Clyburn keeps heat on Clintons

Why did Sen. H.R. Clinton won in New Hampshire

During the Clinton Administration an illegal process call “Philip Curve” (an illegal economical device/maneuver/leverage) was used to declare WAR on MIDDLE CLASS CITIZENS, which the Bush Administration adapted and did not correct Clinton’s “interpretations” of the Law rather than the definition.

Voting for CHANGE will legalized this process and exonerate/unburden liabilities and responsibilities from Government Officials who tolerated this illegal process and who turned a blind eye to injustice, by destroying middle class America.

1. The Older Age Group, generation, is now involved voters- when they were Middle Class going through the process of hardship, to eliminate Middle Class America, they did not voted. They voted NOW because their dependency is on Social Security, Medicare…etc. this is their only way for them to be living (on a fixed income). Whereas, when they were the Middle Class they were “STRONG and VIABLE” to sustain the hardship, but now that they are old they cannot. So they have to vote in order to keep receiving their fixed income. Which they were forced against their will to accept because they were afraid to speak out that the process of hardship is forcing them to be undocumented citizens and poor person status.
2. The ones that are now loosing their homes and face with economical downfall is now the defunct class of citizens. This is a process of 10 years or more where relief is only in the OLD AGE bracket. A pre-mediated economical injustice and cruel & unusual punishment by Governmental Officials. All for the gluttons who seek to have control and power. The Relief for the illegal use of Philip Curve will come about by NON-Citizens over populating, with off springs, CHANGE the economic class where they are the majority and candidates who are running for Political Office will then do anything to get their votes.
3. Sen. H. R. Clinton is baiting the Undocumented Citizens; poor person (once the Middle Class Citizens) on ‘CHANGING” them back into Middle Class America with false sense of hope to force them into electing her. The Clinton’s Administration started the regime to end the Middle Class by allowing NON-Citizens the opportunity at “cultural diversity/diversify. Sen. H. Clinton will soon switch her stands – her “interpretations” of Middle Class is NON-CITIZEN.
4. Sen. H. Clinton had an influx of voters perhaps; NON-CITIZENS who were push through the process and system, to become citizens faster, to continue her husband’s plague upon the Middle Class; now the undocumented citizens and poor persons, by bringing hardship/difficulties and constant fear. Allowing NON-CITIZENS to become CITIZENS without having any “stringent guidelines” applying to non-citizens. A process for the Democrats/Republicans to be elected into office. Where is the equality?????? WHY VOTE FOR THIS TYPE OF CHANGE????Ms. c. Jugmohan

The Democrats and The Republicans are running for “CHANGE”!!!

What is this thing call “Change”? What will it change; from and to what: Democracy to “Cultural Diversity and Diversify???

Under “Cultural Diversity” a woman’s right to Vote, Marry, have Children, be employed, earn an income, own a home, voice opinions, communicate…etc. are all Defunct.

A woman must first “gain/ask for permission” to be afford such rights. But, gaining permission comes with a process call “stringent guidelines” which is undisclosed and unpublished. This then makes a woman’s choice for freedom, under Cultural Diversity”, null.

The question is: how is it that Sen. H. R. Clinton’s freedom for Democracy has not changed to “Cultural Diversity/Diversify” under “CHANGE” and what “Stringent Guidelines” does she have that is undisclosed to afford her the Rights to seek higher Political Office and expand her Career Goals and endeavors???

In addition, the voters who voted for her, why are they not “Cultural Diversify”???? Besides, for the record, Sen. H. R. Clinton has no “track experiences” in politics; her only political office is having the position of Senator of New York, which she bullied her way into. She is demonstrating her position for change by being derelict in her responsibilities to her job position and requirements. She is unfocused as to her responsibilities to New York State.

Further, it was not Sen. H. R. Clinton’s place/job to change The Health Care System when her husband (ex-President Clinton) was in Office. She had no political position at that time, only being a wife to a president of the United States. She was confused then as to her job/position/title and she is more confused as to her job title/responsibilities/ position/functions to New York State now.

