By Jim Tankersley
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Like any other high-level surrogate, Ted Strickland does not mince words when he contrasts his preferred presidential candidate with her rival for the Democratic nomination.
"I don't know what kind of change Mr. Obama would bring," Strickland said this week in an interview in his ground-level office in Ohio's state capital. "I do know what kind of change Sen. Clinton would bring" - on veterans, the Iraq war, the mortgage crisis and health care - "because she's been very specific."
Strickland is not just any high-level surrogate. He is the governor of Ohio, the first Democrat to hold that job in 16 years, with a sky-high approval rating and a well-tuned statewide political operation. He is also a longtime friend of Hillary and Bill Clinton, stretching back to his days in Congress during the Clinton administration, when he worked with Hillary on universal health care and secured critical assistance from Bill that helped save his political career.
Now, Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign faces a must-win primary in Ohio on March 4 - and Strickland has gone all out to deliver a victory. See my full report on the relationship that could be Hillary Clinton's last, best hope in today's Tribune.
By Jim Tankersley
Tribune correspondent
February 23, 2008
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- It was all slipping away--the home-county highway project, re-election, his political career--and the congressman saw only one place left to turn. He did not know the number, so he looked it up.
It was past 10:30 on a September night in 1998 when the switchboard operator answered. "I need to speak to the president," he told her. Then he waited, first by the phone, then on a bus, then on a podium and a rope line, and finally, in the corner of a room in Maryland, where Bill Clinton sat down and asked how he could help.
Later, back at the Capitol, an aide to the Democratic House leadership pulled the congressman aside. The White House called, the aide told a man with no seniority and no key committee assignments. The president says he'll veto this bill if it doesn't do right by Ted Strickland.
Nearly 10 years later, that president's wife is struggling to keep her own White House dreams alive. Ted Strickland might be Sen. Hillary Clinton's last, best hope.
Personal relationships, often forged through her husband's tenure in the Oval Office, are the cornerstones of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. They have given her an advantage among the party insiders who could prove decisive in her battle for the Democratic nomination with Sen. Barack Obama. And on what is shaping up as a win-or-go-home day for her campaign on March 4, perhaps no relationship is stronger or more important than her family's 15-year bond with the once-obscure congressman who now governs Ohio.
Ted Strickland and Bill Clinton both arrived in Washington in 1993, a former minister from southeast Ohio and the Rhodes Scholar former governor of Arkansas. Both grew up poor. Strickland and Hillary Clinton, the new first lady, shared a Methodist faith.
Early in his presidency, Bill Clinton invited Strickland aboard Air Force One for a flight from St. Louis to Columbus, on their way to a presidential town hall meeting in Strickland's largely rural district. The first lady dropped into the district soon after, for a public meeting on the universal health care proposal she was spearheading and Strickland was pitching in on. When a Republican challenger narrowly beat Strickland in 1994, Hillary Clinton called to console him.
Strickland barely won his seat back in 1996. Republicans recruited their moderate lieutenant governor to challenge him in 1998. Shortly before the campaign heated up, Congress voted on a large spending bill--and GOP leaders saw a chance to soften up Strickland for the fall.
The House GOP, led by Speaker Newt Gingrich, inserted a provision in the bill that effectively killed a highway project in Strickland's district that had been in the works for 30 years. The provision, Strickland said this week, would have undercut him with constituents. So he appealed for help removing it, first to House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, then to influential Democrats on the transportation committee and finally to Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), a lion of transportation funding.
All said their hands were tied. So Strickland placed his late-night call to the White House and, the next day, hopped a bus with fellow members of Congress to flank Clinton at a school funding event in Maryland. He waited through the speeches and ensuing handshaking and watched the bus leave without him. Finally, he got his audience with Clinton--and then the threatened veto, which forced Republicans to spare the highway project. "I've always felt loyal to the two of them," Strickland said this week. President Clinton, he added later, "didn't have to help me. I wasn't a committee chair. I had no real way to repay such a show of support from him."
Now he does. After winning four more House terms, Strickland captured the Ohio governorship in 2006. His victory marked the rebirth of a long downtrodden state Democratic Party and raised Democratic hopes for winning Ohio's pivotal 20 electoral votes this year. It also showed the power of Strickland's statewide political operation, which he is now training full force toward helping Hillary Clinton win the Democratic primary on March 4.
In recent weeks, Strickland has barnstormed Ohio on the New York senator's behalf, argued her case repeatedly on national television and pressured local officials to line up behind her. Some of his staff members have taken leaves to help the Clinton campaign. In interviews, Strickland praises Clinton's experience and the depth of her policy proposals and questions whether Obama would prove to be anything more than a wave of enthusiasm.
"Not many years ago," Strickland said, "we chose a president based on feelings. George Bush was elected because he seemed like a good guy, the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with. ... Look what we got."
Ohio political experts disagree on what sort of boost Clinton is getting from Strickland. Chris Redfern, the presidentially neutral chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party, said Strickland's support and political operation give Clinton a "huge advantage" in a primary she is counting on winning. David Wilhelm, a former Democratic National Committee chairman who advised Bill Clinton in 1992 and Strickland in 2006 and endorsed Obama last week, said the Strickland endorsement "doesn't seem all that important" in Ohio this year.
Between stops on a whirlwind Ohio tour last weekend, Strickland reminded Bill Clinton of his long-ago help on the spending bill. Later, he told Hillary Clinton about it. Strickland smiled when he recounted her response: "She said, `Ted, that's the kind of president I want to be.' "
jtankersley@tribune.com







Comments
As an ex-Ohiohan, I would guess that this might help Hillary in the Ohio primary, but it will definitely hurt Strickland's chances of getting re-elected as Governor. There are alot of Ohiohans who have little or no respect for Hillary, and not just GOP'ers, but Independents and even some Dems, and they will not forget that Strickland is going all out for Hillary. He's the first Dem Governor in over a decade and it'll probably be another two decades before we see another.
Also, doesn't Strickland's support just seem like a payback for past political favors?!? That's just more of the politics of old, which is exactly what Obama seems to be fighting against.
Posted by: B.W. | February 23, 2008 9:16 AM
Cue the Rod McKuen music but please wait until I get outside cuz I wanna ralph.
Jim - your check from the Clinton campaign is in the mail.
Posted by: Terry | February 23, 2008 9:35 AM
This is the guy you Obama voters are gambling on rather than voting for Hillary who we know will take care of us.
Check out this link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmLfE30-kZw
Posted by: Hillary All the Way!!! | February 23, 2008 9:37 AM
Don't buy it. Garbage in garbage out not matter how touching the slant is.
Posted by: MissClarity | February 23, 2008 9:50 AM
It is my hope that Senator Clinton wins Ohio, and I am glad Strickland is behind her. He is well-liked and respected among the people I know.
I had not watched a single debate until the one in Austin the other evening, and was struck by what a fine job Senator Clinton did--so very presidential, knowledgeable, and inspiring. Having not seen much of Senator Obama actually speaking before, I was really left wondering what all the hype is about with his inspiration and good public speaking skills. While they both seem very similar on policy (except health care - and I did not like Senator Obama's response about Cuba), Senator Clinton was the clear choice for me, and I would think anyone looking for a President they can be confident will work hard on both sides of the aisle to get all of these things done. There is much work to do after these eight messy years of President Bush!
Posted by: Gabrielle | February 23, 2008 9:54 AM
Re: Obama wagon
Right now, it's like someone drinking an enormously good bottle of wine, all at once.
Problem is, without an appropriate pairing of good food, the hangover the next morning could be very bad.
Will America get a huge hangover 2 years after President Obama?
Posted by: Stephen Yeo | February 23, 2008 9:55 AM
A powerful channeling act of famous people he pretends to be is Obamas entire gig. Next he'll be channeling Jesus Christ himself and claim to be the second coming. Or, has he already done that?
Posted by: Chris | February 23, 2008 9:55 AM
This is exactly the sort of inside power brokering that must end in Washington. Bills should not pass, fail or be vetoed because of personal favors, rather legislation should proceed if it is fiscally sound and the public need is clear. That may well have been the case with Strickland's highway funding but it ought not be the product of backroom deals and favors owed; that's how organized crime works...not transparent government. Hillary says that's the kind of president she wants to be and I believe her...and that's why she is unsuited for the job. We need a fresh face and not more politics as usual.
Posted by: Andrew Benjamin | February 23, 2008 9:58 AM
Having been nice enough to give Hilary the consolation prize of the New York Senatorship after the Republicans did the nasty on her husband, New Yorkers have endured a one woman act who doesn't answer her emails (which she took two years to establish,) who voted FOR the invasion of Iraq against the will of her constituency, and quite frankly has no substance. Nor has she more "experience" than her contender. She is also sixty years old: too old for the arduousness and fast pace of today's world and technology.
If one remembers that a health care policy and everything else one proposes as a candidate is subject to the whims and fancy of the legislative branch, H.Clinton's strident assertiveness over "her plan" would be viewed with a degree of amusement, NOT redemption.
Posted by: New York Jeanne | February 23, 2008 10:00 AM
After watching the debates on CNN.com, Cnn did interviews with serogates. One was Axelrod. He said that Senator Obama has done alot for the Latino Community in Illinois. I found this to be untrue.
Posted by: r.mary | February 23, 2008 10:02 AM
If Obama is nominated,. the Democrats are gonna get the biggest loss in the history of Presidential
elections. I know some "Red Dog" Democrats that have never even considered voting GOP swear if Obama is nominated they will vote Republican. I agree.
Posted by: Jerry D Criner | February 23, 2008 10:05 AM
Quid pro quo, huh?
Posted by: NT | February 23, 2008 10:06 AM
Check the source on this "story." It sounds like it was written by a Clinton p.r. staffer. Gush is not exactly the appropriate word for it, but it's close. Time to rotate reporters with their candidates.
Posted by: Grandon | February 23, 2008 10:07 AM
Obama the Anti Christ? http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com. There are 116,000 Google matches for Obama in-experienced Washington rookie as the Antichrist candidate, Pundits” referring to Obama as “the messiah.” the antichrist is also to be a “false messiah,” who tricks everybody Obama supporters "creepy" and "cult-like" Summary: CNN's Costello said audience response at an Obama rally is "a scene some increasingly find not inspirational, but 'creepy,' " quoting columnists who have likened Obama supporters to members of a cult or described their enthusiasm as "creepy." On-screen text during Costello's report read: "OBAMA-MANIA BACKLASH" and "PASSION 'CULT-LIKE' TO SOME." Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer similarly cited other writers to make the same assertion: "ABC's Jake Tapper notes the 'Helter-Skelter cult-ish qualities' of 'Obama worshipers,' what Joel Stein of the Los Angeles Times calls 'the Cult of Obama. We’ve been wondering what’s up with this whole “Obama ‘08!” Media circus, because the guy hasn’t actually done anything but win his first Senate race after Republican Jack Ryan had to drop out. Something to think about before voting for Obama whose wife never proud to be an American until now, or so she says. The Anti-Christ will be a world leader who would come under the disguise of being a world uniter, preach world peace, and would be such a very likeable and unassuming figure; he will achieve all of that. Basically the Anti-Christ is going to kill us with kindness and reveal himself when he gets to the position he wants. That’s close to Osama’s platform; people are beginning to believe it’s him.” The biggest trick the devil ever pulled is convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
1.- He will come as a man of Peace (Obama promises peace in Iraq, defeat for the US)
2.- He will come mounted on a white Female horse(Obama mother is white who had 6 African husbands)
3.- He will come to deceive( Obama says he's a Christian but in fact he was born a Muslim, practices the Islamic religion, prays Friday’s facing Mecca)
4.- He will make himself the most powerful man on earth, if elected
5.- He will try to destroy the Jewish People and Israel( Obama has said he loves the Arabs specially the Palestinians, hates Israel and Jews. Admires Hitler, Osama etc)
6.- He will present himself as good and righteous but in fact he's Satan himself. Violence is in his heart
7.- Obama will help Al Qaida in its evil projects.
8.- Barack Hussein Obama is the “King of the South” predicted in the Bible.(Daniel .11, Kenya is south of Jerusalem)
9.- Obama comes to implant muslim Sharia Law upon America.
Barack “Hussein” Obama scares the bejesus out of me! Why? He’s a smooth talker and, seems to be coated with Teflon. Sadly, the most obvious disqualifier in our new world of terror, a middle-eastern name, is the one people seem the most willing to ignore.
(Swamp editor's note: Obama is not Muslim. He is Christian. But there's plenty of room for high, or low, comedy here in the Swamp.)
Posted by: Jones | February 23, 2008 10:08 AM
This seems more like the "poilitics of politics"--loyalty bred out of swapping favors. As Hilary said--that's "the kind of President I want to be" and exactly why the voters have turned to Obama
Posted by: Neil | February 23, 2008 10:09 AM
this story makes me want to "weep"....
Posted by: newswatcher | February 23, 2008 10:09 AM
Mr. Strickland needs to read the position papers on both web sites. As a politician he knows that one can not deliver a speech that goes into levels of detail - it is boring. But the details are spelled out on Barak Obama's web site.
As for experience, I'm not sure what Ms. Clinton's experience is that is that much greater, "I saw my husband do it"...?
Both candidates have worked hard all their professional lives, neither one one got to where they are by "words" alone. The only real difference, Barak brings new people into process and can win in November, while Hillary relies of "old" habits and allies, and will just plain lose in November, no matter how much people are tired this incompetent administration.
For the first time in many many years dare say decades I hear from people that they are FOR someone and not just voting because they are AGAINST another candidate. In a Clinton vs. McCain race people will be doing the later; in an Obama vs. McCain race most will be FOR someone. How can that be bad for America?
Posted by: GL Mason | February 23, 2008 10:10 AM
An interesting article, and a really good picture of "politics as usual." This guy is loyal, not because of anything Hillary did, which is the key factor in the equation.
Oh, so you Hillary voters can see the gal you're gambling on, here a real treasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H60y8mHMpmU
Posted by: Billy | February 23, 2008 10:12 AM
SHOW YOUR TAX RETURNS HILLARY!!!!!!!
She won't!! You know why. Bill and Hillary made 25 million dollars (Saying bill started a partnership) From a small muslim country Dubai!!!! 25 MILLION!!! REMEMBER? That new contract? To fill our ships with dubai oil and fuel. CORRUPTION!!!!!! I trusted Bill and hillary, Once!! Never again!! Obama All new, No 20 years of learning how to corrupt the people!!!!!!!
Posted by: SoCal | February 23, 2008 10:14 AM
It's already over and Billary knows it. I love the claims that she has such vast experience. Way to handle the campaign finances with that experience. Broke by February!? She's well qualified. After March 4, she and Huck should throw in the towel and let this thing sit for the summer. It's baseball time, and time to let these devisive primaries end.
Posted by: karl | February 23, 2008 10:15 AM
The Clinton patronage politics is one of the primary reasons I will continue to vote for Barack Obama who is my senator from IL. His campaign has been financed by a multitude of supporters, not by the wealthy few, those who have been a part of establishment politics for decades. He wishes to work through agreement of many for many and not for the monetary gain of a few. It is indeed time for change in Washington and for wellbeing for the majority of citizens and for our country's position in the world.
Posted by: T N Gentzel | February 23, 2008 10:16 AM
Sen. Clinton is certainly knowledgable and well-meaning. She has lots of old friends like the Ohio governor. However, after 8 years of the incompetant Bush administration we are going to need more that competance to climb back to where we should be. We are going to need wisdom and inspiration - both characteristics that Sen Obama seems to have. He also seems to know how to be a CEO because if you look at how he has managed a campaign organization he has done extremely well - much better that Hillery - even with her experience. I'm going with Obama.
Posted by: Jay | February 23, 2008 10:16 AM
Don't believe everything you see on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw
Posted by: Jimmy | February 23, 2008 10:16 AM
Support for Obama isn't merely about feelings, it is about thoughts annd appreciation for his pragmatic problem solving and consensus building skills. The article points to Mrs. Clinton's connections and support. Much of that is built on President Clinton's experience, not her's. Some of that support comes with a great deal of baggage, which is precisely what we don't want in the next President
Posted by: Millington | February 23, 2008 10:17 AM
I actually went to college in Ted Strickland's congressional district back when he was a congressman before he ran for governor.
Hillary can't count on him if she wants photo ops of the two of them hunting and him to talk about how he's a minister and how close to God him and Hillary are. Other than that he's not good for much. In the four years I lived there I can't remember one piece of meaningful legislation he either authored or helped pass.
Posted by: Jeff | February 23, 2008 10:24 AM
As to the youtube video. Obamas accomplishments, first off if anyone in this nation was worried about how much someone has accomplished then they would be voting for Independent canidate Ralph Nader in the big election on Nov 4th. But no one does really care because its all about republicans and democrats and who has the most money, so if we want to use idiot standards to continue and vote this year then Hilary will probably be the democrat and McCain the republican, so now all we need to do is find out which RICH person we want to vote for. Because we are obviously not going to use our common since as americans and vote for the person with the most accomplishements anyway. Personaly I think that this is year with the worst canidates ever and anyone with half a brain would be doing research on some of independents out there because they are going to be apart of this election too. There is not just two canidates and I can tell you now that none these people working for those two spots have the most accomplishments among canidates. I just hope that some of you people voting this year will open up your eyes and notice the people who are truly wanting to make a change and not just wether they are rep or dem they are not the only ones, Please on Nov 4th keep this mind, because if any of these rep or dem canidates make this year there will be problems in this country worst then they are now.
