Huckabee arrives in SC

Maybe the good people of S. Carolina would like to know a few "fun" facts about the good " Huck".
He is an ordained Evangelical preacher.

He was a former understudy of Texas televangelist James Robison.

Huckabee has credited divine intervention with some of his political success.

He believes in biblical inerrancy, which says that the Bible is totally without error and completely accurate, including the historical and scientific parts.

He believes our 4.5 billion-year-old Earth is only 6000 years old.

He said that humans did not evolve from “primates” (apparently forgetting that human beings are primates).

He proudly stated that if he I becomes president, science will take a back seat to religion. “Science changes with every generation and God doesn’t. So I’ll stick with God if the two are in conflict,” he said.

As governor of Arkansas he rejected the teaching of evolution in schools, resulting in that state receiving an F for its science standards from an independent nationwide survey.

In 2001 Huckabee urged student districts to allow students to pray and proclaimed October as "Student Religious Liberty Month.”

He opposes the separation of church our founding fathers established. He said, “When people say we ought to separate politics from religion, I say to separate the two is absolutely impossible.”

He believes that Armageddon is right around the corner, and that all non-Christians are eternally damned.

Huckabee said that "homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."

He opposes civil unions and same-sex marriage. He said he would oppose gay marriage until “Moses comes down with two stone tablets from Brokeback Mountain saying he’s changed the rules.” He also said, "There’s never been a civilization that has rewritten what marriage and family means and survived.”

In 2002, Huckabee ran for Governor and his wife Janet ran for Arkansas Secretary of State. The New York Times reported this set off an "avalanche of criticism." Mike Huckabee won his race with 53 percent of the vote, while his wife Janet lost her race by 62% to 38%.

Shortly before announcing his candidacy for the President of the United States, Huckabee ordered that the drives of 83 computers and 4 servers be destroyed during his transition phase in leaving office. Documents, e-mails and memos stored on hard drives formed the basis of embarrassing stories about Huckabee, including the allegations regarding personal use of the Governor's Mansion funds

In 1992, when it was clear that HIV/AIDS was not spread by casual contact, Huckabee advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general population.

He said that a “holocaust of abortions” has artificially created a demand for Mexican labor in the U.S.

As governor of Arkansas he increased state spending 65.3 percent (1996–2004) and supported five tax increases (increasing taxes more than $500 million). He used a taxpayer fund for personal expenses like dog food, pantyhose, and Taco Bell meals, and used inaugural funds to pay for his wife’s clothes.

In November 2006, both Huckabee and his wife drew criticism for creating wedding registries in the amount of over $6000 at both the Target and Dillard's web sites, in conjunction with a housewarming party to celebrate a new house they had purchased in Little Rock.

Arkansas-based Wal-Mart is his biggest campaign donor.

Huckabee supports the ongoing War in Iraq and the troop surge.

He said, “One thing I salute about the president is No Child Left Behind, and no matter what you've heard about it let me tell you it's the best thing that ever happened in education.”

As governor of Arkansas he blocked Medicaid from funding an abortion for a mentally retarded teenager raped by her stepfather (his actions violated federal law which requires states to pay for abortions in cases of rape).

His son was fired as a counselor at a Boy Scout camp for allegedly hanging a stray dog and Huckabee was criticized for covering up the incident. "Without question, [Huckabee] was making a conscious attempt to keep the state police from investigating his son," says I. C. Smith, the former FBI chief in Little Rock,

As governor he was criticized for his handling of the case of Wayne DuMond, a convicted rapist who was released during Huckabee's governorship and who subsequently sexually assaulted and murdered a woman in Missouri.

In December 2007, he used the death of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto as an opportunity to lecture on his illegal immigration policy proclaiming that Pakistan has more illegal immigrants to the United States than any country but Mexico ( INS data indicates that Pakistan is nowhere near the top of the list). Many were puzzled at the connection between the death of the late prime minister and Huckabee’s immigration policy.

In 2006 he pardoned Rolling Stones guitarist Keith Richards from a reckless driving conviction that happened in Arkansas in 1975.

On December 26, 2007 the conservative organization Judicial Watch announced that Mike Huckabee was named to its list of Washington’s "Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians" for 2007. They state that Huckabee, as governor, was the subject of "14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office." Judicial Watch further accused Huckabee of attempting to block the state ethics commission's investigations of the allegations.

He has lost 100 pounds. He compared his weight loss to the experience of a concentration camp, for which the National Jewish Democratic Council chastised Huckabee.

He plays bass in the rock band Capitol Offense.

From Earlier comment -"He said that humans did not evolve from “primates” (apparently forgetting that human beings are primates)."

Hey friend, if you want to believe that you came from a rock that is your option (that is what the theory of evolution claims). Some of us believe God created us.

FACT: The ethics commission fined Huckabee $1,000 for failing to report that he paid himself $14,000 from his 1992 U.S. Senate campaign and $43,000 from his 1994 lieutenant governor's campaign. (Source: POLITICO, Huckabee rivals unearth ethics complaints Kenneth P. Vogel Nov 21, 2007)

FACT: Huckabee accepted more than 300 gifts worth at least $130,000, ranging from $3,700 cowboy boots to a $600 chainsaw. (Source: POLITICO, Huckabee rivals unearth ethics complaints Kenneth P. Vogel Nov 21, 2007)

FACT: Mike Huckabee joined Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in declaring his opposition to the interrogation procedure known as "waterboarding," and said he would support closing the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and moving the Guantanamo prisoners to the military's only maximum-security prison, Fort Leavenworth in Kansas. This move would grant habeas corpus rights to "enemy combatants." (Source: Washington Post, Huckabee Chafes at 'Front-Runner' Label, Perry Bacon Jr. 12/4/07)

FACT: Mike Huckabee granted 1,033 pardons and commutations, including 12 convicted murderers, one of which "Wayne DuMond" shortly after his release moved to Missouri where he raped and murdered Carol Sue Shields. He was convicted and sentenced to life in prison in Clay County, Mo., in 2003. He died in prison in 2005. (Source: The Leader, Arkansas clemencies outpace other states, Garrick Feldman, 2004)

FACT: Mike Huckabee raised more taxes in 10 years in office than Bill Clinton did in his 12 years. (Source: The Leader, 08/30/2006)

FACT: Mike Huckabee's substantial tax hikes far surpassed his modest tax cuts, with the average tax burden increasing by a whopping 47% over his tenure. (Source: Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 10/09/07)

FACT: Mike Huckabee opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003. (Source: Arkansas News Bureau, 11/21/03)

FACT: Mike Huckabee in 2004, he allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law. (Source: The Gurdon Times, 03/02/04)

FACT: Mike Huckabee stole over $70,000 worth of furniture from the Arkansas governors mansion. (Source: Arkansas Times Counting the Furniture, 12/14/06 Leslie Newell Peacock)

FACT: Mike Huckabee set up a nonprofit entity so he could give paid ``inspirational'' speeches without having to disclose the donors. (SOURCE: Bloomberg Dec 12, 2007 Margaret Carlson)

FACT: During the 2001 regular session of the Arkansas Legislature, Mike Huckabee supported giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. (Source Arkansas Journal, Mike Huckabee Supported Bill to Give Driver's Licenses to Illegal Aliens, Henry Rearden, 11/22/2007)

FACT: Mike Huckabee supported in-state higher education benefits for children of illegal immigrants. (Laura Kellams, "Senators research U.S. law on aliens," Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 1/27/05)

FACT: Mike Huckabee opposed a federal raid of 119 illegal immigrants at an Arkansas Tyson poultry plant, 107 of whom left the country either voluntarily or through deportation. (Melissa Nelson, "Huckabee Risks Political Fortunes To Denounce Immigration Raid," Associated Press, 8/5/05)

FACT: Mike Huckabee opposed a bill requiring proof of citizenship to vote in his own state. (Source CNS NEWS, Some GOP Concerned about Huckabee's Immigration Views, Fred Lucas, 12/04/2007)

FACT: Mike Huckabee says he has degree in theology, further investigation discovers he does not. (Source: The Carpetbagger Report, Mike Huckabee has a theology degree -- or does he?, 12/14/2007)

Look through his "Awe Schucks" act and see him for what he really is. Mike Huckabee is a liberal in conservative clothing.

Hey friend, if you want to believe that you came from a rock that is your option (that is what the theory of evolution claims). Some of us believe God created us.

Posted by: Dan Skogen | January 9, 2008 2:04 PM

Thats good...believe all you wish. I'll make you a deal. I won't support another one of us "rock" believers who is running for president if you won't support your religion in our government. There is freedom of religion and freedom from religion in the constitution...it's called seperation of church and state. The "good book" for the government is the constitution.

Note that the DNC Swamp captions the above Huckabee photo "Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas candidate".

Huh? "Former candidate?"

Wow, its interesting how some of you people like to rap on Huckabee. "Oh, he's a preacher..." "Oh he dosen't believe that we evolved from monkeys.." "Oh Huckabee likes his religious freedom and wants for people to have theirs too..." Those arguments you all make may not be in that direct wording, but I have to say, if you don't want somebody that is pleased with the fact Jesus is a part of their life, than say so. Say you don't want a Christian president. Just put it out there. Sum up your arguments by saying "I don't want a Christian president.", because your arguments are lame, bigoted, and papery at best. At least we would know you have the guts to outright say that you're all biggots that hate Christians.

Obiviously you are not aware that one's religion, and by default the beliefs one has because of that religion, are not to be used as a test of qualification for office. (Constitution Art 6 Sec 3)
So how about removing your 1st 13 points? Or would you rather have your ignorance of the constitution be as obivious as you think Mr Huckabee's is about the theories of our origin?

I have studied all candidates and their records. In the interest of fairness do not take the facts posted above at face value. They are inaccurate. Take the time to do your own research and reach your own conclusions before voting.

At least we would know you have the guts to outright say that you're all biggots that hate Christians.

Posted by: Daniel | January 9, 2008 3:01 PM

Thats kinda funny also...
Daniel...being that the christians say the non-believer will be danmed for all time. Who's the bigot?

Governor Huckabee is indeed a perfect fit for South Carolina, and in fact for most of the country! An authentic conservative, he is an accomplished executive with the heart of a pastor and a principled understanding of the world we live in. He will be a great President!

By the way Daniel...I want the candidate for POTUS to be the best qualified. Without the evangalical vote, Huck would be nowhere. His christian beliefs should not make him qualified for office.

Huckabee's one liner about having a president that is "like the guy they work with, not the guy who laid them off" is so bogus. He is aiming it at Romney, but either he doesn't know what a venture capitol company does, or he is trying to stir up lies. A venture capitol company (VC) buys a company that is failing (like Kmart was) and then restructures it and then makes it profitable. Yes, some jobs are lost, but instead of the company going bankrupt and all the people losing their jobs, some people still have a job and the company can now start a better business that is focused on growth and prospering. Or a VC company funds start up ideas, thus increasing jobs. Bain Capitol during Romney’s time there started start up like Staples, Bright Horizons Family Solutions, Brookstone, Domino's Pizza, Sealy, Guitar Center and The Sports Authority. That seems to me to say that Mitt Romney is the guy that helped bright and entrepreneurial people create thousands of jobs. Way to go Mitt!!!

The tax plan that Huckabee wants will never materialize. For one thing, Congress and those employed by the IRS and support roles (i.e. CPA, tax attorneys, ect) would never let the IRS be dissolved. Secondly, if by some miracle it did get dissolved there would be a huge recession that would follow, because the vast amount of people would cut spending because everything would cost at least 23% more. Besides this lets off the really rich guys who save a ton of money (not spending) and make loads more on their investments. They spend a lot, but not in comparison to how much they make. Besides it would increase people going to foreign countries and spending lavishly there, but not here. It would hurt tourism, because people would not come as often because everything would cost at least 23% more. This is a very devastating tax plan. It will let those who can pay a lot off the hook and leave the middle class to take the brunt of the burden.

The tax plan should be simplified and then taxes should be spent only on what the public needs are, not congresses or lobbies wish lists. Romney can get this done. He has the history and experience that can work for everyone’s benefit.

There are a few activists going around spamming these "FACT"s about Huckabee on every forum and comment field. I've seen the same stuff repeated all over the place.

For some reason, Huckabee freaks out certain people. I understand some of his beliefs scare some, but during his time as governor, he wasn't a crazy fanatic, and he was well-liked by people on both sides of the aisle.

I ask everyone to investigate Huckabee for yourself. Don't rely on third-party information; it ranges all over the map. Rely on your own intelligence and investigation.

You may find that you like Huckabee, or at least, that he isn't the crazy threat these people are screaming about.

Huckabee is NOT TRUST WORTHY.

Huckabee had 14 ethnical violations brought against him relating to finances as governor. Shortly before announcing his candidacy for the President of the United States, Huckabee ordered that the drives of 83 computers and 4 servers be destroyed during his transition phase in leaving office. This is what crooked CEO do when they leave a company.
Huckabee raised taxes 21 times and granted clemency to 1033 convicted felons, 12 murderers and rapists. Try to improve his tough on crime image with Chuck Norris. (Give me a break! If they were selling weight lose machine it would be more convincing!)
He has a 2 1/2 year of religious higher education and as a minister selling religion for a living with people's donation for 12 years. How can any one believe this man should lead the country and able to revive our economy?

Mark, that Constitutional provision is a restriction on governement, not private citizens. People can vote for whoever they want to, and can take religion into account in their decision if they want to.

That being said, I can't stand Huck. I'd rather have no President at all than have to choose between a Bible thumper and a liberal.

If you are a firm follower of the gospels then you will certainly acknowledge that they say homosexuality is wrong. That's not bigotry, that's faith in the Bible.

However, there is a fine line between faith and bigotry. If you use your faith to push an anti-homosexual agenda then you are a bigot. The Bible must be read in it's entirety to get the true message: Sin is wrong, pray for sinners, lead by example, love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Bigots can't understand this distinction. Follow the actions, not the beliefs.

If you think your "fun facts" will persuade the people of the Palmetto State that voting for Mike Huckabee isn't a good idea, you don't understand all the things you see as obviously the people of SC see as obviously good.

Thanks Bill R. You sold me on Huckabee! I like Mike.

Trust me, Huckabee is no conservative. He's certainly a pastor and a masterful rhetoritician. Aside from that, I see very little substance.

Lets face it, Romney is by far the most intelligent, qualified and classy of all the candidates in both parties. McCain's a loose cannon and an ol' frat boy and Huckabee's a slack-jawed christian socialist who frighteningly reminds me an awful lot like Jimmy Carter.

As a non-religious man, I must say the anti-mormon bigotry and venom that so frequently sprews from so many self-professed christian mouths regarding mormonisms and Romney disturbs me. I went to Huckabee's website and aside from all the Jesus speak and "God has chosen Huck" nonsense, I noticed this website and the blogs really are focused too much on evangelicals' hatred, resentment and bitterness toward Romney and by fiat, mormons. It really seems to be less about Romney the man and more about the fact that he's mormon. It truly is palpable.

Through all the bitterness, snideness and attacks on his character I must say I've been quite impressed with how gracious Romney has handled it and counter to what I hear... and perhaps ironically, it is Romney who seems to me to be the most "christian".

I really resent Hukabee using the religion card. Romney, as a religious man himself, has taken the high road with this regard. I personally find Huckabee distasteful and dishonest. I've seen the man flatly lie twice I supported the troop surge thing)and he refused to admit he lied about his position and his characterization of Romney's when it was painfully honest how deceptive he was being. Of course, the media refuses to hold Huck's feet to the fire and the evangelicals are too romanced with all the Jesus talk to see the man for who he really is. A smooth talker and a veritable snake oil salesman. I don't see much more.

Cheap sell!!!

Thanks Allen for your astute comments. There are way too many of these spam-like "fact" posts from this type of wierdo. I guess they have too much time on their hands, or is someone paying people to dis Huckabee? I've met and spoken with him here in New Hampshire, and he's a "regular" guy for sure - not a "bible thumper" - as anyone who makes an effort to review his record can see.

Where "in the gospels" does it say homosexuality is wrong? Which chapter and verse of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John addresses homosexuality?

It may really be there, but I can't find it. All I find in the usual literature are references to the Old Testament.

Huckabee NEVER said the earth is 6,000 years old - as are the other misstatements made about him. Speak the TRUTH and you'll be more believable. And, you apparently believe in homosexuality, which, if all males were, this would be the last generation on the face of the earth. Huckabee is credible, competent, and ready to lead this nation.

I endorse Mike Huckabee because:

Our country was founded by men who believed in God, and were not afraid to stand up for for what is right. By believing, it doesn't make Mike Huckabee a bad leader, it makes him a better one. This quote says a lot when you take a moment to think about where we came from:

"George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, first chief justice John Jay. Names synonymous with the spirit of our country. Founding fathers of the U.S.A. Over 200 years ago they shook of the chains of tyranny from Great Britain, by divine call. Citing 27 biblical violations they wrote the Declaration of Independence, with Liberty and justice for all. But something happened since Jefferson called the bible the cornerstone for American Liberty, then put it in our schools as a light. Or since give me liberty or give me death, Patrick Henry said our country was founded on the gospel of Jesus Christ. We eliminated God from the equation of American life, thus eliminating the reason this Nation first began. From beyond the grave I can hear the voices of our founding fathers plead, you need God in America again. Of the 55 men who formed the constitution, 52 were active members of their church. Founding fathers like Noah Webster who wrote the first dictionary, could literally quote the bible chapter and verse. James Madison said we've staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all our heart. These men believed you couldn't even call yourself an American, if you subvert the word of God. In his farewell address, Washington said you can't have National morality apart from religious principal, and it's true." (Carman)

I support Mike Huckabee because of what he stands for. He is intelligent, charming, funny, professional, inspiring and a really great guy.

Dan Campbell

You are right "Allan Fuller" I have seen that too. No doubt the spammers are paid Romney bloggers since he is the only candidate that has absolutely no honor!

Romney thinks his dirty money can buy and sway the votes of the American people.

I Ask ask you all to stick together and research on your own. Look at all sources for all candidates.

I have no doubt that people like you and I will see who the only honest and inspiring candidate really is.

You are right "Allan Fuller" I have seen that too. No doubt the spammers are paid Romney bloggers since he is the only candidate that has absolutely no honor!

Romney thinks his dirty money can buy and sway the votes of the American people.

I Ask ask you all to stick together and research on your own. Look at all sources for all candidates.

I have no doubt that people like you and I will see who the only honest and inspiring candidate really is.

i am a postdoc microbiologist and i have some honest questions about the evolutionary theory. please have an open mind when you read scientific literature and understand that not everything in text-books are correct. as much as one may question faith and religion, try to keep as open mind and question as you read scientific journals or even evidence based medicine. facts in textbooks esp in medicine change year to year. look up cardiovascular risks with hormone replacement in post-menapausal women. recommendations have completely reversed itself based on "evidence based medicine" three times within the past few years. Look up also Stanley Miller experiment on amino acid generation and his apparatus. Some questions there about stability of ammonia given strength of UV radiation in early earth atmosphere. May not have generated key ammino acids. Primordial soup is not as clear as basic textbooks make it appear. Think for yourself, keep an open mind. Don't assume evolution must have happended.

Fair Tax, LA. said "Bye Bye IRS".

Huckabee is right, NOT. Get rid of the IRS - let's go ahead and fire 115,000 federal employees and the hundreds of thousands of Americans with their small businesses that supply tax services to indivdiuals, not to mention the high school students dancing on the street corners in Lady Liberty Costumes every April. Get rid of it and give Congress a simple tax dial.

No muddling through to get tax increases, simply turn the dial higher.
Year one 23%, year two 25%, year three 32%.
There are not enough checks and balances for the, so called, Fair Tax.

That is a SMRT economic policy for America - vote Huckabee for a vibrant economy heading into a recession. His tax policy alone will bring down the house.

Firing 115,000 federal employees would be a huge mistake, the US economy only created 43,000 jobs in November of 2007.

Ah, is all this slander the collective work of the RomneyBorg? Christian haters? Why don't y'all go steal some more McCain signs?

Mike Huckabee actually believes the Bible is the Word of God. Heavens! What is the world coming to!!Seeing that Jesus Christ himself clearly believed that Noah's flood was real (see Matthew 24:36),and also believed in the creation "myth" (see Matthew 19:4), that puts Mike in pretty good company! Friend, your intolerant anti-Christian rant reveals a darkened heart and mind.

Mike Huckabee actually believes the Bible is the Word of God. Heavens! What is the world coming to!!Seeing that Jesus Christ himself clearly believed that Noah's flood was real (see Matthew 24:36),and also believed in the creation "myth" (see Matthew 19:4), that puts Mike in pretty good company! Friend, your intolerant anti-Christian rant reveals a darkened heart and mind.

If you really want to know where Mike Huckabee stands on the issues, just go to mikehuckabee.com. Some folks aren't satisfied with supporting their candidate and providing reasons why they are better. Maybe that's because their candidate isn't a better choice. Mike Huckabee has the character, the core values, the leadership experience (in government and out) and the ability to make tough decisions.

I understand that Mike believes that abortions should be illegal in all circumstances, including when a mother's life is in danger, and when the pregnancy was a result of rape or incest. His beliefs seem pretty extreme to me!

bible bangers are such morons.

I am from Asia and I am excited at the thought that an authentic person, one who staunchly defends unborn babies, morality, the poor, and God, will become the leader of the free world. And he was a well-praised governor with great executive experience.

It will be a better world indeed. Go Mike!

I guess the poster of facts does not realize that most of the facts endear us to Mike, not turn us from him.

He Took A Muckin and Kept on Huckin

I was at Mike Huckabee's event last night. It was awesome!

For people who quickly label him as a pastor are like insisting Reagan an actor. Sure he once was a pastor, an honorable career, by the way. But he has been AR governor longer than any one else in the history book. During his watch, the Dem raised the taxes so he used it to build highway and restore school system. The education achievement (measured by improvement) was tremendous.

He is compassionate and civil. You can see it when he refused to run neg ads.

He is good at facing crisis and respond with a cool mind. Look into the event when he was sworn in as AR governor (as a replacement) first time and you will see what I meant. It was a constitutional emergency when a disgraced outing governor refused to give up.

And, he is funny too. He is a guy so likable you will have to force yourself to say something mean about him - if you meet him personally. That's a great asset in today's polarized politics.

Go Huckabee!!!!

Not Huckabee...Huckawas! Down and out very shortly.

Here is a fun fact for some of you:

Over 500 doctoral Scientists have signed that they show skepticism about Darwin's theory of evolution. The list of 514 signatories includes 154 biologists, 76 chemists and 63 physicists.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48911

and

http://www.physorg.com/news11005.html

You believe what you want, but I can just take one look at this beautiful and complex planet for my decision.

Never-the-less This campaign is about the best qualified person for the job.

Mike Huckabee Governed Arkansas for over 10 years people kept re-electing him, because of the excellent job he did. He cut taxes, built better roads, and left the State with a huge surplus to do more with their future.

In fact Time magazine named Mike Huckabee one of the 5 best Governors in America!

I will be voting for Mike Huckabee!

JASON GEORGE RULES!

This is Bible-blubbering country.

This odd man should do well.

At least we would know you have the guts to outright say that you're all biggots that hate Christians.

Posted by: Daniel | January 9, 2008 3:01 PM

So, I guess us "bigots" won't be voting for any of the other candidates for President because they are not Chris...

Oh wait! They ALL are Christian. Yeah, that's some bigotry we must have for not supporting Huckabee.

If you are a firm follower of the gospels then you will certainly acknowledge that they say homosexuality is wrong. That's not bigotry, that's faith in the Bible.
Posted by: RobbyLove | January 9, 2008 07:35 PM

I would like to join the others in anxiously awaiting your New Testament passages concerning homosexuality. This is a new one to me. Most fundamentalists acknowledge that Jesus was silent on homosexuality, but justify their hatred for homosexuals by citing the Old Testament.

Which leads me to wonder, since most fundamentalists seem to prefer the fire and brimstone of the Old Testament to the love and harmony of the new, why aren't they Jews?

Jesus was a Jew.

Where "in the gospels" does it say homosexuality is wrong? Which chapter and verse of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John addresses homosexuality?

It may really be there, but I can't find it. All I find in the usual literature are references to the Old Testament.

Posted by: No.9 | January 9, 2008 10:08 PM

No. 9, when reading literature, such as the Gospels, it helps to set them in context. You are correct when you say that the Gospels do not explicitly state that homosexuality is wrong. However, the people to whom Jesus is speaking in the Gospels were, by and large, Jews. And these Jews in the First Century C.E. were, for the most part, strict adherents to "the Law and the Prophets" -- what we know today as the Old Testament. Therefore, Jesus did not need to reiterate everything found in the moral codes embedded in these writings. His audience would have known well and good that in the Law, God had stipulated that homosexuality was sinful. In fact, the Law stipulated that those who practiced homosexuality must be executed. Obviously, Christians are called by God to practice grace and to seek to draw all people to God. So, public executions for all "moral failures" would be counter-productive to that goal. But Jesus at no point disputed the moral codes, merely the religious leaders' interpretation of them. Jesus said that "not one jot or tittle" (Hebrew characters akin to apostrophes or the dot above the letter "i" in English) of the Law would be done away with so long as the world endured. Hope that helped. Now, back to politics.

Posted by: JB | January 10, 2008 2:15 PM
May I ask you then, why did Christians abandon the strick beliefs of womens role as written in the bible? Because you like women and don't like gays?