When Ex-President Bill Clinton took the platform in New Hampshire, he spoke as a person who has qualifications and experiences for what the Job will require. As an expert in Politics and the Oval Office, he denounced all male from the position; he denounced all Democrat Candidates from the position, he called for “CHANGE”.

Well, to analyze this: He wants a Republican, a Woman, and change from a white person to a minority. This would be the Ultimate Change... Who will fit this type of CHANGE he is calling for? Ms. C. Jugmohan

Even the Libs at politico.com are headlining "Racial Tensions Roil Democratic Race". See http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html

"...that appeared to dismiss, respectively, the importance of Martin Luther King Jr.'s contributions to the passage of civil rights legislation and Sen. Barack Obama's candidacy."
Dangerous territory, Swamp. Are you sure you want to go there?

As an African-American, I'm more offended that now the media and Obama campaign have decided it's time to play the race card so cynically. Talk about negative campaigning.

Forgetting for the moment that nowhere in the statement above is ANY candidate's name mentioned, much less Hillary's, Hillary's observation that a strong leader in the Whitehouse was needed to push Civil Rights legislation through Congress in no way diminishes Dr. King's efforts. Furthermore, Bill Clinton's asserting that the media continues to enthusiastically enable this Obama "fairytale" that he is an "agent of change" when he isn't anything other than an inexperienced political opportunist is a totally valid observation.

But we now have the media and Obama's campaign invoking the racial narrative of "the Clintons disrespected Dr. King by pointing out Johnson's contribution to the movement, and the Clintons have dismissed the possibility of a black man running for president, labelling it a fairytale."

Obama will likely win South Carolina as a result. But his "I can bring people together rhetoric" will ring hollow and marginalize his victory's importance.

Maya Angelou, John Lewis, Andrew Young, Vernon Jordan. All are Hillary supporters. I don't think they take their support of her lightly vis a vis a charismatic, young, gifted and black Obama. Yet they support Hillary Clinton. I don't think these pioneers, some of whom marched side-by-side with Dr. King, would back racists -- and certainly not so given the challenger. This speaks volumes about where they believe the Clintons' hearts really are.

RNC Gadfly Bruce,

Who is your presidential candidate?

Clyburn should ease up...it will only hurt Obama in the long run.

Obamba plays the race card!! What a suprise!

Obamba has now set off a race riot in the Democratic party. How surprising coming into South Carolina. They have even dragged James Clyburn into the frey after he said he wouldn't. You can bet your bottom dollar after SC he will try to make nice nice saying it never happened. Bring it on! The Republicans will have a field day. Calling the Clintons RACIEST PLEASE!!!!!! Anything to take attention away from the fact he has nothing concrete to talk about.This guy is UNBELIEVABLE. That will be seen by all Americans if he gets the Democratic nomination and there will be a Republican in office next year.
I would have expected this from (he who loves his own voice DYSON) but Donna Brazil on CNN yesterday and now Clyburn in today's New York Times. As the story reports Clyburn said he would stay out of it to promote economic support for his state and promote tourism. Well we will watch the element of racism enter into his tourist state. What a legacy what a way to join us together Mr. Obama.

Once again Chris Matthews selectively edits Clintons remarks to belittle the Clintons. Chris picked the "fairy tale " Remark and showed only the tail. at least Keith Obherman had the sense to show what Bill Clinton was saying. Criticising Obambas voting record not his whole DREAM CANDIDACY. Chris Matthews is doing himself and his profession a grave injustice. Fox News we all know is a joke now so is Hardball. I was a loyal viewer of his show . I now feel duped I wounder what else I fell for and didn't know all the facts but took his word for it . Damn, it makes me feel like a rube.

No, the Clintons have been playing the race card, again and again and again. The Obama campaign has been ignoring the baits, with a lot of class, but at a certain point they have to stand up and say something. Otherwise the Clintons will keep going.

Neither of the Clintons care about the voters. It's all about me,me, me.

Good for Rep. Clyburn. Don't give an inch. Hillary in the last debate tried to score points against Obama when she said something about you just can't say words, they mean nothing, you need action. And Obama shot back with words do mean something, Hillary, they mean a lot, or something like that. Now, we are all seeing that yes, words to mean something, they mean a lot, as Rep. Clyburn himself warns for the candidates to be sensitive about the 'words' they use. For someone who wants to be president of the United States of America I refuse to understand how Hillary Clinton devalues the power of words, that she thinks them insignificant. But that just bespeaks her inexperience, just like her not reading the intelligence reports before she voted to invade Iraq. But since she and Bill Clinton have been reckless about their words since running against Obama, I guess one never knows what true colors may come out when your back is really up against the wall.

Has anyone ever seen a former President act the way that Bill acts? He is supposed to be a Dem backer. I understand that his wife is running, but his speech in N.H. showed me that the Clinton camp in general is so hungry to be back in the White House. This country needs someone besides a Bush or a Clinton in charge. I don't know if Obama is the right person, but if saying "I'm a blue duck" would attract enough voters, Hillary would claim it.

I've posted it before, and I'll post again. If Hillary wins, I will vote for whoever runs against her....and I know that I'm not alone.

If the Clintons care as much for black pride in the same measure they want blacks to care for them, they would get out of the way and support the black candidate with the best chance in history to become president. Sadly, we know the truth. The Clintons care only for themselves, just as always.

Looks like Massa Clinton is upset dat Obama done forgot his place on the Clinton plantation!
How dare that disbarred punk ex president cast s heavy hand at Sen. Obama. Who made Clinton a kingmaker?

Whether Obama has the “experience” to be the Commander In Chief of the U.S.A.

By: Robyn, J.D.

How many African-Americans have “played by the rules” in order to achieve their dreams and make a better
life for themselves, only to be told that they lacked
the experience to do the job? MANY. Let me define
“played by the rules”: go to school, stay active in
the community, go to college, get an advanced degree,
vote, get a “good job” and dream big because your
ancestors paid a price for your freedom. Actually,
there are many minorities and immigrants who can
relate to "playing by the rules" to ensure a good
life.

Those groups who have “played by the rules” are all
too familiar with walking into a job interview, being
qualified, ready to do the job, ready to offer great
ideas and work hard, but then are told they “lack the
requisite experience.” When many times, they will
NEVER be able to fulfill that requisite experience or
if they can, it is only after doing additional work or
obtaining additional qualifications that were not
always expected of other potential employees.

When I look at Senator Obama’s diverse life journey,
in addition to his education, work experience and
natural gifts, it amazes me how his ability to be the
President and his “experience” is called into
question, especially by other African-Americans and
other minorities.

Remember that the playing field has not always (and
still is not) equal for us and many American citizens.

It starts with the unequal distribution of wealth and
educational funding, spills over into the idea of
standardized testing as a highly determinative factor
of our ability to achieve. It continues with the lack
of recruitment of African-Americans [and other
minorities and immigrants] as students and professors
in higher education, our absence in the country clubs
and corporate boardrooms, as well as the lack of
African-American [and other minorities and
ethnicities] judges on the bench, as well as
professional mentors.

More importantly, there have only been a handful of
African-American governors, U.S. senators and
presidents in our country’s history, therefore,
this“requisite experience” argument cannot be given
that much power or credence in this presidential race.

There are people who need the OPPORTUNITY to do a job.
Just because they do not have the “experience” does
not mean they cannot do it well. Many times that
“requisite experience” was crafted to keep certain
groups out.

This is something that has been experienced by people
of all races, ethnicities, immigrants, working class,
middle class and the poor. Presently, college and
graduate students are experiencing first hand this
“requisite experience” excuse, as they struggle to
find a decent job in a dwindling domestic economy.

