No Venezualan oil for me!

I only want my oil from countries who's policies and positions I agree with, like Saudi Arabia. Monarchy, no rights for women, support for terrorism, that what I want my oil money to go for!

This is dangerous because it shatters my worldview. All US allies are angels of God and all leaders Bush tells me to not like have fangs with blood dripping off of their chins and they feast on babies.

Lefty Democrat gets cozy with Latin American Leftist anti-American dictator.

No surprise here.

Lefty Democrat gets cozy with Latin American Leftist anti-American dictator.

No surprise here.

Posted by: Bruce | January 15, 2008 1:06 PM

Hate for everyone except my party...No surprise here.

I didn't know that Citgo was a western hemisphere oil co. I'd rather send them my $$$ than a bunch of oil sheiks in the Middle East.

RNC Brucie,

Your Republican Prez is in Saudi Arabia today holding hands with his oil pals.

You do remember the Saudi's don't ya?

That's were all those 9/11 hijackers came from, right?
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushabdullahhands.htm

P S - Congrats on your recent marriage, Brucie, I hope she's a Democrat.

Why don't you see this for what it is. An attempt to look "good" in the nations eyes, while taking control of every aspect of his own nation's businesses. His people starve and freeze then sends cheap oil to the US in an attempt to embarrass America. Anyone who falls for these ploys is ignorant, regardless of party or political affiliation.
By the way we get the majority of our oil imports from Canada, look it up before you criticize. Chavez is an evil dictator, bllodthirsty and hungry for power as any before him. The do-gooders always are the ones to cause the most trouble (Pol Pot, Idi-Amin, etc.).

The weirdos that make up the Loony Left are in full throttle hysteria here. Praise for the Almight Chavez, who takes land away from private citizens, keeps poor people poor with no hope, and who seeks to spread revolution and discontent throughout the world. He cavorts with Iran's leaders. Yet, the Loony Left loves him! For all the so-called attacks on the rights of citizens the Loony Left says Bush has done to the American people, the reality is Chavez has done worse. Yet, the Loony Left LOVES Chavez. Just goes to show the Loony Left LOVES enemies of America, enemies of freedom, enemies of democracy, and enemies of anything good.
Then, we have Frank James who writes that Chavez is the enemy of the Bush administration. No, Frank, he is the enemy of the American people and the enemy in Venezuala.
Sam Zell, you really need to start cleaning house at the Trib. It's reporters are more suited for the Pravda Daily or Havana Times.
Oh, Demented and Deranged John E., the Saudi government wasn't behind or suppoortive of 9/11 just because some Saudis took part. Under your reasoning, or more correrctly lack thereof, that would mean the British government was behind the London bombings because the bombers came from England.

Well, anyone who is an enemy of the Bush Administration is not an enemy of the US.

Praise for the Almight Chavez, who takes land away from private citizens, keeps poor people poor with no hope, and who seeks to spread revolution and discontent throughout the world.

Posted by: John D | January 15, 2008 2:20 PM

Wow! I substituted Chavez with Bush and the meaning of this sentence is not lost.

Wing Nuts are just hypocrites!!!!!!

NEW YORK (CNN) -- At first glance, former New York Mayor and 2008 presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani wouldn't seem to have much in common with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

One is considered one of the heroes in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, a leader who walked to ground zero while the World Trade Center towers smoldered. The other is a vehement anti-American who has called President Bush a "madman" and "the devil" and flaunts his association with longtime U.S. adversary Fidel Castro of Cuba.

But there is a link between the two, according to the Texas Ethics Commission. Giuliani's law firm, Bracewell and Giuliani, is making money by lobbying American lawmakers on behalf of Citgo Petroleum Corp. of Houston. Citgo is the American subsidiary of Petroleos de Venezuela -- the state-owned Venezuelan oil company.

Bracewell and Giuliani made as much as $150,000 from the lobbying in 2005-06 and will make up to $100,000 this year, according to the ethics commission.

"Like most lawyers, [Giuliani] chooses his clients on the basis of what salary they're paying him," said Wayne Barrett, who has written extensively about the former mayor's business practices. "He got a chunk of money to join this law firm. They changed the name of the law firm to headline him. ... He's lent his credibility to these folks and sort of tossed the ball in the air."

Oh, Demented and Deranged John E., the Saudi government wasn't behind or suppoortive of 9/11 just because some Saudis took part. Under your reasoning, or more correrctly lack thereof, that would mean the British government was behind the London bombings because the bombers came from England.

Posted by: John D | January 15, 2008 2:20 PM

Lil'Johnny Joystick,

Why do you think Prez Chimpy "can't find" Bin-Laden?...that's right you fool, Bin-Laden's from Saudi and the people there would be pissed.

"Wanted dead or alive"...my arse!!!
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi139.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq306%2Fgrooveclock%2FMission%2520Accomplished%2Fosama-mission-accomplished.jpg&searchTerm=mission%20accomplished&pageOffset=17

January 15, 2008 2:20 PM

One word Saudi Arabia. Moving on. What we have here is a classic example of the tables turning. We have a country who's not nice to its people and land. We have Americans who want to do business with the country. In the old days it was the liberal do-gooders who shrilled at the thought while reciting a litany of human right's violations and environmental expolitaiton. Instead we have "conservatives" who are bemoaning the issue. Hypocrisy all around? Yes, but I'm too tired to divulge. However, I will say nothing, and I mean nothing, is more ironic than a "conservative" who has now taken a save-the-people stand while at some point being in the same position they are criticizing.... "Sometimes you have to sleep with the devil."

So we are sleeping with them. All of them. Each one taking a turn. You can't possibly be arguing that we can exist in this world without having to interact with its co-habitors. A pox on both houses. I'm not going to list every non-democratic country and give you a list of one party who supported or supports it in some way, like one person who will remain nameless.

A reminder though. Liberal do gooders still keep tabs on human rights violations, and leaders and practices that are not nice to thier own people and/or lands. All of them. (Ask Bruce for a list of "biased" do gooders who are DNC operatives ) They don't pin one against another to show one is better than the other. A problem is a problem. The fact that it is a problem doesn't change in the shadow of a bigger problem.

Liberals and Conservatives know this. Only becuse my New Years Resolution was to keep that name out of my post (I met my 99,999 quota) ----- people who will remain nameless do not.

My, my, my. Look what John D puked up today on the Swamp. Same filth, different day.

Well, since the Republic party wingnuts are so opposed to Citgo, I guess they must be good in some respect. Going to gas up w/Citgo on the way home tonight. Tell Hugo 'thanks' wingnuts!

Joseph Kennedy jr. gave his life in WW2 flying a secret mission to destroy a Nazi rocket base.
His demented liberal nephew, Joseph Kennedy, is a prpaganda machine for socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez.
A true mindless left winger.

Paulo

Read the hate for just about anybody coming from the high moral ground republicans.

Citgo consistently has the lowest gas prices in the market. What's wrong with that? If we stopped buying products because it came from a country that doesn't have a democracy, we wouldn't have much of anything.

How many items do we all own that say "Made in China"?

Kennedy was speaking of a business deal. Nothing more. So quit making such a big deal out of it.

If Chavez and Venazeula is such an "enemy", then maybe the Bush administration should call for an embargo? Not likely, is it? To take the most affordable gas and energy products off the market would be political suicide.

Yep, there sure is allot of difference between those scumbag Saudi playboys and Hugo Chavez. For the life of me though, I don't know what it is.

Wait, I do know. Their friends with the Bush family!!!

The shell game Bush played meant diverting the American public's attention to Iraq, which had no apparent role in 9/11. Although 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, bin Laden is a member of one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia, and the Saudis financed bin Laden, Bush managed to convince most Americans that the majority of 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi and that Saddam Hussein played a key role in the attack. That's how a political shell game works. Only in this case, thousands of lives were lost in a con job in which the American people were played for suckers by their own leadership.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-j-learsy/president-bush-in-saudi-l_b_81016.html

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/04/int04018.html

http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm

http://www.davidsirota.com/2005/08/bush-ignoring-domestic-alternatives-to.html

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1211-05.htm

p.s. keep drinking the Kool-Aid John, Paulo, Bruce, and the rest of the dead end kids.

"Praise for the Almight Chavez, who takes land away from private citizens, keeps poor people poor with no hope, and who seeks to spread revolution and discontent throughout the world. He cavorts with Iran's leaders."

How are the Saudis any different?

The Saudi oil industry is owned by the Government (Saudi Aramco), not private citizens

They do little to give the poor of the world "hope".

They work to spread revolution and discontent throught the world by supporting radical Islamic Madrassas.

http://kyl.senate.gov/legis_center/subdocs/sc062603_alexiev.pdf

They "cavort" with the leader of Iran.

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=8888

So why condemnation for Chavez and praise for Abdullah? Both are vile dictators who work against US interests.

So many hypocrites, so little time. Please don't speak of human rights violations while buying Jaffe oranges and products made in Israel when Israel illegally occupies a whole nation and keeps them in poverty and under despicable conditions while slowly eating away at the Palestinian homeland. At least Hugo Chavez is not trying to ethnically disposess a whole people.

If the U.S. wants to start judging the actions of world leaders or of nations toward their citizens, then our government should maintain a standard for all nations, not just attack those who don't see eye to eye with the current Bush administration. Bush/Cheney are against Chavez because he is making them look bad since they and their oil cronies would be the ones to profit from higher oil prices. Human rights isn't even in the picture. The truth is the Kennedy ad makes the U.S.'s treatment of its low income population look bad and Chavez's remedy look good.

Illogic Man getting his information from Far Left Loony websites. No wonder he's clueless!

nephew, Joseph Kennedy, is a prpaganda machine for socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez.
A true mindless left winger.
_____________________________
Would the mindless category include people that don't know how to spell propaganda?

For more on the mindset of pillow, jdyslin, rncbruce and the entire mis-administration of boy george and president chainsaw, see the following...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=102585813125825400

The reader should remember that "an enemy of the Bush Administration" (which includes many Americans) is not necessarily an enemy of the United States.

Two different things completely, just ask John McCain and Mike Huckabee.

Chavez tells the American Neocon Corporate machine to shove it and they paint him as an evil dictator. Bet Chavez has fewer signing statements than Bush. Don't know what sources the wingers are reading about Chavez (don't really want to know, actually), but what I've read he's a pretty popular guy and has put a lot of the country's oil money into the people and education.

I go out of my way to buy Citgo. Exxon doesn't get a dollar from me till they pay up for the Valdez incident.

John D,

Once again who demonstrate your profound ignorance of the Saudi situation. The Saudi government for years has supported the radical Wahhabi element, either directly through financing (read protection money) or by ignoring the extremist agenda of Wahhabi Saudis in the education system, for instance.

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-lerman-s06.htm

While most of you throw your policital jabs at each other, I will stress to you that Chavez has driven his own country into further depths of poverty and slowly removed the personal freedoms of millions of Venezuelan citizens while padding his bank accounts (and Fidel's). He has wasted billions of dollars and is a real threat to the stability of Latin America. That, in turn, becomes a problem for us--the oil the most obvious.
If you continue to focus your hate on Bush then we weaken our country and don't help ourselves. Something needs to be done about the current dictator in Caracas.

I will stress to you that Chavez has driven his own country into further depths of poverty and slowly removed the personal freedoms of millions of Venezuelan citizens while padding his bank accounts (and Fidel's). He has wasted billions of dollars and is a real threat to the stability of Latin America. That, in turn, becomes a problem for us--the oil the most obvious.

Posted by: Benz | January 15, 2008 8:33 PM

Now, Benz, rewrite your comment and substitute "Bush" for Chavez", and "Cheney" for "Castro",and "Americans" for "Venezuelans" and the "United States" for "Latin America," and you will have hit the nail on the head!

Truth, go spend a few weeks down in Caracas and talk to the people and then tell me if you want to make your word switcheroo. Better yet, don't come back--stay down there.

Truth, go spend a few weeks down in Caracas and talk to the people and then tell me if you want to make your word switcheroo. Better yet, don't come back--stay down there.

Yo, Benzy, your sock puppet is showing.

Oh, and Chavez was elected democratically. Why don't you go back to Mecca-and stay there.

If the rich Venezualens don't like Chavez and he's "driven his own country into further depths of poverty and slowly removed the personal freedoms of millions of Venezuelan citizens while padding his bank accounts (and Fidel's)", they should vote with their feet and move. I'm pretty sure most of Latin America speaks Spanish so there would be no language barrier. Guess things aren't as bad as the right wing fascists claim since wealthy Venezuelans are not moving.

"Guess things aren't as bad as the right wing fascists claim since wealthy Venezuelans are not moving."

Has it occurred to you that maybe they are too poor to afford a move? And that the rich have no reason to move as they profit from the money they get from international institutions (that come in to "make things better") based on the rate of poverty; therefore the rich have no reason to make things better for the poor. As a matter of fact it is in the interest of the rich to keep the people poor in order to get aid, and if not aid to have a steady poor population under a rock in order to provide cheap labor for companies that come in to make a profit and line the pockets of the wealth at the expense of the poor and their lands.

Since I'm living in Venezuela, I thought I'd chime in. Most of the educated middle class of Venezuela are frantically looking for jobs elsewhere, so many people ARE voting with their feet. Ready to let them be US citizens? They'd love to be. Chavez & PDVSA laid off thousands of well-educated workers that participated in a strike against him in 2002, and those people are now highly valued workers elsewhere in the world. So many people were afraid to vote against him the second time, thinking they might lose their jobs..is it a true democratic victory if the opposition is scared to vote? (They have to put their signature & thumb print next to their vote and yes every government entity including PDVSA takes note of who votes & how.) I personally have not seen milk in the stores here in Venezuela since October 2007, nor have most people I talk to...rich, middle class, or poor. Why do you think he lost the last referendum? IN A COUNTRY FLUSH WITH OIL MONEY, HE CANT PROVIDE BASIC NECESSITIES TO ANYONE, not even the poor. The statistics here, as in many places, are skewed by the government. At least in the US, the dirty laundry and poor results are out there for all to judge, and there is NOT RETRIBUTION for voting against anyone. The American dream is still very much alive, and if you don't appreciate that, then come & live in any 3rd world country including Venezuela. THEN see how supportive you are of those governments vs our tried and true democratic system under ANY of our leaders, even the poorer ones.

"Since I'm living in Venezuela, I thought I'd chime in....
THEN see how supportive you are of those governments vs our tried and true democratic system under ANY of our leaders, even the poorer ones."

Posted by: prodemocracy | January 16, 2008 2:48 PM

Why are you living there if it's so bad? Typical Ugly American looking down your nose at your host nation, yet taking advantage of its culture and economic conditions for your own benefit.

Prodemocracy is right.....I was a doctor in Venezuela and voted against Chavez in the referendum that he fixed in 2004. Shortly thereafter I was refused any more patients from the government. The cost of living last year rose by 35% in my country. How you people defend this President who is flush with money from the highest oil prices in history is beyond me. People like "the Truth" who use this forum to spread their leftist views at the expense of the suffering in my country. Shame on you gringo pig.

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Illogic Man getting his information from Far Left Loony websites. No wonder he's clueless!

Posted by: John D | January 15, 2008 5:04 PM
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Geographically Ignorant Dumb Dumb Little Johnnie Dyslin, "the Joseph Stalin of Streamwood", why didn't you address any of the facts in the articles that Logic Prisoner linked to, rather than just attacking the messenger/sources? Could it be because you can't handle the truth? Could it be that you have no answer to the facts?

When challenged to back up your posts with facts, you generally don't provide links, let alone links to sites that are "far right wingnut dingbat sites".

Get a clue yourself.

Prodemocracy is right.....I was a doctor in Venezuela and voted against Chavez in the referendum that he fixed in 2004. Shortly thereafter I was refused any more patients from the government. The cost of living last year rose by 35% in my country. How you people defend this President who is flush with money from the highest oil prices in history is beyond me. People like "the Truth" who use this forum to spread their leftist views at the expense of the suffering in my country. Shame on you gringo pig.

Posted by: The Truth is ignorant | January 16, 2008 8:26 PM

Ah, yes, and how the "rich" do suffer - the end of an oligarchy government, no more privilege, no more servants to kick around. Now, the poor have a vested interest. Sorry that the silver spoon was taken out of your mouth. Listen, Doc, if indeed you are a doctor, your English reeks of pretense and, if you're from Venezuela, and with such a command of the English language, maybe you could teach Chavez to speak English.

Read the article, it says that Venezuela is offering low-priced heating oil to low income Americans. So, it aint all bad, eh.

Elect the Truth for the next President of the Bolivarian Republic! He seems to know what's going on in my country better than us Venezuelans do. Or is it the brainwashing he's getting up in San Francisco?