by Jill Zuckman
Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, the 1996 Republican nominee for president, has weighed in on the controversy over whether Sen. John McCain is really a conservative. In a letter to Rush Limbaugh, who has said McCain will "destroy" the GOP, Dole compares McCain's Senate record to former Sen. Jesse Helms, the arch-conservative from North Carolina.
Here is the letter:
Rush,
I have not seen you in a long time but I do hear you frequently and I know that you have serious reservations about Senator McCain.
Not that many care but I have not been involved in the Republican Primary contest because Elizabeth, a good conservative, is running for reelection in North Carolina where Romney, McCain and Huckabee each enjoy considerable support.
I was the Republican Leader from January 1985 until I left the Senate voluntarily in June 1996. I worked closely with Senator McCain when he came to the Senate in 1987 until I departed. I cannot recall a single instance when he did not support the Party on critical votes. (At my age, I cannot be entirely certain but here are a few key conservative examples:)
1) Consistent pro-life record
2) Strong advocate for strict constructionist judges (We were misled on the Souter nomination)
3) Supported voluntary school prayer
4) Supported Constitutional Amendment for a Balanced Budget (needed two-thirds and lost by one vote — 66-34)
5) Strong advocate for reducing spending and opposing pork barrel "ear marks" which has, I might add, angered some of his colleagues
6) Consistent on defending Second Amendment rights
7) Opposed "Hillary Care" which would have been devastating
8) Probably the Senate's strongest advocate for strong national defense
9) Of course he has cast many votes since I left. I totally disagreed with the McCain-Feingold legislation. On immigration, Senator McCain was not in the Senate when Congress passed President Reagan's immigration legislation which passed overwhelmingly. It granted amnesty to 2.7 million illegals. It was not much different than the 2007 McCain, Kennedy, Bush effort.
I disagree with his votes against the Bush tax cuts but I believe his pledge to make them permanent and I do not agree that Governor Romney ever suggested a timetable for troop withdrawals in Iraq.
McCain is a friend and I proudly wore his P.O.W. bracelet bearing his name while he was still a guest at the "Hanoi Hilton." I believe our major candidates are mainstream conservatives and that our nominee will address our concerns by keeping taxes low, reducing corporate taxes, protecting and assisting the vulnerable, strengthening our traditional values, and above all, keeping America strong militarily, whatever the cost.
Whoever wins the Republican nomination will need your enthusiastic support. Two terms for the Clintons are enough.
God Bless America,
BOB DOLE
P.S. Rush, I just came across a document from the Senate Library which shows Presidential Support scores. Let me give you ratings for "Mr. Conservative" Senator Helms through 2002 (Helms retired in January 2003) and Senator McCain through 2004.
"Presidential Support"
Senator McCain Senator Helms
Support Oppose Support Oppose
1987 65 24 77 22
1988 70 23 60 26
1989 91 9 71 28
1990 74 25 68 32
1991 86 14 84 11
1992 75 25 62 15
1993 27 70 11 84
1994 42 53 18 76
1995 35 63 20 76
1996 31 66 25 75
1997 68 29 44 51
1998 46 47 25 53
1999 38 62 18 82
2000 38 62 31 69
2001 91 9 96 4
2002 90 10 100 0
2003 91 9
2004 92 8
Source: CQ Press




Comments
Memo to Senator McCain (cc to Senator Dole): Thank you for your service to our country. Now shut up and retire.
Posted by: BlueMax372 | February 4, 2008 5:35 PM
Bob Dole and John McCain are both U.S. hereos who weren't afraid to serve their country like this foul adulterous gasbag Rush Limpbaugh. Dole was nearly killed fighting the Germans in Italy. McCain was a POW for nearly 7 years during that time he was consistently tortured. We should be proud of them. Remember all: Rush Limpbaugh never served his country. He was a chickenhawk draft dodger during the VietNam. He ran away like the coward he is. Limpbaugh hides behind a microphone and talks tough. Dole and McCain are infinitely more American and patriotic than the druggie Limpbaugh will ever be.
Posted by: Doug R. | February 4, 2008 6:03 PM
Warmongering geriatric McCain = Bob Dole 2.0
also McSurge McCain:
"My friends"
"The surge is working"
-Systems check, OK
-Reboot
"My friends"
"The surge is working"
-Systems check, OK
-Reboot
"My friends"
"The surge is working"
-Systems check, OK
-Reboot
"My friends"
"The surge is working"
-Systems check, OK
-Reboot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp5CVwR7Jp0
Posted by: John E | February 4, 2008 6:13 PM
Poor Bob Dole, he still believes reality and facts make any difference to Rush Limbaugh.
It's going to be fun watching the Republican nominee for President get savaged by the right wing pundits until November.