Senator Obama “played by the rules” when he succeeded
against the odds. He graduated from Harvard Law, was
the first African-American president of Harvard’s Law
Review, worked on Wall Street, was employed by a major
law firm, worked in the community as a civil rights
lawyer, served as an IL state representative, was
elected to the U.S. senate (only the 3rd
African-American in history), worked in a bi-partisan
manner with a divided Congress, has international
appeal and has rejuvenated people’s interest in
politics.

But, that experience is STILL not quite good enough to
be a president? Well, what do we say about those
presidents who had the "proper requisite experience"
who have done little for the people of American and
the world?

I am sure people have tried to tell Obama that he does
not have requisite or traditional experience in the
past. But, he prevailed and proved them wrong, just
like many African-Americans and other Americans will
continue to do.

This time Senator Obama will show that he IS
experienced and will do the job well as the next
President of the USA.

Robyn, J.D.
Colombia, SC

Judge Him On His Record:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html

January 13, 2008

Movie “The Great Debate” on Clinton and Obama’s “Turn.”

By: Sarah from Texas

Tonight, my family and I saw the movie, “The Great Debate” produced by Oprah Winfrey, directed by Denzel Washington and also starring himself and another Oscar winner, Forrest Whittiker. It is one of the best movies I have ever seen in a long time. The movie is about an African-American college debate team during the Reconstruction era. It is a true story based on a college in Texas. The timing of the movie is in sync with the grassroots movement that is happening around the country in regards to the Obama campaign.

I will not give the movie’s plot away, I promise. But, during the beginning of the movie, the black girl’s character debates a white student for the first time about whether whites should be forced to integrate with colored students at a state college. The white student argues that one day, there WILL come a time when blacks and whites would share a classroom. But, whites should not be forced to do it now—because it is “not the right time.” The black girl argues that the time is NOW. Her partner argued that if [black folks] waited on whites to decide to end segregation, they would still be enslaved.

Fast forward to Friday, Jan. 11, 2008 when Pres. Bill Clinton was a guest on the Rev. Al Sharpton’s talk radio show. When asked why Sen. Clinton should be elected instead of Obama, Pres. Bill Clinton names his reasons then ended with, “Obama will have his turn. He has plenty of time….” (or something to that effect). Why should Obama believe that Clinton (or anyone else) is somehow more entitled than him to run for President THIS year. Obama does not have to “wait for his turn” to run.

Hillary said in New Hampshire that running for president is “not a game.” Well, it sure sounds like a game to the Clintons. Running for president is not a game of monopoly. For example, “Obama, pass GO, collect your $200 and go to Park Pl. or Boardwalk, take your pick. But, when it is YOUR turn (or time) to roll the dice again, THEN you can run for President.” Mr. Clinton alluded to Obama’s presidential campaign as a “fairy tale.” Well, where was this fairy tale talk when Mr. Clinton embraced this idea that he was somehow the “first black president.”

If the Clintons were so inclusive, supportive and accepting of African-American issues, then THEY should have been priming and urging Obama to run back in 2000, 2004 or 2008.

But, just like the character in the movie, President Clinton in so many words suggested that Obama be patient, be quiet, sit down and wait for his turn.

Sarah Marie, TX

TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT FOR ALL THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS ON HERE BLACK OR WHITE, OBAMA HAS NOT BEEN COMMENTING ON THE CLINTON'S STUPID, INSANE REMARKS. THE REMARKS FROM BILL AND HILLARY WERE GIVEN DURING A TIME OF GREAT DESPERATION.WHEN IT BECAME APPARENT THAT SHE WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY BE CROWNED QUEEN WITHOUT HAVING TO EARN IT. WHICH SHOWS THAT THEY (CLINTONS) WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE. EVEN DIVIDE AMERICANS! IT HAS BEEN OTHERS THAT ARE NOT AT ALL RELATED TO HIS(BARACK'S) CAMPAIGN.. SO PLEASE WHEN YOU PEOPLE TRY TO RACE BAIT TO PUSH YOUR CANDIDATE, HAVE THE FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE BASHING THIS MAN. IM A REPUBLICAN THAT WILL BE SUPPORTING BARACK SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE TO RISE ABOVE ALL THESE ANIMALISTIC BEHAVIORS, PETTY PREJUDICES, AND CLASS DIVISIONS THAT KEEP THIS COUNTRY FROM TRUELLY SOLVING THE MANY PROBLEMS WE ARE FACING IN THIS 21ST CENTURY!