Posted by: Paradox | February 23, 2008 10:26 AM
I think if Hillary fails to get nomination from Democratic party, she could run for president as an independent candidate. I believe she has a good chance since Obama wave will vapor quickly, and people will realize that he is not ready yet for the US CEO.
Posted by: Ray | February 23, 2008 10:27 AM
Bill did me a lot of favors too.
Posted by: Monica lewinsky | February 23, 2008 10:27 AM
Too funny, in the video, the attempt to discredit Obama's accomplishments, Senator Kirk Watson was asked to name Obama's legislative accomplishements. He did not know any, what he should have said was:
Obama’s resume and legislative experience:
1) Obama graduated in the top 1% of his class at Harvard Law school with a major in Constitutional Law.
2) Obama was elected President of the Havard Law Review.
3) Obama worked as a Community Organizer in the poor neighborhoods of Chicago when he could have gotten a very high paying law job.
4) Obama worked for several years as a Civil Rights lawyer in Chicago.
5) Obama served as State Senator in Illinois for 8 years. And he has served the last 3 years as U.S. Senator. THAT’S 11 YEARS IN ELECTED OFFICE FOR OBAMA.
During the first eight (8) years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced: 233 regarding health care reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans’ affairs …and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included: *the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), *The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), *The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, *The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
Source of 109th U.S. Senate sponsored legislation: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d109&querybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Sen+Obama++Barack))+01763))
Compare that to Hillary's experience... she sponsored a mere 20 bills, but then she does have her experience as First Lady (staying with a man that consistently cheated on her in a non-discreet manner, making headlines over and over again. I ask you, is that your idea of a good role model for women? This is supposedly a "strong" woman?)
Posted by: AntiSpinDoctor | February 23, 2008 10:28 AM
...as a New Yorker, I have seen what this lady can do. She is a known quantity, she comes with Bill and a slew of other top level intelligent people, the change she brings can return us to the days before 911, I can sign up for that, what does Barack bring?.............exactly
Posted by: Think about it? | February 23, 2008 10:28 AM
If the gov has such a high opinion of Sen Clinton, its not just because Bill did him a favor all those years ago. Its because he knows her well enough to feel like she has a PLAN, something solid to base a presidency on, not just high hopes which should be the theme song for Obama's camp.
Posted by: Bobbi | February 23, 2008 10:29 AM
Are you kidding, Strickland? You really think you know what kind of change Hillary will bring on healthcare, Iraq and veterans issues? Based on what -- her accomplishments or what she has said?
Let's see, she was for the war (failing to read pre-war intelligence) before she was against the war in Iraq (now saying she really voted for diplomacy). She's pandered to vets in authoring unconstitutional legislation banning flag burning on federal property. Even on healthcare, her plans have not only failed to pass, but changed fairly significantly over the years, without an explanation of either the changes or the failures.
It's difficult here not see a pattern, an integrity deficit, between her actions and those of Obama and McCain.
Posted by: TIm Parker | February 23, 2008 10:32 AM
More of the same from Hillary, you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. What about what the people want Ted. The stench of the Clinton camp is moving the people to Obama!
Posted by: David | February 23, 2008 10:35 AM
to "Hillary All The Way"
Yea, I know Hillary will "take care of us"! That's the scary part. She thinks and acts like no one else knows anything. She (and Bill) even say that the job of the people is "to elect her." She seems to think she'd running for Queen or god. What she has proven is that she can't even run a campaign. People leaving and out of money. So, now it's time to pull favors. That's not what America wants anymore. And we certainly don't need 32 years of "Royal Family Rule" by the Clintons & Bushs.
Posted by: Reality | February 23, 2008 10:36 AM
For the definitive answer to Obama's "Experience" issue, google "Judge Him by His Laws" by Charles Peters (from Washington Post, 1/4/08).
Posted by: Donna | February 23, 2008 10:37 AM
Obama is a gamble I will gladly take. Hilary is a proven non-factor. She's worked on the United health care issue for over 8 years and achieved nothing. And her campaign finances are a bit of a problem and I don't trust her or think she can fix the deficit if she has to use her own money to fix her own financial woes.
Posted by: Jules | February 23, 2008 10:38 AM
Nice story. It's nice to see a man is willing to help those that helped him. I scratch your back, you scratch mine. We all know how strong the dictum is. It's probably the building block of institutions and society. That said, look to see Obama bring Strickland into the team after he narrowly looses in Ohio's primary to fight for Ohio's 20 electoral college votes in the spring. And Clinton, being the honorable woman she really is--despite what is said to the contrary--will only help glue the relationship together.
Posted by: Han | February 23, 2008 10:41 AM
This is a sad commentary on the Clinton "politics by favor- cronism" that Obama is striving to eliminate. Seems the will of the people should determine political actions.
Posted by: Get Real! | February 23, 2008 10:42 AM
this article, and one I just got done reading as a re-post from the chicago reader archive (http://www.chicagoreader.com/obama/951208/ ) clarify for me the choice between two candidates, both of whom i truly do believe are strong.
When Clinton says she can get the job done from day one, I believe her: the way the "job" has typicially gotten done does involve a lot more experience and engagement with individuals at high political levels than it does active participation on the part of ordinary citizens. A vote for Hillary clinton means that after election day, once she is in office, you can go back to your life as you know it- for most of us, that means a not particularly politically engaged life- and trust her to make the appropriate handshakes and negotiate the appropriate deals to get balls rolling somewhere in the vicinity of what she'd like to accomplish while in office. Never exactly on the target- a negotiation seldom yields all of what you want, and often brings much of what you dont in the form of riders, thick as barnacles, riding on the coat-tails of pieces of legislation that are otherwise worthwhile and high minded. A vote for Barack Obama is going to mean in '09 what it has increasingly come to mean today: it's time to roll up our sleeves, get informed, and get our hands dirty with the work of focussed effort. With Barack Obama we're going to need to stay on top of our elected officials, calling and writing and signing petitions. He doesn't have as many friends or favors lined up; everything he wants to get done is going to involve more active participation on the part of ordinary citizens than has been seen for a long time. That's what the change is actually going to have to look like, in order for things to get done; that's what "transformational" means. In return, what we get will bear less of a resemblance to washington-as-usual. But make no mistake: Barack means Work. I'm in; you?
this comment is re-posted here because this article, originally called something else, was originally posted elsewhere. I encourage online readers to view the original seven comments that were there in addition to mine by scrolling down to "nation/world" and clicking on "grateful friend Hillary's great Ohio hope" ; I'm unsure why the conversation was moved here to the swamp, but knowing how out of synch editorial submissions can be with online updating, I'm hesitant to point a finger Jim Tankersley's way.
I do have a question though, Mr. Tankersley: why did you change the article title from your original "Favor Wins Clinton Fervent Ohio Aid"?
Posted by: warranted optimism | February 23, 2008 10:44 AM
We'll never really know whether Strickland is supporting Hillary because he truly believes she's the best candidate or simply a favor returned? At best (and to give him the benefit of the doubt), one can only surmise that it is a little of both. Most likely however, folks will conclude this as a favor repaid. It seams to me that if elected, a President Hillary Clinton would absolutely show future bias towards Ohio. As you know, federal funding is a zero-sum game/fixed pool of money. A political favor/repayment to Ohio would certainly result in a penalty or holdback to another state(s). I hate I-owe-you's in politics!
Posted by: Jay Ross | February 23, 2008 10:46 AM
This is political payback! We do not know that Hillary will take care of us! We do know it will be a continuation of Bill politics! I am so very tired of the same political nothing! We need change!
Posted by: olivia | February 23, 2008 10:47 AM
same old pay back time.same old washinton politics..
is this the change and hope u were speaking of billary? we truly hope you wil1 quit after 14 losses hillary....its OVER...HAVE A SMIGEON OF DIGNITY AND JOIN UR FELLOW AMERICANS BEHIND OBAMA...SORRRRRY your base has dwindled ..and in retropect if u had caged bill's mouth... and yes your comittee people spent way too much $$$$ in vegas..believe me
Posted by: kc rich | February 23, 2008 10:51 AM
If we want to put a minority in the White House to affect equal opportunity in a very diverse nation, then let us place someone who has a track record of doing so. If you tell me you are from Chy-S.Side, Cleveland, Bronx, Brooklyn, Phili, or any other economically depressed region of our country, and you rose to attend a great university where you further this opportunity for others like you, you have my respect. If after college and graduate work, you made substantial contribution to less fortunate, who cannot better their own substandard living, you have my respect. If you raised funds and supported programs for Job Corps AND grants for minorities to attend college as the Clinton administration did (and Bush cut) , you have my admiration. Obama is NOT this person. You don't have to come from an old Mayflower family to lead our country, but you have to inherit the fundamental principal of being American, which is roll-up-your-sleeve hard work to make this great nation run well with everyone running. We are better off electing the CEO of Merrill Lynch who is a better embodiment of this than Obama. Clinton although not Black has the heart to create equal opportunities in education and healthcare for those who cannot improve their situations by themselves. Clinton administration has done and WILL DO just that.
Posted by: Obama NO SOLN | February 23, 2008 10:52 AM
If you want to know the real Obama look at his supporters post online-rude, nasty, and always with the undercurrent of violence that marks a true Obama supporter.
Thats what you get when you vote Obama into power.
Posted by: NYTSUNAMI | February 23, 2008 10:55 AM
hillary will take care of herself as she has done for decades. have we forgotten that she made $100,000 from trading commodity futures of which she knows nothing and which was physically impossible to do with what she apparently started with. hillary goes to the highest bidder and that will not change.
Posted by: tarun kataria | February 23, 2008 10:55 AM
So its nothing that a project being worked for 30 years and helped to get implemented. Should ask people who work hard to get implemented and not just who talk sweet . Selfish people who like their country only when there is something favorable to them.
Posted by: Jonathan | February 23, 2008 10:56 AM
Remember when it comes to politics. The best story teller takes it all.need I say more.
Posted by: m oliver | February 23, 2008 10:57 AM
We Ohioans love Ted Strickland because he ended one party rule and all the partisanship it entailed. But he is riding the wrong horse in this election. For the same reasons we love Ted we love Obama. I suspect the vote will be a lot closer than Ted would like... he might even loose this one.
Posted by: Jim Ebright | February 23, 2008 10:58 AM
Hilliary voted for the war, the Patriot Acts, the Military Commisisons Act, the Domestic Terrorism Act.
If that doesn't sum it up, what does?
Posted by: Tangy | February 23, 2008 10:58 AM
Barack Obama as the son of an immigrant father who left his family when he was two years old has overcome incredible odds. He is a man of obvious intellect and integrity. A fresh breeze to do away with the sixteen years of stank in the White House we have suffered through. Yes the Clinton years were better than the Bush ones but should we be proud of Bill? He left and the Democrats lost the House of Representatives, the Senate and of course the White House. Not so great a legacy verdad?
Vote for Obama and our country will be viewed with respect again around the world and we will use our treasure for good like education, health care, and Americas infrastructure.
We are spilling blood daily and spending our hard owned cash in massive amounts for a war that should never have been fought. I am a Cuban-American U.S. Army Vietnam veteran, my grandfather fought in WW1 and my son fought in Iraq. Barack Obama has it right that our enemies were right were we needed them in Afghanistan and we let them get away and now they are getting stronger regardless of what George W. And his surge b.s. tell you. Guns vs butter plain and simple. We need to vote for change before we are totally broke both financially and morally.
As a Cuban America I also support his position on how to handle Cuba. Continuing the same policy which has failed for over fifty years is plain ludicrous.
From a mixed racial background to President of the Harvard law review, to community organizer, to U.S. Senator, to President of the United States. This story is the American Dream in real life. Latinos vote for someone of mixed race born to a teen mother who took this start and made all of us immigrant children proud.
SI SE PUEDE CON BARACK OBAMA SI SE PUEDE!! YES WE CAN INDEED!!
These are my opinions and I am sticking to them!
RAUL DEJESUS PEDRAZA A Texan Latino who got on the bandwagon way early.
Posted by: Raul PEDRAZA | February 23, 2008 10:58 AM
Americans and our short memory. The fact is that Hilary has worked to help people for 35 yrs in respect to the Federal goverment. From working to impeach Nixon in the 70's to health care now. Obama on the other hand has done most of his civil work in community service which is probably not going to help much. Remember Jimmy Carter as great a speaker and leader of change he was they squashed him in Washington and this is an example of what I am trying to convey.
He came in after Nixon which a few of us remember as crooks who he even had a hand in the Kent State murders and suprise now we have a unknown / untested candidate again in Obama. As I remember it didn't go good for Carter as it probably won't for Obama as I see alot of talk but nothing else (Jimmy's was Trust Me and Obama is Change) Bull. Now we have another crook in the white house named George Bush / Dick Chenny / the whole staff. It seems the republican party including alot of news networks are pushing Obama down our throats. He speaks good, has virtualy no qualifications, and dosen't have a clue what he is in for. So get ready for nothing for the next 4 yrs if Obama wins so Jeb Bush can come to save the day in 2012 with more crooks and maybe give missles and train another bunch of terrorist.
I just wish the crooks (republican party) to tell us all who to invest in so we all can get rich. I mean they got the News Channels, Religous right, the NRA, the Military, Saudi's/Oil/Auto/Construction companies (Halibuton, etc.), Corp America and oh yeah FOX. It would seem that one of these would tell us how to get in their click.
Posted by: Greg Lawley | February 23, 2008 11:02 AM
This to Hillary All the Way!!!- I think you summed up precisely why many of us don't want another Clinton Regime. They will indeed "take care of us". This may be lost on you, but some of us don't want to be taken care of. Not being "taken care of" is exactly what freedom means.
Posted by: Davie | February 23, 2008 11:02 AM
Hillary is leading in Ohio, Rhode Island, and is 1-2 points ahead in Texas. She is behind in Vermont, but not for long.
Obama has been exposed already. He's a liar. He is full of hot air. And nothing Oprah says is going to convince me to change my mind. Hillary is getting my vote. I may be Black, but what does that have to do with anything? NOTHING. I vote on experience and dependability, not "hope and change." Shit. You Obama supporters are like zombies.
Perhaps this will clear things up for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTxcT-KMR8&feature=related
Maya Angelou has endorsed Hillary... Not every Black person in this nation is an idiot (e.g., such as those in the South....)
Posted by: LaToya from Ohio | February 23, 2008 11:04 AM
This goes out to B.W THE EX-OHIOHAN or is it BLOW WHALE? One great thing is that you won't have to worry about re-electing Governor Strickland since you don't reside in Ohio anymore. It appears you've lost that RIGHT. With Huckabee the pickings are a little slim, you think? TRUST US...HILLARY WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. Huckabee's son DAVID 18 last summer as Boy Scout counselor@Camp Pioneer,Hatfield AR,strung up a stray dog,slit his throat then stoned him to death. NO CRIMINAL CHARGES I guess that's the christian way of doing things.Obama's church "TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST" has allegiance to AFRICA check it out www.tucc.org. We must be an informed people. McCain wants to keep the world in war for another 100 years while he trapes around with his lobbying lovers...VOTE HILLARY, she has a REAL PLAN devoted to the United States Of America. God Bless Us ALL
Posted by: N.G. | February 23, 2008 11:04 AM
to Jones...You are creeping me out...you are a paranoid person with strong evil intent...go to Church and read the New Testament but not Revelations...You should be certified...
Posted by: patty merrill | February 23, 2008 11:04 AM
After all the nasty people in the Obama campaign, if he makes the primary I will lead the charge for McCain. Anybody, but Obama and his nasty campaigners.
Posted by: Marie | February 23, 2008 11:04 AM
Endorsements mean little. I know I go by who I like and the issues and often disagree with the governors, senators and those in congress. Actually it could backfire as I heard my Sen. Nelson in Florida yapping about Hillary and I may vote Republican next time Nelson runs just because of his support for her. Governor Richardson in New Mexico may be smart to stay neutral when you pick sides you turn a lot of people off and not that many on.
Posted by: Scott | February 23, 2008 11:10 AM
If Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will be voting for McCain, as a vote **against** Obama. Obama cultivates his "cult" image -- nothing is more telling than the recent Obama march at the UT Austin debate where his followers marched down the street carrying a placard with his image--an imagery that evokes rather unpleasant memories of other cult/dictator personalities.
Posted by: Lee | February 23, 2008 11:13 AM
Isn't Ted Strickland old enough to know that Hillary voted for the war in Iraq that is costing billions of American's tax payers money, money that could be better spent elsewhere to boost the crumbling economy?
What good is an experience when it is not put to good use?
This article reveals a lot about why Hillary is failing. She has built her candidacy on her husband's personal acquaintances as a president. For this reason, she has miscalculated. She was expecting an easy ride and has completely underestimated her opponents. She was ill-prepared for this battle.
I am confident that Hillary, without her husband's political legacy, good and bad like the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal, would be a good candidate. Now Bill Clinton is trying too hard, sometimes spoiling it all for his wife.
Posted by: Kwame Mensan | February 23, 2008 11:13 AM
The change that he promises to bring about - what change is it? No specifics at all. Especially after he is getting endorsements from the same people he is naming as the people who stilt change. He admitted what type of president he'll be - the type of president who surrounds himself with advisers who'll tell him what to sign. Who do you think those advisers are?
People - open up your eyes and listen closely. He's a fine speaker but if you elect him you'll get another GWB, another president who absently signs the check that his advisers tell him to sign...and then when stuff hits the fan...oh -no...no one is held accountable.
Posted by: emmeline rae | February 23, 2008 11:17 AM
According to one of the lunatics on here Obama is the anti-christ?
Well let's check out this Christ guy. He represents a God who apparently gives free will and then threatens destruction if you don't choose what he wants. He claimed to be the son of a God who tortures himself to death for the sins that would never have happened if he didn't give free choice, and worse still he creates a world were millions of people are led astray by solid evidence into not believing in him?
Christ sounds like the ultimate evil to me. So Obama (who if anyone wasn't a moron who can't do their research would discover follows this evil Jesus Christ scum) as an Anti-Christ sounds like a good deal. Sadly however he's just another sheep like all those other Christians worshipping a God who has a track record of genocide and hate. Christians/Muslims all just evil scum. Same god same nonsense.
Posted by: Martin | February 23, 2008 11:17 AM
Seems to me that the folks in ohio needed that road, before you go trash a man for asking for help consider why the GOP wanted to trash a 30 year plan to build a road.
Our problems didnt start with bill clinton but with the GOP lets face facts,Hillary did not have to try to get univeral health care passed so those of us who do not have health care could have it, she could have been the pretty president wife and stayed neutral but she cared enought to try. Obama has not even done that for the past two years.
When he was campaigning for the senate he said he had absolutely no intention of running for president in 2008 that he just wanted to be a senator( boy did he tell a whopping lie).
So instead of doing a job he was hire to do by the folks in Illinois he has spent the 2 years he has been in the us senate to campaign for president.
He has accomplished nothing, he has done nothing, and all he has done is promise a lot of crap he reminds me so much of George W. Bush nothing but TALK.
Posted by: Jerry | February 23, 2008 11:18 AM
While having a great deal of respect for Gov Strickland, I must say I'm deeply disapointed in his backing of HRC. If her handling of this campaign is any way, represenitive of the way, she would run the country , then we would be in big trouble. The Clintons continue the back room politics and deals, by trying to woo pledge and super delegates.
If anyone else other than a CLINTON had lost 11 in a row, by huge margins, they would have gracefully stepped aside. OBAMA 08
Posted by: Mark L | February 23, 2008 11:20 AM
To Jones, the poster of the "Anti-Christ" message (10:08am), YOU'RE CRAZY!!!.
Your conspiracy-laden post is based on some wacky combination of biblical prophecy, Nostradamus prognostications and post 9-11 millenialism. C'mon, because he has "a middle-eastern name" he is therefore working with "the terrorists"!?! That's crazy talk!!! (plus Barack is actually an African name). Not to mention, that if you actually take the word of the Bible as literal fact (based on your 'book of Daniel reference'), then you are probably going to be voting for the GOP candidate anyway; probably one who actually believes the world was created in just six days only 4000 years ago, and that females were actually created from the rib of Adam, and that the theories of evolution are part of some vast scientific, anti-religious conspiracy.
Posted by: Bruce | February 23, 2008 11:21 AM
Between stops on a whirlwind Ohio tour last weekend, Strickland reminded Bill Clinton of his long-ago help on the spending bill. Later, he told Hillary Clinton about it. Strickland smiled when he recounted her response: "She said, `Ted, that's the kind of president I want to be.' "
She's going to be the kind of president who trades in political favors and rewards loyalty rather than judging issues on their own merit?
Posted by: Gary | February 23, 2008 11:21 AM
Candidates always preach what they will or won't do when they become president. Bush promised to be the compassionate conservative during his campaign and after eight horrible years, he is ending his reign with our country despised abroad, hemorrhaging money and lives in a war for no reason, a huge deficit and a tanking economy. So comparing candidates based on what they promise to do is not so reliable. The best measure of a candidate's readiness, effectiveness and leadership ability is the here and now. This can be measured factually and with real time metrics by comparing how they have managed their campaigns. Clinton and Obama have similar political experience, positions and proposals. Clinton was the favorite starting out. She had the most money, PR and inside connections. In just a years' time, she has squandered her funds, miscalculated budget, did not forecast ahead, had no contingency plan, no coherent, consistent message, no organization skills. Unfortunately like Bush, she hired inexperienced staff because of their loyalty to her not for their competence. Running a year plus presidential campaign is a preview of the top job. How a candidate handles the daily pressures of the campaign, can think quickly and can demonstrate agility in responding to challenges is a very strong indicator of how he or she would perform as commander in chief. The bottom line is that if Clinton cannot effectively manage her campaign, then she is absolutely in NO position to manage her country. She clearly lacks even the most basic management skills. Her failure to rally her supporters, inspire voters and correct her tactical and strategic errors indicates that she is definitely not a leader and does not perform well under pressure. Additionally her constantly changing demeanor of a street fighter to tearing up to snapping harshly to emotional closing indicates a true lack of security within her self. She seems to be uncomfortable to simply be Hillary, whoever she really is. Her best option is to exit the campaign now and look for other roles more suited to her abilities rather than rely on old allies returning a political favor.
Posted by: Sam Wolf | February 23, 2008 11:22 AM
Clintonians please stop with this old politics of throwing dirt on the fan... Do like your leader and concede... I know you valuate more your promised well-paid jobs in DC than the destiny of this country, that is why your Clinton family, together with the Bush family, sent this country to the situation it is... It is sad to see that a respected politician such as Governor Strickland is falling to the MAFIA way of the Clinton gang, and "paying back favors". THIS MUST STOP NOW!!! We are tired of this MAFIA politics and all the low level personal attacks that all the Clintonians do! Stop! YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY!
Posted by: Clintonians please stop... | February 23, 2008 11:24 AM
Strickland Who? Hillary Who? Obama Who?
All Losers!
Posted by: Jay | February 23, 2008 11:24 AM
Let's take a closer look at who's really qualified and or who's really
working for the good of all of us in the SENATE. OBAMA or CLINTON.
Records of these two candidates should be scrutinized in order to make
an informed decision.
Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term - 6 years - and
another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law - 20
-twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the Website of the Library of Congress
www.thomas.loc.gov http://www.thomas.loc.gov/, but to save you the
trouble, I'll have posted them here for you.
CLINTON
1. Established the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Supported the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognized the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Named courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Named courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Named Post Office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designated August 7,2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Supported the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart
Recognition Day.
9. Honored the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the
bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulated the Syracuse University orange Men's Lacrosse Team
on winning the championship.
11. Congratulated the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacross Team on
winning the championship.
12. Established the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution
Commemorative Program.
13. Names Post Office after Seargeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honored Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and
expressed condolences on her death.
15. Honored John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters
who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more
substantive.
16. Extended period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Payed for city projects in respons to 9/11.
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assisted family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designated part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as
protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.
Now, I would post those of OBAMA'S, but the list is too substantive, so
I'll mainly categorize.
During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored
over 820 bills. He introduced:
233 - regarding healthcare reform,
125 - on poverty and public assistance,
112 - crime fighting bills,
97 - economic bills,
60 - human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 - ethics reform bills,
15 - gun control,
6 - veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and
co-sponsored another 427. These included ***the Coburn-Obama
Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law, ***The Lugar-Obama
Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction
Act, - became la, ***The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed
the Senate, ***The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law, ***The
Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee,
and many more.
In all, since entering the U.S. Sentate, Senator OBAMA has written 890
bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record
according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made
public.
HE's not just a TALKER - He's a doer.
As for McCain- three words: The Keating Five
Posted by: Stacy Darling | February 23, 2008 11:27 AM
To comment on the "Obama as anti-Christ" theory...Please, please go find a blog or web page that caters to the make-believe. We have no time for such ridiculous notions.
Posted by: Julie | February 23, 2008 11:28 AM
Obama is bad. Clinton is good.
Any questions? Good, then you know what to do on March 4.
Posted by: Phil | February 23, 2008 11:28 AM
All you Clinton-philes should ask yourselves a few, key questions:
1) If the Clinton machine is still so potent and filled with intelligent experience, why are they running the most ineffective and inefficient campaign outside of the Giuliani group? (must be somthing in the water in NY).
2) If Hillary, the overwelming favorite of this election season from the beginning, could not solidy the Dem party and build momentum for November, then how will she bring together two parties which are constantly at each other's throats?
3) How low is Hillary willing to go to turn the tide in this primary? She has resorted to tears on the eve of 2 pivotal elections (New Hampshire and Super Tuesday). Pandering for sympathetic votes does not strike me as the actions of a "tough and proven leader".
Posted by: Will J | February 23, 2008 11:29 AM
All you Clinton-philes should ask yourselves a few, key questions:
1) If the Clinton machine is still so potent and filled with intelligent experience, why are they running the most ineffective and inefficient campaign outside of the Giuliani group? (must be somthing in the water in NY).
2) If Hillary, the overwelming favorite of this election season from the beginning, could not solidy the Dem party and build momentum for November, then how will she bring together two parties which are constantly at each other's throats?
3) How low is Hillary willing to go to turn the tide in this primary? She has resorted to tears on the eve of 2 pivotal elections (New Hampshire and Super Tuesday). Pandering for sympathetic votes does not strike me as the actions of a "tough and proven leader".
Posted by: Will J | February 23, 2008 11:30 AM
Jones, your entire post is so blatantly false that it's pathetic.
Posted by: lhummer | February 23, 2008 11:31 AM
I see Obama as the guy who would sweet talk a girl, telling her that he'll marry her... then when he gets what he wanted, he ditch her and run. When Obama speaks, he melts people, but there is no substance behind it. He tells you what you want to hear. Why are people so foolish? It is obvious that Hillary has the experience and the know-how to get things done. Vote for Hillary!
Posted by: Alex | February 23, 2008 11:32 AM
Hillary Clinton’s campaign has been, according to most accounts, very poorly managed. She had the allure of the Clinton name and the political clout behind it, the money, and a substantial lead in almost every national poll. Her supporters and much of the news media will say that her campaign managers bear the blame for her many failures, but the reality is that the buck must stop with her. If she lacks the organizational skills to run her own campaign, how can we expect her to be able to run the country? Barack Obama, on the other hand, has run a masterful political campaign. He was the underdog from the beginning as the entire country anticipated Hillary’s coronation. But he has proven to be a superb organizer and has shown a great many Americans that he possesses the skills to lead the nation. While there is still a chance for the Clinton machine to rebound, the odds of that happening get longer with each passing day. More and more superdelegates are gravitating towards Obama. They surely realize the truth in what Damon Runyon observed. “The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but that’s sure the way to bet.”
Posted by: lhummer | February 23, 2008 11:34 AM
"After all the nasty people in the Obama campaign, if he makes the primary I will lead the charge for McCain. Anybody, but Obama and his nasty campaigners" Marie
What nasty people? The ones who compared Obama to Jesse Jackson and referred to his position against the Iraq War from the beginning as a 'fairy tale'? Ohhhh, the nasty people who called the major news networks to report that Obama used a few of Deval Patrick's lines? The nasty people who clipped one line of Michelle Obama's statements and tried to make a huge issue of interpreting it. Not those people? It's silly to take the campaigning season personally. The issues should be taken personally, but the messages of well-financed professional campaigners is just a commercial message.
Relax and enjoy the summer. After seeing McCain speak about Iran and Iraq, and the eventual crumbling of the Al-Sadr ceasefire, I'm hopeful that you won't back a 72 year old warhawk with a bad temper who also admits that he doesn't know about the economy.
Posted by: karl | February 23, 2008 11:36 AM
I am Voting Democrat no matter who gets the nomination. I don't wanna vote for Hillary, but I might have to. Obama scares the republican party and Billary because of his ability to atract voters who would never vote in the first place. It's funny to see all the anti-Obama statements on this site because it adds momentum to his campaign. Grant it, this isn't read by every voter. But just think of the of all the young voters who are still waiting to vote that are pretty much enjoying the reaction that they know they have been and can continue to be a major part of. Obama HAS inspired many voters to vote period. stop being scared and vote him out in 4 years if he is as bad as you all say he is.
Posted by: Ramon T | February 23, 2008 11:36 AM
1) The Clintons gave us the greatest economic period in the history of the United States. There were two high paying jobs for every American.
2) Not one American soldier died in combat during the Clinton years (Bush Sr. sent our troops to Somalia, not the Clintons).
3) When Hillary Clinton becomes President, every American will have Universal Health Care coverage.
4) The Clintons have a proven track record of success. Obama has never accomplished anything for America. Obama is nothing more than meaningless rhetoric.
5) While the Clintons were repairing the damage done to our economy by Reagan and Bush Sr, Obama was riding a surf board in Hawaii.
6) America needs Clinton's experience, proven track record, and wisdom. Clinton is a Journeyman. Obama is a cheerleader.
Posted by: Steve | February 23, 2008 11:36 AM
If anyone has read that Mr. Obama wants to extend the retirement age at which you draw your social security. I think you better think twice before voting for him. Who wants to work until they're 75 before they can retire? SAme old rhetoric. The president can only do what congress will allow. So before you blame all the war and things on the republicans think about all the democrats that voted for it. President Bush did'nt even get his feet wet when he had to deal with horrible things. It has been one crisis after another. People need to look to Jesus Christ and follow his examples. He said there would be wars and rumors of war before the end of time. Are we ready to live like Jesus did. Love thy neighbor as thyself. Do you love yourself? What would Jesus
do?
Do you want a muslim for president? Do you want someone who is not afraid to stand up for America? Do you want someone that will stand up for mankind? Who will it be? Any of the chosen ones? People everywhere should pray that
the Lord Jesus Christ would be glorified in this country again. God will forsake the peoples that forget him. The Bible says so.
Posted by: Lee | February 23, 2008 11:45 AM
Listen to Hillary's speeches. She prefaces most remarks with "I". Obama prefaces most remarks with "We" Does that tell you something???
Posted by: Ron Moore | February 23, 2008 11:46 AM
I have seen Obama speak to the large crowds on television & all I see is a preacher. Selling to the young people only hope. Is this where our young people are? I know that living in the south if he is the nominee I hear my neighbors saying that they will vote independent if there is a candidate or republican. It is sad that there is still a lot of bigots in this contry. I do not understand these people because I was brought up to accept everyone for what they are. I know about being discriminated against even today. College educated are not as informed as they should be. Some do not even recoganize the candidates when they are shown their pictures or what they are running for what office. Sad even some who are studying to be teachers.Like I say Obama is a wonderful preacher.
Posted by: Ruth Zimmer | February 23, 2008 11:49 AM
Hillary will win Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island. Anyone that believes she is " done" is not looking ahead.
She is the most qualified candidate. She also attends a church that ALL Americans can attend regardless of race, as well as a true concern and change agent for ALL Americans rights, regardless of race, religion, or gender. After reading the Newsmax.com article on The real Barack Obama yesterday, he does not now or ever get my vote. CHOOSE Hillary. A President for all the People! And a candidate that is PROUD of her country every day of her life. As one should be that wants to represent ALL Americans and America, our great nation!
Posted by: PMC | February 23, 2008 11:49 AM
So Strickland supports Hillary because Bill threatened to veto an important funding bill that had removed one of Strickland's pork barrel earmarks.
Sweeeeet....
Reason 10,204 to never vote for a Clinton again.
Posted by: Gideon, Chicago, IL | February 23, 2008 11:52 AM
To N.G.
Not sure where the vitriolic rhetoric comes from, or the Huckabee stats for that matter. The fact is that I actually voted for Strickland in 2006 (along with my favorite Senator, Sherrod Brown) while I still lived in Cleveland. True, I will not be there to vote for him next time because I don't live there anymore. I was merely commenting on the effect of this endorsement, which I still believe will help Hillary slightly in the primary but hurt Strickland's chances to be re-elected. I have no problem if you disagree, but no need to be nasty about it (Blow Whale?!? C'mon, have some decency and cut the name-calling).
Posted by: B.W. | February 23, 2008 11:53 AM
Has everyone in Ohio completely forgotten about the "..THE HILLARY CLINTON INSIDER COMMODITIES TRADING DEAL..", "..THE B0OK DEALS..", "..THE OVERPAID $150K+ WALL STREET STARTER JOB FOR CHELSEA..", "..THE WHITEWATER SCANDAL..", "..THE WHITE HOUSE TRAVEL OFFICE SCANDALS..",,ETC., ETC., ETC., - after her whacko, sleazoid of a husband's "..I DIDN'T INHALE.." & "..i DIDN'T HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN.." horsepucky..?!?!?
Do the Clinton's really think that calling in their last favor from the current Democratic Blow-hard 1-term-only Governor will cause the people of Ohio to ignore Hillary's megalomaniac ego, personal attacks on Obama, and the massive favors she's owes to the entrenched grossly-left-wing liberal Politicos in New York City - where the Midwest is some foreign wasteland except for the benefit of the leftovers of the old DALEY MACHINE..!?!