Posted by: Luke | February 4, 2008 6:16 PM
As a conservative who backs Senator McCain, I read the letter from Senator Dole and I think to myself, "OK, increasingly shrill supporters of Governor Romney, rebut that."
But you know what? I'm certain that the 2 + 2 = 5 crowd will soon be posting on this blog, with ad hominem attacks on both Senator Dole and Senator McCain.
These so-called "real Republicans" have violated President Reagan's 11th Commandment so many times, they really should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: Tim1979 | February 4, 2008 6:56 PM
Follow Rush's lead and the Democrats will win the White House with relative ease.
I was a long time listener to Rush's show. I no longer listen to his self promotion show.
Posted by: George Edward | February 4, 2008 7:36 PM
BlueMax372 -- your post made me spit out my diet Coke! LOL! Hilarious and good advice!
I just makes me giddy to picture McCain alongside Barack Obama in a general election debate. The contrast will be unmistakable -- young v. old, the past v. the future, the 21st century v. the 18th century!!
Go Obama 2008!
Posted by: BrwnSknGurl | February 4, 2008 7:42 PM
It is a shame that these Right wind propagandist and hate mongers like Rush and Hannity can dictate the course of events in this country. The success of McCain is a direct repudiation of these professional and serial liars.
Sen McCain is not perfect but they have no right diminish his achievements.
Posted by: SoulSeeker | February 4, 2008 7:56 PM
John McCain = Bob Dole 2.0
"My Friends"
"The Surge is working"
-Systems check, OK
-Reboot
"My Friends"
"The Surge is working"
-Systems check, OK
-Reboot
"My Friends"
"The Surge is working"
-Systems check, OK
-Reboot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp5CVwR7Jp0
Posted by: John E | February 4, 2008 8:01 PM
vote McCain if you want to beat obbama - my friends
Posted by: abcz | February 4, 2008 8:12 PM
Don't let Sean Hannity and Rush make you feel like a bad conservative for backing John McCain. McCain is more conservative than conveniently conservative Romney who up until a short time ago looked like a RINO (republican in name only). McCain will beat Billary or Obama while Romney will annoy enough people to lose.
Posted by: David H. | February 4, 2008 8:52 PM
Tim 1979, IO have been a frequent critic of McCain because on several issues I believed he deserted his party, which in effect broke Reagan's 11th Commandment and critical of him on the issues. Having said that, if McCain is the GOP nominee, I will enthusiastically support him. Conservatives who are upset with McCain largely are upset with him on the issues, though, not personally, but on the issues.
Posted by: John D | February 4, 2008 9:13 PM
if McCain is the GOP nominee, I will enthusiastically support him. Conservatives who are upset with McCain largely are upset with him on the issues, though, not personally, but on the issues.
Posted by: John D | February 4, 2008 09:13 PM
Get in line little Rethuglican sheeple, it's time to do what you do best, lockstep F O L L O W.
BBaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!
Posted by: John E | February 4, 2008 11:03 PM
“McCain is a friend and I proudly wore his P.O.W. bracelet bearing his name while he was still a guest at the ‘Hanoi Hilton.’
Right, and Hillary was named after Edmund Hillary.
The nuts don't fall far from the Democrat tree.
Posted by: Tom the 20 Year Reformed Republican | February 4, 2008 11:13 PM
Hey Demented Deranged Johnny E., if I am a sheeple, then what the heck are you? (Rhetorical question by the way.)
Seriously, you fall in line with your loony left brethren, brainwashed and brain dead to the core.
Posted by: John D | February 5, 2008 12:14 AM
* * * * *
Get in line little Rethuglican sheeple, it's time to do what you do best, lockstep F O L L O W.
BBaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!
Posted by: John E | February 4, 2008 11:03 PM
And that's not what you do, you little robot? The Dems have two politicians running for President: Vanilla A1 and Vanilla A2, both of whom receive their ideological orders from the same source. And you actually think there's substance in both. That’s because all your ideas are also dictated by someone else – as well as your arrogance and self-righteousness.
I would call you sheep, but what have real sheep ever done to me to deserve that comparison?
Posted by: John W. | February 5, 2008 3:31 AM
Bob Dole vouches for McCain??? The kiss of death has arrived for McCain. I agree with an earlier comment, "I just makes me giddy to picture McCain alongside Barack Obama in a general election debate. The contrast will be unmistakable -- young v. old, the past v. the future, the 21st century v. the 18th century!!!"
Go Obama 2008!
Posted by: grand OLD party | February 5, 2008 3:44 AM
This is a recommendation from an old fraud.
Dole always loved playing the responsible conservative, dropping cliches like "it's your money."
But the reality is the man is a government-service lifer. He's never done anything but work at the political trough.
Now he's old and retired, he lives off of a gigantic pension and unbelievable health benefits...paid for with, you guessed it, "your money."
Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | February 5, 2008 9:00 AM
Like John McCain, Bob Dole is an American hero. This, by the way coming from a Democrat. I have long regreted my second vote for Clinton in 1996. I should have voted Dole that year. If it's Clinton v. McCain this year, I won't make that mistake again!
Posted by: Larry | February 5, 2008 9:50 AM
To the several Lefty children posting on this board---please keep up your juvenile giggling, and go ahead and rip on Senator McCain's age all the way to November---by doing that, you show disrespect to Presdent Reagan and thus fire up the GOP base, and you also show disrespect to the already huge and growing 60-plus age demographic---all of whom vote, and all of whom were working, paying taxes and building the Republcan and Democratic Parties while you were still pooping in your diapers.
Posted by: Tim1979 | February 5, 2008 10:24 AM
Bob Dole has more courage in his wounded pinkie finger than Rush or Hannity have in their entire bodies.
Fellow GOP members: Deliver the death blow to the Mormon Pseudo-conservative's campaign tonight! The answer is NO, Mitt, the NRA NEVER endorsed you!
Posted by: Jeff | February 5, 2008 11:23 AM
I don't think Romney can beat Obama, who I am betting will come out on top in the Dem primary. McCain can beat Obama because he appeals to at least some independents, who I believe will decide the election. He also served his country with distinction and honor. This is significant because it generally insulates him from personal attacks. The people who do insult him look like fools, like John E. above.
By the way John E., I don't agree with those guys who call you a sheep. You are more of a parrot.
Posted by: Herbie H. | February 5, 2008 11:26 AM
"McCain can beat Obama because he appeals to at least some independents, who I believe will decide the election. He also served his country with distinction and honor. This is significant because it generally insulates him from personal attacks."
Posted by: Herbie H. | February 5, 2008 11:26 AM
McCain's service record doesn't seem to be insulating him from the far right wing of his own party. Further proof that the knuckle-dragger, lunatic fringe still have the abillity to keep the GOP in the Stone Age. Paleolithic Dole's voucher does nothing to change this perception. I believe the republican party is evolving with, or without the Bob Doles and Mike Huckabees of the world!!!
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | February 5, 2008 11:58 AM
Herbie, actually sheep, parrots, lemings, basically ANY creature on this planet has more humanity, more intelligence, more decency and more character than John E could ever hope for. Likening John E to a garbage dump is a closer fit.
Posted by: John D | February 5, 2008 12:07 PM
I hope they keep tastelessly making fun of McCain's age. We saw how well that worked for the Mormon pseudo-conservative in Florida. Newsflash, idiots, old people vote.
Posted by: Jeff | February 5, 2008 1:10 PM
I would call you sheep, but what have real sheep ever done to me to deserve that comparison?
Posted by: John W. | February 5, 2008 3:31 AM
Johnnnnny W my boy,
I've never made any bones about the fact that I like all of our Democratic candidates and would be happy with any of them in the White House, YOU, on the other hand, run around on here telling everyone about how you're a "real conservative" with "real conservative values" and then when it comes right down to it you cut and run, you put on your blind-fold, walk into the voting booth and pull the (R) lever....it's how you voted for George Bush, remember?
Posted by: John E | February 5, 2008 2:53 PM
McCain "a war hero"? What a black joke.
The man was bombing civilians around Hanoi when he was shot down.
The entire Vietnam War was an insane holocaust, the greatest such event since Hitler's. I’ve always thought the black subterranean walls of the Washington Memorial fitting for this reason. That mass murder was a national shame.
Three million corpses left behind along with a deadly sea of Agent Orange and a million landmines to cripple thousands of poor farmers for years afterward.
And for what? Choosing a government the U.S. disapproved of.
The government of the artificial rump-state, South Vietnam, was in every detail as much a dictatorship as the one in the North. It was deliberately created in conniving with the departing French colonial power.
The U.S. had no business trying to tell the Vietnamese how to settle their affairs.
These facts considered plus the clear fact that the U.S. never bothered with the nicety of declaring war pretty much means that McCain and the other murderers of innocents were exactly what the Vietnamese called them, war criminals.
Actually, despite McCain's whimpering about his treatment, he and the other prisoners got off rather lightly.
Do a thought experiment: just imagine a North Vietnamese pilot during the war somehow getting through to a city in California and dropping bombs or napalm.
What would have happened to him if he were shot down?
He would have been torn limb from limb or lynched by the people who almost launched an atomic attack on Afghanistan because of something done by some Saudis and who used to enjoy family picnics during lynchings of blacks.
Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | February 5, 2008 2:56 PM
Herbie, actually sheep, parrots, lemings, basically ANY creature on this planet has more humanity, more intelligence, more decency and more character than John E could ever hope for. