. Ron Paul when the GOP race enters South Carolina which has a large African American population. This is such a smear that I can't believe the typical American could even believe it to be true. Let alone about Ron Paul who is right about being the only GOP candidate even remotely concerned about discrimination against minorities and everyone for that matter. He's the only GOP candidate that talks about real issues and change. Real change. Not lip service. The rest of the pack is just your typical war-mongering, lip service deceivers that we have seen and heard for years. Sad that the vast majority of Americans still fall prey to these deceptive games. Hard to believe that 70% of Americans want out of the Iraq war, and even more want "No War At All" to resolve issues abroad, but they all flock to McCain in NH who wants nothing but war to solve all the worlds problems. Are we crazy? And why is it that the other GOP candidates look at other foreign lands and nations like they are a state within the USA? When is this type of policy going to stop? That is what is insane and "true" Americans need to wake up and realize that Ron Paul is trying his best to showcase a failed policy that his other GOP competitors want you to believe is the best for the USA and the world. We need to stop worrying about the rest of the world for awhile and fix things here at home for a change. Stop forcing people to do things as we do, which has not been so great the past decade or so. Our nation is broke, people are broke, others hate us, we can't secure our own border.....but you listen to any other GOP candidates they will tell you War will solve our problems, foreign policy has nothing to do with "terrorism" and our monetary system is just fine. Wake up "my friends". Things are not fine.


Ron Paul is for the Liberty of ALL people.

Watch the CNN reaction to the old letters that were published under his name but, not written by him or even edited by him

His next big fundraising day is Dr. Martin Luther King Jr birthday..who is one of Dr. Ron Paul's heros:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo4cEVt8UQ8


The link below proves that he had nothing to do with writing that newsletter or editing it.

Dr. Martin Luther King was one of his heros:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo4cEVt8UQ8


I actually thought it was Paul who was right here. Huckabee had just responded, "they will see the Gates of Hell". Paul was responding to that comment and intent to start another war. The Boo's were directed at Romney for not understanding Paul's "true" statement. Fox News did their best last night to try and eliminate Ron Paul. The questions he was asked were not "fair and balanced" in relationship to the others. I was dissapointed in the bias of Fox News, and I now am beginning to see, this country is headed for some serious trouble if America doesn't wake up to what's going on in the REAL world.


This is old news. Move on to the next scandal. If you can find any. Go Ron Paul.


Here's some real news:

Ron Paul has more support from the military than any other candidate, including McCain.

Ron Paul has more support from Black voters than any other republican.

Some of Ron Paul and Obama's votes in NH weren't counted. Hmmm..here we go again.


Funny how that stuff was never fron page news. I mean it IS really shocking that the Ron Paul has recieved more support from active duty and retired military men than Mccain but where is that on CNN?
Is that not "sensational"?

I hope you guys have access to sacramental penance because I think a lot of you professional media types are bigotted lairs.

But thank you Wolf Blitzer on CNN. He's become one of my favorite TV dudes because he is incredibly fair to Paul, even when he interviewed him over those letters.


The reason No one asked about the racist newsletters is because he's not racist. anyone that has heard him speak, read his books, or met him can attest to this. To ask will only further the cause of the movement. Calling someone a racist when they are not only works when they can't respond. libertarians believe in treating everyone equally. We also believe that one should never initiate force on another. These two principles are core to libertarianism.


There's one reason the newsletter issue didn't come up: the powers that be have no need to critically examine the matter.

I watched the CNN report; it was a hit piece. You can tell it was a hit piece because all the reporter did was raise the specter of racism, stoke the fires of innuendo, and send the whisper train down the political track.

If the media wanted to get to the facts of the matter, they would investigate. You've heard of this? Investigation? Reasoned inquiry? Maybe you could, oh, I don't know---call the person who was the actual editor of the letter? He or she may even know the writer of the piece!

That's just a suggestion, of course. Far be it from me to teach you people about journalism.


Why are ignorants like you running the press in this country? The news letter have been written 15 years ago by free lancer journalists, and Dr. Paul when heard about those letter later on he fired those people. He is not a small minded guy like you. YAre you trying to steel the african american votes away from him, because the african american community vote more for him than for any other republican!

You musst be a monkey not to understand that Dr. Paul is a libertarian (who see people as individuals, not skin color). And by the Way, Martin Luther King and Rosa Park are true heroes for Dr. Paul because they practiced peacefull civil desobedience and fought for civil liberties


I don't see why this passes for journalism. Reporting on the sensationalism of the rhetoric thrown about does not help whatsoever to resolve any issues. Oh wait, it's a blog. Blog = personal vendetta. Have fun ya hack.


The main message I took away from the debate is that the candidates want to be seen as Ronald Reagan. Even Reagan would have trouble salvaging the GOP from the ravages of the past eight years. Listen up, GOP: I am one of those Democrats you're hoping to get, and I would vote for Ron Paul over any Democratic candidate, but I'd vote for any Democratic candidate over any of the other Republican candidates. Enough said?


John McCain has proven himself to be bat *@%$ crazy. It is sad and as a veteran we should be giving him the best medical care possible. He deserves to be taken care of the country that he has served. He is not capable of handling the stress of his current position much less being President. Hopefully he can serve out the rest of his term with dignity and retire.


Was the apology really written by Ron Paual or did someone else write it over his name without his knowledge or review?

Are Ron Paul's policy positions his responsiblity or are they written by others without his knowledge or review?

If elected President will Ron Paul blame everything on staffers who acted without his knowledge or review?


Bringing up these newsletters is pure trash journalism. Those racist comments were not made by Paul, and he has taken responsibility for not watching what went out in some newsletters more closely. Of all the people running in this race, Ron Paul has the most respect for civil liberties of anyone.


The whores at FOX didn't ask about the newsletters because they had already heard Paul's answer and they didn't want their audience to hear it. The question is dishonest and the answer would make Ron Paul even more popular with blacks and everyone else than he already is. The creeps at FOX wouldn't dare risk it. They'll spread the newsletter story when he isn't there to reply.


Looks like Ron Paul has picked up another endorsement from a veteran politico:

http://davidduke.com

Ron Paul 2008
The South Will Rise A'gin


This author seems to think that a snide, dishonest wise-crack and a leering smirk makes a "breakout" night for a candidate. Too much TV, not enough thinking.

Ron Paul won the debate. Fox news lost again.


I just have one question. If Fox news is so bad and biased...Why do you watch it? Oh yea most of you are liberal and don't have a real reason to rant. Don't be mad because your choice canidate(paul)appeared to be a blithering moron. That is not Fox news fault. Everyone got the same questions and a chance to respond. What else can you expect from a debate?
Just a bunch of liberal pucks!


Here's how I would like to have seen Paul put Cameron in his place on the 9/11 truther question:

1. "It has also been noted that a small number of white nationalists have decided to support my candidacy. Is it the duty of all us candidates to monitor all the different beliefs held by everyone who supports us?"

2. "If I'm elected president, what do you want me to do about truthers - or Mormons for that matter? An angel giving some gold plates to a young farmboy would be considered by many to be much more unlikely than what the truthers believe. Would you want a president to repudiate their support? Round them up and put them in jail? Abrogate their Rights of religion and free speech? Revoke their citizenship? Exile them from the country?"

3. "Do you ever ask Obama whether he will repudiate the support of any black nationalist Nation of Islam folks who might be likely to support his candidacy? Of course you don't? And so why do you ask me that kind of a question? Is it because I'm not one of the media-anointed candidates that you or your employer, Mr. Murdoch, want to see win this election?"

4. "Enough of this trivial nonsense already. Let's stick to debating the really important economic and foreign policy issues that are going to determine the quality of our future, and possibly even the very survival of this country as a sovereign nation."


SC voters (and voters from other states as well) if the debate helped you make decide you can help your choice score here:

http://www.ireachable.com/vote

you may want to rush because others are voting


Ron Paul got by easy??

ROTFL!!!!

Fox News did everything possible to make Ron look bad on that stage and it backfired in their faces BIGTIME!

Huh?

I wonder why Fox didn't ask Ron about the letters?

Maybe it's because they saw the Wolf Blitzer interview and they were afraid it would backfire in their faces as well?

I truly believe they were waiting for the last part of the debate to ask him that question, but since Ron was on such a ROLL, they thought better of it.


Thompson and McCain both used Muslim Arabs as the butt of their jokes, sadly the crowd ate it up. Evidently it is only racism if they are are black or hispanic. Middle easterners are fair game?


Besides the fact that Fox OPENLY wears their bias on their sleeves what I found disturbing is that these politicians act like we are in a War to prevent a War from coming to our shores. Hrmmmm. Let me get this right. We have had over 15 million people flood our country ILLEGALLY and that is not WAR? Are you frickin' kidding me? It is a CULTURAL war. A war that will be won without ever firing a SINGLE shot. As far as the debate goes. ANYONE who has ANY common sense and a legitimate concern for this countries' direction KNOWS that Ron Paul SPANKED the other candidates. He is the MOST qualified candidate running and represents Ronald Reagan's views probably better than Reagan himself. The ONE thing Ron Paul lacks is Charisma. I guess Bush got elected because he was so good looking and so great at speaking? What a joke. This is an election, people, not a beauty contest. If you want to feel good about yourself educate yourself and quit letting the Lamestream Media make your decisions for you!


I have never seen a more fauxed debate in my Life. The interviewers were attempting to scorch Ron Paul and he prevailed. I would have liked to see all of the candidates bunched up in that little room that Fox had in the New Hampshire debates with Ron Paul sitting right in the middle.


Ron Paul would come across negatively in that exchange in question if you do not pay attention to what was being said. After Ron Paul provided a logical explanation that we should use caution about the incident and the fact that in previous situations the US has blown events out of proportion which helped lead to wars, Brit Hume asked what are you responding to? Here is a quick sample - Huckabee said we would send the Iranian soldiers to "the gates of Hell", Thompson said we would let them see "the virgins the Muslims are always talking about", Giuliani said we should work with other nations to impose further sanctions on Iran, and Romney painted the incident as a well orchestrated act of war by Iran to test our resolve and defenses. All of these comments are highly aggressive and are really way over the top of the incident especially since we do not have all the facts yet. Ron Paul, time and time again yesterday, provided the most logical responses to questions on Israel Policy, how the party has lost its way, whether Ron Paul is electable etc. Instead of focusing on all of this Macho talk we should pay attention to the content of what is being said.


The comments on this story seem to indicate to me that anytime the Ron Paul zealots don't see their main man being made out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread then they will loudly boo, protest, claim bias and otherwise whine.

On a more serious note, I think that McCain was hit during the debate. The man has a defeatist attitude about jobs. He basically said, "Some jobs will go away, oh well. I guess I can't bring them back." Romney may not be able to stop every job from leaving our shores but at least he said he would fight to keep them from going. In other words, if the jobs try to leave then McCain would simply stand by holding the door while Mitt would grab them and try to pull them back into the country and keep them here. Seems like a big distinction to me.


Ron Paul is the only candidate that displayed substance and thought process in his answers. The man basses his decision on logic and reason, not emotion. He recognizes that emotion is for guidance not decision making. He is a man of great character and those who question it have obviously not been exposed to the vast amount of essays and speeches this man has given over the years. Circumstantial evidence if repeated enough will bend the weak minded to inaccurate conclusion. Think for yourself; Do not be easily led by the bridle of emotion.

McCain is a fool if he thinks we are not going into a recession. Bad Economic Records are being set at an unprecedented rate. Things are crashing on a massive scale never seen before. The Idea that McCain

Romney has the economic savvy and more than likely would be a good president. He is more of a compromiser than I would prefer.

Huckabee is a slick talking socialist in my opinion. He has great command of the language but is strategically telling people what he thinks they want to hear. He has steadily adopted closer positions to Ron Paul since the first debate.

Giuliani is just as corrupt as Hillary.

Thompson is just pretending. No real substance to his positions or character. More of the same.

Ron Paul is the only candidate that does not blow in the wind and has the wisdom to ask the right questions to allow logical conclusion.

I vote for virtue; I vote for Ron Paul.


Dear Frank... Thank you for your fair assessment on the debate. Being a Dr. Paul supporter, it was refreshing to allow Dr. Paul's words to be used rather than not used or changed. One item, how is peace a democratic issue/ stance? When I listen to the democrats, they wish to remain in war as much as the republicans. I honestly believe Dr. Paul is the only candidate that speaks of peace. Thank you.


Why doesn't Fox ask about the 5 privatley held banks that make up the federal reserve?
Why doesn't anyone ask why the federal government gave away it's ability to create money to these banks who now charge us interest?

Why doesn't anyone ask why 30% of revenue the IRS collects goes to these private banks when Congress has the right(in the constitution) to create this same money at littel or no cost?

All the rest is a smoke screen.

Wake up America before it's too late...


I thought McCain doomed his campaign last night. He challenged Ron Paul on foreign policy, giving Ron Paul an opportunity to remind America that John McCain wants the war in Iraq to go on for the next hundred years.

Then McCain made a bigoted statement about burkas, one that I'm sure won't be well received by the large Arab community in Michigan.


After a night of Fox asking Paul questions that attempted to make him look stupid, Paul declined the up-close interview after the debate. WHY? Fox was saving the racists newsletter question for the grand finale! This is old news that Paul explained 20 years ago.


The other candidates didn't bring up the newsletter issue because they know that it's only the mere wisp of a ghost of a skeleton in Dr. Paul's closet, one that's he's competently exorcised years ago... now, those guys, they have entire hordes of infected zombies in their closets, and they don't want to tempt fate lest their closet doors be opened.


Ron Paul have addressed the issues and repudiated the letters. If you read them anyone with an ounce of intelligence can tell they are not from Dr. Paul. They are written very poorly and are on a completely opposite spectrum of any official Dr. Paul release or speech.

If you want a racism with hunt, why dont you cover the 2 things that were said LAST NIGHT.

Thompson referenced the Iranians being once step closer to those "Virgins" (meaning all Iranians are radical islamic terrorists?

Or Mccains statement of trading "Burkas" with the Al-Qaeda. Im sure all the Muslim females that were stoned or killed for not wearing them would appreciate that statment!


It wasn't a coincidence that he wasn't asked to defend himself on this issue. It would have then been obvious that this has become a smear tactic which interesting enough seems to pop up as the first story every time you Google for Ron Paul news. If you look at the time stamp it isn't the latest news piece on him. Why is that?.. I suppose they think if they always launch with this story it is going to effect perceptions. Nah! Pretty transparent. What was with the Fox foc us group? I don't think so!


Chris Williams,

In what universe would a liberal support Ron Paul, a Libertarian? (Anarchist)

Particularly one that is against abortion, Social Security, socialized medicine, enviro-ism, and any number of other liberal causes?



LOL @ "Fox News journalists".

Carl Cameron should be


You can't be serious. You can write a piece with such an obvious disdain for Paul, try to mask it as responsible journalism, and still feel good about yourself at the end of the day? It's pretty tragic.


Every time I read the responses of the people of this country I am in awe of their insite.

Financially this country is going down the toilet. Our national debt is fast approching 10 TRILLION dollars! It is acculumating at 1.2 million dollars A MINUTE! Yet we never hear any of the candidates talk about it, except Ron Paul. He keeps reminding us we are going broke; the other candidates chuckle at him.

I, for one, don't want to leave my children and grandchildren saddled with this huge debt.

In addition, the MSM in this country aids and abets the other candidates by limiting Ron Paul's message every chance they get. The media, in general, should be ashamed of the way they have treated him! And Fox News is terrible! How can they sleep at night!

We're going down the toilet folks. None of the other candidates talk about solutions the way Ron Paul does. It will be just more of the same. And the longer it takes to fix it, the harder it will be. Remember the old commercial: You can pay me now or you can pay me later.

Go Ron Paul. I'm with you till the end!!


PS - The 'focus group' was a joke!!! Huge Joke!! We can see thru ya, Fox News.


Looks like Ron Paul has picked up another endorsement from a veteran politico:

http://davidduke.com

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Posted by: Smirky McFlightsuit | January 11, 2008 10:51 AM

I would not call this an unqualified endorsement, especially given David Duke’s stated disagreements with Ron Paul regarding Martin Luther King, Jr., free trade, immigration, affirmative action and welfare.

You’re not trying to parlay David Duke’s endorsement into some claim that Ron Paul is a racist, are you? That wouldn’t be fair. Ron Paul hasn’t reciprocated with any support for David Duke. Until he starts giving his assent to the racist ideas – which he clearly has not – he cannot fairly be labeled a racist.

So, then, why did you bring this up?


Bad news, Geepa, this is the end. You and congressman Paul can go back to talking fiscal responsibility while inserting fat earmarks to benefit the shrimp industry into spending bills. What a bunch of heros.


I give up msm and now these blogs - have railroaded these newsletter that I know in my heart was not written by Ron Paul.

I give up you can't fight the power. Sign me up for Sheeple duty.

Back to the Simpson’s for me.


Doctor Paul is the perfect candidate for President in '08.

1808 that is.

He stands for returning to economic and governmental structures and policies appropriate for a small agarian nation, not a modern idustrial nation.

He's against the Civil Rights Act, he's all for the "states rights" to make blacks second class citizens or worse.

Hes' all for individual civil liberties, except for gays. They should go back into the closet.

Ron Paul is the wrong man for this century.


John McCain said, “Ron Paul is the most honest man in politics" So there you have it from your front runner’s mouth. So who are you to say John McCain is a liar!
You see the point you are trying to make is pointless. Ron Paul is not a racist but he is the most American of anyone running for office because he is a Constitutionalist. You have to attack the people around Ron Paul because you can not attack him for anything he has done himself.
So please take your rag of a paper and go home or you might try telling the truth that this story is over 10 years old and no one believed he was a racist then or now. You are just a shill for the big banks and the fake money people who have been counterfeiting our money since 1914. Go play in your sand box with the other children who like throwing sand.


If you are going to call Ron Paul anti semetic you should back it up. Being against the Israeli Lobby is not anti-semetic. They don't deserve our money.

The racist parts were dealt with. Old news to a lot of Ron Paul supporters.


I'm glad to see the mainstream media fox was exposed, I knew I smelled a Rattt,with the panel after the debate. Fox media must really think the common folk are stupid..Well as long as they keep screwing up the truth will continue to be exposed.Great Job Fox..There are no sheep watching these debates..


Interesting you didn't bring up Ron Paul's answer on the economy. He is clearly the most knowledgeable economist on that stage and provided a solid answer on the business cycle and the root cause of our problems.

Romney got booed more than applauded for his remark but I wouldn't know that from reading your article.
No mention of Fox News asking him odd ball questions about un-electability and 9/11 conspiracies? Both of which I think Paul handled very well.