OHIO for OBAMA in 2008..!!!!
Go Barach.........!!!!
.
Posted by: johnm | February 23, 2008 11:56 AM
Democrats are lucky this primary season. We have to strong candidates. We love Obama and Hillary. In November we could vote for either. I'm an Obama supporter, and yes I do admit I don't know all of his accomplishments. I do know he has show great savvy in looking beyond Feb 5; it shows he will be a President that understands today and looks and is prepared for the future. I see the wisdom of cultivating and communicating with the American people. Hillary is a great candidate. She has been degraded, humiliated, and simply stripped of her humanity, because she has spoken, fought like a dog so that the average mom and dad can bring home the bacon. Yes, the establishment supported by so called conservatives don't care about her as a human. Because, she is the one that makes it clear that the she will shake their "pinata" and make them give back to the big bosses has taken away by manipulating Washington. Some people say Hillary has a lot of baggage,I say she has a lot of wounds and scars born out of the many battles the Clintons have waged for the single mom, the mentally ill and homeless children. Hillary would be the front runner today if she would have had a way to connect with people. People are aware of her name. She needs to remind the public that she is their pitbull ready to attack to protect them. She has to be aggressive with her wit and wisdom. She knows the job of the President. She can do it. She knows what she wants to do. The way to do it is, by going after her toughest critics. Obama is not her enemy. The wrongs of the last eight years are. She needs to be confrontational with her critics (on the Huckabee side), and those who are more than happy to maintain the status quo. Unlike Obama she can't afford to be a little bit of everything to everybody. She needs to be a woman, and proud to be, she needs to be for liberal values and everything that is good about thinking on your own. She needs to say invest in small business, invest in education, fight big oil with corn from farmers, and break big oil into smaller companies, she needs to offer better solutions. I'm Hillary and I have solutions don't cut it. The solutions she brings must be simple, clearly on the little guys court. Forced mortgage companies into modifying loans, and safeguards against current foreclosures. She needs to say immigrants expands our tax base, and customer base, and demand for domestic products.
There is a lot of hypocrisy on the conservative side. How can we do business with China and not Cuba. They are both communists, they both have atrocious human rights records. So, why are they treated differently. That is why Obama is ahead, and shows his marketing smarts. It is not the product, it is the gift wrap. (Both products on the democratic side are excellent).
Posted by: Willie | February 23, 2008 11:56 AM
I would like to compare Clinton and Obama to two of the greatest Heavyweight boxers that have ever lived, Rocky Marciano and Muhammed Ali. Clinton being Marciano, took on all comers bigger, small etc. you name it he fought them all and won, changing boxing for ever. Obama being Ali,claimed to be the greatest of them all floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee. I love Ali. However, Marciano is still the greatest. Clinton will deliver the knockout blow to Washington politics.
Posted by: GDP | February 23, 2008 11:58 AM
Hillary has experience - doing what? Bill Clinton described Obama as a fairy tale. Hillary and Bill were a soap opera.
AlAnon NarAnon are for spouses of addicts. The spouse is usually as sick or sicker thatn the addict.
Send Hillary to rehab.
Give John McCain the room next.
Maybe once she gets into a twelve step program, she will come out and make amends to Monica.
And, maybe McCain will look at how he covered up his wife's stealing
Posted by: Nelson Peebles | February 23, 2008 11:58 AM
I am a democrat, raised by generations of deomocrats.
This year I will be voting republican. I cannot trust my vote to either of them.
They are all politicians. Period. A necessary evil.
They all tell you what you want to hear and change into the monsters they are as soon as they get into office.
So basically, no matter who you vote for, you will be getting the same product. Even with that in mind, I still cannot bring myself to vote democratic this year.
See you at the poles!
Posted by: Bemused in Ohio | February 23, 2008 12:02 PM
The politics of self-interest.
Posted by: Peter Nevins | February 23, 2008 12:02 PM
I'm not convinced Obama will do as good of a job with the economy as Hillary can.
I think she'll better handle a recession, job losses, foreclosures, credit issues.
Both Obama's and Clinton's healthcare plans are better than what we have now, but I seem to trust Hillary's plan more b/c it's more specific and reasonable.
Posted by: Jack - Columbus, OH | February 23, 2008 12:02 PM
I was struck by Gov Strickland's appearance on Meet the Press two weeks ago. Asked about the superdelegates and the Florida, Michigan elections, and trying gamely to support Hillary, he was forced into a position that was illogical and dishonest. He began sweating and shaking quite obviously in one of the more dramatic "tells" I ever seen. It is sad to see a politician who cannot lie effectively on TV.
Posted by: Ted Hoise | February 23, 2008 12:03 PM
I'm not convinced Obama will do as good of a job with the economy as Hillary can.
I think she'll better handle a recession, job losses, foreclosures, credit issues.
Both Obama's and Clinton's healthcare plans are better than what we have now, but I seem to trust Hillary's plan more b/c it's more specific and reasonable.
Posted by: Jack - Columbus, OH | February 23, 2008 12:03 PM
The first writer is using fear-mongering to discourage honest support of Senator Hillary Clinton for president. Governor Strickland has a long relationship with Senator Clinton and is well positioned to know how capable she is. He has seen her skills, values, and intelligence for himself.
We need more than a shoe shine and smile in our next president. We've had other presidents who are swept into office with similar promises--George W. Bush being the most recent. Just look at what resulted when people vote for promises and overlook substance.
I want to know the details and substance of a candidate's platform. Where's the beef?
The Republicans will eat Obama for lunch. They are making their plans now.
For president, I want someone I can trust, who shares my views and values, and who has a long and consistent record of concern for the social good.
Obama's record is weak and inconsistent. He talks pretty, but I want substance.
If he becomes president, I hope he can deliver on his promises. Otherwise, we are in for more years like the past eight. That is not change.
That is tragedy.
Jane Gilgun
Posted by: Jane Gilgun | February 23, 2008 12:03 PM
One of my favorite features of online news is the post a comment feature. It provides amazing insight into people's minds. It also shows how little effort people make to research political candidates, and how simplistic many of the judgments are. The same could be said for journalists.
Like other people have said, take the time to look at congressional voting records and read each candidates position statements at their websites. Then, make up your mind.
I do want to point out that if you take a more expansive view of the Anti-Christ, and understand that it might not be one person but a regular repeating character of history, then there might be other leaders (past and present) who better fit the category than any current candidate. Just a "though".
Posted by: Paul Hebblethwaite | February 23, 2008 12:06 PM
Will J.
"1) If the Clinton machine is still so potent... why are they running the most ineffective and inefficient campaign outside of the Giuliani group?"
Oh, please. What about Kucinich's or Biden's campaign??
You lose your point.
Posted by: Barry | February 23, 2008 12:09 PM
After perusing the pros and cons of the posts, listening to the Obama-Hillary debates, reading the leading publishers' positions, attention to TV news analyses, scratching my head, and arguments with my wife, I still haven't decided who to vote for...Hillary, Obama or McCain???? Sorry to say: It's a hell of a choice...we're damned whoever wins.
Posted by: Ludwig | February 23, 2008 12:10 PM
Democrats are lucky this primary season. We have to strong candidates. We love Obama and Hillary. In November we could vote for either. I'm an Obama supporter, and yes I do admit I don't know all of his accomplishments. I do know he has show great savvy in looking beyond Feb 5; it shows he will be a President that understands today and looks and is prepared for the future. I see the wisdom of cultivating and communicating with the American people. Hillary is a great candidate. She has been degraded, humiliated, and simply stripped of her humanity, because she has spoken, fought like a dog so that the average mom and dad can bring home the bacon. Yes, the establishment supported by so called conservatives don't care about her as a human. Because, she is the one that makes it clear that the she will shake their "pinata" and make them give back to the big bosses has taken away by manipulating Washington. Some people say Hillary has a lot of baggage,I say she has a lot of wounds and scars born out of the many battles the Clintons have waged for the single mom, the mentally ill and homeless children. Hillary would be the front runner today if she would have had a way to connect with people. People are aware of her name. She needs to remind the public that she is their pitbull ready to attack to protect them. She has to be aggressive with her wit and wisdom. She knows the job of the President. She can do it. She knows what she wants to do. The way to do it is, by going after her toughest critics. Obama is not her enemy. The wrongs of the last eight years are. She needs to be confrontational with her critics (on the Huckabee side), and those who are more than happy to maintain the status quo. Unlike Obama she can't afford to be a little bit of everything to everybody. She needs to be a woman, and proud to be, she needs to be for liberal values and everything that is good about thinking on your own. She needs to say invest in small business, invest in education, fight big oil with corn from farmers, and break big oil into smaller companies, she needs to offer better solutions. I'm Hillary and I have solutions don't cut it. The solutions she brings must be simple, clearly on the little guys court. Forced mortgage companies into modifying loans, and safeguards against current foreclosures. She needs to say immigrants expands our tax base, and customer base, and demand for domestic products.
There is a lot of hypocrisy on the conservative side. How can we do business with China and not Cuba. They are both communists, they both have atrocious human rights records. So, why are they treated differently. That is why Obama is ahead, and shows his marketing smarts. It is not the product, it is the gift wrap. (Both products on the democratic side are excellent).
Posted by: Willie | February 23, 2008 12:18 PM
We LOVE Hillary and can't wait to vote for her in Ohio. We also love Ted Strickland, he's a great governor and very popular in Ohio.
We are Dems who have never voted for a Republican, but if the Dems squander their best chance for victory in November by nominating an unelectable Obama, we will vote for McCain. We know many other Dems who will do the same.
Reason? Obama is not qualified to be President of the United States. Obama is ruining the Dem party and ruining our chances of victory in November.
Country first. Party second.
VOTE SMART! VOTE HILLARY!
Posted by: James and Jen | February 23, 2008 12:21 PM
"Clinton will deliver the knockout blow to Washington politics."
Obama will be seeing a therapist to cure him from stuttering/fumbling/babbling when it comes to real issues
Posted by: Jkan | February 23, 2008 12:27 PM
"..fought like a dog so that the average mom and dad can bring home the bacon.."
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...!!! That's certainly not what it appears that Hillary has been doing doggy-like to the rest of us..!!!
Hillary gets by with univestigated INSIDER COMMODITIES TRADING, she was clearly in control of what went on in the CLINTON WHITE HOUSE TRAVEL OFFICE, she comes up with MEGA-$$$ book deals for works that possess less literary quality than The Cat in the Hat, and no lives in her "..New York Mansion.." funded by Hebrew Bourough-Masters in NYC because she couldn't get elected to Dog Catcher if she ran from Arkansas - "..her real home.."!!!
Take the blinders off, folks.
The NEW YORK-controlled ULTRA-LEFT POLITICAL TAX-&-SQUANDER MACHINE is desperate to pump up Hillary in Ohio, because they have absolutely no control over Barach Obama and his wife - or life..!!!
How many more Ohio and US taxpayer "..Big Dig.." screw jobs should the Buckeyes blindly support..?!?
"..GOoooooooooo....BARACH..."!!!
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Posted by: johnm | February 23, 2008 12:27 PM
Endorsements only mean something when they are for Hillary...
Posted by: kww | February 23, 2008 12:29 PM
Posted by: Kwame Mensan | February 23, 2008 11:13 AM -- "Isn't Ted Strickland old enough to know that Hillary voted for the war in Iraq that is costing billions of American's tax payers money, money that could be better spent elsewhere to boost the crumbling economy?"
Kwame, may I suggest that you and many others look at these two very thought provoking alternaitve views. The first could show that what you are declaring here is basically false and quite typical Hillary Clinton bashing propaganda and nothing more. Yes she voted for the war as did nearly 3/4 of the Senate, both Republican and Democrat. But if you'd take the time to understand exactly why that vote was cast in MOST instances, as well as the total and quite raw ethos that had enrapped our entire nation at that time (9/11 was still very fresh in our minds AND Hussein HAD used weapons of mass destruction before and who was to say he would not use them again)...well, just read this and at very least try to understand it:
http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html
Now, for an opposing point of view for just maybe why it's not such a great idea to simply pack up and leave Iraq "within a year" as Clinton's opponent Senator Obama has promised would happen, or even begin to start withdrawing "within 60 days" as Senator Clinton has proposed (albeit she HAS indicated she would listen to her major military advisers to try to do it "carefully", whereas I have not heard Senator Obama say the same thing just that he would pull out ASAP) please read this:
http://www.politicalrealityonline.com/
Come on people, let's really start looking at ALL of these candidate's with a clear and unbiased viewpoint. Compare and contrast each and every candidate on the important issues facing us today, not on all the clearly biased propaganda floating around, then vote in good conscience for the betterment of our country as a whole. These issue really are bigger than any one of these candidates and there "personalities" or perceived lack thereof.
Posted by: Kris in PA | February 23, 2008 12:35 PM
Who cares if Obama is Muslim or Christian-there are plenty of good Muslims and plenty of good Christians as well as every other religion.
Posted by: Y Woodard | February 23, 2008 12:37 PM
It's amusing how Obama's detractors try to portray him as a cult figure, anti-christ, or Hitler. The man touches a chord within may voters, many of whom are young. It is an insult to 18 - 24 year olds (many of whom are well educated) to assume that they'e just nieve or delusional. Senator Obama is effective in this demographic for several reasons:
1) He identified this group early in his campaign and has remained dedicated to engaging them in the process.
2) He appeals to many of them because of his stance against the Iraqi war.
3) He has been a huge proponent of making college affordable, offering a $4000 credit to students who commit to 100 hours of community service (He's not just telling them what they want to hear. He supports them, but they have to commit to helping their communities).
So stop insulting the intelligence and political awareness of young voters and acknowledge that there are plenty of specfics in his celebrated stump speeches.
Posted by: Will J | February 23, 2008 12:42 PM
Governor Strickland's reason for supporting Hillary smacks of the old political act of favors and back scratching. How about spending bills being graded on the need and value delivered to citizens. This old time tit for tat favors is just what hillary would conitnue to offer, How many ways can she be bought?
Posted by: lee | February 23, 2008 12:44 PM
The last base Hillary has is White women they want to make up for years of gender-base racism. But the Hillary is a politican she is a fighter and if elected that is what we will get a fighter. And the fight will become the show not what is good for America. It is her way or no way she is the smartest person in the room and will prove it. Sorry, I just can not fall for this trick again. I belive that Obama will hold my needs over the parties views. She has had 20+ years to foster friendship's and look at where she is no plan to win the contast thought it would be given to her for past hard work. The time to work is now. I wish I could write a 5 million dollar check! Get real they are rich we are poor.
Posted by: Ken | February 23, 2008 12:45 PM
In reply to the following comment,you have to be kidding! Your words are pure agism. 60 year olds can be extremely adaptable to modern technology. My 77 year old mother has made millions with an online retail business she started when she was 67. And all of her customers are over 45. I don't know if maybe you have premature Alzheimer's running in your family, but I only observe admirable adaptation to modern times in the seniors I know. You said: "She is also sixty years old: too old for the arduousness and fast pace of today's world and technology."
Posted by: Fern | February 23, 2008 12:50 PM
It's amusing how Obama's detractors try to portray him as a cult figure, anti-christ, or Hitler. The man touches a chord within may voters, many of whom are young. It is an insult to 18 - 24 year olds (many of whom are well educated) to assume that they'e just nieve or delusional. Senator Obama is effective in this demographic for several reasons:
1) He identified this group early in his campaign and has remained dedicated to engaging them in the process.
2) He appeals to many of them because of his stance against the Iraqi war.
3) He has been a huge proponent of making college affordable, offering a $4000 credit to students who commit to 100 hours of community service (He's not just telling them what they want to hear. He supports them, but they have to commit to helping their communities).
So stop insulting the intelligence and political awareness of young voters and acknowledge that there are plenty of specfics in his celebrated stump speeches.
Posted by: Will J | February 23, 2008 12:54 PM
This isn't rocket science, people! Use your common sense, and vote for the candidate with the qualifications (experience) ... it's not even a close call at all. All those "inspirational" speeches will do the American people little good the day after Election Day! It will be too late then to "wake-up"! We don't need another eight years of "Buyers' Remorse"!! Hillary can easily stand against the GOP on her OWN credentials ...but we'd be stupid to overlook the "two-for-one" deal that we'd be getting: an eight year President with no peer since JFK. It's the opportunity that we'll never see again in our lifetimes! Think HARD people, before you get caught-up in this cult-like Obama enthusiasm. The recent run of Obama victories does not speak well of the intelligence of our populace.
Posted by: Orv | February 23, 2008 12:55 PM
Response to Barry: "1) If the Clinton machine is still so potent... why are they running the most ineffective and inefficient campaign outside of the Giuliani group?"
Oh, please. What about Kucinich's or Biden's campaign??
You lose your point.
Barry, you are a typical Clinton supporter, focusing on the less important aspects of a point than the truth. My point still applies. Biden and Kucinich did not come into the primary as the presumptive nominee, nor did they have nearly as much $. The mere fact that Clinton remains in the race while they do not is only a reflection of her overhyped status and advantage in superdelegates (which is being squandered more with each passing day).
Just answer this question, Barry. Is she running an efficient, intelligent campaign? And save the media bias excuses for your "HRC for president" support group.
Posted by: Will J | February 23, 2008 1:02 PM
Obama 'folks' make me laugh. They laud him for doing well in college..so what? Its not how well you do in school but what you actually accomplish with that knowledge. He plagiarizes, he does drugs, he dumps his long time friends like Rezko on national tv-even when his friends are actually kind enough to help him actualize an 800,000 gain on his house in Chicago's south side, he stands in front of kids and tells them it is OK to do drugs and break the laws..but he will not stand up for the Jenna 5 or hire minority people in his top tier of his campaign. Yes that education does not give him integrity or courage..running from 140 important decisions in the Illinois Congress is a really really big accomplishment. Get over it. Your Obama is human, in fact, a little less courageous than most, but human. Based on his real record to date I will not vote for him because I think he will be a repeat of Jimmy Carter who is a nice man but left us in Gas Lines for the term of his presidency and gave our country back to the Repub. because he lacked the guts to even keep the lights on in the face of the Arabs who controlled all the oil coming into America. So HRC gets my vote and $$$ and I will wait and watch to see if an Obama can actually start doing something starting with standing up for those poor kids he influences when they all do drugs like him.
Posted by: MMiller | February 23, 2008 1:05 PM
Who cares about THIS ONE GOVERNOR? He may be a nice guy, but he obviously doesn't respect the will of the American people!
Right now, Superdelegates are flocking to Obama. The shift in support shows real character. They are truly patriotic do not want to overrule the voice of the people. This election is basically over.
Texas Rep. Aaron Pena, who recently endorsed Hillary Clinton, just issued the following statement:
"I think last night''s debate in Austin was a turning point in this campaign. I made a commitment to Hillary Clinton and I must maintain it. I gave my word. However, as an observer, it appears to be increasingly evident who is going to win."
The next day he spoke at a Barack Obama rally.
OBAMA 08!!! YES WE CAN!!!
Posted by: mia | February 23, 2008 1:08 PM
The comparisons between Obama and Bush are quite amusing... I'll give it to you that they are both inexperienced, but we knew Bush was a dummy, he couldn't even pronounce the word "nuclear" and talked about his "strategery" in foreign affairs. Whereas we know Obama is at least an intelligent individual... he was a constitutional law professor afterall; not the CEO of a failed oil company or the inept owner of a baseball team who didn't even have a full grasp of the English language like Bush.
Posted by: Bruce | February 23, 2008 1:10 PM
Orv,
You are a great representative of the typical Clinton supporter:
"The recent run of Obama victories does not speak well of the intelligence of our populace".
It's the same tired argument HRC's campaign has asserted on several occassions as excuses for losing: "Bill never won Maine", "Caucuses are not fair (even though they've been a part of the primary process for centuries- now all of a sudden they're undemocratic. How convenient!)
Basically "If you don't think like me or agree with me, then you are clearly intellectually inferior" That perpetuates one of the worst perceptions of HRC: that she regards herself as the smartest person in the room. It has lead to her demonizing opponents and insulting a huge part of the electorate who have not chosen her. Again the "cult" reference is becoming the catchphrase of a campaign that is losing steam. It is time for her overpaid strategists to start earning their money and come up with a more compelling argument.
Posted by: Will J | February 23, 2008 1:17 PM
I hope Clinton wins OH. I like Obama in many ways, but I'm really put off by this Obamamania -- the lack of criticism given to his policies, lack of any critical media coverage, his followers not knowing or caring that he might not adequate experience for the job, etc. It seems that what he offers, and what his followers find so inspiring about him, is just symbolism. They can "join his movement" and feel like they're part of the Civil Rights movement. How very corporate...and ultimately empty. As many have noted, he talks about "change," but his policies are just as partisan as anyone else's.
Posted by: Tara | February 23, 2008 1:25 PM
I was initially considering to vote for Hillary and also sent her with my hard earned money. I wish I could get my money back for Obama.I resent the fact that Hillary thinks she knows everything and has solutions to everything.
She is a Scientist, Engineer, Chemist, Biologist, Computer Scientist, she is a Medical Doctor, she goes to the Space Station and fixes everything, she is inventing a new Internet as Al Gore did.
To me this Solutions for evrythin by Mrs. Solutions has turned me completely OFF about Hillary. She does not seem to know the role of the President of United States. Americans have solutions to the challenges of today not by Mrs. Clinton. What America needs is a leader to inspire them to do what they have proven to do. When JFK told America to go to the moon, he did not even know how to use computer but he inspired the American people to go to the moon.
This non-sense of Mrs. Solutions, Mrs. Know all, Mrs. Do all, Mrs. Control all, Mrs solve problem all is very annoying to say the least.
GOOD Luck President Solutions.
Posted by: Ava | February 23, 2008 1:25 PM
I am truly amazed that, in this day and age, we have a governor of Ohio who is, by his own admission, illiterate.
Posted by: converse | February 23, 2008 1:37 PM
So you didn't print my lengthy comment. Research and think and you'll see the truth Mr. Writer. But your mockiing and scouffing got in the way. Poor poor thang that you are.
Posted by: MissClarity | February 23, 2008 1:47 PM
When Hillary loses Ohio(and she will) I'm singing"Ding dong the withch is dead!!!" I don't know who said this but I agree with the statement"The Clintons are to good government what the Mafia is to business". As a Republican I'd rather run against Obama, because he does not seem as ruthless as the Clintons. THEY WILL DO ANYTHING including taking dirty money from the Chinese Communists.
Posted by: Nancy | February 23, 2008 1:49 PM
Go Barack......this is the right time.We cannot wait any longer...Of course, if you do not deliver , you are out in 4 short years. what is so difficult for people to understand about that....or is it the fact that even though Bush/Chenney messed us all up the first four years and we still re-selected them scare some of you...GO Texas, Go Ohio Vote Barack.
Posted by: dave | February 23, 2008 1:53 PM
This race is over!!!
Right now, Superdelegates are flocking to Obama. The shift in support shows real character. They are truly patriotic do not want to overrule the voice of the people. Further, a return to the Clinton Dynasty may be less and less appealing as we begin to reflect on the reality of the past:
HILLARY CLINTON AS FIRST LADY / NY SENATOR:
Hillary Clinton often says that she should be President because of her experience, including 8 years as First Lady and 6 as NY Senator. This is her record for that period of time:
As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her OWN PARTY at the time! (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate, due in part to her nasty and divisive tactics.) Bill and Hillary Clinton failed miserably to rally others around their cause because they simply do not know how to bring Democrats and Republicans together! Lately, Hillary speaks of her "friend" John McCain, trying to compete with Barack on this issue, but those who know her history realize it's just "politics as usual"
Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign!
Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (“FILEGATE”) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving 7 presidents for over thirty years.
In order to open “slots” in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a 30-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with any crime whatsoever (mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks). The jury acquitted him in less than 2 hours.
And then were the Bill Clinton "Bimbo Eruptions"... In the end, Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury. And hel was impeached by the House. AND HILLARY ALMOST GOT HERSELF INDICTED FOR PERJURY AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE (WHICH SHE AVOIDED MOSTLY BECAUSE SHE REPEATED, "I DO NOT RECALL," "I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION, AND "I DON'T KNOW" 56 TIMES UNDER OATH).
Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had STOLEN!!!
Hillary decided to run for the Senate in a state where she had never lived before simply because she thought it would be her best chance at winning.
In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary (as usual) played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully who was picking on her.
As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed NO MAJOR LEGISLATION! She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers.
Hillary's one notable vote: SUPPORTING THE PLAN TO INVADE IRAQ, which she has since disavowed and twisted, but refuses to admit was a mistake. Barack Obama, however, is the only '08 Democratic Presidential Candidate who had the good judgment to oppose the war from day one!
Posted by: mia | February 23, 2008 2:14 PM
Greetings, I guess because it is a slow news day, Michelle Obama is getting criticized for saying: For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country."
Some are suggesting she was unpatriotic in her statement, Mrs. McCain saying she has always been proud of this country. While this argument and issue is one of the stupidest things to make an issue out of, it begs the question, since both of them are at least 45 years old. Let's go back to 1963.
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country when Blacks were living under Jim Crow?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country when Blacks were being lynched?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country when it stripped Ali of his title?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country when 4 little girls were killed in Birmingham?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country during the Tuskegee Experiment?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud when male astronauts were sent to the moon and the female astronauts who trained along side them were shuttled into absurdity?
Let's move to the 70s
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country that women were stereotyped into stay at home moms, with no sight of getting into the Boardroom?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country when women were forced into shady clinics for pregnancy choices?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country when Vietnam Vets came home to homelessness because of no acknowledgment of PTSD?
And the 80s
Was Mrs. McCain proud of this country when it supported the
Apartheid government of South Africa?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of the Iran-Contra scandal?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of the S&L scandal?
The 90s
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of the lack of intervention in Rwanda?
*Was Mrs. McCain proud of the racist's immigration policy toward Haiti?
C'mon, outside of the fact that one is reaching for straws to even criticize such a statement, as a White American Woman I am sure there are more days when one felt ashamed of the government action of this country than proud... I guess that is the difference between Mrs. McCain and Mrs. Obama.
Posted by: Stacy Darling | February 23, 2008 2:19 PM
I have to laugh at those that say the Obama supporters are mean and nasty. Just look at the comment thread here. The majority of negative comments are directed at Obama and his supporters!
Here's a fine example:
"Think HARD people, before you get caught-up in this cult-like Obama enthusiasm. The recent run of Obama victories does not speak well of the intelligence of our populace."
Nice Orv, insulting the rest of those who disagree with your choice is really going win them over... Intelligence indeed!
Posted by: Scott in The South Loop | February 23, 2008 2:28 PM
The problem with Hillary Clinton is that despite all her so-called experience, which is dubious distinction to draw between herself and Mr. Obama, no one trusts her. Her long resume of LEGISLATIVE experience has not earned her anyones trust that she would be an effective EXECUTIVE. In fact, the opposite is true. Further, the last time she was in the white house, our government was paralized due to the toxic political enviroment that she and her husband helped to create. So if you ask me, the whole experience issue is a canard. What Americans ask themselves when looking for a President is, "Who do I Trust?" and "Who do I like?". More people, from more segments of society Trust and Like Barack Obama than Hillary Clinton. If you are still unclear as to what is at the core of the Change that Obama will bring, it is this: he will unite disparite groups and interests to forge agreements, make compromises and finally, after nearly 30 years of Bush/Clinton, MOVE THIS COUNTRY FORWARD. In short he will GOVERN and LEAD. If there is any shred of decency left in Hillarys jaundiced heart, she will arrive at the convention having read the writing on the wall, and become the kingmaker, maintaining, and even growing her power, by stepping aside and allowing Democrats to have their true nominee stand tall and declare his acceptance of the nomination as Democratic candidate for President of the United States.
Posted by: zkk | February 23, 2008 2:30 PM
strickland the SOS of why we need to get new credible face into white house,Barack Obama!!
Posted by: peter s brosig | February 23, 2008 2:38 PM
Like many others this election year I have had trouble putting my thoughts into words. Now, with the help of those more eloquent, I found my voice.
I send these thoughts to you in the love of true democracy and the hope that we might once again be a country united in love, peace, and freedom.
An inspirational voice for national unity, a woman became a lawyer, married a corporate lawyer and worked several years as a community organizer. She served as a state legislator for eight years and is a first term Senator. She is also the mother of two little girls, ages 9 and 6. She is the daughter of a white American mother and a black American father, so she is considered black in our race-conscious society.
This is the biography of wife, mother and Senator. but, is it the biography of someone you would support as leader of the most powerful county on earth?
If you are honest with yourself, the answer would be no and you are not alone. Gender is the largest obstacle facing American women. If the roles were reversed Mrs. Obama might not have even made it to the Senate.
John Kerry, in his endorsement of Barack Obama, said that it is time to turn the corner on American politics. What is really happening is that America, once again, is turning its back on American women.
This is not change. It’s simply America following historical patterns. If any woman had the audacity to use the style of Barack Obama, Bill Clinton or any other male running for high public office, they would have been considered too flamboyant, too emotional, by the political critics. They would have been out of the race long ago.
Why is it that the race issue is taken more seriously than the gender issue? Anything that concerns males, because it is still a male dominated world, is almost always deemed more important. The man is “better” suited. A man, regardless of race, and sometime ability, is an affirmation of masculinity.
In 1917 it was said that American women's patriotic duty in wartime is to be silent about everything except support for the troops and the Commander in Chief.
As Woodrow Wilson took office that year demonstrators took up positions outside the White House, holding round-the-clock vigils demanding the vote for women. The crowd, which did include men, wanted to expose the hypocrisy of “making the
world safe for democracy", when there was none at home. Banners read; “Mr. President, how long must women wait for liberty”? Please note, Black men had received the right to vote almost 50 years before.
The protests were almost continuous and the arrests began in June. “Obstructing traffic” was the usual charge. The protestors endured horrible conditions, but the government's tactics didn't work. On release from prison, women returned to the White House gates. Their ranks swelled until, November 14th, 1917: and what became known as the "Night of Terror".
W.H. Whittaker and his workhouse guards greeted 33 returning protestors. Forty-four club-wielding men beat, kicked, dragged and choked their charges, which included at least one 73-year-old woman.
Women were lifted into the air and flung to the ground. One was stabbed between the eyes with the broken staff of her banner. When the women went on a hunger strike, metal funnels were forced down their throats and food poured in. The effect was somewhat like that of water boarding. They were handcuffed to the bars of cells in torturous positions, and dragged by guards twisting their arms and hurled into concrete "punishment cells."
The pain, of this brutal night may have turned the tide. Less than two weeks later, a court-ordered hearing exposed to the world what these brave women had endured. The judge agreed they had been terrorized for nothing more than exercising their constitutional right to protest.
It would still take three more years to win the vote, but the courageous women of 1917 had won a new definition of female patriotism. The first of many "corners for the progress of women in America was turned.
All of the candidates have ideas, some of them sound pretty good. Ending our participation in the wars of Afghanistan and Iraq would be at the top of my list. Finding some sort of solution to the health care crisis would run a close second. These are goals of all the Democratic candidates. But there is only one person who truly has the background and experience to even make a dent in these problems.
I believe that Hillary Clinton exemplifies the courage of the women of 1917, those who came before and those who came after. American women of all backgrounds, rich and poor, Women of all colors and religions
I believe that with the help of the Congress and the Senate she might have a chance to bring her ideas to reality.
She offers no “pie-in-the-sky” Pollyanna promises. Instead she has solid plans that can begin almost at once. She knows and has worked with many international, national, and state leaders in; finance, education, health.
Hillary Clinton has more years in the Senate, an unprecedented eight years of on-the-job training in the White House, including being there when the first surpluses in thirty years were realized in the late 90’s. She has the potential to tap a huge reservoir of this county’s most talented by her example, and now the courage to break the no-tears rule.
I urge you to support Hillary Clinton for the 2008 Democratic nomination for President.
Thank you,
Cheryl M. Kimberley
The Nineteenth Amendment
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.
Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation
]The reason is complex, no matter what most men say, they feel
_____________
January 31, 2008
Night of Terror Leads to Women's Vote in 1917
Run Date: 10/29/04
By Louise Bernikow
WeNews historian
November 14, 1917: "Night of Terror" So Women Can Vote
(WOMENSENEWS)--American women's patriotic duty in wartime is to be silent about everything except support for the troops and the Commander in Chief. That was the general idea in 1917.
As Woodrow Wilson took office in January, demonstrators took up positions outside the White House, holding round-the-clock vigils demanding the vote for women. In spite of the on-going world war, they refused to step aside or muffle their demands.
Instead, Alice Paul, Lucy Burns and other members of the National Woman's Party aimed to humiliate the president and expose the hypocrisy of "making the world safe for democracy" when there was none at home. Their banners said, "Mr. President, how long must women wait for liberty." They hung Wilson in effigy and burned copies of his speeches.
Arrests began in June. "Obstructing traffic" was the usual charge, but many prison officials--as well as citizens--considered the suffragists traitors. In the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia, they ate rancid food; were denied medical care and refused visitors. The demonstrators applied for political prisoner status. It was denied.
But the government's tactic didn't work. On release from prison, women returned to the White House gates. Their ranks swelled. By November, there were more marches and more arrests. An investigation had been launched into conditions at Occoquan and the activities of its superintendent, W.H. Whittaker, whose special cruelty was well known.
Whittaker and his workhouse guards greeted 33 returning protestors on what has become known as the infamous "Night of Terror," November 14, 1917. Forty-four club-wielding men beat, kicked, dragged and choked their charges, which included at least one 73-year-old woman. Women were lifted into the air and flung to the ground. One was stabbed between the eyes with the broken staff of her banner. Lucy Burns was handcuffed to the bars of her cell in a torturous position. Women were dragged by guards twisting their arms and hurled into concrete "punishment cells."
For all the pain, this brutal night may have turned the tide. Less than two weeks later, a court-ordered hearing exposed the beaten women to the world and the judge agreed they had been terrorized for nothing more than exercising their constitutional right to protest. It would take three more years to win the vote, but the courageous women of 1917 had won a new definition of female patriotism.
Louise Bernikow is the author of seven books and numerous magazine articles. She travels to campuses and community groups with a lecture and slide show about activism called "The Shoulders We Stand On: Women as Agents of Change." She can be reached at weezieman@aol.com.
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A woman became a lawyer, married a corporate lawyer served several years as a community organizer and is the mother of two little girls, ages 9 and 6. She is the daughter of a white American mother and a black American father, so she is considered black in our race-conscious society.
She served as a state legislator for eight years, and as a first term Senator became an inspirational voice for national unity.
Do you really believe this is the biography of someone you could support for the Senate, let alone as the leader of the most powerful county on earth?
If you are honest with yourself, the answer would be no and you are not alone. Gender is the largest obstacle facing American women. John Kerry, in his endorsement of Barack Obama, said that it is time to turn the corner on American politics. What is really happening is America, once again, is turning its back on American women.
If it were not Barack but Achola Obama she probably would not have even made it to the Senate. Support for Mr. Obama is a continuation of the historical pattern of change in this country.
]The reason is complex, no matter what most men say, they feel
_____________
January 31, 2008
Night of Terror Leads to Women's Vote in 1917
Run Date: 10/29/04
By Louise Bernikow
WeNews historian
November 14, 1917: "Night of Terror" So Women Can Vote
(WOMENSENEWS)--American women's patriotic duty in wartime is to be silent about everything except support for the troops and the Commander in Chief. That was the general idea in 1917.
As Woodrow Wilson took office in January, demonstrators took up positions outside the White House, holding round-the-clock vigils demanding the vote for women. In spite of the on-going world war, they refused to step aside or muffle their demands.
Instead, Alice Paul, Lucy Burns and other members of the National Woman's Party aimed to humiliate the president and expose the hypocrisy of "making the world safe for democracy" when there was none at home. Their banners said, "Mr. President, how long must women wait for liberty." They hung Wilson in effigy and burned copies of his speeches.
Arrests began in June. "Obstructing traffic" was the usual charge, but many prison officials--as well as citizens--considered the suffragists traitors. In the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia, they ate rancid food; were denied medical care and refused visitors. The demonstrators applied for political prisoner status. It was denied.
But the government's tactic didn't work. On release from prison, women returned to the White House gates. Their ranks swelled. By November, there were more marches and more arrests. An investigation had been launched into conditions at Occoquan and the activities of its superintendent, W.H. Whittaker, whose special cruelty was well known.
Whittaker and his workhouse guards greeted 33 returning protestors on what has become known as the infamous "Night of Terror," November 14, 1917. Forty-four club-wielding men beat, kicked, dragged and choked their charges, which included at least one 73-year-old woman. Women were lifted into the air and flung to the ground. One was stabbed between the eyes with the broken staff of her banner. Lucy Burns was handcuffed to the bars of her cell in a torturous position. Women were dragged by guards twisting their arms and hurled into concrete "punishment cells."
For all the pain, this brutal night may have turned the tide. Less than two weeks later, a court-ordered hearing exposed the beaten women to the world and the judge agreed they had been terrorized for nothing more than exercising their constitutional right to protest. It would take three more years to win the vote, but the courageous women of 1917 had won a new definition of female patriotism.
Louise Bernikow is the author of seven books and numerous magazine articles. She travels to campuses and community groups with a lecture and slide show about activism called "The Shoulders We Stand On: Women as Agents of Change." She can be reached at weezieman@aol.com.
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A woman became a lawyer, married a corporate lawyer served several years as a community organizer and is the mother of two little girls, ages 9 and 6. She is the daughter of a white American mother and a black American father, so she is considered black in our race-conscious society.
She served as a state legislator for eight years, and as a first term Senator became an inspirational voice for national unity.
Do you really believe this is the biography of someone you could support for the Senate, let alone as the leader of the most powerful county on earth?
If you are honest with yourself, the answer would be no and you are not alone. Gender is the largest obstacle facing American women. John Kerry, in his endorsement of Barack Obama, said that it is time to turn the corner on American politics. What is really happening is America, once again, is turning its back on American women.
If it were not Barack but Achola Obama she probably would not have even made it to the Senate. Support for Mr. Obama is a continuation of the historical pattern of change in this country.
]The reason is complex, no matter what most men say, they feel
_____________
January 31, 2008
Night of Terror Leads to Women's Vote in 1917
Run Date: 10/29/04
By Louise Bernikow
WeNews historian
November 14, 1917: "Night of Terror" So Women Can Vote
(WOMENSENEWS)--American women's patriotic duty in wartime is to be silent about everything except support for the troops and the Commander in Chief. That was the general idea in 1917.
As Woodrow Wilson took office in January, demonstrators took up positions outside the White House, holding round-the-clock vigils demanding the vote for women. In spite of the on-going world war, they refused to step aside or muffle their demands.
Instead, Alice Paul, Lucy Burns and other members of the National Woman's Party aimed to humiliate the president and expose the hypocrisy of "making the world safe for democracy" when there was none at home. Their banners said, "Mr. President, how long must women wait for liberty." They hung Wilson in effigy and burned copies of his speeches.
Arrests began in June. "Obstructing traffic" was the usual charge, but many prison officials--as well as citizens--considered the suffragists traitors. In the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia, they ate rancid food; were denied medical care and refused visitors. The demonstrators applied for political prisoner status. It was denied.
But the government's tactic didn't work. On release from prison, women returned to the White House gates. Their ranks swelled. By November, there were more marches and more arrests. An investigation had been launched into conditions at Occoquan and the activities of its superintendent, W.H. Whittaker, whose special cruelty was well known.
Whittaker and his workhouse guards greeted 33 returning protestors on what has become known as the infamous "Night of Terror," November 14, 1917. Forty-four club-wielding men beat, kicked, dragged and choked their charges, which included at least one 73-year-old woman. Women were lifted into the air and flung to the ground. One was stabbed between the eyes with the broken staff of her banner. Lucy Burns was handcuffed to the bars of her cell in a torturous position. Women were dragged by guards twisting their arms and hurled into concrete "punishment cells."
For all the pain, this brutal night may have turned the tide. Less than two weeks later, a court-ordered hearing exposed the beaten women to the world and the judge agreed they had been terrorized for nothing more than exercising their constitutional right to protest. It would take three more years to win the vote, but the courageous women of 1917 had won a new definition of female patriotism.
Louise Bernikow is the author of seven books and numerous magazine articles. She travels to campuses and community groups with a lecture and slide show about activism called "The Shoulders We Stand On: Women as Agents of Change." She can be reached at weezieman@aol.com.
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A woman became a lawyer, married a corporate lawyer served several years as a community organizer and is the mother of two little girls, ages 9 and 6. She is the daughter of a white American mother and a black American father, so she is considered black in our race-conscious society.
She served as a state legislator for eight years, and as a first term Senator became an inspirational voice for national unity.
Do you really believe this is the biography of someone you could support for the Senate, let alone as the leader of the most powerful county on earth?
If you are honest with yourself, the answer would be no and you are not alone. Gender is the largest obstacle facing American women. John Kerry, in his endorsement of Barack Obama, said that it is time to turn the corner on American politics. What is really happening is America, once again, is turning its back on American women.
If it were not Barack but Achola Obama she probably would not have even made it to the Senate. Support for Mr. Obama is a continuation of the historical pattern of change in this country.
]The reason is complex, no matter what most men say, they feel
_____________
January 31, 2008
Night of Terror Leads to Women's Vote in 1917
Run Date: 10/29/04
By Louise Bernikow
WeNews historian
November 14, 1917: "Night of Terror" So Women Can Vote
(WOMENSENEWS)--American women's patriotic duty in wartime is to be silent about everything except support for the troops and the Commander in Chief. That was the general idea in 1917.
As Woodrow Wilson took office in January, demonstrators took up positions outside the White House, holding round-the-clock vigils demanding the vote for women. In spite of the on-going world war, they refused to step aside or muffle their demands.
Instead, Alice Paul, Lucy Burns and other members of the National Woman's Party aimed to humiliate the president and expose the hypocrisy of "making the world safe for democracy" when there was none at home. Their banners said, "Mr. President, how long must women wait for liberty." They hung Wilson in effigy and burned copies of his speeches.
Arrests began in June. "Obstructing traffic" was the usual charge, but many prison officials--as well as citizens--considered the suffragists traitors. In the Occoquan Workhouse in Virginia, they ate rancid food; were denied medical care and refused visitors. The demonstrators applied for political prisoner status. It was denied.
But the government's tactic didn't work. On release from prison, women returned to the White House gates. Their ranks swelled. By November, there were more marches and more arrests. An investigation had been launched into conditions at Occoquan and the activities of its superintendent, W.H. Whittaker, whose special cruelty was well known.
Whittaker and his workhouse guards greeted 33 returning protestors on what has become known as the infamous "Night of Terror," November 14, 1917. Forty-four club-wielding men beat, kicked, dragged and choked their charges, which included at least one 73-year-old woman. Women were lifted into the air and flung to the ground. One was stabbed between the eyes with the broken staff of her banner. Lucy Burns was handcuffed to the bars of her cell in a torturous position. Women were dragged by guards twisting their arms and hurled into concrete "punishment cells."
For all the pain, this brutal night may have turned the tide. Less than two weeks later, a court-ordered hearing exposed the beaten women to the world and the judge agreed they had been terrorized for nothing more than exercising their constitutional right to protest. It would take three more years to win the vote, but the courageous women of 1917 had won a new definition of female patriotism.
Louise Bernikow is the author of seven books and numerous magazine articles. She travels to campuses and community groups with a lecture and slide show about activism called "The Shoulders We Stand On: Women as Agents of Change." She can be reached at weezieman@aol.com.
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Posted by: Cheryl Kimberley | February 23, 2008 2:43 PM
I did a search on Google for Hillary Clinton Crime, I just wanted to refresh my memory of all the scandals and corruption of the "Clinton Era". Unfortunately, my eyes started to bleed before I could finish. I was amazed, but don't take my word for it, do it yourself.
Posted by: AntiSpinDoctor | February 23, 2008 2:43 PM
Support Hillary!
Keep the Illinois Combine out of the White House!
Posted by: MACK | February 23, 2008 2:49 PM
Whoever made the comment about sending Hillary to rehab needs to think twice about the candidate they are supporting.Obama has admitted to using drugs in his teenage years,and yes Bill Clinton did say he smoked marijuana but didn't inhale.But Bill is not running for president,Hillary is,and Hillary is an amazing and strong woman,and I've never heard anything about Hillary ever experimenting with drugs.She is an inspiration to me and to women all around the U.S. I am 25 years old and some of the women I go to college with support Obama and some support Hillary.I agree with the comment that said we are fortunate to have these 2 phenominal candidates running for president.I saw the debate on CNN and I have to admit that Hillary had the best moment of the debate at the end when they asked how she had dealt with crisis in her life.She gave a very humbling answer and she gave credit to the veterans and she said she was honored to share the stage with Senator Obama.Hillary's campaign never even mentioned Michelle Obama's comment about never being proud of her country in her adultlife until now.The rightwing media and McCain's wife made the comments about the possible future first lady never being proud of her country until now.So all of the hillary-haters,need to take a second look at Hillary and her experience instead of always throwing up things that Bill did.Hillary is more disciplined than Bill and she is a better politician.She gives answers to the questions we all have at this crucial point in history.She has a plan to boost the economy and provide universal healthcare to every single american.If she wasn't the more qualified candidate then she wouldn't have the endorsements of our great Gov.of Ohio,and the great Gov.of pennsylvania.I will stand behind Hillary all the way and I believe she will win Ohio by a big margin,Texas may be a close race but I believe Hillary will come out on top.If she does lose in Texas and she leaves the race,then I will support Obama.I am a democrat and just like Hillary says we want a democrat in the white house.I just wish Obama would be more specific about his plans for the economy and healthcare.But as long as Hillary is still on the ballot,I will pull that lever beside her name on March 4th.She has a great deal of support in Ohio from both women and men.Vote for Hillary in 2008!!!!
Posted by: hillfan in ohio | February 23, 2008 2:51 PM
I hope hillary wins she can get the us back on the right track .i live in michigan.a lot of small business are closing.
we the people. need to help
restructer and worry about
the U.S.A. WE NEED THE BIG CLINTON CHANGE TO SURVIVE
THESE TROUBLED TIMES.
I THINK SHE CAN DO THE RIGHT THING AND START TAKING CARE OF AMERICA.
Posted by: charles w corner | February 23, 2008 2:55 PM
"I am honored to be here with Barack Obama … whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people." –Hillary Clinton
The woman is a saint. Again, Hillary will be fine. She’s just worried about us. A day without her would be too terrible to contemplate. According to Hillary, the American people are down to their last Clinton. Well, their last chance to nominate a couple of Clintons – again. The problem with Hillary is that Hillary, is Hillary. She's got experience, all a charade. I’ve got no problem with Hillary being ready on day one, it’s day two that concerns me. It is my considered opinion that Barack Obama can best lead: http://theseedsof9-11.com
Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | February 23, 2008 2:56 PM
Although it may suffice to say that both Democratic candidates are equally qualified, I am appalled at the drivel that many of the posters here think is appropriate for a future presidential candidate. I mean the spin doctors are out there trying to hurt Obama and Clinton in any way possible, but maybe its my opinion but the Hillary camp is in full crisis mode trying to get the attention of voters and their future constituents. As great as a president Bill Clinton may have been, he charmed his way through Washington politics, and I for one know for a fact that Hillary does not have the same charm and poise to get things done. Yes, Obama may be inexperienced, and yes his name may not sound American enough to everyone out there, but honestly it is all a ruse for the failure of the American people to accept an up and coming young black man that has the Ivy league education, he has the community experience, and most importantly he has the aurating capabilities that one has come to expect of a great world leader, with the except of W of course. I also am quite offended at the fact that my constituent is constantly derided as being useless (18-24), but its not a problem of us being lazy or not caring but rather that we are agnostic about our political alliances, not wanting to believe the same old story that we have heard about before. Honestly, I could care less about the baby boomers needs and their firm grasp on America, the young generations are here too, and we have the ability to make a change. We have never been better educated, better parented, and governed, many of us are a product of the prosperous times of the 90's which honestly made me proud to be an Indian American, but as we can see, a poorly governed administration is enough to leave a sour taste of Americans in everyone's mouth. I do not appreciate, as I'm sure many of the same people my age agree, that we are a force to be reckoned with, the interest's of the up and coming Gen. X and Y's. More of us are graduating than ever before, and I demand my voice to be heard. My vote goes for Obama, and until Washington can do a thorough check of what their problems are, we can never solve the problems of the general consituency. and on a completely different side note, do people not have a fundamental objection to a presidential candidate who vehemently believes that a Christian God created this earth 6000 years ago? If we are trying to be taken seriously on a global scale Huckanomics is definetly not the way to go. I relish the fact that America is a secular nation, and be damned if a small minority (evangelicals) can control the politics of a vastly different America
Posted by: JoeV | February 23, 2008 2:59 PM
Please read the positions both candidates take before making up your minds. I am concerned by some of the comments against Obama. The person who directed me to the YouTube site featuring the state senator who could not name any legislation Obama sponsored offered me nothing of importance. Neither Obama not Clinton can stand behind every comment made by every person who supports them. The fact is that Obama's legislative record speaks for itself. Check it out for yourself. What is more important: what one long supporter does not know or what Obama actually did. Give me a break.
I am also tired of those who are critical of Obama's health care plan without looking at what it does. It is much more economically feasible and still offers coverage to everyone. Hillary had an opportunity to bring about universal health care in her husband's first term and failed miserably. It's time for a change; it's time for Obama.
Posted by: Martha | February 23, 2008 3:08 PM
Thanks to Michelle Obama!
Anyone with half a brain, half a heart, and any love for this country
should be able to understand why Michelle Obama's statement about being
proud of this country for the first time in her adult life was, right
on! If we delineate just a few of the shameful events over the past
twenty years, we can see that all of us should be extremely proud of
where we seemingly are today! I say seemingly, because we have no idea
how this will all end.
Over the past twenty years, the bulk of Michelle Obama's adult life, we
have had a litany of shameful events that have tried the resolve of
this great American people. We had the endless investigation of the
Clintons by Ken Ley, fueled by the fringe right, which netted a bill
to the taxpayers of millions. This was a waste of taxpayers' money and
it served to divide the political landscape into the dreaded liberal
and the righteous conservative and began the current Washington
gridlock.
The eight years of scandal and investigation during the Clinton
presidency, which ended in his impeachment for lying under oath about a
sexual encounter with Monica Lewinski, was shameful. Not only because
Clinton's behavior was outrageous, but also because the media and the
Clinton haters relished in every sordid detail at the expense of
national security. I remember cringing as I considered how the rest of
the world viewed the airing of such, dirty laundry on our nightly news
and how vulnerable we were making our president by the distraction. While this was going on, let's not forget the S&L fiasco -where millions of seniors lost their long earned retirement savings -involving Senator John McCain and his comrades (known as the Keating Five).
Immediately following these scandals, we had an election process where
a perfectly capable candidate, who would have led our country on a much
more positive trajectory, Al Gore, was lampooned by the so-called
unbiased press for not being exciting enough. Even though he won the
popular vote, the Supreme Court stole the presidency from him and gave
it to George Bush. Those were shameful days. Once the new
administration entered office, the president, George W. Bush, took the
first several months vacationing. When he did finally come up for air,
we found him reading a book to schoolchildren while airplanes crashed
into the twin towers. He then charted a course into a war with a
nation who had not attacked us and allowed those who did, to get away
into the mountains of Pakistan. Shame, shame, shame. By the way, he
lied to the American people, sent Colin Powell to lie to the U.N.,
allowed the outing of an American patriot spy doing work around the
very issues of terrorism and nuclear threats, commuted the sentence of
the one who lied about her outing, and continues to lie about the
rationale for attacking Iraq in the first place to this date. What a
damn shame!
Bill Clinton stood on the sidelines and made no comment about the march
to war, until it was too late. He watched Kerry's swift boating and
made no comment, I can only imagine why (Hillary's candidacy is no
fluke of timing). They should be ashamed.
Finally, in the course of fighting this untimely and unnecessary war
with Iraq, George Bush, has suspended habeas corpus for American
citizens that he label as enemy combatants, issued orders to telecom
companies to spy on American citizens, opened clandestine prisons
around the world, and has held prisoners in Guantanamo for the past six
years without trials or contact with their families. Shameful!
Let us not forget the Gonzalez gate scandals, where the nation's top
lawyer used his authority for political reasons and lied to Congress
about it. The aftermath of Katrina in the Gulf Coast that, to date, has
not been appropriately addressed is a scourge on our nation's
reputation. American soldiers unable to get their health needs
addressed by the Veterns Admnistration. Don't forget the way Cindy
Sheehan was ignored and ridiculed by George Bush and his legion. I am
ashamed!
After the past twenty years of this kind of scandal, incompetence, and
foolishness, we all should be sitting in sackcloth and ashes! Michelle
Obama's statement is what all thinking, feeling, and freedom-loving
Americans ought to be feeling about what looks like might be happening
- Americans are waking up from the darkness of the past twenty years.
The sun is shining again in America. I, for one, am extremely proud of
the way the American people are handling this campaign season, thus
far. I am proud that they are not allowing fear and bigotry to claim
their hearts and minds. I am proud that they are standing up for
themselves and taking back their rights to be participants and not
spectators in the political process. I am proud that someone is
reminding us of our duty, rights, and freedoms as citizens. I am proud
that someone has dared to attempt to raise the tone of our political
dialogue. I am most proud that our youth have found their political
voice and have decided to get engaged! In my view, this is one of
America's proudest moments! We are saying no to business as usual. We
are saying no to apathy. We are saying no to Bush and Clinton
dynasties! No, No, No!
This may all end up not far from where we started, but the journey is
well worth it try. Say what you will about Michelle Obama, but most of
us know that we are happy to walk in the sunlight again. Thank you
Michelle, for articulating how wonderful this time is for all of us.
Posted by: Stacy Darling | February 23, 2008 3:08 PM
I will vote for Hillary anyday i think all of you that think you want change just might be in for more than you think i would think long and hard before i accept change he says on the radio about money about people making more than others that is up to the company you work for not the president .Really take a look at where Obama came from and what change he can really make it truly is scary to think that you are ready for four years of change.Hillary is true and knows alot already and is not a just a good talker.I say you all that are putting down Hillary need to really listen to her and look at the back ground of Obama.
Posted by: mary ling | February 23, 2008 3:11 PM
Obama’s candidacy relies on blind allegiance to his Cult-leader persona. He is the Emperor with no clothes, substance or experience. I hope democratic voters in Ohio and Texas realize this before it is too late.
Posted by: JJ | February 23, 2008 3:12 PM
I am a registered democrat.
In Nov 2008, I will vote for democrats only if Hillary is on the ticket. If she is not, then I will vote for John Mccain. Never Obama.
I will feel sad to give 4 years to Republican , but you know, 4 years of John Mccain will be better for country (than 4 yrs for Obama)
Posted by: Angelica | February 23, 2008 3:14 PM
Wow,
the Hillary hacks are working overtime!
Must be desperate.
Yes - Hillary is a known quantity, which is why I'd rather take a gamble. Voting for Hillary is like going back to an abusive relationship - "Hey - at least I know what to expect!"
If she, for some terrible reason, gets the nod, I WILL vote for McCain.
Her camp simply does not realize that the country is tired of the fighting....and I suspect most republicans are also. At least Obama will offer a fig leaf. All HIllary knows how to do is make enemies and fight.
It's time to turn the page on this chapter in dyanstic presidencies.
Posted by: Luke | February 23, 2008 3:21 PM
I agree with you Martin.
I do not profess any type of religion.
What most people do not realize is that religions were made to control people's mind's and for the priests to enrich themselves.
The tax systems of the world come originally from
religious organizations who created the notion of
SIN and HELL ( Boo ! the devil is gonna get you ! )
in order to make people feel guilty.
The governments of the world subsequently adopted
this tax system.
The early christian cult, actually was an esoteric organization where initiates were trained on how to organize and control
the civilian government, brainwash and manipulate the masses with lunatic ideas, etc.
But since the majority of the people of those ancient times did rebel against too much taxation, intrusion in their private lives, soul terrorism and non non-sense concepts, those esoteric gurus came up with a wonderful idea:
Let us spread the news that
god ITSELF ( I use this word because god is not AN
INDIVIDUAL ) is going to incarnate in a man in order to redeem humanity.
Then we crucify him and say later that he died for
the sins of the people.
In that way, they ( the esoteric group ) were able to mentally condition the people to have a GUILTY CONSCIENCE.
And we know well the aphorisms cited.
The good sheperd
The sheep is easy to control and taken whenever
we wish.
Then come the son of men and said .
" Follow me and I'll make you fishers of men. "
All of this, about MIND CONTROL.
But, more than two thousand years have passed and people who professs the christian religion are unable to understand it and still carry a guilty conscience that sticks in their hearts like a leech.
You are slaves of somebody's conceptions.
There are no sins.
The only good thing are the tenth commandments which are not exclusive of the christian religion. Many other religions have those precepts.
I, for my part will tell you this:
" Follow me and I'll make you fishers of WOMEN. "
Posted by: Jose Cabrera | February 23, 2008 3:23 PM
http://video.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wv
Enough said!
Posted by: Bill C. Jones | February 23, 2008 3:29 PM
Does anyone really believe in Hillary Clinton? I for one do not. Earning jobs on your husbands heels is not hard work and compassion. Maybe she has those qualities though. However, when I think of quality experience to run the show I don't look to my bosses son who got hired with no relevance to the job for my answers. Think about her in your own workplace. How she would have got her job, how she maintained it and how she got the power and money to run for this highest of jobs. If she was in your office, you would hate her guts, not envy her compassion. Barak on the other hand isn't proven to be alot better. One thing I will say is, black folks hold their own to a very high standard. The biggest problem we have in this country is poverty and violence in the cities and who feels it more than black folks? If Barak can get the nomination, he will bound to preach it like he feels it. He will be historical in every sense. If I were Barak at this position right now, if I was lying or pandering to the people with my words, I would be truly scared right now for what the future holds. Why? There has never been a black leader at that helm. There has never been a black leader besides the assassinated Martin Luther King Jr. who held any real sway in national politics. If Barak finds himself to that seat, he will be bound to do right. Right doesn't necessarily mean high approval ratings with many people but it means things might get done for once. The trouble is, this particular black man is running with Mexican illegals in mind. He is putting them on the minority slate and not seperating black from Hispanics. This troubles me. Well, it is both Barak and Hillary doing so. The black blight fight in this land is far different and the solutions are far different from that of the Hispanic problems. Both of these candidates will be too scared and too weak to seperate the issues. They will group them into lumps like every other president we've had. So now welfare reform will mean more handouts instead of less because we will soon assist illegals and not just impoverished Americans. This I fear from Barak. Hillary, on the other hand, she will simply pander to the people. She already is. Talking about taking 55 billion from the evil oil tycoons and pharmaceutical giants to give back to the average American? You list me there comrade. My flag is red white and blue not just red. However, if either candidate was smart enough to find the in between in this, we would have a true candidate and not two jokes with entertaining shows. This, in my eyes, is all either needs to say to win the seat, "When I become president, I will put an import tax on every company who employs over 2/3 of their workforce outside of this country. Any company who produces all their goods outside but calls themselves an American company will pay a higher import quota just as Chines companies do. No longer will 200 employees at a corporate office in LA make you an American company. Also, all companies must have a workforce of a minimum 50% American employees by 2010. If you have earned your keep in business by working our tax system and employing new age slaves, your time of flourishing will not be over." This is one simple law that no one has the gall to enact. It is the one most important legislation that this land could enact to counter the dying economy and growing deficit. Why should Nike be allowed to be called an American company just because they have four hundred guys working in LA. Every shoe they produce is from Indonesia or some other southeast Asian country. Not to put down the sweat shop workers they employ but, their shoes aren't exactly American made. Then, people will say, well Nike's will end up costing three hundred a pair. No they won't. If you look at Nike's balance sheet, they are one of the most profitable companies in the world. If they up their prices to continue with their unrealistic, monstrous profit margin, people just won't buy their shoes and they will suffer. A law can't fix everything...Americans have to have some heart to stand up and say that I am not paying for your greed anymore. Now, that may be the only far fetched thing I have written here today, that Americans actually have some integrity and some control over their own decisions. In conclusion, Hillary will ruin us and she cannot win. Barak will not save us and he probably cannot win. McCain will be your next president and all I can say as a democratic-republican, the only one left, he's better than Bush. In true conclusion however, all three of these candidates desserve that position like I desserve a million dollars a day for the lint I pull from my belly button. All three are lying and running as the anti-politicians while they play the political game. Funny isn't it? All three are coming up with catch phrases and a new bill to propose to pander to whatever state they are campaigning in at the time. That's the same old to me. And finally, we will give it four more years of this nonsense and see where we find ourselves. Many are saying that Hillary will redeem us with nationalized everything just like Europe. Well, Europe also takes two years to pass every bill that comes up for legislation. Europe also exercises triage in their open heart surgeries. Europe also gives nationhood to any state(Kosovo, Montenegro, Czech Republic, etc.)that has an organized resistance. If we follow Europe's path, every American will have sued his local hospital for improper treatment by 2010. Texas and Arizona will be autonomous states and every bill that gets proposed will take ten times longer to come to fruition than it already does. So, let's go commy in America everybody, vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Brian | February 23, 2008 3:29 PM
Barack will be President with or without Goverment insiders. We should all email Strickland and remind him that he may be at odds with Ohio. Doesn't he need to be relected???EMAIL HIM NOW!
Posted by: R.Mary | February 23, 2008 3:33 PM
Apparently Hillary has seen the light at the end of the tunnel:
"...I am absolutely honored to be here with Sen. Obama" "...Absolutely honored"
I think she wanted to ask, "Will you please select me for your running mate?"
Posted by: Hedcutter | February 23, 2008 3:44 PM
Please, to all of you that think that the clinton era was the best, #1-Bill Clinton did nothing specific to help the economy except one thing, the best thing he could have done, he left Alan Greenspan alone, let him set the fiscal policies of the country, he is the one that was responlible for the good economy, not the Clinton Administration...
#2-go to the congessional records online and compare the records of Obama and Hillary, then make the call, cause if you do you will see that for the 16 years of experinence that she is touting, she has accomplised almost nothing.
#3-The President that most people consider one of the greatest ever (on both sides of the aisle) was JFK, the one thing that he did was to inspire Americans to once again get involved in politics and help our nation, and the world "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country," he was'nt one of the great foreign policy presidents of our time, but he did something no one had been able to for a long long time, he inspired Americans to become involved!! no one has since (think about it)
#4- Hillary Clinton is a good individual, however she has to much baggage for what this country needs now, every Citizen of this country needs to roll up there sleeves and get to work on changing the political landscape of this nation, there is no more time to waste, we are at CROSSROAD here people, it's time to change what we are, who we are, and how the world views us, and more importantly how we percieve ourselves!!!, NO CLINTON, OR BUSH, nor a MCAIN, will be able to do that. And last but not least, It was a handshake and WORDS and a willingness to TALK to our supposed enemies that got the door to China opened, and it was a williness to TALK AND MEET with our greatest enemy at the time the Soviet Union that got the Berlin Wall torn down... We need to open up a dialogue with the world people, good and bad, cause you cannot solve anything anywhere unless you are willing to TALK, and I mean talk, no preconditions, no promises, just sit down and TALK, and find out what we have in common and work from there, COMMUNICATION!!!! it works....... Therefore Obama is the best candidate on EITHER side of the aisle bar none!
Posted by: ken | February 23, 2008 4:01 PM
I just hope that George Bush doesn't declare a "state of emergency" to justify martial law and indefinite suspension of elections.
Posted by: T.D. | February 23, 2008 4:02 PM
I am a Canadian who watches with great interest, and sometimes trepidation, the political happenings south of the border. There is no doubt that what America does affects the entire world, but the repercussions resound loudly and immediately north of the border.
When you elected George W Bush to his first term as president I thought that half the American population must have lost it’s sense of reason. When you elected him for a second term I was convinced that insanity had reached epidemic proportions in the U.S. And now I see that the other half of the population seems to have been infected with the same loss of reason.
Barack Obama seems to be a nice enough gentleman. However, I have never witnessed a candidate for high office who talked so much and said so little. Change, change, change and more change without ever saying what, why, when, or how. If he gets the Democratic nomination it will have been under false pretences and the consequence will be another republican President. I beg you, please support the other Democratic candidate so that we’re not all disappointed after the hot air and hype is replaced with the cold reality of a further weakened U.S.A. both at home and abroad.
P.S. In my many years of experience I have found that people who talk too much are invariably hiding a negative truth which they do not want exposed.
Posted by: John Hunt | February 23, 2008 4:05 PM
B.W., you threw it out there in your statement, "That's just more of the politics of old, which is exactly what Obama seems to be fighting against", so do tell, what else is your candidate fighting for? Nobody on his bandwagon, (and that's exactly what this two-headed monster is, a bandwagon), can seem to be specific, Obama included. What *are* his plans when this brillant, MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER, NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL IS elected by a bunch of mindless gnomes who've seen the latest bandwagon pull into their town, and much like the Yankees bandwagon, jumped on because you NEED someone to tell you how to think or who you like. Doing it all by yourself is too much work. Let's here it B.W., just one thing Obama is currently stating as a reason to vote for him, (without using Hillary's ideas of course,and not using his tried and true, I'm going to bring a change.)
Posted by: Anonymous | February 23, 2008 4:12 PM
Hillary Clinton's experience has never been for the greater good, but Hillary Clinton does have experience. Hillary Clinton's experience is in cooperating with the RIGHT to use CAPITALISM against the 70% greater majority population, which is not acceptable experience for leading the 70% MAJORITY Common Population.
Anything can be used improperly and CAPITALISM is being used improperly in the United States by the Bush administration, and before the Bush administration, the Clinton administration. The propagandistic FRAME "for or against" CAPITALISM is continually used by the plutocratic RIGHT Wing's corporate and elite capitalists to lead the 70% Common Population against their best interest.
It is expected that the RIGHT will lead the LEFT against their best interest as the RIGHT has been leading the LEFT against their best interest since the beginning of time. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton represent the LEFT and cooperate with the RIGHT to lead the LEFT against the LEFT'S best interest. Hillary Clinton is the upper level of the LEFT's REPUBLICAN corporate DLC's NEW CLASS, the Professional Class, cooperating with the RIGHT'S corporate and elite capitalist where the corporate and elite capitalists are allowed to receive OBSCENE BENEFIT for their class and culture at the expense of the 70% MAJORITY Common Populations class and culture in the United States and around the world. Hillary Clinton is a Dream Initiative leader of the REPUBLICANS corporate DLC's 20% NEW CLASS that is not only leaving, but has left behind the 70% Common Population; as the 70% Common Population no longer have ANY representation in the United States government.
The DLC NEW CLASS has taken away a complete populations right to vote effectively, which disenfranchises that complete population. 70% of the United States population, the Common Population, have been disenfranchised by corporate power's DLC NEW CLASS, where the Democratic Party only represents the corporate power's NEW CLASS, the Professional Class.
Being politically disenfranchised by corporate power in the United States is more than not being allowed to vote or your vote not being counted; being disenfranchised means that you are not represented in the government of the United States in decisions relative to the economy, your well being, tyranny, opression or anything else. The government and media can tell you whatever they want to, but when your vote doesn't mean anything, you are not represented in the government. Currently in the United States only two classes and cultures are being represented: the corporate DLC's 20% NEW Professional Class and Culture and the 10% Elite Capitalist Class and Culture; the 70% MAJORITY Common Population's representation has been totally rejected by the NEW RIGHT Wing of the Democratic Party, as the corporate NEW DLC CLASS, of which Hillary Clinton is a leader and Bill Clinton was a leader, determines how to use the 70% MAJORITY Common Population against themselves, since the DLC NEW CLASS has determined that the 70% MAJORITY Common Population are like cows grazing in a field, who believe themselves to be free and equal and will never know the difference anyway; and even if they do, will not be able to do anything about it; but they were wrong.
