Rangel: no awkwardness about opposing Obama

Of course not.

1. Rangel's from NY.

2. Rangel is all about what's in it for Rangel.

But the question itself reminds the reader of the racial undertones taken by the media recently. To wit...

Obama is expected to win SC because half the Democratic voters are black. This presupposes that most blacks will vote for Obama and Edwards will shear off enough white votes to give Obama the victory.

In brief, blacks are bigoted and can be presumed to vote for Obama.

Yet Hill is polling better among blacks than Obama is among whites.

So apparently whites aren't as willing to support a non-white candidate (IA being the exception) than the media would have us believe?

NH and Nevada showed that whites are the real bigots in this election. But if Obama loses in SC, you can bet the media won't lay the blame at the foot of the white vote.

no rangel, you are not an uncle tom

you're just a sellout

but let's follow rangel's color blind example and get the white men and women to vote obama

white folks, just say no to hilLIARy and the divisiveness cycle

hilLIARy is bad for your country

Hillary will be handicapped. She will be unable to govern. Republicans hate the Clintons the way Democrats hate Bush. She will divide this country and even divide her party. Replacing one partisan with another represents zero change. Unless we have a 90s-esque dotcom boom the Clintons will have no impact on the economy. Only a united country, a united congress can get things done. Gridlock in Washington wont do it. That is the best Clinton offers is gridlock.
Also, she is not a trustworthy person. You can count on her to say only what will advance her political career. You cannot count on her to say and do what is RIGHT. In 2002 it was popular to be for the war..so she was for it. In 2006 it was popular to be against the war so now she is against it. Get my drift. Just because someone gets elected by political gaming doesnt mean she is the right choice. Swiftboating got Bush elected but our democracy produced poor leadership. It makes you question the system. I never donated time to politics before..but this last month I did. Obama INSPIRES PEOPLE TO ACTION. Hillary cannot and has not done the same.

Still no cure for the awkwardness of being Charlie Rangel.

I believe most people understand why all these black politicans from New York are voting for her. She has no doubt promised them certain favors, after all she is the senator from New York. By the way she does not have as much experience as Obama, He was an Illinois senator for eight years. How long as she held public office. It's not just educated people who get the point, we understand Rangels politics very well. He's a typical example why we need a new type of leader. People of NY if you don't want him speaking for you, "vote him out."

Bottom Line:

Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See: http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm

“HR 676:
For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills.”

But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress twice.

But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!

We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.

I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven't forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it's her.

Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.

The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.

As always, African Americans are suffering, and dieing in this health care crisis at a much higher rate than any other group in America. The last time there was any significant drop in the African American death rate was when Bill Clinton was president.

My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all... You are doing great!

Sounds like Rangel has turned into an Oreo cookie.

To me Obama comes off as an empty head with a lot of nice words. Hillary comes off like she can govern, more concrete. These are just my feelings. I wish them the both the BEST, even though I am rooting for my girl.

Wow. And the Obama supporters claim they're not injecting race into the discussion. Saying that with a straight face after this comment takes stones.

"Sounds like Rangel has turned into an Oreo cookie."
Posted by: Jamal | January 25, 2008 5:41 PM

"He didn't get there by leapfrogging. He got there by lots of hard work, day in and day out, week in and week out." Quoth Hillary/Bill

But Charley didn't get to the House because of White voters. He got there because of a Black constituency, who may very well resent his brown nosing Hillary/Bill. One can expect a sense of loyalty to her since the former president has an office building in his district. What is interesting is that Iowans seem to recognize the message of Obama and find him appealing. They may even relate to the sense of history behind his campaign. Remember it was Iowa State University that provided a place where it's first African-American student, George Washington Carver, could blossom into one of America's greatest innovators, along with Edison, Ford, and Morse.

Americans like firsts, which makes this an interesting race. So it stands to reason that there are women who want Hillary nominated, and there are Blacks who want Obama nominated. As things stand now Obama leads or is tied in polling against all of the Republican candidates, while Clinton is behind McCain, and has close numbers with most of the others. Interesting.

I agree with those who say that Obama is just rhetoric.

Every word out of his mouth is "dream" and "hope" etc. etc.

I want to know what he is going to do to fix the country.

Not empty rhetoric.

Hills too doesn't say much about what she's going to do.

So I'd pick Hills, just based on the fact that Bill has been there, knows how it works, and should be able to attract people who also know how it works.

Now is not the time to take a gamble on a complete unknown, who's word sound good, but offer nothing.

"Wow. And the Obama supporters claim they're not injecting race into the discussion. Saying that with a straight face after this comment takes stones."

Jeff

Yep. Your're absolutely right on this, Jeff.

"Wow. And the Obama supporters claim they're not injecting race into the discussion. Saying that with a straight face after this comment takes stones."

Jeff

Yep. Your're absolutely right on this, Jeff.

I wonder if any of the SC people knew that Rangel was the same guy who made the allusion to Obama's drug use as a teenager?

Rangel can support whoever he wants. Interesting comment about 'he didn't get there by leapfrogging'. So Obama got there by leapfrogging? Seems to me that nothing was handed to Obama on a plate - he got where he was through hard work too. It's a shame she would insinuate otherwise.

Ahh, it is so easy for the older generation to belittle the younger generation and forget they were once young too, just like Bill was one year older than Obama when he was made president. How quickly people forget.

The price tag of buying these so called leaders is very small. Hillary supported Rangel for the Chairmanship committee in return to support her. Some of them all it takes is a call from Bill Clinton. To some is just invitation for dinner party.
To many of these Black politicians is simply jealousy. To some they think Obama's recognition has over-shadowed them. To some Obama is surounded by bright young Whites who are more educated than them. I expected very less from them. These are facts of life...

You may be onto something. I too like things to make sense. In NH either some of the following happened;

1. The voting machines were compromise.
2. The media hyped up and possibly trumped up poll numbers for Obama just prior to election night. (although this one would not explain Obama internal polls and entrance and exit polls being so wrong)
3. Females breaking for Hillary after a strategic cry.
4. Polls might have de-motivated voters, some thinking "it's already an Obama landslide, I'll give my vote to Edwards" or "it's already an Obama landslide, I don't want to kneecap Hillary..."

Either way it teaches that ALL voter must go VOTE no matter what the polls say.

Lastly don’t listen to THE MEDIA. How 4 middle ages white News commentators can tell us what all AA and Hispanic and all other minorities are thinking is beyond me. Are these white News commentators claiming to be mind readers?

Hillary will unite the party.....of the Republicans. And Congressman I will unite with them to fight against a liar and cheater. You have betrayed a good, honest and decent man in Obama. Hopefully, your constituents are paying attention.

Rangel is pretty wrangled. But then again, why shouldn't he be supporting the very person who's helping him, and promises to do even MORE, just like she earmarked over $1.5 million for Pastor Butts and his church in Harlem just before he endorsed her recently!

It is obvious that everyone (black or white) has their own reason for supporting candidates.

We have to stop throwing people into a pile because of their skin color!

The Clintons are the poster kids for the old south.

Blacks were ok, as long as they were doing what the white folks wanted, and stayed in a supporting role. When black folks tried to assert themselves economically, or politically, they were lynched, and their towns, homes, and churches burned.

When Obama stood up to the Clintons, they tried to tear him down any way they could, including lies.

For the Clintons, the "Old South" will rise again.

Greg Collins hits all the right points, but there are a few here.
and yes, Rangel is an "oreo" (what a racist comment, is there a problem with blacks and whites working together?? Oh wow, I thought that was racism? I guess it's only racist if a CAUCASION person said it). He is a sellout. But then again, Obama is a sellout to Africa and his muslim community. Sad that he denies them and they still advocate him.