by Mark Silva
Former President Bill Clinton, whose campaigning for the former first lady has rallied some voters and offended others, has a Valentine's Day present for the senator from New York.
The former president plans to campaign Thursday for Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential camapign in Wisconsin, which will offer the first opportunity, on Feb. 19, to offset what could be a disappointing day for the Clinton campaign, today, in the "Potomac primaries.''
The ex-president remains popular, though some of his campaign rhetoric on his wife's campaign against Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois has raised some eyebrows this year.
Bill Clinton plans stops in Milwaukee, Madison and La Crosse for his wife on the 14th.

Comments
Too little too late. They are both snakes.
Posted by: Gloria | February 12, 2008 5:58 PM
I'll be there in Madison for his campaign stop... and I'll be one of the many adding to the chorus of "Boos" he will receive!!! I used to have respect for him but after his "fairy-tale" and "Jesse Jackson in S.Carolina" comments I am embarrassed that I voted for him... twice. I won't be voting for another Clinton again, that I can promise you.
Posted by: Mad in Madtown | February 12, 2008 6:22 PM
I will not vote for Hillary
Do not want: Bush - Clinton - Bush - "Clinton" ?
She is a bridge to the last century -- 1990's politics at it's worst.
Posted by: Wisconsin John | February 12, 2008 6:28 PM
WE LOVE BILL! WE LOVE HILLARY! We enthusiastically support Hillary Clinton for President. She's clearly the most qualified candidate in the race of any party. Bill is a wonderful asset to Hillary. They are the best political team in history. Bonus, Hillary is a real Chicago girl, born and raised here!
Posted by: John and Elizabeth | February 12, 2008 6:28 PM
>>The ex-president remains popular, though some of his campaign rhetoric on his wife's campaign against Sen. Bararck Obama of Illinois has raised some eyebrows this year.
The only eyebrows raised were the muck rakers' and the media's. the obamma campaign is trying their best to smear him and distort his every statement because they FEAR him.
Posted by: Benjammin | February 12, 2008 6:30 PM
Am I the only one that remembers the Clintons SOLD PARDONS?? I also voted for them twice and defended them through Monicagate, but having pardons for sale is such a disgrace I cannot forget or forgive it.
Posted by: Kim | February 12, 2008 6:46 PM
Yes Hillary is the link to the past, to Bill and everything that entails. good or bad. Barack is new, fresh and represents change. However, when I saw the CNN program w/David Gergen about what the next president will have to do and all the major problems he/she will have to face, I realized this next president will have to overcome major serious issues. On that thought, Hillary has the experience w/baggage. Barack has the "new" w/no experience. McCain has the experience but will go in the wrong direction for the US (which is the same direction as it is now). So who to vote for? definitely NOT McCain.
Posted by: renee | February 12, 2008 6:57 PM
Be careful what you wish for . We got Bush and wow that was a disaster.
Posted by: hwr@shaw.ca | February 12, 2008 7:07 PM
I look forward to the day we can call Mrs. Clinton "Madam President."
Posted by: Philip | February 12, 2008 7:07 PM
My guess is Bill Clinton will be spending Valentines Day with some dumb young campaign worker. Hillary will be no where near him (her present to him). It'll be interesting someday to hear the stories of "Bill's Campaign Trail Adventures". It'll make a good movie.
Posted by: Reality | February 12, 2008 7:19 PM
Someone wrote that "Bill Clinton remains popular." Since when? He never got even 50 percent of the vote in two national elections. He only won because of Ross Perot. Some popularity. Maybe the writer believes the "polls." The same polls that had Kerry defeating Bush?
Posted by: Enrico | February 12, 2008 7:25 PM
"Bonus, Hillary is a real Chicago girl, born and raised here!"
However, she never served in any public office 'here'.
Posted by: Tamin | February 12, 2008 7:46 PM
Sen. Clinton is the brightest, strongest and most tenacious of all candidates. She will get my vote and any others I can muster for her. I would very much like to see Sen. Obama as her Veep.
Posted by: Sharon | February 12, 2008 7:54 PM
Bye, bye, Billary
Posted by: tOd | February 12, 2008 8:12 PM
Obama is a fad, besides his pretty speeches, he got nothing to offer. He will fade away, as soon as media lose interest in him. To average people, all you want is a president who can change your life,of course in a good way (not Bush's way). Average American people's living standard has gone down in last 7 years. Hillary/Bill is the only choice for a healthy and bette future for this country, wake up people. Why young people likes Obama, because they don't know,and they don't care, all they want to fun. Vote Obama, chant Obama sounds cool and fun.