In the article the only mentions of Dr. Paul were negative while the others got a fair description of the give and take between the candidates.

I found your article lacking in balance to say the least.


Award for stupidest media comment of the day:

Frank James, above: "Was there a fear [criticism of Ron Paul] would create a tidal wave of backlash against the news network by fervent Paul supporters? Or that it would derail the debate? Or that the other candidates would be forced to repudiate Paul, which could cost the eventual Republican nominee support from Paul supporters later on?"

Three alternatives posed by Mr. James, none of them remotely correct.

The fact of the matter: Republican candidates don't care that much about Ron Paul. However big Ron Paul is among Democrat media types, he's just a blip on Republican's radar screen. It makes no sense for the leading GOP candidates to go after the 5th place finisher in New Hampshire.


As the DNC said in ‘96 ‘It is the economy stupid’.

Our Nation produces 13.1 trillion dollars of wealth each year, and of that the government takes 2.4 trillion dollars and spends 2.6 trillion dollars. Since the government spends more than it takes, it has developed a debt, which is currently 10 trillion dollars. We have promised to make future expenditures above and beyond what we are currently spending, to an amount of 58 trillion dollars between 2017 and 2040. This works out to an average of 2.5 trillion dollars a year. In addition to this, 4 trillion dollars of the debt will also need to be paid back without any additional sources of revenue, although existing taxation can be increased.

To put this in perspective, imagine that you work for a company that earns $131,000 of annual revenue, they pay you $23,000 a year, and your budget is $26,000 for the year. At the same time you have $64,000 on the credit cards and $46,000 that you have borrowed from your 401k, and just signed a 30 year mortgage for your parent’s house for $580,000, but the property is condemned. And this is all okay because you have $6.59 in the bank. Your parents are going to give you $1,000 a year until 2017, and then they need you to start paying them back.

We have established significant control over air travel, but our boarders are open, illegal immigration is not under control, our ports are not secure, and our visa system has not been updated. If the government thought that terrorism is a serious problem, they haven’t done anything to stop it, yet they have stripped our rights and liberties under the banner of terrorism since October of 2001. Although we haven’t plugged any of the holes in our system, there hasn’t been a terrorist attack on U.S. soil for over 6 years. The government spending and the economy will destroy this nation in less than 33 years.

I believe that Ron Paul is the only candidate from either the Republican or Democratic parties that will even attempt to fix this.

(Numbers have been obtained from the CIA Fact book.)


Can we please let Dr. Paul participate in the same debate as the rest of the candidates?

Whatever happened to the basic idea of showing respect to your elders? The way the Faux News panel smirked and pulled faces while they spoke to Dr. Paul was ridiculous. He is the only person in the GOP field who honestly answers questions. How about reporting a piece based on his foreign policy responses?

One last comment...if journalists are going to engage in these news "hit pieces" like the TNR did, and others also talking about the "story" then you should also fairly report Dr. Paul's strong rebuttal just as loudly and prominently.


Frank,
It's clear that you hate Ron Paul. You say nothing positive about him and only point out the newsletter smear. How low can you go?

Also, when the Fox moderator clearly picked on Paul in a non-objective way about the question on Iran passivity, the moderator was wrong: only one candidate actually said they supported the decision to be passive and that was Fred Thompson. And he barely said he supported their decision.

Here are all the candidates answers:

Huckabee: I'm going to trust that the president, with the information that he had and that those com-manders had, made the right decision. (he said the president made the right decision. the moderator asked if American commander in the Strait of Hormuz made the right decison, not the president). He then went on to say that he "supports their (commanders) capacity to make the decision" and he believes they have the "judgement to make those calls". He never said whether or not he thinks they made the right decision.

Guiliani: he NEVER answered the question. Ha launched into some nonsense about the NIE and how we are not going to take crap from Iran.

McCain: Hypothetically, he said he would trust the commanders were he president. Then, he hypothetically stated that he would have carefully assessed the situation were he the commander. He then said that we shouldn't judge them because we were not personally involved in the situation. Again, McCain didn't answer the question of whether it was the right choice and he never openly supported their choice to be passive.

Fred Thompson's answer: "Yes, I think so". (he "thinks" they made the right choice). Then, he launched into another "Iran has to understand it can't mess with us or we will destroy it" diatribe.

Romney's way of answering the questions was to poke fun of Ron Paul and then tell us how he will be tough with Iran. Again, he never answered the question and he strayed off-topic like the rest.

Ron Paul said he would "urge more caution" and proceeded to tell us that we are blowing this incident out of proportion.

Now, Frank, why is it ok for the moderator to single out Ron Paul for not fully answering the question, but not the rest of the candidates who didn't answer either? Why is not ok for Ron Paul to expand the answer to talk about foreign policy but it is ok for the others.

Hm. Maybe it's because every candidate but Paul spouts the same rhetoric and Fox (and you) don't want to hear anything that goes against your stubborn opinions.

Frank, did you go to school for this line of work? Unbelievable.

Thanks for making my passion for Ron Paul's candidacy even stronger. Thanks.


Ron Paul did GREAT in the Faux debate last night! YOU HAVE MY VOTE DR. PAUL!!!


If Fox brought up the Ron Paul newsletters it would help Paul in South Carolina as most of the Republicans in South Carolina have the same views expressed in those newsletters. The last thing the Fox network wants to do is help Ron Paul in South Carolina so they never mentions the newsletters.


Are you really a reporter? If so, are all in trouble. First of all the phrase "which have become a big story ever" is something that would have come out of my 12 year old's mouth.

Second, if you ever did any RESEARCH, you know, that stuff where you actually read things that were written before started typing, that thing that all journalists SHOULD do before they write, you would know that this is decades old news, not the biggest story ever.

This junk has come up every election Ron Paul has ever had. It came up 6 months ago, 5 months ago, 4 months ago, 3 months ago and every single time he shows a lead anywhere.

This story is older than my dinosaur and that phrase is older than you.

Are you so naive fail to see that after a hundred or articles on the topic that the New Republic was simply trying to find any dirt it could on Ron Paul and then settled on the oldest most worn out piece of tired news they could find.

And you think this is the biggest story ever. Why not do a breaking news story on Watergate while you are at it, and don't forget a certain dress with a stain on it.

I could forgive you because you were probably in diapers when this story first broke, but not to do research and then pretend this is news is heinous.

I spit on your article and you by proxy.

Why don't you Google the topic and go read some of the decades old articles on this subject so you know how it ends:

Ron Paul was responsible for the article because it was in a newsletter containing his name, he took responsibility because it did contain his name (something a snot nosed little kid like you would never understand) and then apologized for the junk, made it clear those were not his words and then he moved on.

He goes through this at least once every two years.

Get over it and learn how to be a real writer instead of the thought vomiter you are right now.


LOL, your opinions are laughable, which is why I am laughing out loud. You mock the only voice of reason amongst a crowd of war mongers. No one needs your lousy commentary. You know what, your wonderful op-ed has entirely changed my mind. War is the best policy, peace is for wusses. I hope your sons are sent to Iran or pakistan, you asked for it.


I like Ron Paul, but the guy is seriously unstable. I cannot even fathom how anyone in this day and age believes that 19th century foreign policy ideas work in today's environment. A disaster as president, but thankfully has no chance of getting the nomination.



Ron Paul lent his name to a small newsletter for a short time that he did not edit, while he was out of politics and concentrating on delivering babies. I look at it as running an unmoderated blog in the days before the internet. The writing style was not Ron Paul's. In his newsletters since being back in Congress, he is clearly in charge and they are wonderful to read. Clearly Paul is the most vehement anti-racist, anti-sexist, pro-individual, and pro-gay rights person in Congress. He ran as a Libertarian Presidential candidate for gosh sakes. The New Republic did not even contact Ron Paul to talk to him about their story and they did not seem to know that it had been discussed ad nauseum several times over the years and dismissed as not reflecting Ron Paul's beliefs. The New Republic, if you will remember, compared Ross Perot to Hitler! Ron Paul is a good man being smeared for political reasons.

Check out this website for the CNN interview with Ron Paul about this where all is explained:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/01/hotline_after_d_323.html


Paul got off easy? What world do you live in??? The whole night was attack Ron Paul night.


How can you say the debate was a wash? Ron Paul cleaned house. I am continually surprised by the new lengths news channels and media will go to in an attempt to write Ron Paul off as a viable candidate. Could it be that Big Brother is scared about Americans hearing the truth? Are they scared Ron Paul might actually win? He's got one heck of a following, so the more you censor Ron paul and downplay his chances, the stronger his support base gets. He is revolutionary, and he is the only candidiate thinking of bettering the lives of Americans, not just himself.


Geepa,

Many Dems talk about the national debt all the time.
If you remember, the last time the incredibly rising bell curve started to level out was under.....Clinton.

You are correct, though; we approach $11tb in national debt in a year of two.

Note the line flattens out in 98-2000 time frame, (ClintonTime) but then takes off like a Scud missle in 2001, almost, almost, like like, it was planned that way.

http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm


That doesn't even make any sense. Does anyone "lend their name" to a publication they don't edit? If this is true, Ron Paul is amazingly stupid to put his name on something that this racist group attributed to him for a fee.


That doesn't even make any sense. Does anyone "lend their name" to a publication they don't edit? If this is true, Ron Paul is amazingly stupid to put his name on something that this racist group attributed to him for a fee.


Maybe they didnt bring that nonsense up because even Faux News realizes that the issue has already been laid to rest, the candidate himself has already addressed it numerous times, and that its a serious reach to somehow paint Ron Paul as a vicious racist.

Now, is it just me...or should there be FAR greater outrage and serious questions over Hillary Clinton throwing Senator Robert Byrd (former Grand Cyclops of the KKK who to this day lets the "n" word slip in speeches and tv appearances) a BIRTHDAY PARTY IN THE FORMER HOME OF FREDERICK DOUGLASS?

How about Mitt Romney lying through his teeth and telling numerous crowds in speeches as well as Tim Russert on Meet the Press that his father marched with Martin Luther King....when this never actually HAPPENED at all and Romney had to redefine the word "saw" just to wriggle away from it?

For the past 6 months the mainstream media (with a few exceptions) has avoided Ron Paul and his phenomenal (even if not successful) campaign story, falling back on the excuse that he is "unelectable" or "has no chance."

Well, time to PUT UP or SHUT UP.
If Ron Paul is an "unelectable candidate" and "doesnt have a shot" then surely you dont need to keep nitpicking at a bogus issue that has been resolved for over ten years in a desperate attempt to paint him as a racist. More to the point, you SHOULD BE placing greater scrutiny on those candidates you have been anointing as the inevitable "frontrunners" like Clinton and Romney- whose issues I just raised. Since you are so convinced that one of these particular media darlings will be undoubtedly our next president, I think the people they will be governing deserve some answers and explanations as to the events I just mentioned.

So there you have it. Ron Paul "has no chance" and is a "fringe candidate" blahblahblah. We get it. Great. So quit trying to dig up dirt on him (which isnt there) and give your favorite pre-anointed candidates the attention you've always wanted to give them:
- Ask Hillary why she threw a former KKK member a birthday party in the historic home of the country's most famous former slave and successful early black american figure.
- Ask Mitt Romney why he felt compelled to blatantly lie on several occasions (many of them nationally-televised) about his father marching with Martin Luther King when this never actually happened at all.
- Ask Rudy Giuliani about his ties with Bernard Kirek and why he was seriously considering making someone with a laundry list of federal corruption charges and alleged mob ties the head of the homeland security department.
- Ask Hillary who Peter Paul is and why he's suing her. Ask why she denied knowing this man in legal public documents and appeared soon after on video making a conference call to him and Stan Lee thanking them for the same fundraiser she denied any knowledge of before.


"and pro-gay rights person"

How can you say he's pro-gay rights when he supports banning adoption by gay couples, supports the Defense of Marriage Act and thinks gays should be banned from military service?


My guess is that the Fox debate folks don't want to give the Ron Paul followers any shred of evidence for later claiming that Ron Paul's newsletters were part of a Fox "plot"... or that Fox used them to hound Ron Paul to his demise.


Mark, in addition to being against gay rights he also thinks the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake. Add civil rights to that list...


"Newsletters were like blogs that were printed on paper and then physically delivered by the postal service, sometimes by horse"... hmmm, fascating, the idea of these news/letters. Were there ever people who put together a bigger version that came out daily? I think I've heard of people calling them news... papers?


Yeah, nice way to re-write history Baltimore Sun. Anybody who actually watched the debate knows that the candidates that spoke before Paul on the issue of Iran and the navy were making very gungho and bellicose statements about "sending Iran to the gates of hell" or "sending them to see their virgins" or some other wreckless, racist nonsense. Brit Hume was completely out of line and he knew it. It was a disgusting display of gutter journalism.

Is it crazy to expect a little bit more reason and restraint from presidential candidates that wrongfully assume that they have the right to commit US troops to wars of their own choosing? It is the role of Congress to declare war for good reason and as Paul said, the last thing America needs is another war that it can't afford!

You talk about racist newsletters despite racism being completely against Ron Paul's anti-collectivist, Libertarian views and public record. How about the racist comments that came directly from the mouths of candidates like McCain, Romney, Hucklebee and Thompson during the debate? Oh I guess it doesn't count when it's directed toward the Muslim world because they are all terrorists. The hypocrisy is unbelievable!!

Oh and let's not forget the utter childishness displayed by all the candidates except Paul. Giggling and personal attacks like a bunch of school children. And you want these morons running the greatest military power in the world??!


Am I missing something or didn't Ron Paul acknowledge that MLK is a personal hero of his? By the way, MLK was black. So, that means that Ron Paul acknowledges a black man as a hero of his. I'm trying to slow it down for you so you can understand, but the bottom line is Ron Paul is the least racist of the candidates.


Romney got booed loudly and looked like an immature jackass.
You can even see the supressed surprise and regret on his face.
Ron Paul gets the most donations of any candidate, Repub. or Dem.
Stop the bald-faced favoritism, it make you look ridiculous when we can all see the footage of Romney getting the loudest boos of the night.
Stop trying to tell us what to see!


The economy is headed towards stagflation. This will be much worse than just a recession because lowering interest rates will only exacerbate the problem.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who grasps these issues and has a solution to the coming economic catastrophe.


The economy is headed towards stagflation. This will be much worse than just a recession because lowering interest rates will only exacerbate the problem.

Ron Paul is the only candidate who grasps these issues and has a solution to the coming economic catastrophe.


The newsletter is old news and even older news. We all read this story months and months ago. It's just got brought back up the day of the Nh primary. You won't here that in MSM but will all know it. Yawns and cries of weak are directed at the author. Do some real journalism for once.


For those who are curious what all the fuss is about:

RP on the Civil Rights Act
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html


Fox probably didn't ask Paul about the racist newsletters because they thought it might help him in South Carolina. They're still flying the Confederate Flag down there. Very sad all around.


Wow, you really are a tool for the establishment. Even FoxNews had a better and more fair write up about the debate on their website where they mentioned Ron Paul 16 times in their article and actually gave him his due (for the most) for his performance in the debate.


Hmm...
You have to ask yourself, how come these scumbags not going after the so call "Front-runner" but Dr. Paul?
It's call containment. Because Dr. Paul will blow all of them away!

Do you smell a fish? I do!


Have any of the Paulites considered that maybe that's why Paul IS so far behind? That everything he says really is crazy and it's not the mainstream media that's united in this vast conspiracy against him?

The front-runners go after him because he's an easy scalp. He's the debate equivalent of low-hanging fruit. Remember, he doesn't even know that Lincoln offered to buy and free the slaves before the Civil War. And this guy's trying to tell US what is and isn't constitutional?

Anywhere, your campaign is dead in the water, so what is there really to argue about? You're losing debates and primaries. Not much momentum there.


I think Paul was right. We shouldn't rush to judgment over these things. Iran's messing with us because they know we're in a tense position and they want us to snap and make a bad move.


Dear Swampy Frank,

No other candidate in either party is anywhere as beloved as our Dr. Paul. He cannot help but speak the truth and trying to malign him will not work; he is too obviously a good man to all who know him and hear him speak.

It is people with minds like yours that try to crush the hopes and dreams of the American people by selling them more poison and beating them down with subversive lies. I really do wonder what your true agenda is.

Are you feeling left out because you are not one of the "fervent supporters" of the good, wise Dr. Paul?

We have been called "the young, the frustrated and the intelligent" and there's still time for you to join us. You might as well, because you cannot stop us. We are too strong and growing more powerful every day.


Time to Out the Bigots
The Ron Paul Letters of twenty years ago have been grist for every form of slander against the man and the campaign. It's way past time for the perpetrators to be outed and condemned.

http://www.nolanchart.com/article1065.html


Here's the deal folks:

Ron Paul has been painted as a kook, just like Ross Perot. He will be proven years from now(or sooner) to be right in all his viewpoints, just like Perot. The 10% who vote for him will get no satisifaction from it either because we'll be in bread lines with the 90% of idiots in the country who voted for someone else. We live is a country of stupid, scared, lazy & fat people-many of which are looking for their next handout...whether it be Universal Healthcare or more gov't entitlements. Gone are the days of enterprising people who are self-reliant and hard working, with no real need for a gov't nanny. Australia and New Zealand both rank higher in economic and personal freedom(US is #4 or 5 last time I checked)...America has become a caricature of what we once represented.


What I find interesting is that Paul won the 40,000+ text message poll that Fox conducted to see who won the debate but they didn't mention it on their site. I have however seen other news sources say that Paul lost the debate because that is what the 20 hand picked people that Fox News selected to comment on the debate said.

Hum!, The opinions of 20 people against 40,000. Which seems more representative?

FAIR AND BALANCED!


Dr. Pauls letter on his website to us, his supporters was as usual right on. We are fighhting a very powerfull enemy in the MSM and establishment that wants to keep it's power and influence.

Articles like this only prove that fact more and more. It does make me wonder how shills like the author sleep at night. Since I don't think the author is stupid I think he is a tool.


"and pro-gay rights person"

"How can you say he's pro-gay rights when he supports banning adoption by gay couples, supports the Defense of Marriage Act and thinks gays should be banned from military service?

Posted by: Mark | January 11, 2008 3:41 PM"

Mark,

You have hit on something I have been trying get across; Libertarians, it the olden days were in favor of unfettered, iron fist capitalism, but also favored personal liberty, like decriminalization of Mj, prostitution, abortion rights, privacy, freedom to read and view whatever books, films, art you may so wish.

But Mr. Paul seems to favor the iron fisted unfettered capitalism, but then flogs the Conservative Christian social agenda.

What kind of Libertarian is that?


"He will be proven years from now(or sooner) to be right in all his viewpoints, just like Perot."

What? Was he proven right when his fledling reform party imploded at its own national convention? And imploded angrily, at that, as different members physically fought for the podium? Or when Jesse Ventura, no sane straightshooter himself, let the party because even he admitted it was a "dysfunctional national party?"

I can't think of a single thing Ross Perot was right about other than Americans like charts. Today Ross Perot is nothing more than a footnote in election history.


Regardless of what happens with the presidential race, I believe that history will be very good to Ron Paul. It will be shown that he was right on every count, and it saddens me to say that we will go through much suffering before this comes to be true.

But, fortunately for me and many other Ron Paul supporters - we live the life that Ron Paul speaks of - within our means, and with respect for life and liberty. So, we will survive and be stronger from it.

To me, Ron Paul is light in a very dark world. I am sticking with this good man until the end.

Ron Paul, 2008!


Ron Paul IS a kook. If he didn't write them then he tacitly consented to them.


First of all, Yalie Bonesman Kirchick did not 'break' this old story about some newsletter that had supposedly objectionable stuff in it. (I did not even think it was objectionable)

So it was old news already countered and no one cares.

Second, they shut off Paul's microphone so he could not hear the question. How sick is that???


Dear Swampy Frank,

No other candidate in either party is anywhere as beloved as our Dr. Paul. He cannot help but speak the truth and trying to malign him will not work; he is too obviously a good man to all who know him and hear him speak.

It is people with minds like yours that try to crush the hopes and dreams of the American people by selling them more poison and beating them down with subversive lies. I really do wonder what your true agenda is.

Are you feeling left out because you are not one of the "fervent supporters" of the good, wise Dr. Paul?

We have been called "the young, the frustrated and the intelligent" and there's still time for you to join us. You might as well, because you cannot stop us. We are too strong and growing more powerful every day.


Jef he is not against civil rights, he's against gov't bestowing rights/money on special interest groups.

Legislating rights is not fair to those who are not included.

Ron Paul is THE champion of civil rights and in a better way than MLK.


"How can you say he's pro-gay rights when he supports banning adoption by gay couples, supports the Defense of Marriage Act and thinks gays should be banned from military service?

Posted by: Mark | January 11, 2008 3:41 PM"

Mark,

You have hit on something I have been trying get across; Libertarians, in the olden days were in favor of unfettered, iron fist capitalism, but also favored personal liberty, like decriminalization of Mj, prostitution, abortion rights, privacy, freedom to read and view whatever books, films, art you may so wish.

But Mr. Paul seems to favor the iron fisted unfettered capitalism, but then flogs the Conservative Christian social agenda.

What kind of Libertarian is that?



Oh God, they're saying he's a bigger civil rights authority than Martin Luther King, Jr., now. Not going to win any friends with that argument, Paulites.


Regading the Civil Rights Acts, many of us saw this as a problem for property rights when they were up for passage in 1963 and 1964 and wrote resolutions against them, all to no avail. It was politics as usual that won out. It may interest you to know that one of our greatest Black educators, Dr. Thomas Sowell is on record as saying that Blacks were making more progress before the Civil Rights Acts than after. Try arguing with him and you will quickly look like an idiot. A sense of entitlement never helped anyone. My vote will go for Dr. Paul even if it is a write in.


With cons and libertarians, property rights trump human rights every time.


This is for Jeff on Perot:

"I can't think of a single thing Ross Perot was right about other than Americans like charts."

You sir, are a moron. He was right on NAFTA(the giant sucking sound of jobs going south), he was right on the value of the dollar, and the tie-in to the economy, manufacturing, and our standard of living as well our our nations propensity to spend more than we take in.

It doesn't suprise me that you only remember "charts" as I'm sure you're happy with the 30 second sound bites encompassing simple solutions to very complex problems that cardboard candidates proselytize to the ignorant masses.

Please go back to sleep sir as it is less annoying to hear silence than stupidity.


The neo-con candidates were lined up like so many bowling pins.

Ron Paul threw a strike!!

Somebody,wont mention any names(blogger), must have been watching the debate in some parallel Universe.

Whatever, just getting a little sick of the Main Stream media lies.

And yes, this blog is Mainstream.


you are a useless man,one single ass hair of ron paul worths more than the whole of you.
you're just another dumb journalist trying to smear an honest man.


I've seen Ron answer these questions and really its the elites that want to destroy RP that got off easy. Dont piss this guy off with this bogus racial stuff cuz he will make you look foolish like he did CNN.

The more you try to destroy him and let him the better he looks.


Hey Franky, you just keep pushing that yellow journalism, it just makes you look silly. You lose all credibility with supporting these false accusations of racism. Dr. Paul says it like it is. He is a unifying force because people from all walks of life see common ground with him. His ranks come from both sides of the isle republicans, democrates, greens, independents, libertarians, men, women, white, black, latin, asian, gay, strieght,rich, poor,etc.. We the people arent as ignorant as you think, we can see thru the clouds. America is waking up, and I for the first time in my life I see the real patriots of this county rising. So keep doing what you do, cause were comming.... From an old democrate, independent, and green member. Voting for the first time a republican. And an Imigrant. RON PAUL, RON PAUL, RON PAUL!!!! My appathy is cured.


Huck won, looking presidential under attack, taking things in stride, using terms that matter to people, communicating with clarity. Fred seemed a bit grouchy.


With cons and libertarians, property rights trump human rights every time.

Posted by: TheReamer | January 11, 2008 6:54 PM

Your thinking here is wrong-headed and confused.

The basic human rights at common law were (and are): life, limb, liberty, property and reputation. In other words, the right to property is a human right. It is a human right because it is necessary for a man to have property to sustain his life, limb and liberty. Were this not the case, the government wouldn’t be handing out so much property in the form of social welfare programs.

As a human right, the right to property cannot "trump" itself. It is properly regarded as an important human right, just like all the others.

The real problem is with pseudo-liberals who do not regard the right to property enough. They find nothing wrong with property confiscation of any form as long as it serves their vision of a collective society. In other words, they tend to drift way too much toward socialism.

Frederick Bastiat, a 19th Century French Member of Parliament and prolific essayist on issues of government and economics, had two important things to say about socialism and government:

1) Government (especially under the influence of socialism) is a fiction by which everyone attempts to live at the expense of everyone else; and,

2) Ethical government should not undertake to do by its power what a private person cannot do without being guilty of a crime. Thus, as it is a crime for one to confiscate the goods of his neighbor without his consent, the government ought not be able to confiscate the property from his neighbor for him.


Is the Sun taking it's place in the kangaroo court trying to convict Ron Paul of racism? Look at ALL the evidence not just some pamplet written in Dr. Paul's name without his approval. SMEAR MONGERS!!!!


this is politics! They (fox) did not want to ask him questions reguarding his newsletter. They put the smeer out and hope it will stick. This is old news, everyone who knows Ron Paul, knows he is not a racist. These newsletters were plants for the day "they" could discredit him. Don't you think the timing this old story comes around again is very funny? Look, when you take on the banking industry among many you will make enemy's! Ron Paul is the man of the people. I hope everyone takes the time to "google" RON PAUL!


"get off easy" -Are you serious? Paul friggen delivered one of the most epic, gracious, and truth-telling speeches last night, and you're saying he just slipped on by?

Good job, keep peddling the downfall of this country.


Yawn....


Fox News goes all out to have viewers vote for the winner and then they do not acknowldge Ron Paul as the overwhelming favorote with 30%. I am giving him $500 tonight to keep up the good work. Only honest person on the stage last night.


The discourteous treatment of Ron Paul and his supporters at the recent Republican debate in South Carolina was disturbing. The moderators and other candidates were disrespectful and condescending. The ridicule of the media elite and other candidates at first made me angry, but now I just feel pity. What happened to the big tent? Fox News resented having to include Ron Paul in the debate, and it appears Dr. Paul’s fellow candidates felt the same. Their arrogance betrays them. How dare this man and his supporters compel them to treat him as an equal! Instead of welcoming a variety of opinions and views, particularly one that stands in such contrast to their own, they decide to laugh at Ron Paul and insult his supporters. As matter of fact Fox News so hated Ron Paul that when they re-aired the debate they cut out one of his best moments.

You would think a party as desperate to win as they most certainly are, considering they have lost their majorities in the US House and Senate would welcome Ron Paul. He has attracted the support of many independents, Democrats, and people who until this point have been non-participants in the electoral process. Instead, in their shortsightedness they prefer to insult and alienate. Their behavior tells me all I need to know about their character, or more accurately, the lack thereof. I hope that the journalists involved and the other candidates will demonstrate I am incorrect in my assessment of their character, publicly offer an apology, and assure Dr. Paul and his supporters they will not be silent if others repeat such treatment.


Meanwhile, what do you have to say about McCain's statement about middle easterners and burquas? If that is not the most racist statement I have heard on this campaign I dont know what is. Ron Paul's policies and voting record dont show a hint of racism, but Giulia's unfortunately do...his policys of cleaning up NYC have made him the most hated mayor of the time, especially among the often victimized african american constituency. Do your research next time.


'It was perhaps Romney's best line of the evening' - I agree, the fact that he was booed for his best line of the evening is saying he should get out of the race now and spare us his silly simple-minded simpleton utterances.


Typical report of Ron Paul, only commenting on the negative. When are you journalists going to start giving us the entire story like your job description tells you to do.

Ultimately all news is good news for Ron Paul. Nothing can stop an idea. The revolution has already begun.


Frank,

Honestly, Do you read the news? do you know what is going on? When you sight the debate discourse between Paul and Hume and then Romeny as if Paul was out of place in his statements. He said "Was there a rush to judgment on this, ready to go to war? And you know there are people in this administration, and in Washington, D.C., that are looking for the chance." He is exactly correct. And he didn't say those in this debate although they all except Paul, support Bush's policies right?.

Consider these Bush quotes from the 8th and 9th of this month. Speaking on Tuesday, just hours before departing from the middle east, Bush accused Iran of “a provocative act”, saying: “It is a dangerous situation, and they should not have done it, pure and simple.” Speaking in Jerusalem the following day after meeting with Israeli leaders, he went one step further, warning Tehran of “dangerous consequences” if US ships were attacked. “All options are on the table to protect our assets,” he said, “My advice to them is, don’t do it.”

Folks watch all the video and listen to the audio http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iran11jan11,1,1867482.story?coll=la-news-a_section http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&resnum=0&um=1&tab=wn&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=iran+boats&btnG=Search+News and ask yourself was this a threat that requires ALL OPTIONS. The Neo Cons are exposed as never before when they call this incident a threat.

I wish they would have the balls to just tell the American people that "we have to protect the oil dollar hegeminy at any cost".http://www.energybulletin.net/12125.html

One footnote is I agree with McCain that the military commanders should not be second guessed however this has nothing to do with Paul's comments.

It is past time for We the People to take our country back.

The truth will set you free.

Vote for Ron Paul Vote for freedom and world peace!

Paul T



Someone posted the following in a comment below. "Ron Paul provided a logical explanation that we should use caution about the incident and the fact that in previous situations the US has blown events out of proportion which helped lead to wars, Brit Hume asked what are you responding to? Here is a quick sample - Huckabee said we would send the Iranian soldiers to "the gates of Hell", Thompson said we would let them see "the virgins the Muslims are always talking about", Giuliani said we should work with other nations to impose further sanctions on Iran, and Romney painted the incident as a well orchestrated act of war by Iran to test our resolve and defenses. All of these comments are highly aggressive and are really way over the top of the incident especially since we do not have all the facts yet." Everyone who witnessed the debate should be shocked because the above comment is 100% correct. Brit Hume has lost his credibility as a journalist in my opinion with his unwarranted attack


Ron Paul's ideas and views on the Fed, the economy, the warfare state, the expansion of government, the IRS, the erosion of personal liberty and frankly what it means to be an American is why all the comments are focused on him. I'll take his record for the past 30 years over this faux pas that he has already answered and apologized for years ago. Great journalism Frank!


You guys in the liberal media are too much. If the clouds opened with great acclaim and Dr. Paul was borne by 10,000 angels into heaven, you fools would say, "Today is cloudy, with chances of rain in the evening," and that would be it. You have no intention of giving Dr. Paul the credit he deserves for introducing substantive matters for discussion on the national scene.

One thing I think you'd have to concede: When you look up on that debate stage, who, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is the man with the greatest integrity? Is it all the flip-floppers, or maybe McCain, the guy who gets angry and whines like a schoolgirl everytime he gets cross, or maybe Huckabee who couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it and strikes many as the embodiment of hypocrisy, or how about Guiliani who's working on his third wife who he was sleeping with while still married to his 2nd wife, or maybe Thompson, the sleepy guy, who you just know wants this thing to be over with so he can get back to bed.

Make no mistake about this: whatever you think of Dr. Paul's beliefs, he is the only Republican who has a prayer of a chance to defeat Hillary or Obama when November rolls around. The other Repubs will get creamed by the Demos. If the Repubs were smart, they'd rally around this man of honor and consistency and a personal life that actually reflects high values instead of just talking about them.


I don't know why we're here, defending Ron Paul against this obvious media bias. They won't care whatever we post here or email them, they'll just laugh at us. We need to be out on the streets, talking to people and spreading the message of Freedom! We've already seen what can happen in two states (not to mention the vote fraud in New Hampshire).

The media is trying to stop the spread of Ron Paul's message; let's not argue with someone who's unwilling to listen, let's change this country one uncorrupt person at a time!


Ron Paul has givin many responses in regards to the article where he is "quoted". And on his website he has a section dealing with racism. Ron Paul has consitantly said that racist views are completly incompatible with both libertarian and Christian ideals. For those who wish to discredit Dr. Paul all one has to do is look a little closer at the facts and the truth is revealed.


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I am a retired Lt col combat veteran with 350 combat fighter hours over Iraq and Bosnia and graduate of the USAF Academy. I have spent a good number of years in the middle East and in Europe in staff jobs with NATO, AIRSOUTH, 5 ATAF, SOUTHERN WATCH, the UN IN Zagreb, somalia, etc, etc. Let me assure every American. The average Arab hates us because we have arrogantly thrown our military weight around for 60 years, overthrowing democracies and installing dictators. Then we attack sovereign Muslim countries that we do not like? They see through our hipocracy and willingly sarcifice their lives. I completely support Ron Paul. He is the only 1 who gets it.

Paul R.


Why is the question posed to Paul of whether he is electable being left out? I thought his answer was strong, pointing out that the Republican party has lost its way, although I took the question to be insinuating that he looks too old and usually appears tired. Isn't McCain 71 though?
I thought the second strongest response came when Paul caught Huckabee in a paradon by saying that if the U.S. is so interested in protecting Israel, then why do we continue selling arms to their enemies?
Yes, prehaps they avoided the newletters because they were afraid Paul would once again bring up the issue of decriminalization of non-violent drug activity and end the war on drugs. I'd like to see the other candidates take that on actually.

Giuliani is a joke, he goes against the Republican base as much a people Paul does. If anybody should throw in the towel, it Rudy. No, you can wait in Flordia all you want, but the election isn't coming to you Mr. Mayor, sorry. Unless you know something I don't...


This is a horrible article. RON PAUL IS NOT A RACIST and if you DID your homework to research this fully, you wouldn't be FOOLISHLY acting as though it were a "breaking story".

what a horrible article. it makes me sick- starting from the TITLE.


Really... Terrible unbiased but biased article there buddy. I agree with the who's writing your paycheck comment. Have some integrity man. People in this country don't even know what government should look like anymore. Dr. Paul had to school everyone on what the Republicans stood for. Not this career politician pop culture crap. The Constitution people. Dr. Paul is opening the minds of young people and the truth is flowing freely... You sir are a disgrace for passively attacking him...


Paul won the debate. The racist bullcrap is just that a sick and usual politcal attempt to smear him. Blacks who support Paul will tell you how he feels about racism. The rest of the candidates are BROKE. Because Americans will not support their campaigns. Didn't anyone pay attention to the beginning of the debate. The only one blameless that had no fault to find was Paul. We need Integrity, Intelligence, Principal in the Whitehouse. We need to gain the respect of the world again and it won't be from BOMBING them.
RonPaul2008.com and lets take America back


Got off easy? FOX obviously was geared up for a lynching. The questions they asked Paul were attacks. Hannity was rabid. They insinuated that he was not electable, 9/11 truthers, and pointed out that he was the only Republican against the war. None of these questions had anything to do with the issues. Paul had to ask if they could get back to debating the issues.

Paul took all comers and then, according to FOX's own poll, won the debate.

Where were you, really?


Nitpicking about 30-year old newsletters? Now that's desparate, Frankie.

Get back to Paul's real, unwavering charactor, and his resolve to reinstate the US constitution - the heart of the Union. I've made it simple for you:

http://www.geocities.com/johnfkosanke/USConstitutionBasic.html

Pay special attention to Article I Sections 8-10.


There is an obviously concerted effort by the media to smear Ron Paul.

When I watch all the other candidates speak, I see their lips moving, but nothing that comes out of their mouth makes any sense. Ron Paul is the only candidate with any real solutions.


This article makes no sense at all. This reporter needs some therapy. His cognitive/comprehension skills are messed up.


Is he electable? They said Ron Reagan was a kook also, un-electable, to old. It is a shame that Ron Paul is considered a political freak because he defends our Constitution and speaks the truth. It's show the state of affairs within the GOP. How said they have lost their way.

Here is what Matt Towery had to say about Dr. Paul.

"It is my personal belief that if Reagan were alive and living in Iowa today, and he had to choose among the Republican presidential candidates, that he would likely choose the man the GOP establishment and national media have written off -- Congressman Ron Paul."

"As for domestic policy, again Reagan's philosophy seems closer to that of Paul's than any other Republican candidate today. Reagan constantly railed against big government. In speech after speech, he emphasized the need to adhere to the Constitution, and to respect the powers of the individual states. Sound familiar?"

http://www.insideradvantagegeorgia.com/restricted/2007/December%202007/12-27-07/Tower122719632.php


McCain has no clue about economics 101. Did he even graduate from High School?
Yes, I know he was in the military, well so was I, but this man seems very dumb, and is being driven by a "beat them up and bomb mentality", sick I tell you. McCain also seems to project an underlying hatred for all Muslims, and seems to be racist. McCain openly stated in a speech/forum that he will keep our troops in the middle east if it takes 100 years, we the people say no thanks. Hopefully these rich Repubs with the exception of Ron Paul, and maybe Thompson will realize America cannot afford another Bush-like candidate like McCain. I was very excited to see Thompson speak up and state the truth about that hypocrite Huckabee. Ron Paul is the best one suited to run our country, not only for his stance on the war, but for his understanding of economics and knowing what has to be done in order for America to remain a free society. Wake up Repubs, a vote for anyone of these candidates other than Ron Paul, is basically a vote for Hillary.

Over 70% percent of the American people want our troops home now, our country is broke and we will soon be completely owned by China and other countries. We are just about there with 53 Trillion in debt, seriously. The surge is not working, they have not met a single benchmark regarding this surge, research it, and find out for yourselves. McCain is a lying anti-American people, illegal loving swine. The only plus he has is he suffered as a POW, other than that Arizona can't stand the man, ask them. I'm sure this won't get printed here because McCain is what the media is shoving down our throats right now. Ron Paul or Fred Thompson, now those are the true conservatives running.


Christians don't like War, vote Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PqL2hotdbM


The fact that Ron Paul won the text in vote for that debate shows that people like what he was saying.
Another thing people over looked was how Fox tried to keep Paul from talking about the economy, skipping it to get him to talk about the 9/11 conspiricy theorists. We all know he does not believe it and he can't control what his supporters say, but it was good of him to fight to talk abou the economy, because he made some really good points about it.


Before Romney or any other candidate makes a joke about Ron Paul or his positions, they best LISTEN to the American people first!


I think the writer of this article should stop reading so much chinese propaganda and press releases. It seems he supports massive debts to the Chinese in order to fight a country whose threat to us only exists in the major media.


Why isn't McCain under scrutiny for saying himself... not some news article printed with Ron's name, that Ron provided no input for... that he will "never forgive the gooks" for what they did to him? In case you do not know, a gook is a racial epithet, such as the "n word" for black folks. Or how about his charactarization as those who wear burkahs and take one way tickets as terrorist members of Al Qaeda. A lot of Arabs take one way tickets, to flee to America, a more free society...and they are often wearing their burkahs.

What about Romney's support from the FLDS branch of LDS? Or his comment that no Muslim has a place on his team?

You see, this newsletter business is OLD, it has been rehashed, and Ron has been proven to have no culpability over the writings, though he takes the final responsibility because his name is on the newsletters. Somehow these things, which everyone knows about, is brought out in the the day of elections in NH....very politically calculated.


John McCain was racist in the SC debate, read it here:
McCain's racism in SC debate
Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation.


Hey one word.... REVOLUTION! It is time for us to take back our country from the few who thinks its cool to kill around the world in the name of peace.... one word for the media elite... RETARDS. WAKE UP AND SMELL REVOLUTION!!


I live in Myrtle Beach and saw Ron Paul at a steak house talking to supporters. I am a undecided voter but the man did impress me so I watched very closely at the deabates has everyone noticed how the man gets laughed at by the media and the other candidates on the commercial breaks i also noticed how the other candidates would walk toward each other as friends but Paul left over there by himself. The bottom line to Ron Paul he tells the truth he is not part of the establishment and the media and other candidates do not want to hear it. Fox news called him an idiot after the debate but when the polls came in most americans felt like he won the debate what does that tell you. He will never win this election and we all know it but I give the man credit for trying and speaking the truth that no one wants to hear.


I don't understand why it is so hard fot you knuckleheads to understand- RON PAUL -2008


I live in Myrtle Beach and saw Ron Paul at a steak house talking to supporters. I am a undecided voter but the man did impress me so I watched very closely at the deabates has everyone noticed how the man gets laughed at by the media and the other candidates on the commercial breaks i also noticed how the other candidates would walk toward each other as friends but Paul left over there by himself. The bottom line to Ron Paul he tells the truth he is not part of the establishment and the media and other candidates do not want to hear it. Fox news called him an idiot after the debate but when the polls came in most americans felt like he won the debate what does that tell you. He will never win this election and we all know it but I give the man credit for trying and speaking the truth that no one wants to hear.


Let me just start by saying I am not a long time voter. I am just your average Joe with an average income that has finally decided to make a change. In the past I have been simply disgusted by what I have seen of the political state of the US. I have always claimed to be a Republican but never really got involved. This year I will be a first time voter, and I will be supporting Ron Paul. For too many years we have let the government walk all over us. Sadly, Paul’s views are being stolen by the other candidates who do not truly believe in them, just so they can try to win brownie points with voters. When it comes down to it, they are voting for other candidates that have stolen views from Ron Paul. Furthermore, the media as a whole has supported these actions by the other candidates and applauded them, while putting Paul on the backburner. Have we become such zombies that we cannot see this? We watch the networks as they chase Britney Spears around all day, and try to figure out who Anna Nicole Smith’s “baby daddy” is, and then when it comes time to choose a president we dump all of our reasoning down the toilet and trust them. Everyone in this country knows that the media lies, demoralizes, and instigates. We all watch as they sell their souls for personal gain, and ruin lives and families at the flip of a switch. Should we really trust the lives of our children and our country’s future with these people? There are exceptions to this, but very few. about 2 months ago my wife told me about Ron Paul and what he believes and I started my research. What I found was a candidate that cared about families and children, and never took more than he was given. I’ve watched the signs pop up from house to house down my little street in Alabama as people start to hear more and more about Mr. Paul. Unfortunately, people pay so much attention to these earlier primaries in the northern (liberal) states. Don’t get me wrong, by no means am I exempt from that label as I was born in St. Louis, MO , and have lived in every part of the country. I think as we start to see results south of Virginia and the Great Lakes states, we will start to see a different outlook for Ron Paul’s campaign. People call this the “Bible Belt”, and rightly so. The South is much more conservative than the North, and picks candidates with it’s similar views and plans in mind. I strongly urge Ron Paul to stand by his campaign, and continue on. If his followers were to run another strong day of donations online, I would definitely make my first donation to anything having to do with politics. To the people reading this throughout the country, I would ask that you take a step back. Look at what you see on the whole in television, and go back about 50 years to see where our country has gone. With choices come consequences. Do you want to look back in 30 years and regret where our government has taken us as we are already starting to do? Do you want to watch the world from your living room and wish you could go places outside our country without the threat of being blown up? I myself am not ready to risk the future of my 3 year old son to do so. Ron Paul is at the front of a revolution and there is no stopping what has already begun. Change has to come at some point or we will be living in a socialist nation clouded by the veil of democracy. Unfortunately, we are very close to that already. I’m ready to make a difference and take my country back. I’m voting for Ron Paul (winner of the South Carolina debate), whether he runs Republican or Libertarian.


Ron Paul could use a little polish-very rough at times.
He has a great grasp of the constitutional principles. The parts where he is strongly opinionated-Seems to say we asked for 9-11- can be a problem. None of his problems are any worse than the serious flaws of each of the other contenders. He is stiffly constitutional, congress will still have a great say in whatever he tries to propose as a president. I truly hope he will be more electable as time goes on. I can get used to very plain and blunt statements about what a leader believes. Mr. Ron comes across as argumentative, but very honest.


Ron Paul could use a little polish? Very astute, he also could use some handlers. speech writers, spin doctors, packaging and focus groups. What doesn't the public understand about the insidiously corrupt process of electing political candidates. Dr. Paul speaks from his gut and from his OWN intellect. Not always polished, but always thought provoking and genuine. Show us a CLIP of Dr Paul making a damning remark in18 years of public speaking or a breach of public trust relative to his record. A ghost-written newsletter from a decade ago didn't keep him from being re-elected to congress, but maybe you are suggesting everyone from Texas is a racist?


I have heard so many people in support of Ron Paul that I can honestly not believe that the votes in New Hampshire and Iowa are accurate. Ron Paul is a real person. I believe he is truly for everyone in all walks of life and all nationalities. His application of the golden rule to the Middle East when all of the other candidates are talking attack and kill proves it. And he doesn't have a trail of bodies behind him like Clinton or the support of Bush like McCain. Anyone who truly wants what is best for the United States and not some Global machine will take careful consideration in voting this year and pay close attention that vote fraud is kept out.


I was in shock at the treatment Ron Paul received during the debate the other night. Regardless of what the other candidates might think about what he says, he deserves respect. I can only imagine these bafoons sitting across the table from other World leaders laughing at their ideas and dismissing them as if they had all of the answers to the problems of the world. As with everything, money is the bottom line. The Iraq war is making some people in this country very rich. Why not invade Iran? They should draft all of the family members of Halliburton, Boeing, and all of the other contractors in Iraq to fight these wars that they are profiting from. The direction our country has taken disgusts me.


This is shody & below-the-belt journalism at its worst. Its funny how you're ganging up on the most honest and respectable candidate in these elections: Ron Paul. He is the sincerest and most worthy of them all! Go Ron Paul!! (Go Wolverines!!)


SOME SAY RON PAUL IS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. HE IS IN GOOD COMPANY. THE APOSTLE PAUL WAS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. BUT HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. HE WROTE THE MAJORITY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. A CERTAIN MAN NAMED MOSES WAS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER. BUT GOD 'JUST' USED HIM TO PART THE RED SEA AND LEAD A CAPTIVE PEOPLE TO FREEDOM. IF PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO WHAT IS BEING SAID AND NOT BE FOOLED BY ORATORY SKILLS THEY WILL FIND DR. PAUL TO BE THE MOST SANE VOICE AMONG THE CANDIDATES. ON THE BASIS OF KNOWLEDGE OF WORLD HISTORY, THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, ECONOMICS,FOREIGN POLICY,ETHICS,NONE OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES COME CLOSE TO RON PAUL. JUST CHECK OUT HIS VOTING RECORD.


The reason why no candidate asked Ron Paul about any letters, was because the candidates know the character of Ron Paul - and they knew that it would be totally out of line to accuse such a candidate of any slandery.


I guess with the amazing list of flames you got for that drivel you don't need yet another one. My stance that the Dr. is prescribing the right medication for Americas cancer is only affirmated by viewing the replies to your opinion-piece.


I believe that Dr. Paul correctly deserves criticism for his negligence in allowing such ugly statements be published in his name.

However, it appears to me that Dr. Paul's opponents are advancing the proposition that Ron Paul's impeccable record of defending civil liberties for all individuals during his ten terms in congress should be ignored in light of these statements. I personally find a sick irony in this proposition, for it means we should ignore his real record in office over 20 years in favor of (abhorrent as it is) mere rhetoric.

Even if one believes that these ugly statements were in fact Ron Paul's views (which I do not), the fact is that his legislative record is the very antithesis of a racist or bigoted agenda; Dr. Paul bases his entire political world view and subsequent political positions on the overtly *anti-racist* premise of individual rights for everyone without regard to race, gender, or ethnicity.

I challenge you to examine Ron Paul's record in Congress, including all of his votes and entries into the congressional record & congressional speeches.

In addition, I challenge you to examine the hundreds of hours Ron Paul campaign speeches online of
Ron Paul speaking on the campaign trail.

Can you point to any instance in which Ron Paul advances a political position not grounded in the concept of individual rights regardless of race, gender, or ethnic background?

If you look hard enough, you will find that Dr. Paul frames civil liberty issues as individual rights and never as rights obtained by virtue of group identity.

On a personal note: I've attended meetup group activities, and I've attended a Ron Paul campaign event in South Carolina, that was approximately 1,000 people, there was not even a hint of racism from either Dr. Paul nor the
audience during the entire event.


FOX would have asked Dr. Paul about the newsletters if FOX believed that to do so would damage Dr. Paul's candidacy. FOX fears and hence constantly sabotages Dr. Paul because FOX sees him persuading Americans that the Iraq war and the impending Iran war are bad for America. War is FOX's gravy train. Less war would cost FOX viewers.
Paul would have slammed a question about the newsletters over the fence because his whole life's work has been anti- racist.


Ron Paul dominated the debate. He had 700% more votes than Guiliani and triumphed with the drums of Freedom and Liberty pounding to his every marching foot step. Vote Ron Paul or else you hate freedom. Vote for Ron Paul and celebrate the rebirth of Freedom.


I tend to believe a man that brings up the constitution in almost every debate. Whn I can find any coverage of the debates that include DR.Paul.
Im not sure why oprah hasnt had him on or TRL or any other bunk pop media. Really i have to dig for coverage on any candidate other than Clinton or Obama.
It makes me tired that the amount of B.S. and fodderare prevelant in all media.
TV, Newspaper...nothing.
I thought that Jerry Brown in the Late 80s had a brilliant tax plan that made things livable and equal...
no coverage.
Nader had some good ideas and plenty of debate potential ..but rules were altered ad or unfairly applied and he was never let into the debates..no coverage..
Its frustrating...
I hate feeling pesimistic..if ait aint about Britney spears shaving her head its about 2 of how many candidates?
ah well
i think ill throw away my television.


i love this country but not enough to be bankrupt with it. vote ron paul.


SMEAR SMEAR SMEAR! Tell those poor former middle class families in California living in tent cities Ron Paul is wrong. GO RON PAUL!!!


They didn't ask Ron Paul about the newsletters, probably because they know it's a false allegation. This smear-piece has been "investigated" before, and shown to be false. Ron Paul did not write the articles. A staffer did who was later fired. Ghostwriters for congresspeople was and still is wildly common.

Also, you try to link up Jamie Kirchick's article, THAT HE HIMSELF ADMITTED HE FAKED TO GET A REACTION OUT OF RON PAUL SUPPORTERS!! Hello? That fact was exposed on a "gays for Ron Paul" website. Shame on you for doing such a terrible job on this article.


Finally, a candidate who has a job other than being a professional politician.
Ron Paul knows more about making our country the strong financial giant it should be than anyone else running. We all need to take a strong look at Ron Paul before we dismiss him.


The racist tactic is all the media can come with to try and discredit Ron Paul. This is a story that was debunked years ago and bringing it up would have given RP the chance to bury it once and for all and show how more minorities support him more than any other Republican candidate. I think the electability question was the best one that Dr. Paul responded to.
FOX is just a bunch of FOXholes working with the Rockefeller Establishment to ensure a victory for their CFR groomed candidates McCain, Romney, Guiliani, Thompson, and Huckabee. Here's a great quote from David Rockefeller regarding the media: David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, had this to say at a Bilderberg Meeting in 1991: "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications, whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
Here's another one:
In his book Memoirs, published in 2002, David Rockefeller, Sr. "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

The Ron Paul REVOLUTION is is not just about an election, it's about building an army of patriots to defend our freedom and liberty.


Nice propaganda piece Frank James and The Baltimore Sun! Who needs a "Swift Boat" with journalists like this doing all the heavy lifting?


I ask everyone to look at this link and see for yourself ... which ones have voted to uphold the constitution? how many voted to crush the 1st, 5th, 8th, and 14th amendments!? and thats just at first glance! ie.. HR 6166, the tyranny act ( crushes the 5th), patriot act ( crushes the 4th), HR 952, Extraordinary Rendition, ( the 8th). Imperialism thru subterfuge is their plan and these so-called "representatives are the ones that are allowing it to happen, they voted on it and made it so. Ron Paul is the only choice!


I ask everyone to look at this link and see for yourself ... which ones have voted to uphold the constitution? how many voted to crush the 1st, 5th, 8th, and 14th amendments!? and thats just at first glance! ie.. HR 6166, the tyranny act ( crushes the 5th), patriot act ( crushes the 4th), HR 952, Extraordinary Rendition, ( the 8th). Imperialism thru subterfuge is their plan and these so-called "representatives are the ones that are allowing it to happen, they voted on it and made it so. Ron Paul is the only choice!

http://www.progressivepatriots.com/senate/senateoathindex110.html


Ron Paul, is the only republican candidate worth voting for. I am so disgusted with the Republican party. I am a dyed-in-the-wool Republican and the most fiscal man on the platform gets ostracised? Please! This country is about to go bankrupt - the Chinese and Arabs are bailing out our biggest banks which will indirectly give them control over our politicians in Washington. We wont have to go to war with the Chinese - they will already own us. When are we going to wake up. Probably when its too late. We have to stop the bleeding of money. None of these promises are going to matter because we wont have any money left. Expanding the war in Iraq/Iran will only worsen the issue. Any American that believes different (including yourself Frank) had better look at the United States balance sheet. We are in a bad way financially and America will be a shell of itself in 25 years. Wise up.


Elections are a farce as long as we have electronic voting machines. Clinton did great in areas with the electronic machines, and horribly where the ballots were paper.

JOB 1 should be eliminating black box voting.


Some of you will continue to enjoy being spoon-fed the media and party-line bunk against Ron Paul; but the rest of us will have to be happy actually doing our RESEARCH and making INFORMED decisions. After all, it's JUST the very important act of VOTING. And besides, the uninformed ignorance of your attacks betrays you.

I challenge everyone here to make an INFORMED VOTE.

Several points of clarification: 1) Regarding foreign policy, isolationism does not equal non-intervention. Ron Paul is for the latter. 2) Regarding the "racist newsletters", Ron Paul has openly addressed them and taken "moral responsibility" for them. 3) Abandon the misguided idea that Paul is (or supports) neo-nazis, the KKK, or 9/11 conspiracy truthers. It's all been addressed and de-bunked. 4) Give up the politics of fear-mongering and bullyism that say a vote for Ron Paul is wasted. Heaven forbid we treat elections as something more important than a beauty or popularity contest!

To the pessimists: Try to have an intelligent and original thought. Then make your choice. I will RESPECT that, even if the hypno-name-callers won't return the favor.


Don't be insulting Ron Paul, and he's just running as a Republican because that's the only way he has a chance.
He's more of a Libertarian.

Too bad more people don't hear enough about him

Ronpaul08!


Once again, not one of the Republic Party hacks mentioned Dubya or praised his policies during the debate.

Dubya is so radioactive that his own party's members don't talk about him anymore.


RON PAUL ALWAYS SAYS SOMETHING TRUTHFUL WHEN HE SPEAKS. I LIKE HIM AND WILL VOTE FOR HIM NO MATTER WHAT THE MEDIA OR ANYONE ELSE HAS TO SAY ABOUT HIM. SOMEBODY OUT THERE IS AFRAID OF WHAT THIS MAN IS SAYING AND WANTS HIM OUT OF THE RUNNING.


This article is absolutely misleading. I watched that entire debate. Yes, the candidates were disrespectful of Ron Paul, laughing and issuing ridiculous one-liners. The fact is, they are all scared shitless-- and they should be. Because treason is a crime punishable by hanging.

McCain got laughed at as well, he wants to commit America's great-great- grandchildren to Iraq, and Ron Paul stood up and indicated quite firmly he is the only conservative running. Your news reporting sucks.


your bias is appalling.


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