Clintons have been playing the race card since Hillary
converted from 'GOLDWATER GIRL' to 'DEMOCRATIC GIRL'.
The best way to summarize this latest insult of Senator Obama and Dr.MLK
is to remember the famous
Quote of Dale Carnegie " Two men looked through prison bars, one (Clitnon) saw the mud other(Obama) saw the STARS".

There was no distortion needed to expose the disrespectful nature of Hillary Clinton's Martin Luther King remark. The Clinton War Machine is clearly showing signs of fatigue. This is a plus for those that think presidential term limits were put in place for a good reason.

This is not good at all. This has been totally blown out of proportion. More than half of these idiots complaining calling the Clintons racists are republicans who could care less about the truth and more about keeping the power. I have been leaning towards Obama, but I will change that in a heartbeat if his campaign and his friends wish to make this some race card play.

As an African American I was very disappointed and bothered by both Bill's and Hillary's comments. I'm equally disturbed by accusations from the Hillary camp that Obama and his staff are to blame for the negative reaction of African Americans to their chosen WORDS. Obama is not responsible for how I respond to what the Clintons said. Do they not think that African Americans are capable of thinking for themselves? They are responsible for the words that come out of their mouths and they should give careful thought and consideration to what they say. I've always admired and respected Bill Clinton, but I'm starting to feel that for both Bill and Hillary, this election is not about uniting and moving Americans forward. But rather it is about winning at all cost. I've always referred to myself as African American, but for the first time in my 54 years of life, I am proud to just consider myself American. The reason for this is Obama. Americans have been divided for too long. We all should be sick and tired of the old divide and conquer strategy that's typical of Washington politics. The average American is hurting and it is time for healing.

Obama is allowing the race card to be pulled. He figures as long as he isn't the one doing it, he can walk on water. He's wrong. It's stupid to vote for him just because he's black. The fact is, he's not qualified to be President, yet. Ripping off MLK speeches won't make him a better President. If anything, I find it a real insult that he's knocking of MLK. Dr. King bled for what he believed in. Obama has never walked that path, not even close. He doesn't deserve to use King's work to benefit his political race. He hasn't earned that right, in my opinion.

I wonder if Congressman Clyburn will change his mind and endorse Obama when he hears the latest blatent racial slur: in the Guardian, a Clinton advisor is quoted as saying "If you have a social need, you're with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool." The quote above shows that this is not a one off, it is a campaign strategy. In one fell swoop, this advisor insulted blacks, whites with black friends, young people of any color, people with no social needs, people with social needs who support Obama.......how disgusting!! Please Mr. Clyburn, endorse Obama- show the Clintons their strategies will backfire.

As an African American I was very disappointed and bothered by both Bill's and Hillary's comments.
Posted by: Carolyn | January 12, 2008 11:59 PM

Oh please....This is pure spin and most people feel that way. Is this the unity that Obama talks about? Is this how we bring people together? I do lean towards Obama, but this from Clyburn is just plain spin. If this is helping America....I surley miss how.

I wonder if Congressman Clyburn will change his mind and endorse Obama when he hears the latest blatent racial slur:
Posted by: katharine | January 13, 2008 8:48 AM

Thats right. The Clintons are such racists. You're an idiot if you believe this. Keep playing the race card katharine....you're losing my support minute by minute. If we are going to play this game...please advise Obama not to say "anything" about crackers....even in passing. OK?

Oh please....This is pure spin and most people feel that way. Is this the unity that Obama talks about? Is this how we bring people together? I do lean towards Obama, but this from Clyburn is just plain spin. If this is helping America....I surley miss how.

Posted by: bill r. | January 13, 2008 10:04 AM

mmm who should I believe, the Clintons spin or my lying ears