Posted by: amia tanny | February 12, 2008 8:18 PM
Enrico,
Yeah, but he got more votes than anybody else in both elections unlike Bush, who got 550k fewer votes than Al Gore.
Posted by: C.Morris | February 12, 2008 8:41 PM
"Be careful what you wish for . We got Bush and wow that was a disaster."
I didn't wish for Bush. But I remember his first election as being about an affable fellow who got along with people. No one was calling him an inspiring intellectual powerhouse who would change much of anything, except an end to the Clinton-fatigue. (I voted for Bill twice, defended him through Monicagate, and I was weary of him.) The Lt. gov of Texas has more power, as Molly Ivins often pointed out, but Bush'd be an affable figurehead. Then 9/11 happened, and a new man was created.
Did I like that man? No. I voted against him twice. But voters re-elected him, and it wasn't on inspiration, or change, or likeability, or anything other than 9/11 and what followed.
Posted by: dal | February 12, 2008 8:48 PM
Hilary is an Illinois girl with no sense of loyalty-- the same GIRL who looked the other way when her pathetic husband continues to chase any skirt in his path and the same girl who readily tossed away her
Cubs loyalty for a
NY Giants bb cap. She represents the worst of what I as a woman would ever want for the first female president. I want a person I can respect-- regardless of their sex--- for me that is only Obama or I'd vote R before ever casting a vote for Hillary and her lot.
Posted by: Sue | February 12, 2008 10:08 PM
The Clintons think that this country is run by just Latinos. Because that is all they are after, latino votes. Somebody forgot to tell them that they are not in Mexico. Maybe it will be a good idea to pack them along with some illegal immgrants to Mexico, so that Hillary can feel quite at home and bask in the latino votes she can garner there. We don't need the skirt chasing Bubba anywhere near the white house. The people of the District of Columbia today signalled with their votes that Hillary is not welcome in D.C.
Posted by: Mel LaMond | February 12, 2008 11:37 PM
The perfect gift on Valentine's Day: separation.
That reminds us all of why the Clintons were such a disappointment.
Posted by: Bud McFarlin | February 12, 2008 11:40 PM
Sharon,
If you need to “muster” any votes you can, your girl is in trouble.
Posted by: Susan | February 13, 2008 12:04 AM
Oh, yes, Bill. I went to my first (Washington State) caucus to vote against him. Tsongas carried Washington (unfortunately, Bill C. still won - thanks to Perot).
I am a Democrat and 61 years old. If Hillary manages to steal this nomination, not only will I NOT vote for her, I will vote for a Republican for the first time in my life.
And I am not alone......
Her vote for the war is enough to disqualify her, in my view.
Posted by: Mary | February 13, 2008 12:13 AM
Sue,
You are extremely judgemental. Hillary Clinton did what she thought was best for her family. You do recall that she has a child with Bill, right? Noone has the right to judge what a husband and wife should do in their marriage including you.
It always amazes me how women are the first to judge another woman. Shame on you!
Posted by: Jan | February 13, 2008 1:00 AM
February 13, 2008
Dear Friends and Readers at Chicago Tribune:
WAY TO GO OBAMA!!!!!
YES, WE CAN!!!
YES, WE CAN!!!
YES, WE CAN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY
I have been voting since 1976 and I can't ever remember an election year as exciting as this one.
I love Barack Obama and pray for his success everyday as we are heading into the most important presidential election in the 231-year history of this great country.
Senator Clinton’s husband, President Bill Clinton, often likes to assure people and the press, that, “The American People are pretty smart and they usually get it right when it comes to politics and elections.” I am strongly in support of Barack Obama, but I have to believe that the successes we are seeing with his popularity in the polls is due to President Clinton’s statement: The American People are in fact, getting it right. They actually want Barack Obama to lead this country as its 44th president.
Besides, if you just immerse yourself in the two best selling books that
Obama wrote himself (i.e. no ghostwriter), you will not only understand how talented the man is and how he thinks, you may start to realize that he is definitely the most talented and best qualified candidate running, in either party. I spent Christmas of 2005 reading Dreams from My Father, and Christmas of 2006 reading the Audacity of Hope, so I know. Those books and Barack Obama's speeches helped clinch it for me. I want this great man to lead America from 2009 - 2016.
Every fiber of my being confirms that this country would be blessed to have Barack Obama elected as our 44th President in 2008. Barack Obama will help this country remember once again why we are a great country, and help lead us to the place where will once again respect and care about each other. And he will help regain the respect and trust of other nations on the world stage. I hope we all live to see Barack Obama sworn in as President on January 20, 2009.
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May God Bless and Protect Barack Obama, his Family, and his Team!
Regards,
William Favre Slater, III
http://billslater.com/who_is_barack_obama.htm
Chicago, IL
United States of America
P.S. That dude who logs in as "MJ" to always give the Obama Supporters a hard time must be VERY unhappy about now. Here's hoping that Obama continues his successes and that Obama's supporters continue to be vocal and demonstrative in their $upport!
Posted by: William F Slater III | February 13, 2008 2:19 AM
Forget the Valentine hype. Hasn't the Clinton Political Machine run out of gas yet? Bill Clinton has lost much of his charm, and Hillary reinvents herself at every campaign stop. It's time we demand honesty and a high degree of respect as part of the qualifications for the (singular) job of POTUS. Barack Obama has all the qualities needed to put America back together. He is highly intelligent, has integrity, and the ability to bring people together. This president of our country should have a reputation that the rest of the world can respect. No more jokes about WJC and his Oval Office playground.
Posted by: CaliGram | February 13, 2008 2:51 AM
God-willing Wisconsin voters will have the good sense to listen to Bill Clinton who truly knows how to deliver a message of hope...one that is based in reality.
I am an African-American and I support Hillary Clinton because she is hands down the best candidate for president. It absolutely disgusts me that America could be suckered into voting for a second rate Frederick Douglass wanna be who has proven little more than his ability to string together a few inspirational sentences and deliver them in a cadence reminiscent of a run-of-the-mill southern Baptist preacher.
Barack Obama does not represent and cannot bring change to America because in order to create change you have to have a plan, something Bobama's speechwriters and vocal coaches have been too busy to come up with.
Barack Obama spells disaster for the Democrats should they decide to choose him as their nominee and continue their ongoing losing streak for the White House.
Go ahead. Give the campaign to John McCain because that's exactly who I'll support if the junior senator from Illinois becomes the democratic nominee. Pfft to all the Obamacans and Obama disciples.
Nobama 'O8
Go Hillary!
Posted by: Machiavelli | February 13, 2008 5:16 AM
When Obama is sworn in as president, he will take office with as much experience in elected office as any president in the last thirty years. Plus, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and George W. had ZERO experience in Washington before they became President.
Also, the way the candidates are handling their campaigns says much about their skills. Obama has found innovative ways to raise enormous amounts of money for specific goals without going into debt. Neither Clinton nor McCain can say the same. This is probably an excellent skill for a President who will need to fund new programs.
Obama also organized an immensely successful grass roots organization, staffing important positions on the first try without having to let anyone go. Again, neither McCain nor Clinton can make that claim. Remember Bush having to part with Brownie, Gonzales and Wolfowitz? That's what comes of hiring your friends instead of people who are best able to do a specific job.
There's no question that Obama is best qualified to be President, I just wish his campaign was better at counteracting spin so that everyone would be aware of it and stop with the no experience nonsense.
Posted by: Rebecca | February 13, 2008 5:26 AM
Obama is not a fad -- he is real. He's a candidate unlike any that we've had in a long time: he means what he says and he wants to change the corrupt special-interest spending that constantly happens in DC.
We need a leader with ethics and character -- Obama is it! :)
Posted by: Elsie | February 13, 2008 5:41 AM
She will be the Dems front runner for sure , no doubts about that , though , no chance for both to stand against McCain , McCain is the right piece of the puzzle, America needs a true Commander in Chief and a decision maker,
a tough republican with broader and liberal mind ...a true patriot ....and who else ?? Mac is Back .
Posted by: Fahmi Saied | February 13, 2008 6:22 AM
I love Hilary and I am an
african american. I will not
vote for Obama for any thing
in the world. Hilary is my girl.
Posted by: april burroughs | February 13, 2008 7:18 AM
Easy solution to this mess - VOTE REPUBLICAN! :)
Keep the Adults in Washington! Not these type whom promises anything to solve all woes... what they got? Magic Wands??
Posted by: Turner | February 13, 2008 7:34 AM
I think Obama is better than Clinton in all aspects.
America needs serious changes in social life and in life generally!
-armine
Posted by: Armine Abrahamyan | February 13, 2008 8:16 AM
please,please to add a yuoth,woman,man from the area you are addresing to say some nice words about you,programs and then speake after them.it works mirracles and this will offset the lies of hope to nowhare. good luck hillary and bill. i know God is with you.
Posted by: john ndege | February 13, 2008 8:17 AM
Why should anyone with any sense of decency vote for a snake like Hillary? Ever since Super Tuesday she has not even bothered to acknowledge Obama, or even her own supporters. Not only did she not even bother to acknowledge Obama's victory, she did not even have the courtesy to thank the thousands of people who took time out of their lives to go out and vote for her. Haitian dictator Papa Doc Duvalier in one of his famous speeches said "The expression of gratitude is an act of cowardice". One can certainly understand this a little better now. She's in effect telling those people "To Hell with you... If you really loved me you would have given me enough votes to win". By ignoring all the people who voted for her, does she really expect those people to vote for her again, in case she was to win the nomination? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Posted by: Julio | February 13, 2008 8:21 AM
I personally liked Bill but I don't think our country is quite ready for a woman president. We're going through enough crap as it is...
Posted by: ashley | February 13, 2008 8:28 AM
Machiavelli -
WELL SAID! I AGREE 100%. I will vote republican first before I vote for someone who is a great motivational speaker. There will be a mess in the White House on day one. Barack should be ashamed of himself. Less than 3 years ago he was using the Clintons to become a US Senator and now he has the Audacity to be run for president? Forget it. Bill Clinton was a Govenor for 14 Years! George Bush Jr was a Govenor for 5 years. George Bush Sr. Was a Vice president for 8 Years. Ronald Regan was a Govenor Of California. So don't say our previous President didnt have experience. Barack has none
Posted by: Marc | February 13, 2008 9:08 AM
I think that Senator Clinton is an exceptionally bright senator and would make a good president, certainly better than the current live-in at the White House. However, I think the fact that just a few lines above this someone calling himself Machiavelli is supporting her, speaks volumes about the Clintons. All due respect to President and Senator Clinton, but they play dirty politics, and brand of Machiavellian politics that rallies the republicans against them, and deters potential democratic voters from going to the polls. Anyone who claims that President Clinton's remarks were true or even acceptable is plainly wrong. He has become quite injurious to Sen. Clinton’s campaign.
Senator Obama on the other hand presents a new voice, a new attitude, and a new brand of politics for the 2008 election. He is young, equally, if not more qualified than Senator Clinton, equally if not more charismatic than President Clinton, and his words are not hollow; they are full of legitimate and strong policy. In my opinion, Senator Obama is the best qualified candidate and the most likely to take is in a new direction, one of success and prosperity. We need a direction that, in the end we will not be afraid for our children and their posterity, but instead we will be proud of what we have accomplished and honored to have been a strong supporter of our leader. He truly represents the New Frontier, reborn. Let us write this new chapter with him.
I implore everyone to cast your vote, in the primaries and in the general election in November, for the junior senator from the great state of Illinois, Senator Barack Obama.
Posted by: Nick Wisconsin/Illinois | February 13, 2008 9:11 AM
I love Bill & Hillary!!!
Nothing new about Obama's rhetoric... I am not on the Bam-Bam wagon.
Posted by: Clinton Fan | February 13, 2008 9:31 AM
Hilery claims 35 years of managing change. Just what has she been doing in important ways that resulted in her being a "CEO" of change. She was in the govenor's mansion and the White House on her husbands coattails. Remember, just after Bill's first presidential election when she tried to steer a national program from the White House and was told to stand down by the congress.
What major legislation has she steered through the congress?
When has she ever shown real leadership?
Posted by: don | February 13, 2008 9:32 AM
It's already over as far as I'm concerned, Obama agrees, he's already going after Mccain. Hillary said she was perfectly happy being the "Senator" from NY. Who else is she going to fire or blame for her failed campaign, I think Bill should be next!
Posted by: Kris | February 13, 2008 9:38 AM
I think people may be missing an important point..
Bill Clinton DOES NOT EQUAL Hillary Clinton. Are we assuming she will be successful because they share a last name????
Posted by: heather | February 13, 2008 9:52 AM
Yep, You'll fell for it:
"We are the ones we've been waiting for," Barack Obama said in yet another memorable election-night speech on Super-Confusing Tuesday. "We are the change that we seek." Waiting to hear what Obama has to say — win, lose or tie — has become the most anticipated event of any given primary night. The man's use of pronouns (never I), of inspirational language and of poetic meter — "WE are the CHANGE that we SEEK" — is unprecedented in recent memory. Yes, Ronald Reagan could give great set-piece speeches on grand occasions, and so could John F. Kennedy, but Obama's ability to toss one off, different each week, is simply breathtaking. His New Hampshire concession speech, with the refrain "Yes, We Can," was turned into a brilliant music video featuring an array of young, hip, talented and beautiful celebrities. The video, stark in black-and-white, raised an existential question for Democrats: How can you not be moved by this? How can you vote against the future?
Obama must be planning to us the bully pulpit to toss one of every week to keep "We are the change we are seeking"
Sounds like bull to me.
Personally I am not looking for inspiration or motivation, I am looking for a President who can make things happen.
Posted by: Independent | February 13, 2008 10:02 AM
YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!
Hillary will be throwing kisses at the White House because she will not return there. Anyway why would a woman want to go back to the House where her husband admittedly "Did" another female? Imagine if she did get elected Bubba would have a room where he could reminense on the love he shared with Monica.
Hillary I'm sorry but I think you got taken by your husband's infidelities. He was a disgrace to the White House and that's why I'm not going to vote for you!
Yes We Can! Yes We Can!
Fired Up and Ready To Go!
Posted by: Beth | February 13, 2008 10:05 AM
Why are those bad things, why does the fact that he is charismatic and can deliver an amazing speech mean that he won't be a good leader, "a president that can make things happen?" And why would you not want to be motivated by a President? He is the leader of the United States, and the path finder for the future. He sets the agenda and reaches for greatness. The best presidents in history have been great motivators. They instigate greatness out of us in the interest of all. Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, F. Roosevelt, Kennedy, Clinton. There is no sound logic that suggests if you're a great orator, you are incapable. Actually, it's quite the opposite. It is sad that you don't want to be motivated. Motivation, a charge to duty, and expression of emotion, of caring, these are the things that make men great. These are the things that motivated the union in the Civil War, and brought about the Civil Rights Movement. They landed us on the moon, and declared that we were not going to take it any more, that we were an independent people, no longer under the vindictive control of George III.
I want to be motivated by my president.
Posted by: Nick | February 13, 2008 10:17 AM
Whoever said Hillary is a true Chicago girl is sorely mistaken. She never lived in the actual city of Chicago, and hasn't been back for decades. I think the Illinois vote spoke for itself; we do not want Hillary and her husband. We need change and Obama will make it happen.
Posted by: E.N. | February 13, 2008 10:25 AM
A message to BILL:
Tell these American people EXACTLY how it is and all is well. I realize that you were called a racist for the remarks that you made (or didn't make rather) in SC. SO WHAT! YOU, the former president know what we are up against in this day and time. Recession? I recall when YOU were in the White House that our economy was AWESOME! Tell the american people NOT what they want to hear, but what you have to say. GO BILL and GO HILLARY
Posted by: Cindie | February 13, 2008 10:27 AM
Why are those bad things, why does the fact that he is charismatic and can deliver an amazing speech mean that he won't be a good leader, "a president that can’t make things happen?" And why would you not want to be motivated by a President? He is the leader of the United States, and the path finder for the future. He sets the agenda and reaches for greatness. The best presidents in history have been great motivators. They instigate greatness out of us in the interest of all. Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, F. Roosevelt, Kennedy, Clinton. There is no sound logic that suggests if you're a great orator, you are incapable. Actually, it's quite the opposite. It is sad that you don't want to be motivated. Motivation, a charge to duty, and expression of emotion, of caring, these are the things that make men great. These are the things that motivated the union in the Civil War, and brought about the Civil Rights Movement. They landed us on the moon, and declared that we were not going to take it any more, that we were an independent people, no longer under the vindictive control of George III.
I want to be motivated by my president.
Posted by: Nick WI/IL | February 13, 2008 10:38 AM
Hilary clinton should be the next president of the United States of America; she would be the greatest president in US history.
Vote for Hilary Clinton
Posted by: sarah | February 13, 2008 11:12 AM
I am deeply saddened by all the vitriol and hatred displayed by so many of the Obama supporters toward Clinton. It has definitely taken on the tone and content of the Bush/Rove smear campaigns against John Kerry and every living democrat. Come on, people, tone it down and keep it on the issues. Senator Clinton is not Bill Clinton and neither one of them is a racist. I just don't understand the vilification of Senator Clinton; she is more than capable of being an excellent president. The world would be fortunate, indeed if she could accomplish even half of the successes of Bill Clinton while he was in office: no wars and record prosperity for everyone.
Posted by: Jeff | February 13, 2008 11:59 AM
Ms. Clinton gets a raw deal from the media. She doesn't have a fair chance when her successes are not given their due. Mr. Obama promises many things, but he can't deliver these things if congress is not on board. We're electing a president, not a king. When does the public get to know this man beyond what he chooses to divulge in his biograpies? What's the media waiting for to do their job?
Posted by: Vivi | February 13, 2008 12:02 PM
I am amazed at what is going on in the primaries. It is like American Idol and Dancing with the Stars, voting based on emotion, not skills and experience. The nation needs open-heart surgery; we need the candidate with years of experience and credentials to lead the Country, not the nice intern.
Hilary gives the Democrats the best change to win the White House, and hold it for eight year
Posted by: ann b | February 13, 2008 12:07 PM
To former Sex-Predator-in-Chief Bill Clinton, Mrs. (Mistress) Clinton is not Hillary; she is Monica. Hillary is Ms. Clinton.
Posted by: Al Strap | February 13, 2008 12:18 PM
Why hasn't Hillary over the past 8-years of her senate seat introduced her "new" overhaul plan for health care? If she truly is the best candidate, with her so called 35-years of experience.... "Where's the beef"? She has boasted of her abilities to fix our health care system, bring home the troops, and so on. So where was her leadership these past eight years, especially with a democratic house majority. Idle rhetoric has been her politics from day one and will continue as her mantra as our new president. I can't vote for Hillary for many reasons but her failure to lead during her senate tenure shoots her and bubba out of the running.
Posted by: Nipper | February 13, 2008 12:19 PM
Bill gets exiled to Wisconsin!
Bill will be as welcome as a yellow snow ball.
The Clinton Duoacracy exists to enrich Bil and Hillary. The pardons, the Wal Mart Board payola-the list is endless.
Yet through it all there are still those misguided idealists who thinhk that the Clintons "feel your pain". The Clintons will be remembered as America's greatest con artists couple.
It is time for a better America for all Americans-not just the elite who use the Clintons to enrich and empower their own countries (China, Dubai) and corporations.
Posted by: remus | February 13, 2008 12:21 PM
When does being a first lady and a carpet bag senator make you experienced. If that is the case my vote is for Laura Bush.
Posted by: Rich | February 13, 2008 12:49 PM
Our country is in a mess and we need someone who fully understands the complexity of our issues to start repairs on Day 1. Obama will need more than rhetoric to lead globally. We need Hillary!!!
Posted by: Carrie for Hillary | February 13, 2008 12:58 PM
"Whoever said Hillary is a true Chicago girl is sorely mistaken. She never lived in the actual city of Chicago, and hasn't been back for decades. I think the Illinois vote spoke for itself; we do not want Hillary and her husband. We need change and Obama will make it happen."
Please. We DO want Hillary, there are just too many deluded folks who think "our time has come" includes them. I am SO tired of Obama saying NOTHING and no one calling him on it.
Go Hillary!
Posted by: Hillary Fan | February 13, 2008 12:59 PM
Hilary is the Devil's Advocate read the book The Biggest Secret by David Icke...You will understand what's going on!!!!I rather choose John maccian than Hilary....I have always voted for Democrat but if the devil wins the primary i will make sure the devil lose the national election by campaigning for john maccain. Clintion and bush Dysnaty will be over soon.
LOOK at her face when she talks u will see what i'm talking about.
May God Help u see the LIght.
Posted by: BINI | February 13, 2008 1:05 PM
A thought from a Canadian...I am really surprised that President Clinton is still being used by Hillary's campaign. I thought he had burned too many bridges with his condescending comments about Obama. Bill Clinton seems too have the most amazing political 'nine lifes.' I can't think of another politician that has been so personally responsible for wrecking his own image... yet remains so popular. It is absolutely incredible!
Posted by: Jim O'Brien | February 13, 2008 1:13 PM
"Be careful what you wish for . We got Bush and wow that was a disaster."
I (and about half the country) did not wish for this!
Posted by: cranberry | February 13, 2008 1:21 PM
What did Bill get Monica?
Posted by: MinisterP | February 13, 2008 1:23 PM
This one is an interesting flip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/11/9435/13800/190/454427
Obama 08
Posted by: andre walker | February 13, 2008 1:24 PM
"Bonus, Hillary is a real Chicago girl, born and raised here!"
"However, she never served in any public office 'here'."
Or in her "home state" of Arkansas - although they did elect her in her "home state" of NY...
Posted by: Newton, Chicago, IL | February 13, 2008 1:43 PM
Just a quick refresher course, lest we forget, about what has happened to many "friends" of the Clintons.
1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena, AR airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney, investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise," was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena, Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes."
34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley
39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel
40 - Major General William Robertson
41 - Col. William Densberger
42 - Col. Robert Kelly
43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes
44 - Steve Willis
45 - Robert Williams
46 - Conway LeBleu
47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! The public needs to be aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton's!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT?
SURELY YOU JEST!!!
Posted by: c | February 13, 2008 1:44 PM
Bush did not have experience either, he relied on his father for advice to run this country, which was a terrible mistake.
Posted by: Ez | February 13, 2008 1:46 PM
Please remember what happened after the 1960 election when Kennedy, young, handsome, charismatic, articulate, became president. For all practical purposes not much happened in a positive sense. The Bay of Pigs debacle, very little awareness of the civil rights struggle, the assassination of Diem in S. Vietnam, and the Cuban Missal Crisis. The last incident was a direct result of lack of experience in dealing with the Soviets. Khrushchev felt that Kennedy could be "rolled" after meeting with him in Vienna and that Berlin could be taken from the Western powers. Not until Johnson was president was progress made on domestic and foreign policy, although his fixation on fighting a war in Vietnam was to be his undoing.
The United States needs a president on Jan 20, 2009 who knows how and where to wield power. Hillary Clinton has that knowledge; Barack Obama, for all of his skills and good qualities, does not. Let's not repeat the mistakes of 1960 and more recently of 1968. These are two good candidates in Clinton and Obama but Clinton has the experience to make change, not just talk about change.
Posted by: Bally | February 13, 2008 1:51 PM
Theirs is definitely a HillBilly campaign. Good for a few laughs. They even have Chelsea shilling for her old lady. Chelsea--the very same daughter they protected for eight years when they lived at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Posted by: John L. Hoh, Jr. | February 13, 2008 1:53 PM
Please, people--make some sense. Tell me what is right with Obama other than his rhetoric--he knows the word "change" and he knows it well--if only he could tell us specifics as to why, what, how and when. All I am asking is that you really listen to him talk--he never says anything substantial--he's inexperienced and it shows! Stop voting against Hillary and vote for someone that takes a stand. Obama doesn't vote because he doesn't want to be criticized. Hillary voted for the resolution allowing the war because she was using the information she was given at the time. WISE UP!
Posted by: jb | February 13, 2008 3:09 PM
Let me get this straight: a Valentine's present is Bill roaming around Wisconsin, while the wife is roaming around Texas?
Where has romance gone?
Posted by: strut2k | February 13, 2008 3:13 PM
To the editors of this forum --
My comment of earlier this morning was not posted. Why? It was appropos the subject and a point of view. There was nothing flaming about it. Although this a a forum where people are invited to speak out, it appears that you don't want everyone's opinions.
Posted by: MIS -- ABQ | February 13, 2008 3:14 PM
Benjammin
The name is O-B-A-M-A. One (1) M, not two (2).
Posted by: Veejay | February 13, 2008 3:24 PM
Sharon,
If you need to “muster” any votes you can, your girl is in trouble.
Susan, I second THAT emotion!
Posted by: Veejay | February 13, 2008 3:33 PM
We love YOU Obama. Happy Valentine's Day. Hillary and Bill WHO?
Posted by: S. Holt | February 13, 2008 3:37 PM
Is Hillary now going to become the first "Hispanic" president?
Posted by: CJ North | February 13, 2008 3:53 PM
I still love Bill.
And I still love my husband, even though he is a lying cheater as well.
good people often do bad things.
Posted by: Mary | February 13, 2008 3:58 PM
How can there still be Clinton supporters out there? Remember how Bush got elected to his first term as a result of "Clinton fatigue"...the entire nation was sick of the scandal and intrigue (and mysterious deaths) that follow the Clintons. And here we are, a mere 8 years later, and people are again asking for another 4 years of the Clintons running around in the White House??? what are you thinking? Washington has become a cesspool of career politicians who are out of touch with how we Americans are trying to survive nowadays....and you want to put a career Washington politician in the White House? I am an "ABC" voter this time...anyone but Clinton. Really...can Americans not remember our experience with the Clinton '90s? If I hear one more comment on Bill Clinton getting credit for the economy at that time, I'm gonna scream. the late '90s were a period of serious corporate spending on new computer equipment and the implementation of Internet infrastructure (remember when that was a new, exciting thing?). The President - no matter who was in office at the time - had no role in the tech-based economic growth we enjoyed at the time. this issue isn't dig at Bill Clinton, but to credit him with the health of the economy at the time is a "fairy tale".
Posted by: Illinois Pete | February 13, 2008 4:03 PM
"Bonus, Hillary is a real Chicago girl, born and raised here!"
However, she never served in any public office 'here'.
Posted by: Tamin | February 12, 2008 7:46 PM
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Given the state of Chicago and Illinois, that can only be seen as a positive.
Posted by: Roosevelt370 | February 13, 2008 4:04 PM
"Hillary is a real Chicago girl."
Who got out of here as quick as possible and never looked back. Never served public office here and never did anything to help this state in any way.
Posted by: chgosaint | February 13, 2008 4:14 PM
TOP 10 CLINTON CAMPAIGN FOUL UPS
1. HILLARY STAFF MEMBER RESIGNS DUE TO FALSE EMAIL ABOUT OBAMA BEING MUSLIM CIRCULATED
2. HILLARY SENIOR CAMPAIGN ADVISOR RESIGNS DUE TO "SLIP" OF REFERENCE TO OBAMA'S YOUTH DRUG USE
3. HILLARY SAYS JOHNSON SHOULD BE MORE CREDITED WITH CIVIL RIGHTS LAW THAN MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
4. BILL CLINTON CALLS OBAMA CAMPAIGN A "FAIRY TALE"
5. HILLARY MAJOR SUPPORTER BOB JOHNSON APOLOGIZES FOR REFERENCE BARACK DRUG USE
6. HILLARY RUNS OUT OF MONEY MUST LOAN CAMPAIGN 5 MILLION DOLLARS
7. HILLARY CAMPAIGN MANAGER QUITS
8. HILLARY DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER QUITS
9. HILLARY LOSES DELEGATE LEAD, POPULAR VOTE AND STATE WINS COUNT
10. HILLARY RUNS NEGATIVE AD AGAINST OBAMA
DID I LEAVE ANYTHING OUT????
Posted by: Lawrence | February 13, 2008 4:39 PM
Obama continues to get slammed for NOT having a plan. He gets slammed for having the gift of eloquence. He gets slammed for his self confidence-If he does not believe in himself who will? So he is just 46, why should that matter if he chooses to run for President. He gets slammed for NOT defending himself against Hillary's comments...He then gets slammed when he speak up for himself. He gets slammed for using the slogan "Yes We Can" (Unlike Hillary who goes on and on praising herself during her speeches.) I guess this what Hillary supporters considers a plan. The only issues I have heard Hillary address are healthcare and jobs. Obama has expressed these concerns in his speeches as well. Just because Hillary repeats the same thing over and over does not mean she has a plan. Hillary's speeches are predictable, she's going to tell everyone how she's ready on day one. She going to remind everyone that Obama has no experience, she's going to remind everyone that she has 35 years of experience and then, maybe some tears, blah, blah, blah. Obama is a very intelligent human being, intelligent enough to know that it is better NOT to make any promises that one may not be able to keep. Obama is intelligent and wise enough to know that only when he seats himself at the desk in the Oval office in 2009 after the Bush administration has left the building and assess the damage first hand, so he knows what CAN be done, he cannot make ANY promises. Way to go! O '08
Posted by: Veejay | February 13, 2008 4:57 PM
If people think Obama is another JFK then he will have far more babes in his closet than Clinton ever did. Hey everyone get over Bill's affair, at least he didn't kill anyone like the Bushes did.
If your looking for more than ideations on running the country then Hillary is the one we need in the White House.
Posted by: Jasmine | February 13, 2008 6:23 PM
"Personally I am not looking for inspiration or motivation, I am looking for a President who can make things happen."
Posted by: Independent and a l
..... and you will never get that president with an attitue of 'Do it all for me!" ...
We need a president who is a true leader, one that inspires and motivates people to get off their lazy butts and get involved in their country, as a true leader should do - as Barack has so clearly done! Why you people who are tired of the mania can't see that it's actually a good thing, that Obama has actually created an interest, and a belief that people actually can change the horrible politics that this country has come to embrace is beyond me.
You clearly need some motivation and inspiration ... and a bit of education if you think the president will do everything for you. People have let the current president do whatever the heck he's wanted for 7 years, and look at where we are.
Yes We Can!!!
Posted by: T Baker | February 13, 2008 8:56 PM
The quote below says it all as far as I am concerned. I've been a volunteer on Hillary's Colorado campaign. Yes, I know she lost the state big time, but Colorado hardly makes the final decision.
From Bloomberg News:
When asked his opinion of Barack Obama's economic speech today, Kevin Hassett, McCain Economic Adviser, American Enterprise Institute said:
"The fact is that Obama's plan today is the most shameless piece of potential plagiarism that I have ever seen. He basically took Clinton's words and Clinton's policies and called them his own. If I were a professor I'd give him an F and try to get him kicked out of school for something this terrible...If I were on the Clinton team, I'd be prepping memos....Because I remember Mrs. Clinton saying shared prosperity and I remember the bill that she introduced in August for infrastructure. The fact is these are things Obama has taken as his own without crediting the source of the ideas which was Mrs. Clinton."
Posted by: Ellen | February 14, 2008 12:03 PM