by Frank James
The Big Bobcat tried to get his claws into Sen. Barack Obama today. The question is, did he draw blood?
The New York Times's political blog, The Caucus, is reporting that Robert Johnson, the billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television, or BET, and owner of the National Basketball Association's Charlotte Bobcats, was campaigning with Sen. Hillary Clinton in South Carolina when he criticized Obama.
It was there that, as Katharine Seelye reports, Johnson made what appeared to be an allusion to Obama's use of illegal drugs as a young man.
It was Johnson's way of defending the New York senator and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, from accusations from the Obama camp and beyond that some recent Clinton comments were dismissive of both Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Obama.
At a rally here for Mrs. Clinton at Columbia College, Mr. Johnson was defending recent comments that Mrs. Clinton made regarding Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. She did not mean to take any credit away from him, Mr. Johnson said, when she said that it took President Johnson to sign the civil rights legislation he fought for.
Dr. King had led a "moral crusade," Mr. Johnson said, but such crusades have to be "written into law."
"That is the way the legislative process works in this nation and that takes political leadership," he said. "That's all Hillary was saying."
He then added: "And to me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood - and I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book - when they have been involved."
Moments later, he added: "That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me, for a guy who says, 'I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier 'Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.' And I'm thinking, I'm thinking to myself, this ain't a movie, Sidney. This is real life.
Johnson has since tried to make his comments seem more benign, saying he was talking merely of Obama's time as a community organizer and that anyone who thinks he was alluding to anything else (read drug use) is "irresponsible and incorrect."
So he wants us to believe the invidious comparison he was making contrasting the Clintons to Obama was to say that Obama was a community organizer when the Clintons were advancing civil-rights? To borrow a phrase from Obama, that really does seem like the audacity of hope on Johnson's part.
Johnson certainly has a right to issue a "clarifying" statement. But the public also has a right to be dubious, to believe that Johnson was indeed making an allusion to Obama's self-admitted use of pot and cocaine as a young man.
Assuming that that's what Johnson, a lawyer by training who knows how to use language, meant to do is interesting on a few levels.
Johnson made his fortune through a cable channel known in black America for showing so many rump-shaking music videos (videos with scantily clad women shaking their derrieres in the camera) that many people over the years have come to apply the term "bootylicious" to the genre of videos his channel showed.
Furthermore, many of those bootylicious hip-hop videos shown by his channel featured young male rappers whose subjects tended to run the very narrow gamut of guns, drugs, cars and women. (Did I mention drugs?)
Watch long enough and you'd likely see a "gangsta" light up a blunt, a marijuana stogie. This was the fare many black kids across America grew up on as they watched Mr. Johnson's channel.
For that reason, even though Johnson became that rarest of rare creatures, a black billionaire after he sold his channel to Viacom, there's ambivalence about him among many black Americans who viewed much of the programming on his channel as adding to many of black America's problems.
So casting even veiled aspersions on Obama over his youthful use of drugs will no doubt make many people who know Johnson's story and BET say "Now, wait one cotton-picking, bootylicious minute."
As far as Sidney Poitier is concerned, how many young people in a college audience would get that reference to a 1967 movie?
Not only that; did Obama really ever say he wanted to be Poitier? Don't remember that one.
Wonder what Rep. James Clyburn's going to make of Johnson's comments? As many people know by now the lawmaker, the highest ranking African-American in the House leadership and a very influential man in South Carolina, didn't take kindly to the Clinton comments and now he's got a whole set of new ones to ponder, along with whether he should remain neutral or show his unhappiness with the Clinton's by endorsing Obama.
One thing that makes Johnson's comments more interesting in connection with Clyburn is that Johnson, the chief executive officer of RLJ Cos.,. has generously contributed to Clyburn, as he has to other members of the Congressional Black Caucus. For that reason, it would be a stunning thing indeed if Clyburn rebuked Johnson the way he has the Clintons.







Comments
This was a tragic mistake by Johnson. If he hadn't gone there and then lied about it afterward, his defense of the Clintons might have actually saved them. Now, it just makes things worse.
Posted by: Mike | January 13, 2008 10:00 PM
The stupidity of Bob Johnson who sold BET to a white man has now gone all the way. He has lived too long in a racial haven where he has lost his ability to read black and white. You don't have to listen to Obama's campaign to get offended by Hillary's words you can read the interview for yourself. The things people will do to be celebrated by a former president including betraying thier own race is sad.
Posted by: Stephen | January 13, 2008 10:02 PM
Will we see a swift movement by voters away from Clinton? I thought Clinton was the candidate for change soooo, Where's The Change? These tactics are familiar and so pathetic. But sadly, many people will continue to fall for her manipulative ways. In the meantime, if you're tired of these tactics come visit www.barackobama.com. He's got new plans listed for the economy and the war in Iraq. Come take a look and see if you'd like to be a part of the people's MOVEMENT for change!
Posted by: ezzy | January 13, 2008 10:10 PM
Was that Bobcat named Paulo or John D?
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: John E | January 13, 2008 10:15 PM
"One thing that makes Johnson's comments more interesting in connection with Clyburn is that Johnson, the chief executive officer of RLJ Cos.,. has generously contributed to Clyburn, as he has to other members of the Congressional Black Caucus. For that reason, it would be a stunning thing indeed if Clyburn rebuked Johnson the way he has the Clintons."
Posted by Frank James on January 13, 2008 9:28 PM
And stunning, imo, if Clyburn says nothing at all, as well! Looks to me like the older African-American Elected Officials might be voting and endorsing, or possibly staying quiet, to save their own sources of funding and favors from the Clintons or Clinton Friends, please tell me I'm wrong...
What a mess...it felt like the '90's on Meet the Press today...double-talk, going nowhere...
Hate to say it, but I HOPE she's out of the race soon...I'm running out of Tylenol...
Posted by: kat | January 13, 2008 10:16 PM
Common sense does exist. I am not a Hillary supporter, but fair is fair and this "scandal" is a joke. Campaign on the issues, don't make up nonsense to be fodder for the pundits. I have been leaning towards Obama for a new change in Washington, but it sure doesn't feel like something new. I will wait to see where they go from here. I am one American who will no longer just listen to the words.....I will watch their actions.
Posted by: bill r. | January 13, 2008 10:21 PM
umh. one thing to denounce his vicious attacks on obama, quite another to use the issue as a vehicle for your ideas on jonhson's character, through BET. you might well be as grotesque as he is.
Posted by: tolerance | January 13, 2008 10:21 PM
I don't know what the issue is? Hillary spoke the truth about M.L.K. jr.
And her husband B.J. isn't racist, he has alot in common with black people, he also grew up with-out a father figure in the house, and he became a U.S president.
Paulo
Posted by: Paulo | January 13, 2008 10:26 PM
RE:
Obama attacked by 'Big Bobcat'
by Frank James
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LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON
Montreal, March 22, 1995
President William Jefferson Clinton
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W.
Washington, DC 20500
U.S.A.
Mister President:
Please allow me to take the opportunity of your visit to Haiti, as President of the United States of America, on March 31, 1995, to pay due tribute in all sincerity to you and your distinguished wife, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
You honor Haiti and the Haitian people with your presence and support.
Thanks to you and your allies in the United Nations and the Organization of American States, the return-to-democracy process has been successfully carried out. Now that the legitimate President, Jean Bertrand Aristide, has been reinstated in his official status, it is with legitimate pride, I am sure that he welcomes you to his country. For you, as well as for us, the "Uphold Democracy" operation is truly a beautiful historical moment.
Mr. President, I come from Haiti, that underdeveloped country.
With underdeveloped tools — a camera and a few films — I have tried, in order to serve my country’s cause, to demystify the word "light" and denounce Newton’s Theory of Colors.
With that same desire to serve constitutional legitimacy in my country, I have written the enclosed book entitled Haiti, Let There Be Light! I hope that you and Mrs. Clinton will accept this privately produced copy, especially intended for you, while you are getting ready for your trip to Haiti.
May I make a confession to you, Mr. President? I followed, closely and with intense interest, your electoral campaign, election, and swearing-in ceremony as 42nd President of the United States. What a great nation you represent! Please believe me: your courageous commitment to facilitate the restoration of democracy in my country has escaped no one. On the very day of your swearing-in ceremony, I wished to send you my book, Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit!, which questions Newton’s Theory of Colors. I did not do so, because I felt an English-language version would be more appropriate.
Since I could not send you a copy of the yet-to-be-published English version of my book, I contented myself with dreaming — dreaming that on one of your first evenings in the White House, you were seated in the Oval Room with Mrs. Clinton and your daughter Chelsea. You were reading Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit! I imagined you carefully examining certain passages of that work in its English version, which is now in preparation — typed by a sightless, multilingual Haitian. Those paragraphs deal with the so-called missing matter, darkness in space, “black holes” — in a word: the invisible mass of the Cosmos. You notice Dr. Carl Sagan’s research on Exobiology and the DNA found in the dark matter in the universe, and you suddenly remember a Time article from April 10, 1978 entitled “Black Holes and Martian Valleys”, which contained the following passage:
"A while later, astronomer Carl Sagan (The Dragons of Eden) found himself lugging his slide box into the Vice President’s big new house and, after coffee, taking the Mondale and Carter families on a journey through the heavens.
Jimmy Carter is the closest thing to a scientist we have had in the White House since Thomas Jefferson.
Nixon could not run a tape recorder.
Johnson could not fully figure out his alarm wrist watch.
Not Jimmy. He was fascinated by the discussion of "Black Holes" and the speculation that they might provide answers to what holds the Universe together."
"Well", you exclaimed, "O.K. for former President Carter. It is normal for the President of a star-spangled republic to choose between 'Star Peace' and 'Star War'. As to the former President’s inclination toward Einstein’s physics and/or Planck’s Quantum Theory, there is a great temptation to apply certain laws of the Cosmos to politics and diplomacy. Consider the "Tunnel Effect", the way that energy escapes from black holes.
"Carter goes back to the sources and draws inspiration from them. That makes me think about Aristide — both of them are well at ease in both the Western world and the Black world: the visible and the invisible. However, there is one difference: the Haitians follow Aristide everywhere, like a comet’s tail. If Aristide is considered as a 'Black Sun', then the Haitians are 'Space refugees'."
"Yes, Haiti! We are pulled down to earth. Democracy… the exodus of the Boat People… with the Law of Probabilities, whether we think about Planck or Carter, it doesn’t seem that a solution will be found tomorrow…"
"What business did the Haitians have in that boat?"
"Oh God," you say aloud to Mrs. Clinton: "Eureka! I have found it! Fiat lux! Let there be light! Que la lumière soit! Black holes, black sun, tunnel effect, Aristide effect, boat people, space refugees, Carl Sagan, Jimmy Carter… six of one and half a dozen of the other."
There is loud laughter in the Oval Room.
Bill a ri
Bill laughed
Hillary a ri
Hillary laughed
Chelsea a ri aussi
Chelsea laughed too
Humor is American, Mr. President, and so are dreams. Let my book Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit! be the "ark matter", arguing in favor of the development of the Black world — visible and invisible!
In the area of science, high technology, creative innovation, and space exploration, I think there is nothing that America cannot deal with. That is why, in that spaceship of universal energy, I dare sail with a dream.
In my dream, it is your first trip inside your SPACE AIR FORCE ONE, propelled by the energy of invisible and concentrated dark matter, like black holes. A mini black hole of an avant-garde design whose motor sequence develops inertia, spectral speed, speed equal to or higher than that of light, and scientifically controlled reversibility of the phenomenon.
What a new synthesis, but also what a liberation!
Synthesis and analysis of two wings of the same bird — contracted and unfolded at the same time, following the heartbeat of the Universe tamed inside the infinitely small: "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!"
This would be the natural and constructive counterpart of Newton’s Theory of Light and Colors, which slows down that impulse. This is a necessary change in the name of development and progress humbly submitted on behalf of Haiti: a testimony of gratitude toward mankind. Let us go further, to the other side of the Universe, as suggested by an eyewitness: the Hubble telescope, with its camera.
"… Hubble focused on the centre of the galaxy [M87], an area 500 light-years across. The pictures revealed a spiral structure formed by fast-moving gas clouds being drawn toward the centre, rather like water going down a drain."
Dr. Harms said "the Hubble spectrographic camera was then focused on points 60 light-years across on opposite sides of the spinning disc. This camera breaks down light into its wavelength parts, rather like a prism separates colours in sunlight." (The Globe and Mail, Thursday, May 26, 1994)
Let us in the long run, replace the camera by a motor run by the ENERGY OF THE YEAR 2000, transforming the DARK MATTER from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. We would there by take advantage of the sequence of colored and colorless light speeds, so as to better visit the Universe, where law and order are transcendent, just as in democracy.
I have decided to write this letter because your leadership, Mr. President, like an inevitable and immeasurable energy, has practically absorbed me, allowing me to express myself.
On October 4, 1994, in the General Assembly of the United Nations, a voice echoed the power of your leadership. In new words, on March 31, 1995, that same voice will repeat:
"Even now, with the peaceful launching of the operation 'UPHOLD DEMOCRACY' on 19 September last year, a tropical smile has shed light upon the faces of those who espouse and love peace — Peacemakers, Peacekeepers, and Peacelovers. Together, President Clinton and we have managed to open up a 'tunnel of hope' after so much suffering."
That testimony by President Aristide at the U.N. emphasizes the magnitude of the efforts needed to bring about such a happy conclusion.
Your present trip to Haiti is the strongest confirmation of that sequence of events, and illustrates an unprecedented chapter in the annals of Haiti, as well as in the life of the Haitian people.
Thank you, Mr. President, for associating Haiti with your Strategic Development Initiative (S.D.I.) at the dawn of the "Star Peace".
Lucien Bonnet
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
PLEASE SEE "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"
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Posted by: Lucien BONNET | January 13, 2008 10:29 PM
Frank "bootylicious"? You are either showing your age or a Beyonce fan. The debate is about hip hop v the black community. Video vixens is the word you were looking for...
Oh yeah BET had a great debate on this, Hip Hop v America. Facing off execs professors rapers audience members to address the issues of hip hop..really good.
I did think he meant community as I was reading his statement. By the end of the sentence..I thought kind of unlikely..especially after he said I won't say what, but it's in the book. How coy?? Not.
Posted by: M&M | January 13, 2008 10:35 PM
Is there anything good on BET these days?
I haven't watched it much lately. Seems like VH1 is trying to steal some of their audience with all those reality shows like "Flavor of Love" and "I Love New York." Is that new Charlie Murphy show any good? He was awesome on "Chappelle's Show." I keep looking for it on the BET listings but can never find it.
Posted by: Jeff | January 13, 2008 10:36 PM
Thank you for pointing out the irony and down-right obsurdity of a Bob Johnson endorsement in the African American community. I guess Clinton's camp didn't get the memo that Black folk are protesting BET, advertisers, and getting shows cancelled off of the network. So much for Clinton's feminism -- Johnson is far from promoting positive images of women.
Posted by: Michelle | January 13, 2008 10:36 PM
Who is Johnson kidding? Of course he was talking about Obama's admitted drug use.
To me, as an American, I am frankly insulted that Johnson would imply that we are so stupid that we would think he was referring to Obama's community service and not his admitted drug use.
But I'll take Obama's admitted drug use to what Johnson has been selling to the black community on BET over the years. Obama's drug use hurt Obama; BET has poisoned the black community. And were he alive today, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. most certainly would be taking Johnson to task for it.
Posted by: Bud McFarlin | January 13, 2008 10:39 PM
Frank,
A well balanced, well researched and discerning bit of writing here. As a result, I felt better informed about what is going on here.
I am very uncomfortable with the Clintons not distancing themselves from the comments of Johnson.
I am also uncomfortable with Obama not distancing himself from the distorted interpretation of Hillary and Bill's words this week.
Obama could have shown great class if he had come to the Clinton's defense and the Clintons could have shown some class if they had not tried to turn it on Obama. It had nothing to do with Obama, it was their careless speaking that started this all up.
The Clintons flunked this test of character.
Posted by: Ernie Puto, Rosemont,, IL | January 13, 2008 10:40 PM
I really love the way Hillary and her supporters have beautifully played the racial fear notes from the Republican song book: the guy is black, the guy is a criminal, the guy will not work hard (only dream like MLK). Go Hillary!
Posted by: El Grande | January 13, 2008 10:40 PM
Clintons are just calling in their chips within the black community but the rich don't represent us,or the hanker chiefs,or lead you back to massa preachers
Posted by: mo | January 13, 2008 10:42 PM
First BET’s programming hasn’t always been as misogynistic and deviant as it has been in the last ten years. Having said that, Bob Johnson certainly doesn’t hold the moral high ground to make such comments about Obama or anyone else for that matter. The Clinton campaign is digging their own hole in South Carolina. I don’t think it’s one or two comments that will turn African American voters away. It’s the cumulative effect of several denigrating comments that she and her surrogates have made over the last few months. She’s fighting Obama as she would some Bush/Cheney republican and I personally find her tactics distasteful. Say what you want to about Obama and his substance and experience, but Hillary is setting a negative tone for this campaign and, god help us all, her eventual presidency.
Posted by: Concerned Voter | January 13, 2008 10:43 PM
Johnson then added: "And to me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood - and I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book - when they have been involved."
It doesn't get more stupid than this, what Johnson is saying is something I would expect a Republican or Paulo to say, not someone who is "supposed" to be a respected business man.
It sounds like the Clinton machine is getting desperate again.
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: John E | January 13, 2008 10:46 PM
I don't recall hearing or reading statements that Obama made concerning Senator Clinton's remarks about Martin Luther King, but there was plenty of criticism from the media and bloggers nationwide. If Obama criticized the Clinton's on this matter, they deserve it. And while Robert Johnson is still respected in some circles, he's got Obama all wrong. Obama does have a record of service. After heading the Harvard Law Review, Obama could have worked anywhere he wanted to, like Wall Street, or other places in corporate America. But he chose to be a community activist, earning a $20,000 a year salary. Senator Clinton took advantage of her law degree by going directly into corporate America. I wonder if this is part of the 35 years of experience that she claims to have serving nthe public? And the Clinton's are still stealing Obama's message while distorting his stances on national and policy positions. It proves that the Clinton's will do ANYTHING to win, including lying and Swiftboating opponents, and their main focus is Obama.
Posted by: ji_john | January 13, 2008 10:50 PM
who cares? i don't have cable. i don't watch BET. i couldn't pick the billionaire "big bobcat" out of a crowd. he is a friend of the clintons, so he comes out in support of hillary. big deal.
Posted by: not overly impressed | January 13, 2008 10:51 PM
This is why I cannot wait to vote for Barack Obama! I am tired and frustrated of Politics as usual and I consider myself an independent. I agree with some positions on both sides... the one thing I absolutely will not tolerate: any support whatsoever for misleading, manipulating, candidates -- no matter whose side they are on.
Posted by: Justin Wilkins, Chattanooga, TN | January 13, 2008 10:55 PM
Everything is out of content. The real issue is the Fairy Tale and Reality. Ask yourself, can a black man really win the White House? If Obama can prove to me that it is possible, then I would vote for him. But, so far, I have not heard any details on how he will achieve that. Hence, the Fairy Tale that Clinton was talking about. It is a real issue.
Posted by: Lou | January 13, 2008 10:56 PM
Well, Maybe Mr. Clyburn won't rebuke him, but I will.
Mr. Johnson, shame on you. One thing we don't need is people like you. You have forgotten your history. Your have forgotten your ancestors. you have forgotten Jackie Robinson and Joe Louis, and other African Americans whose contributions helped all the other African Americans. You don't get it, sir!
Obama is helping all the other African American by the sheer fact that he is a credible candidate for President of the United States of America. And my question for Hillary is: How old were you when you had your first African American friend, intimate friend?
Posted by: John Cain Connally | January 13, 2008 10:56 PM
The Clinton Swiftboat Tactics Escalate in Intense Campaign To Smear Obama:
Clintons' campaign tactics, right out of Carl, Dick and George playbook, have been pretty shocking of late.
We're talking events of a week and Clintons have the audacity to feed recent, uh, days-old, hours-old events to the Revise-History, Scorch-Earth, Didn't-Inhale Machine? And who's coming to dinner? Bob who?
So, last week, during the NH primary campaign when they were feeling pretty desperate with the polls and everything (you with me so far -- this is true, right? Happened? We all on the same page so far?), Bill appears at a campaign event and says Obama's story is a fairy tale. He can't make his wife taller, make her male, make her, well, Obama, Bill whines bitterly. Bill's very angry about this -- can't you see? You're missing something here -- read my lips, he whispers, "she's Female, come on!"
Then, shortly after Bill's remarks, Hillary herself says:
"Dr. King had been on the front lines. He had been leading a movement. But Dr. King understood, which is why he made it very clear, that there has to be a coming to terms of our country politically in order to make the changes that would last for generations beyond the iconic, extraordinary speeches that he gave. That's why he campaigned for Lyndon Johnson in 1964. That's why he was there when those great pieces of legislation were passed. Does he deserve the lion's share of the credit for moving our country and moving our political process? Yes, he does."
After Hillary basically says, "Hey Obama, don't give too much credit to what Dr. Martin Luther King dreamt of -- all this hope stuff is false. Yeah, let's not have "false hopes." I mean, MLB had to get Lyndon B. Johnson to do the real work, remember? Unlike what you think, that white man was really the one who got all the work done for your civil rights movement stuff."
Senator Obama in the meanwhile, stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.
The news sort of talk about these remarks by the Clintons. Sort of. There are other headline news. Clinton comes first in NH, and some people think it's because she almost cried, and she makes a speech and says, "Okay, I'll try and cry more often folks, should've listened to you a bit more carefully -- huh. THAT's what you wanted?"
Senator Obama still stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.
Then, uh uh, problems for the Clintons. Clyburn, the top ranking black politician, gets angry at the Clintons' remarks (and maybe he also got peeved at other vicious Clinton lies, e.g., Bill claiming he was against the war from the beginning when there's undisputed evidence of speeches he gave supporting Bush on Iraq war?). "You guys being racist here?" Clyburn wonders incredulously.
Senator Obama still stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.
So, the Clintons, who desperately need the black vote, then go on radio to Al Sharpton saying, "Hey, Obama is a great guy, he can win, no, no, no, he's no fairy tale."
Obama, in the meanwhile, still keeps quiet.
Hillary now goes on Meet the Press and says, "It's Obama's fault. He's been twisting my words, and oh my god, people, HE IS MAKING RACE AN ISSUE! AND I'M CRYING, SEE MY TEARS???"
So, Obama finally responds, "Uhm. You know, this is kinda fascinating to me. I mean, I didn't say a word? Did anyone hear me say anything about this?"
Nope, Senator. It's just the crazy Clintons again, and some crazy Americans believing the crap, as they do sometimes.
Sigh.
Posted by: commonsensepoliticstoday | January 13, 2008 11:06 PM
Wake up America, the Clintons are not good for this country. See what it's like now that they're back. They are dividing this country again. We don't need this. Mr. Johnson's comments were completely out of line. Obama has not been promoting this. It's been the media and talk radio. Roland Martin just said that on CNN tonight. He's gotten a lot of calls about it. The Clintons are trying to draw Obama into this.
Posted by: Carolyn Grace | January 13, 2008 11:12 PM
The Obama supporters played the race card and thought Hillary Clinton was going to quit. From Tim Russert on MTP with the first question being about race and the distorted MLK quote...which by the way I read the complete quote and she is completely correct.
So don't come crying now, when you see Bob Johnson expressing what many of us feel.
I'd loved his Sidney Poiter quote...that resounate in the Black community.
Posted by: Get it right | January 13, 2008 11:18 PM
I do not have a problem with a prominent person in the African-American community who supports some one other than Barack Obama for president if the reason for that person's support is/are based on issue(s). However, in the case of Bob Johnson, like many of the African-American politicians, it appears that their support has nothing to do with any issues but instead with a need or plan to beg for favor with the powerful establishment. It just reminds me of another modern day example of the "Willy Lynch" syndrome. The Clintons, like most politicians, have pimped the African-American community for years by feeding "us" imagery while we starve for substance.
Posted by: avgbrother | January 13, 2008 11:20 PM
Mr James,
Clinton and Obama aside, you have written the only article so farin the media that states the obvious: Johnson is a rich creep who earned his dough by currupting the morals of black youth. THANK YOU for informing those who have no idea who he is. He's been reported on as actually being someone important.
Posted by: Harrison | January 13, 2008 11:25 PM
Barack Obama MADE A STAND against the IRAQ invasion when it MATTERED !
Hillary Clinton played politics.
Everything else is just BUNK !
Posted by: PulSamsara | January 13, 2008 11:26 PM
Hillary Clinton's statments, as well as her husbands and her allies alike are indeed the old usual. they are based on the politcal mindset of four years ago when attacking your rival was in and real debating was out. but as Obama is concerned on the matter is he really much differnt? such as "If Senator Clinton wants to be distracted by the sorts of political point-scoring that was evident today then that is going to be her prerogative,"... well, isnt that an attack? isnt that very statment going against the very nature of that very same statment. if he really belived those words wouldnt he have just let them sit in his head.
so to critize Johnson or the Clintons for such arguments then you must do the same for Oboma, shouldnt you?
Posted by: Calder Gladstone | January 13, 2008 11:31 PM
Jhonson wants us to be slaves to the Clintons for life.The Clintons care only about themselves. I will rather vote Repablican even Juliani than the Fake Clintons.
Posted by: tewal | January 13, 2008 11:32 PM
"So he wants us to believe the invidious comparison he was making contrasting the Clintons to Obama was to say that Obama was a community organizer when the Clintons were advancing civil-rights?"
Invidious? A bit hyperbolic don't you think, Swamp.
What's invidious is Obama's church's philosophy:
"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization....A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA."
Visit Trinity's website at http://www.tucc.org/about.htm.
I don't think Obama is in a position to label Hillary a racist. And I think the word "invidious" is misplaced when referring to Obama's past drug use. Obama's religious philosophy runs completely counter to inclusiveness and is therefore much more INVIDIOUS -- and hypocritical.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 13, 2008 11:35 PM
Both of those are factually correct.
Answer me this. Were the Clintons already fighting for civil rights even while Obama was still sniffing coke in the streets?
There are two points to this argument. 1) At that time, both Clintons were fighting for civil rights. and 2) B.O. was a cocaine and drug addict. If both 1 and 2 are true, then Bob Johnson was not lying.
And if he was telling the truth, why are you guys angry at him? For telling the truth?
Posted by: FJ Stratford | January 13, 2008 11:38 PM
Quite frankly, I am embarrassed by Mr. Johnson's comments. Clearly he owes the Obama campaign an apology. Check the sources; Obama never raised race as an issue. It was the Clintons with the Martin Luther King, Jr. statement in New Hampshire. It seems to me that they are deploying the tactics used on McCain in 2000 by Bush, implying that McCain fathered an illegitimate "black" child. Supporters of Bush circulated this mess after losing in New Hampshire by 19 points. Clearly the Clinton's wants to pull Obama into the race game�hope it backfires.
Posted by: K Eldridge | January 13, 2008 11:46 PM
Nobody is going to believe his crackpot explanation. Good job of pointing this out in a very good article. I used to be a Clinton supporter, but lately, she has just been attacking Obama and Dr. King like none other ("it took a president to get it done"). I have now switched my support to Obama.
Posted by: Marc | January 13, 2008 11:48 PM
Both Big Cat and Magic Johnson, were given deals by the Clinton machine in the nineties. Magic created his movie theatres and RJ had BET. Politcal favors are owed by both. sell outs.
Posted by: Mark | January 13, 2008 11:57 PM
"The Obama supporters played the race card and thought Hillary Clinton was going to quit."
No one played the race card, just Hillary has all of a sudden come down with diarrhea of the mouth.
"which by the way I read the complete quote and she is completely correct."
Correct how? Even if she wasn't belittling the leaders i the civil rights struggle, which she was, her history is rather skewed. LBJ didn't pass civil rights legislation because it was in his heart to d so, he had to.
"I'd loved his Sidney Poiter quote...that resounate in the Black community."
Then you are painfully ignorant about the black community - citing a movie that was made more than 40 years ago really resonates. Idiot.
Posted by: HumanityCritic | January 13, 2008 11:58 PM
I feel so ashamed I was a Clinton supporter for years.
Posted by: tomdc | January 13, 2008 11:59 PM
Looks like South Carolina is going to be more than a slugfest between two candidates. It is going to become, mark my word, a battleground between African American factions. Divide and conquer is always an important strategy in warfare and one that has worked very well many times. The Clintons are dividers at a time when America is looking for unity. Black America is very diverse, but most have a sense of pride in the achievements that they have made against incredible odds. Obama is seen as the product of all the marching, fire hoses, sit ins, and demonstrations that were intended to open doors. A door opened for anyone who prepared himself and Obama has taken up the challenge. There may be some Blacks who resent his being the one, are jealous, and will never support him.
Some in the Black community, and in the country in general, feel that he has not earned the position that he is in, that he has not been tested, scarred by struggle, tempered by suffering in the manner of Martin L. King and others. I think the Black Caucus feels threatened that they may be driven into extinction.
But others, even Obama himself, believe that he stands on the shoulders of those who did suffer and bleed. These divisions in the Black community seem really strange. It seems as though most ethnic groups in America would rally unanimously behind one of their members who had this opportunity, and would be overjoyed at the message he brings of hope uniting people. But the big barrier to that, at this point, is the Clinton mystique and perhaps some political debts that have become due.
Posted by: GW | January 14, 2008 12:08 AM
Why should Rep. James Clyburn need to come out and actually endorse Obama? He's made his feelings clear enough - connect the dots.
Of course Robert Johnson meant drug use. He's as busy rewriting history as the Clintons are.
What I'm still trying to figure out is why the Clintons think Johnson is some sort of prize catch to have supporting their campaign. Or was he the ONLY African-American willing to support them after that ridiculous slur about fine speeches (incl. I Have a Dream) being totally useless without a white President to sign a law? (Hillary REALLY doesn't get it if she thinks she can talk her way out of that one.)
You know what, Hillary? The first two letters of 'President' don't refer to being a slick Public Relations kind of person. We want substance, and substance we can believe in. That would be Barack Obama.
Posted by: Tom J | January 14, 2008 12:15 AM
Seriously, does anybody know what's on BET these days? I can't form an opinion on whether or not Johnson's being a hypocrite here.
Posted by: Jeff | January 14, 2008 12:17 AM
and about this business regarding references to obama's drug use---while i wouldn't go there for tactial reasons if i were hillary, the fact is that people whaled on bill clinton like anything over his youthful pot smoking. he weaseled about it, sure, but just because obama admitted his (and anyone who thinks that admission was not a tactical move is an idiot), doesn't mean it is somehow off-limits and tasteless to bring it up. the question isn't whether it's beyond the pale---it is not, it is fair game, that is, if you are sure it won't backfire on you. but that is different from its somehow being dirty or below the belt to allude to it, which is how the obama people are acting. bank on it---the republicans won't hesitate to make all the hay they can with it.
Posted by: elizabeth bennett | January 14, 2008 12:23 AM
How about reporting whatever it is that Obama said/did to get dragged into all this mess? Are we all to take Hillary's word, that it's Obama's fault, or can someone site examples of Obama "distorting" Hillary's statements? In other words- What the hell is Hillary talking about? She brought all this on herself. She's trying to drag an innocent bystander (Obama) into the cross fire.
Posted by: jds | January 14, 2008 12:23 AM
As stated so eloquently above, Obama did nor said nothing following Clintons MLK remarks to infuse race into the statement. Clinton evidently concerned about the pundits preoccupation with the issue decided to put the Clinton spin machine in motion to try to prevent any irreparable harm. Sorry Hillary, I feel this may backfire and come back to bite you.
J. Reese - Los Angeles
Posted by: J. Reese | January 14, 2008 12:27 AM
"tragic mistake" [by Johnson]...
"save them" [Hillary and
Bill Clinton]...
These white bread boy Repugs
sure know how to keep their
torches afire as they barnstorm news (sic) blogs
nationwide. Remember 2000!!
Posted by: ABE | January 14, 2008 12:28 AM
no credibility with the target community
Posted by: mo | January 14, 2008 12:29 AM
who ever wins they will have MAJOR problems . poor mr or mrs next president
wonder how much Bill and Hill paid BETs Rob Johnson
Posted by: rawdawgbuffalo | January 14, 2008 12:29 AM
if you are white and dont agree with obama, you are racist. if you are black and dont agree with obama, you are racist. this is terrifying. johnson should be able to back anyone he wants. this should not be a race issue. obama is a divider. I sincerely hope he does not get elected.
Posted by: bren | January 14, 2008 12:31 AM
Not to be negative, but
let us not forget:
1) Bill Clinton smoked pot, and Hillary didn't send her attack dogs after him;
2) Bill Clinton compromised the Democrat's ability to run on moral values by demonstrating his lack of them...remember Monica???...while Hillary stood by, biding her time, so that she could run for President;
3) Bill Clinton sat by and allowed 1 million black people to die in the Rwandan genocide, but rushed to intervene in the Bosnian genocide (even there, he was slow, but he got there);
4) What did Bill Clinton ever do for black people other than lace his language with MLK quotes? Did your schools get better? Did the criminal justice system treat you more fairly? Did your health care improve? NO.
So, do you really want a return to the Clinton era?
Posted by: Vickie | January 14, 2008 12:55 AM
I can't believe these people making all these statements to hurt Obama, and especially someone of his own race. I am a white female and I am voting for Obama. Hillary would never get a vote from me. She is so self centered ane only wants power and attention.
If she can't be the center of attraction she cries her crocodile tears. I will vote Republican if she gets the nomination.
Posted by: Elaine | January 14, 2008 1:01 AM
Robert Johnson has done so much for black America. He has helped promote violent and overly crass rap music which has helped our young black men and women to emulate the behavior they've seen on his network, resulting in higher incarceration, out-of-wedlock births, and other accomplishments. He has done a lot for himself at the expense of other black people.
Posted by: TVV | January 14, 2008 1:24 AM
Let us remind this country that Mr Clinton is given to wagging his finger at the country when he plans on laying a whopper on us, as in "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". He used the same tone and motions in denouncing "Give me a break, Obama is telling the biggest fairly tale of my life". I desperately want Obama to write a fairly tale of how he won the White House, so we can be rid of the lecturing and manipulations by the Clintons.
Just as the second Bush president has proven a lot more costly for this country, so will a second Clinton presidency. I cannot recall a single thing from the Clinton years of 1992-2000 that make me yearn for a second bout of the mania. The country became more divided through numerous scandals and denials. Mr Bush has appointed more blacks to senior positions in his cabinet than Mr Clinton ever did - so give me a break about all this commitment of the Clintons to Black Americans.
Posted by: Chani | January 14, 2008 1:26 AM
I dont understand(and being a white guy probably is the reason) an african american can allude to both Obama's drug use AND Sidney Poitier in the same breath, and then basically state a blatent attack on Obama's total 1 hour of legislative service to our country and not a word from Jesse or Al? Man. If a white television/radio personality had used EITHER of those terms in public, there would be some hell raising somewhere!
Posted by: drew | January 14, 2008 1:46 AM
would somebody explain the clintons history on civil rights.I know they rewarded civil rights leaders for delivering the black vote
Posted by: mo | January 14, 2008 1:57 AM
But there is no history of the clintons marching or going to jail for black peoples ciivl rights,no legislation,during 8 years in office the only black issue they addressed was throwing black children off aid for dependent children and apoligizing for sitting on his hands while 3 million africans got killed in genocide(i don;t count naming ron brown economic czar because we did not benefit and he got nnder mysterious circumstances in bosnia
Posted by: mo | January 14, 2008 2:09 AM
Marc, Clinton did not say that it took a president to get it done. She said it took a WHITE president to get it done. Now why did she say that? When a person becomes president we don't say a white President or a Catholic President (Kennedy) or a southern President, or an English president, or any other type so why use the word "white president". And also I keep seeing the Clintons...not Clinton. So tell me does that mean both of the Clintons are running for president and there will be a co-President? And then in the past they say Obama was not planning on running for president and then they say he has always been planning on running for president. If he has always been planning on running for president, then would he be doing drugs? And think, how many different presidents in the past had something shady in their life before being president? But they were good presidents and did a lot for the country. How many of you never broke a law? Did you take a drink of alcohol before you turned of age? Drive a car with no license? you broke the law. Sin is sin is sin is sin. :-)
Posted by: JJ | January 14, 2008 2:13 AM
I was actually surprised by Bob Johnson's comments today, I didn't think that members Hillary Clinton's campaign nor her campaign surrogates would want to touch on this issue again as it didn't appear to have much traction or positive effects for that matter when they attempted to draw attention to it before. You would think that when she allowed supporters to speak on her behalf she would inform them that there are a few issues they should refrain from addressing since it would cast aspersions on her campaign and her motives. I guess that's not the case though. It would appear she feels this is a viable political avenue. She is wrong.
I only wonder if she felt that those pseudo-veiled criticisms worked in her favor in New Hampshire and therefore they would work in South Carolina. I view that as flawed logic since the demographics of southern states require an entirely different strategy and a different tact. I have to admit though, as a black American I am beginning to grow tired with the snide remarks and negative campaigning coming from the Clinton camp. Do I support Barack Obama, yes. But it isn't due to the color of his skin but the fact that he has highlighted many of the issues I have felt impairs our nation and has limited our promise. It’s becoming more and more difficult to keep the Clinton campaigns ambitions in perspective as time goes on however, not due to the color of Obama’s skin, but because there have been so few viable national candidates who were black that not many people are accustomed to seeing them assaulted in such a public way.
Somewhat surprisingly, what I've been observing lately is that friends and family who are not especially political at all are beginning to catch wind of the statements that Hillary and Bill, and now Bob has made and they are starting to take personally what is now being perceived as underhanded tactics to derail a practical black candidate. If I live in New York and her tactics are starting to take a toll, I can only imagine the effect it is beginning to have in South Carolina.
Posted by: Ozone | January 14, 2008 2:16 AM
their civil rights history is a fairytale told by those who will profit when they get in
Posted by: Anonymous | January 14, 2008 2:17 AM
every one knows you do not have to reward the black man for his vote,just throw the civil rights leaders some bones and the preachers some scraps to fight over
Posted by: mo | January 14, 2008 2:21 AM
benefitting from your vote blackman(andrew jackson,vernon jordan,the other jackson,you could name big time preachers for days,the same ones he called for when he got caught fornicating and told the lie that he did not know the definition of sex,but they stand in the pulpit every sunday telling the little man he's going to hell for lying and fornification,shame,shame,shame
Posted by: mo | January 14, 2008 2:30 AM
While Hillalry is not my favorite candidate, to call Johnson a liar is presumptuous on the parts of those who are saying he lied.
By the time the various campaigns finish antagonizing each other with their allegations the Republicans or Independents will walk away with thie General Election.
Posted by: Roxie | January 14, 2008 2:47 AM
Shrug it off. Just more rot
from the Clinton camp.
Posted by: Jerry Scroggin | January 14, 2008 5:00 AM
I wonder what skeletons are hiding in Bob Johnson's closet!
But wait, he wasn't "alluding" to drug use was he. Whatever...
Posted by: Scott in the South Loop | January 14, 2008 5:10 AM
What did the Clintons promise Johnson to turn traitor and trash the black candidate?
What's in it for him?
Posted by: Earnest | January 14, 2008 7:31 AM
This is purposeful mis-communications by the Hillary Clinton camp. Hillary made comments. Afterwards, Black leaders in South Carolina who are not Clinton supporters, as well as, a prominent congressmen from that area raised the issue that Hillary was mis-categorizing the importance of MLK and his work or diminishing his crusade. Then, Rev., Al Sharpton got on board( of course). However, Mr. Obama nor were his camp involved in this. However, the Press( what would we do without the press) blew this up nationally. Then, of course they would: they asked Mr. Obama what did he think of Clinton's comments. Another thing: These same Black leaders in South Carolina were upset that Bill Clinton categorized Mr. Obama's campaign success as "fairytale". They took it to mean that Mr. Clinton was actually saying because Obama is black he did not have a chance to win so black supporters should abandon him and vote for Hillary.
The people though are misinformed at this point. Now, folks are angry at Obama and are accusing him of starting this controversy when he had nothing to do with it. Hillary feels he did only because since she has increased her attacks on him since he seems to be a threat to her nomination, I feel she overreacted and just assumed because of Mr. Obama, the controversy has exacerbated. This is not a racial issue but I feel the media is making it into one. As a voter this doesn't bother me. I'm Black and out of all the candidates I like them in this order: John Edwards, then, Ron Paul. Hillary and Obama are both tied for third. I believe the best president would be Ron Paul; next John Edwards. I do believe that building our economy up from the bottom to top or having concern for the bottom is where the governments focus should be. From the top down has not worked for the last 25 years. I am disappointed in Hillary. I feel, she feels that she has an "entitlement" to the white house because of her pedigree and she looks down on Obama. Obama like President Lincoln is a "self-made" man. 7 years ago he was just a struggling middle class state senator. He has never been a big cat.
Posted by: Mr. Black Sociologist | January 14, 2008 7:42 AM
He lied and tried to smooth it over, which is impossible to do. The Clinton's have a WEALTHY LIAR stumping for them on the campaign trail.
Posted by: T.M. Abbott | January 14, 2008 8:26 AM
Bob Johnson’s creation of BET is absolutely nothing to be proud of.
In fact I would say that he has contributed to the negative stereotypes portrayed on television in regards to Afro Americans….
BET has been a sick disease slowly killing our young for too long and this smiling and grinning man is the cause of it… New Era Bobby… you mean nothing to our community.
I am sad that the Clintons have tried to race bait Obama in an effort to cause division between blacks and whites, this is a cruel and dirty trick that I am sure the American people will not stand for…especially the educated and the young.
What other reason could she possibly have in bringing Dr King into this… other than to cause some form of racial tension…
In the past my family were big fans of the Clintons …after this weekend I must admit the hatred for them could not be stronger
Posted by: Drae | January 14, 2008 9:55 AM
Who does Bob Johnson think he really is? I believe his negative comments about Senator Barak Obama have hurt Hillary's campaign more than helped. I too, am an African American; and I happen to be a woman. People like Bob Johnson should walk softly because this negative rhetoric to me, mean that he is once again unsupportive of Blace struggling communities -certainly his record proves my point. He has made some accomplishments on the back of African Americans- BET. So now he is on the campaign trail in support of a White woman who once supported Senator Goldwater. How can she have any questions/comments about Obama's fight for justice in America.
Hillary Clinton should have NEVER gone the Dr. Martin Luther King path. I equate my father, my husband, my brother and any other Black/White man who fought for and are still fighting for justice for all. So Barak Obama was in his rights to consider himself as an equal to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Hillary Clinton, with the help of Bob Johnson, has just lost my vote. And I will work as hard as I can for Barak Obama's campaign for the President of this United States. Hilliary had better stop riding on her husband's coat tail. Yes, Bill Clinton worked for justice. He did not do anything special for African Americans. Hilliary praised Lyndon Johnson for our Civil Rights gain. Who is she trying to fool. Whether Lyndon Johnson signed those bills into laws or not, the people had chosen to have civil rights with laws on books or not, and Lyndon Johnson knew it. So, he didn't do anything so special for people. How can Hilliary be so thankful to Lyndon Johnson for signing civil rights laws, when those rights were already a part of the U. S. Constitution? Thank you Bob Johnson, you wonderful, Black, smart man for helping me make this crucial decision. I will vote for Barak Obama.
Posted by: B. Martin | January 14, 2008 10:42 AM
Robert Johnson is a disgrace...this whole situation is very upsetting- howver, I think the bigger story here is not mudslinging - its the fact that the Clinton Machine has been unleashed and it is hell bent on ensuring that this will not be a fair election. She knows she cant win fairly, so shes doing everything in her power to hurt Obama and his constituencey. While the mudslining is bad- I'm outraged at the Clintonian efforts of voter disinfranchisement. They began in NH and are now continuing vis a vis this Teacher's union lawsuit in Vevada. The Clinton's need to be taken to task on this- so I ask all of you who are willing to please flood the blogs with this link:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/12/taken_for_granite.html
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/12/taken_for_granite.html
Posted by: Tracey | January 14, 2008 12:06 PM
Robert Johnson's refrences to "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" are repulsive. I would not have a problem with Robert Johnson if he criticized Barack Obama on the content of his character. But no, Johnson first looks at the color of Obama's skin, then looks at the way he talks and acts and makes a judgement. When will we refuse wholeheartedly be colorblind in this country?
Posted by: Eddie Crise | January 14, 2008 12:10 PM
No Mr Johnson we are not stupid..when you sold the "black" BET to whites i stopped listening to you at that time..It was your choice to go for the money and thats your right..But don't think you have any influence over the educated, logical thinking, and common sense black americans. The whole problem is that the Clinton's thought we would follow them like sheep headed to slaughter..But i'd would rather follow my own people than follow some carcasian female..She said what she said and it's her fault..not Obama's..Hillary and Bill just need to stick to the issues and leave race alone..Because as Bob Johnson said we are not "STUPID"...GO OBAMA !!!
Posted by: ron | January 14, 2008 12:20 PM
What Robert Johnson did was INEXCUSABLE!!!! I am so disgusted with this man I could scream!!! The mere fact that Hillary did not repudiate his awful comments is PROOF!! Black People do not be fooled by this woman!! She had no idea that Obama would be so powerful and so well accepted by ALL RACES!! Vote OBAMA!!!!
Posted by: Gregory, NYC | January 14, 2008 12:31 PM
So is the 'vast left winf conspiracy' attacking Clinton or Obama?
Posted by: Perch Rapala | January 14, 2008 12:36 PM
It is tragic that instead of making history, Democratic primary may end up as an ugly page in American history. But the blame is with Clinton. She first played gendre card by tearing up in NH and won. Now she is playing the race card. Obama wants to run a positive campaign from the beginning and inspires voters to come from all parties, all gendres and all ages. I am a registered republican, but have decided to re-register as an independent to vote for Obama. In him I see hope for our nation and the common people. In him I see a candidate of all people, all gendres and all races, not of one race and one gendre. He has inspired lots of young people to participate and to join the Democratic Party.
Within such a short time, Obama took the Democratic Party and the nation by storm and shook the decade-long Clinton political empire. They never imagined their sure bet for the White House would end in a race with an unknown "kid" called "Obama". In despreration, they have resorted to playing the old political games and spins they are good at at the expense of Democratic Party, which may eventually lose the general election if the Clintons steal the nomination by dealing the dirty cards. Lots, lots of voters like myself, will not vote for Clinton if she uses these dirty tricks to win the nomination. Lots of us will vote for an independent such as Bloomberg or a republican like McCain if it comes to that.
For her own win, Clinton uses the race card to divide the nation. Instead of embracing such a historical progress in our nation and competing with Obama fair and square, it is sad the Clintons resorted to flaring up race issue. I am sure Iowa people judged Obama as the best candidate, not based on his color of skin. They looked beyond his skin color and saw his talent, his message of unity and the hope he brings to this nation. I just pray American people will continue to judge all the candidates in the same way, not obscured by the race smoke or gendre tears flared up by the Clintons. I wish the American people can review all the facts and avoid being blinded by gendre tears or facial smoke.
Posted by: Ling Y. | January 14, 2008 12:38 PM
I see the Obama stans are out in full force. Some questions raised.
Why is it that a black man who has made it to become a millionaire, in what really is a white male dominated industry, is a "sell out" and a black man who has made it to run for president, in what is a white male dominated industry, is the one? Why is it that one is perceived to have sold out and the other carries the cross for the black community when they both did what they needed to do in order to break a mold- break a mold for the black community (dictated by the respective industry they are in)? In the black community every man and woman carries the burden- as marginalized as they are I don't know how they can afford to marginalize themselves, their success.
If it is hypocritical for Johnson to speak to Obama's drug use, why is it not hypocritical of Obama to speak to the poor image set for the black community by Johnson's network? They both have marketed the same message to youth. It is of little to no importance that one grew out of it. The message to youth,while they are youth, is everybody does it when their my age.
One step up- If it is hypocritical of Johnson to speak specifically to Obama's drug use, as most youth (whites and blacks) experiment with drug use, why is it not hypocritical of Obama to speak specifically to the poor image set for the black community by Johnson's network, as most media (run by whites and black) sets a poor image for the black community. In case you missed it- Flavor of Love and I Love New York are not on BET. New Orleans- Fox CNN AMC NBC - whites portrayed as "making due with Katrina" and blacks were portrayed as "stealing and lifting."
Oprah (more comparative industry) and Obama did not sell out, but Johnson did. Someone like Oprah and Obama are carrying the burden for the black community, Johnson did not. Oprah and Obama faced obstacles and struggle in a white male dominate indusrty (and society) just like MLK, Johnson did not. The only conclusion I get is that black success will only be accepted by whites AND blacks if it meets white America standards for a "good and proper black." God forbid should a black man act out of character. And "by out of character" in the media industry that means push what white execs push in order to make it, to be chastised for it. Stranger than fiction.
Some food or thought. The media glamorizes vice. Hip hop glamorizes vice. You can pull the plug out on the media and BET. That will not pull the plug on the problems that plague the black community.
Posted by: M&M | January 14, 2008 12:46 PM
While we argue what this controversy means my view is this: A vote for Obama is a anti-Clinton vote more than it is a Pro-Obama for President vote. I don't think the American people want Bill pulling Hillaries strings for 4 years and seeing all those old Bill clinton cabinet members in Hillaries new cabinet. If Hillary wins the Democratic Nomination she will lose. The anti-Hillary white voters will put the Democratic ballot aside and vote for John McCain, the War Veteran and old salty but statesmen Senator. Obama voters will back lash Hillary and cross over too. Because of this, I feel the "Diamond in the rough" and overlooked guy who could win is John Edwards. What kind of country are we living in when the Mass Media has made this a two candidate race between Hillary and Obama.
Posted by: Mr. Black Sociologist | January 14, 2008 1:01 PM
This is exactly what those who are running scared wanted to do... get black folks all incensed and start attacking each other... well we wont have any of this... we refuse to allow this race to become embroiled in a petty, name calling... he said, she said nonsense... My advice to Barack Obama is to stay away from the stupidity. The worse thing is to get caught up in the racial mudslinging and turn off so many viewers who have already looked past your skin color to your character and abilities... this is Bill and Hillary's style of politics... dont let it become yours!!!!!!!
Posted by: nerakami | January 14, 2008 1:29 PM
I believe that Mr. Johnson is a clear example of which the Mis-education of the Negro describes. The comments that were made about Barack Obama were extremely ignorgant! In my opinion, Hillary Clinton is very intimidated by Barack Obama, and cannot believe he is having the success that he is!
Posted by: Tanisha Johnson | January 14, 2008 2:10 PM
Bob johnson is a Clinton Negro Sock Pupet.
VOTE OBAMA!
Posted by: Kirk | January 14, 2008 2:46 PM
I personally consider what Johnson did with BET one of the most vile frauds ever perpetrated on Black America. He controlled Black Entertainment Television and preceeded to show nothing but hip hop videos showing our young men degrading themselves and the young women around them.
Now, with his comments about Mr. Obama, I take it that he somehow holds yourself up of as a pillar of black society. Please. He should just go away.
Posted by: Curtis Dugger | January 14, 2008 3:57 PM
Alright you all win. I'm speaking generally and figuratively. If you don't measure up to criteria, change the criteria. I feel much better now that the military could not fit its quota, so they lowered their criteria. Why was I or any one else taking a stab at that before? Brilliant. The presidential position should come with "No experience required" under it.
I liked what someone, ?Brian?, on another threat posted, competence. That's what we should be looking for- competence. That takes evaluating ideas through experience, and experience through ideas. Instead this ridicules presidential race is boxed to see who has the least amount of "Washington credentials" and best image to run this country. Hell, my barber thinks we need a change. He's volunteered at a homeless shelter. Never been to Wasington DC. Great talker----
Now I'm not surprised Bush JR made it in the first place. He was a regular Obama. He was simple, straight, average. The farthest thing from Washington you can get. A Texican. Ranch, horse manure, and even America's beloved past time -baseball. New developments and little conservative gated communities. He spoke simple to us. We related. He was that guy at the bar. We gave him a chance. After Bill Clinton we wanted less pompous and circumstance. Less Washington. We got it. That worked out well. Image v substance.
I hope those around Obama, and who Obama will surround himself will have no experience; no Washington time on their hands. In that respect, counsel from Brzezinski and that Colin Powel guy look suspicious to me- so does his entire DNC political staff.
If you want Obama as President start talking about competence. That involves evaluating ideas though experience and experience though ideas, every candidate every time. Show people that Obama does have something under his belt to boot, actions and words. The more time is spent on this ridicules no experience required for change, the less Obama becomes a realistic viable candidate for change. American Idol yes. POTUS, no.
Posted by: dot | January 14, 2008 4:11 PM
Of better yet, Let HRC explain her indiscretion as a "Goldwater" campaign girl. Remember Goldwater was a Civil Rights opponent. So err goes HRC comment that she has fought for Civil Rights all of her life.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 14, 2008 4:39 PM
I am glad to see that a majority of those who post after articles about this sad turn of events are not duped by Hillary's race-baiting. Hopefully this carries to the public at large, though there is no way to tell yet. Those who are fooled, please look up the facts - you will find that Obama was never behind attacks against Hillary's racist comment, and only commented when asked to directly. His comments on the incident showed trust in the people to judge the comment for themselves. I am a white woman, and a lifelong democrat, and will not vote for Hillary ever, I will stay home in the general, because I cannot stand the way she is running this campaign. Depending on who the GOP candidate is I may go vote against her in the general if it comes to that. Let's hope for all of us it doesn't.
Posted by: vegangypsie | January 14, 2008 5:06 PM
I believe the preferred nomenclature is black or African-American... negro is something from the early 1900s...
I thought anonymous comments "will not be posted?"
Of better yet, Let HRC explain her indiscretion as a "Goldwater" campaign girl. Remember Goldwater was a Civil Rights opponent. So err goes HRC comment that she has fought for Civil Rights all of her life.
Posted by: Anonymous | January 14, 2008 4:39 PM
Posted by: Jeff | January 14, 2008 5:08 PM
For American Blacks to forefeit the opportunity to have a bright, competant and willing Black man as the Commander in Chief and Leader of the free world is scandalous, even pathetic. We as Black voters are capable of doing it. The power lies with the voters and many White Americans are foregoing their exclusive allegiences to White candidates, and expressing their none-racist stances in support of CHANGE that I’m sure for many of them is taking a great leap of faith. Why can’t we do the same? Why do we have to be the ones to question it like it’s a luxury that comes often in life?
I am appauled, disappointed and indignant with Bob Johnson's vitriolic remarks and ABJECT COWARDICE to even admit to what was quite apparent to anyone with common sense. That he inaccurately accused Senator Obama of implying that Black supporters of the Clintons were “stupid,” (a word Obama would never use about the American people) then give valed reference to something Obama was ‘doing in the neighborhood’ that Johnson, for some strange reason would not repeat, ‘but it’s in the book’ he said, only to then lie about what he inferred, as if saying Obama as a community activist was some secret unworthy of mention was any better, is a prime example of hypocracy 101.
Even if one gave his weak explanation the benefit of the doubt it is still very, very strange that he would regard Barack Obama’s community activism as “less than” what the Clinton’s were doing at same time by dismissing it as an unmentionable thing.
I hope the endorsements of Congressman Al Wynn, Maryland lawmaker Rep. Elijah Cummings, and doubtless other (Rep. Clyburn?) Congressional Black Caucus members, to which Mr. Johnson has strong ties and heavy fiancial investments, sticks in his racial instigating crawl.
Instead of simply supporting Senator Clinton in the healthy spirit of competition, he didn’t have the wherewithall to be civil and use the decorum befitting a leader, but instead took low rated jabs at Senator Barack Obama, which speaks volumes about his character despite his wealth.
I’m filled with repugnance for the billionaire whose convinced me that his lying words aren’t worth a dime.
Posted by: T.M. Abbott | January 14, 2008 7:58 PM
Uncle Bob's at it again. He's a billionare because of affirmative action, connections, and working the political system. Just like he did to launch BET. He was so apossed to other Black-Owned TV/Cable broadcasters. But,'he's "Black and Proud".
Now, his RLJ Cos. stand to gain quite a bit if the Clintons win this election. So if the Clintons use a rich Black man to attack Senator Obama.... Well, well, what a "smart" strategy. Give us a brake!
Based on his comments and self serving history, I'm calling for a buycott of ALL of Robert L. Johnson's businesses.. Hotels, Programming,Banking, Just like the Civil-Rights bus buycotts (just much longer)... Hit him below the belt....Yeah in his FAT wallet. Okay Uncle Bob, you got us good... When Senator Obama wins the Democratic nomination, just keep your campaign contributions.
I'm sure the connected Clintons have a few more sweet deals waiting for YOU. Cause you just earned them.
Go Uncle Bob! Go!
Posted by: Mike Jones | January 14, 2008 8:04 PM
I am appauled by Johnson's comments about Obama. Those comments follow a long and profitable history of crippling the black community through horrifying racism and sexism on BET. The world was watching the whole time, watching black folk embarrass themselves while Johnson profited millions of dollars. Clinton should never have allowed such a man to join her camp. Obama '08!
Posted by: Kamilah Henderson | January 14, 2008 9:42 PM
First of all we have no proof that the Obama campaign has distorted anything. This is the Clinton's attempt to not talk about the real issues of their comments by pointing the finger to someone else and changing the subject. Obama's campaign did not remark on their statement, this story is about what the Clintons said about MLK. Choosing a black man to vilify Obama is what's been happening since the slave days, going to Africa and finding another African to sell the other africans into slavery. I liked the Clintons but do not condescend our race by assuming that we are too stupid to realize this is about your comments Not Obama's. Clarify and focus on the issues
Posted by: Frank | January 14, 2008 11:36 PM
I agree with the statements made by Mike Jones (above), as well. Find out what Bob Johnson's business interests are, and boycott the hell out them. The Clintons have shown that this is how they wish to speak to us, for their campaign effort. Bob Johnson. OMG, to hell with this man. Think "Uncle Ruckus" from the BOONDOCKS and there you have it - "Bob [Step-N-Fetch-It] Johnson ".
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Posted by: CHROMEANGEL | January 15, 2008 6:55 PM
Hold everything! President Clinton "did not inhale" when he used to smoke dope. Maybe Barack Obama did not inhale, either. (Tongue in cheek comment, if you please.) I want to vote for Mr. Obama!
Posted by: Preacher Lady | January 18, 2008 3:57 PM
Can I order a full copy of the speech given by Senator Hillary Clinton?
Thanks!
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Lauran Sturp:
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Posted by: sweis | March 26, 2008 2:25 AM
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