WE THE PEOPLE, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION do know the difference; and we have hope in Obama. Right now, Obama is our only hope. Governor Dean was our hope, but he was readily knocked down by the RIGHT'S media machine. There is a lot to hopefully seek in Obama: Hopefully Obama will somehow sustain the RIGHT'S media onslaught to get the Democratic Party's nomination; hopefully Obama will win the General Election to become President; and hopefully Obama will not see the need to continue the DLC ruling the government of the United States and using CAPITALISM in an improper manner against the 70% MAJORITY Common Population.
RIGHT Wing CAPITALISM uncontrolled is tyranny and oppression to the many on the LEFT; but, if the LEFT will lawfully harness CAPITALISM with FAIR and EQUAL "ratios of benefit for profit and pay" to eliminate OBSCENE BENEFIT for the few at the top at the expense of the many, and provide lawfully established "ratios of benefit for profit and pay" for ALL who contribute to capitalistic enterprise; CAPITALISM will be good for all, because all who work do contribute.
An example of "ratios of benefit for profit and pay" can be understood by the analysis of all of the parts and angles of a "2PI Circle", [http://math2.org/math/trig/tables.htm]. A "2PI Circle" can grow or shrink from small to large, but the ratios for computing the size of the parts stays the same; this trigonometric model could be applied to CAPITALISM, so that all parts within CAPITALISM would remain constant as the "P-I-E" becomes larger or smaller, and eliminate OBSCENE BENEFIT for the few at the top, at the expense of the many. With this CAPITALISTIC CONTROL, all citizens who work in a capitalistic enterprise will have an interest in whether or not the capitalistic enterprise does well, because they will receive an established "ratio of benefit for profit and pay" that they can depend upon, whereas currently OBSCENE BENEFITS are reaped by a few at the top at the expense of everyone else, perpetrated by the Clinton administrations and the Bush administrations.
Hopefully under an Obama administration a legislated fair and equal "Ratio of Benefit for Profit and Pay" will insure that all involved, including the workers, in the enterprise receive lawfully established fair and equal benefits.
We have a lot of hope in Obama -- there is NO HOPE in another Clinton administration.
Posted by: Martha Miller | February 23, 2008 5:21 PM
Hillary Clinton's experience has never been for the greater good, but Hillary Clinton does have experience. Hillary Clinton's experience is in cooperating with the RIGHT to use CAPITALISM against the 70% greater majority population, which is not acceptable experience for leading the 70% MAJORITY Common Population.
Anything can be used improperly and CAPITALISM is being used improperly in the United States by the Bush administration, and before the Bush administration, the Clinton administration. The propagandistic FRAME "for or against" CAPITALISM is continually used by the plutocratic RIGHT Wing's corporate and elite capitalists to lead the 70% Common Population against their best interest.
It is expected that the RIGHT will lead the LEFT against their best interest as the RIGHT has been leading the LEFT against their best interest since the beginning of time. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton represent the LEFT and cooperate with the RIGHT to lead the LEFT against the LEFT'S best interest. Hillary Clinton is the upper level of the LEFT's REPUBLICAN corporate DLC's NEW CLASS, the Professional Class, cooperating with the RIGHT'S corporate and elite capitalist where the corporate and elite capitalists are allowed to receive OBSCENE BENEFIT for their class and culture at the expense of the 70% MAJORITY Common Populations class and culture in the United States and around the world. Hillary Clinton is a Dream Initiative leader of the REPUBLICANS corporate DLC's 20% NEW CLASS that is not only leaving, but has left behind the 70% Common Population; as the 70% Common Population no longer have ANY representation in the United States government.
The DLC NEW CLASS has taken away a complete populations right to vote effectively, which disenfranchises that complete population. 70% of the United States population, the Common Population, have been disenfranchised by corporate power's DLC NEW CLASS, where the Democratic Party only represents the corporate power's NEW CLASS, the Professional Class.
Being politically disenfranchised by corporate power in the United States is more than not being allowed to vote or your vote not being counted; being disenfranchised means that you are not represented in the government of the United States in decisions relative to the economy, your well being, tyranny, opression or anything else. The government and media can tell you whatever they want to, but when your vote doesn't mean anything, you are not represented in the government. Currently in the United States only two classes and cultures are being represented: the corporate DLC's 20% NEW Professional Class and Culture and the 10% Elite Capitalist Class and Culture; the 70% MAJORITY Common Population's representation has been totally rejected by the NEW RIGHT Wing of the Democratic Party, as the corporate NEW DLC CLASS, of which Hillary Clinton is a leader and Bill Clinton was a leader, determines how to use the 70% MAJORITY Common Population against themselves, since the DLC NEW CLASS has determined that the 70% MAJORITY Common Population are like cows grazing in a field, who believe themselves to be free and equal and will never know the difference anyway; and even if they do, will not be able to do anything about it; but they were wrong.
WE THE PEOPLE, the 70% MAJORITY COMMON POPULATION do know the difference; and we have hope in Obama. Right now, Obama is our only hope. Governor Dean was our hope, but he was readily knocked down by the RIGHT'S media machine. There is a lot to hopefully seek in Obama: Hopefully Obama will somehow sustain the RIGHT'S media onslaught to get the Democratic Party's nomination; hopefully Obama will win the General Election to become President; and hopefully Obama will not see the need to continue the DLC ruling the government of the United States and using CAPITALISM in an improper manner against the 70% MAJORITY Common Population.
RIGHT Wing CAPITALISM uncontrolled is tyranny and oppression to the many on the LEFT; but, if the LEFT will lawfully harness CAPITALISM with FAIR and EQUAL "ratios of benefit for profit and pay" to eliminate OBSCENE BENEFIT for the few at the top at the expense of the many, and provide lawfully established "ratios of benefit for profit and pay" for ALL who contribute to capitalistic enterprise; CAPITALISM will be good for all, because all who work do contribute.
An example of "ratios of benefit for profit and pay" can be understood by the analysis of all of the parts and angles of a "2PI Circle", [http://math2.org/math/trig/tables.htm]. A "2PI Circle" can grow or shrink from small to large, but the ratios for computing the size of the parts stays the same; this trigonometric model could be applied to CAPITALISM, so that all parts within CAPITALISM would remain constant as the "P-I-E" becomes larger or smaller, and eliminate OBSCENE BENEFIT for the few at the top, at the expense of the many. With this CAPITALISTIC CONTROL, all citizens who work in a capitalistic enterprise will have an interest in whether or not the capitalistic enterprise does well, because they will receive an established "ratio of benefit for profit and pay" that they can depend upon, whereas currently OBSCENE BENEFITS are reaped by a few at the top at the expense of everyone else, perpetrated by the Clinton administrations and the Bush administrations.
Hopefully under an Obama administration a legislated fair and equal "Ratio of Benefit for Profit and Pay" will insure that all involved, including the workers, in the enterprise receive lawfully established fair and equal benefits.
We have a lot of hope in Obama -- there is NO HOPE in another Clinton administration.
Posted by: Martha Miller | February 23, 2008 5:46 PM
Barak Obama doesn't even represent his constituents because he refuses to cast his vote on important legislation. That's what you call a Tax burden not a representative. If he cannot be an effective senator how can he be an effective President. Michelle Obama recently said she was Ashamed of America until just recently of course. I guess she needs to be paid to be proud. Here is a quote she should look up "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country." Words from a Truly brilliant man who died for this nation. Barak should think about what those words truly mean before he throws them around because they sound good. He also promotes giving people who would rather do drugs instead of working wellfare. I'll be a republican next year if he is the dem candidate.
Posted by: Jeremy Harbison | February 23, 2008 6:34 PM
Hillary will be more of the same.
I found it odd that as soon as Clinton won NY's senate seat, suddenly Bill's best friend is Bush's dad.
A lot of Clinton's campaign money has come from Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and the whole crowd that brought us sub prime lending, mortgage foreclosures, a devalued dollar and an economy rapidly sliding into a depression.
Our banks are borrowing billions from "the fed" which is a private conglomeration of ban owned by the Rothschilds, JP Morgan and Rockefeller who are racking up billions in interest from the banks that are borrowing.
And as for her 35 years of experience, being the wife of a president and the wife of a governor doesn't count. By Hillary's reasoning Nancy Reagan and Barbara Bush have almost as much experience as she has and are nearly as qualified to become president. All they need to do is run for the Senate, serve one term, start campaigning, and they'd have all the experience Hillary has, traveling to other countries on Air Force 1, going to diplomatic dinners, etc, etc, etc.
Go Nancy and Barbara!!
She understands us and will work for US? She grew up wealthy, she went to private, expensive, ivy league schools, she lived in a governor's mansion where she raised her kid in the lap of privilege, then went to the WH where she did the same.
When did she ever have to work and run a household? Ever? Does she even know how? Somehow I don't think she knows how to "bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan", and it's obvious she has let Bill forget he's a man or he wouldn't be looking elsewhere for that.
Do you hear her talking about paying off student loans? No. But Obama and his wife did. They may have money now after his book deals and with her U of C job, but they certainly didn't grow up wealthy or get college handed to them on a silver platter. They had to work for that.
Forget the rhetoric and look at the facts. Just what experience has she had in the last 35 years? Her husband was elected governor of Arkansas when she was 25. She had probably just graduated from law school. He served a term, lost one, served another and ran for president.
She probably only worked for 4 years in her whole life, and this is probably the first time they ever owned a home!! And she represents us?
I don't think so.
Obama on the other hand,graduated from Columbia University, where he majored in political science and specialized in international relations. He then attended Harvard Law School, graduated magna cum laude, and served as the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. After law school, he worked as a community organizer and a civil rights lawyer in Chicago. He also taught at the University of Chicago Law School as a senior lecturer specializing in constitutional law. Obama represented the South Side of Chicago in the Illinois State Senate from 1996–2004 as a Democrat. In 2004, he was elected to the U.S. Senate, winning with 70% of the vote against the conservative black Republican, Alan Keyes. Obama became the only African-American serving in the U.S. Senate (and the fifth in U.S. history).
Personally I think someone who knows that we have a Constitution and also knows what it says would be terribly refreshing after Bush and his crowd.
How did the candidates vote on wiretapping Americans amendment giving the telecoms retroactive immunity for the info they spit out? I'll tell you.
A U.S. Senate vote that took place.....reveals how much three of our leading presidential candidates are committed to electronic privacy and the rule of law.
Barack Obama passes the test. John McCain failed. Hillary Clinton gets an incomplete.
The vote was on an amendment to deny AT&T and other telecommunications companies legal immunity if they are proven in court to have violated federal privacy law by opening their networks to the National Security Agency.
Obama voted for the amendment. That's a vote for electronic privacy and for the rule of law. It means that AT&T and any other companies that may have violated the law would be held accountable for any illegal actions they committed. Conversely, if AT&T, et al, violated no laws, its lawyers have nothing to worry about.
McCain opposed the amendment
Hillary Clinton gets an incomplete, (cosponsored the amendment but wasn't around to vote on it.)
Like I said, refreshing to have someone in office who understands the Constitution.
Posted by: Julie | February 23, 2008 7:00 PM
A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain!
Posted by: John | February 23, 2008 10:04 PM
And a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush!
Posted by: N.D. | February 23, 2008 11:48 PM
Hillary's accusations that Obama is not specific are so BOGUS. Obama is just as specific as Hillary is in his speeches. It's just that he also has vision and inspiration. She just keeps spouting "facts" (which may not be very factual at all). And she's boring. And uninspired.
Posted by: Caroline | February 24, 2008 1:03 AM
Hillary's accusations that Obama is not specific are so BOGUS. Obama is just as specific as Hillary is in his speeches. It's just that he also has vision and inspiration. She just keeps spouting "facts" (which may not be very factual at all). And she's boring. And uninspired.
Posted by: Caroline | February 24, 2008 1:04 AM
Oh, Please wake up and see the danger that this Obama is up to. That smug smile as he decives everyone. Barach Hussien..(the middle name which every one works so hard to hide .. why so secretive) has no experince. You can find a dime-a-dozen people with equivalent experience.
If he wins Republicans will have a landslide.
Posted by: DS | February 24, 2008 2:38 AM
Julie
OBAMA VOTED "NO VOTE" ON THE BILL THAT PASSED. AND HE WAS IN THE SENATE. GIVE ME A BREAK. OBAMA IS A FRAUD.
Posted by: Jaqueline | February 24, 2008 4:50 AM
Posted by: Kris in PA | February 23, 2008 12:35 PM
1.Senator Hillary Clinton has voted for the war in Iraq and that war has no end in sight and I guarantee you that whoever wins this nomination battle or the elections in November, whether Dem or Rep, will have a difficult task in finding a viable solution. And while that is going on, more money will have to be drained to finance the war while the economy is struggling.
2. At the time of the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003, Sadam Hussein had no Weapons of Mass destruction. The WDM theory was used by G. Bush to persuade the American people to buy in the idea of going to the war and in any ways, the whole situation was miscalculated as we can now see.
The US have invaded Iraq for the wrong reasons, so don't tell me Sadam Hussein is linked to 9/11. One must not forget that G. Bush Jr. wanted to finish a job started by G. Bush Sr.
3. Obama may not have as much experience as Senator Clinton, but he is intelligent enough to vote against the Iraqi invasion. This is reflected in the way he has organised his campaign. This shows that he is a competent strategist, a thinker and good manager. This is very important when it comes to making crucial decisions. Whatever happens to this nomination battle, one must give credit to Obama for his boldness and courage and above all, the ability to thrive under pressure. What haven't the Clintons trown at him? Yet he is still standing and who knows, he may even come out a winner.
4. The war in Iraq is costing the US billions of dollars that could be better spent elsewhere to help a struggling American economy. No one knows for sure how much more needs to be spent on the war and how long more it is going to last. No one knows how many more lives will be lost before the war comes to an end! This is a terrible mess and in my humble view, Senator Clinton and all the people who voted for the invasion of Iraq, must be held responsible.
Forgive me, Kris, the way I see it, the manner in which Senator Clinton is running her campaign should give you an idea of how she is going to run the country, should she become the next American president. Just like the war in Iraq, she has miscalculated the situation. She was not prepared at all for the fight. Now that things are not going her way, she and her team, have decided to play dirty. Negative campaigning and backroom politics, should not be allowed and I hope that the American people will see that Senator Obama is the best candidate to take the country forward.
Vote wisely, vote Obama!
Posted by: Kwame Mensan | February 24, 2008 5:30 AM
BHS's and HRC's novelties, and then, the MSM's need and desire to perpetuate the flashy freak shows cut equal time away from Edwards. The MSM are more dangerous than the superdelegates. BHS and HRC are equally into corporate America--no real difference btwn the two. And McCain--the perpetual warmonger--will make our kids dead soldiers, and will continue to ignore the needs of American citizens on American soil. Yep, keep filling those body bags, and building that new IRAQI--and possibly Iranian--infrastructure.
Nadar made some very good points this morning. AND, the election continues to eclipse the ongoing constitutional irregularities (I know, boring) in the Cheney/Bush admin. MSM--no problem trading equal time for all candidates, and The Constitution for transitory ratings.
Posted by: Vivian | February 24, 2008 11:43 AM
Correction--BHO's novelties. I must have been thinking of BHO's BS.
Posted by: Vivian | February 24, 2008 12:07 PM
All this bashing back and forth is going to get resolved--with an Obama/Clinton ticket.
Posted by: Stan | February 24, 2008 2:16 PM
Jeremy - You already are a Republican. Michelle Obama did not say she was ashamed. She said until only recently she was truly proud. Big Difference. Keep reading the tea leaves and popping the oxycontin. You're half-way to Limbaugh Land.
DS - Nice Hussein re-tread. As for experience in leadership, GWBush was a two term Governor. Excellent Resume there, oh and his Daddy was President. Good Enough for you?
No? well then what exactly makes a former first-lady qualified?
Posted by: Anonymous | February 24, 2008 3:42 PM
I am down here on the Kentucky side of Cincinnati. While the media is favoring Hillary in the city, there is quite a rumble out on the streets that Obama is the way to go. So that is my unofficial take on this....
Posted by: tony | February 24, 2008 5:45 PM
SYLVIA BROWNE, I HEARD, HAS PREDICTED THAT HILLARY CLINTON WILL PREVAIL. TIME WILL TELL......
Posted by: lance griswold | February 24, 2008 8:10 PM
Everyone Lately mentions all these bills that Obama sponsored. They list of hundreds lately. Here is the list of Obama’s sponsored bills that have actually become law. Here are the changes that he was actually able to achieve, by bringing people together across the aisles.
S.RES.291 : A resolution to congratulate the Chicago White Sox on winning the 2005 World Series Championship.
S.RES.516 : A resolution recognizing the historical significance of Juneteenth Independence Day and expressing the sense of the Senate that history should be regarded as a means for understanding the past and solving the challenges of the future.
S.RES.529 : A resolution designating July 13, 2006, as "National Summer Learning Day".
S.2125 : A bill to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. (Consponsored with Hillary Clinton)
S.3757 : A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 950 Missouri Avenue in East St. Louis, Illinois, as the "Katherine Dunham Post Office Building".
That is change you can believe in.
Posted by: blake | February 26, 2008 9:01 PM
This story makes me more torn on which direction to take!
Posted by: Sonya | March 26, 2008 3:26 PM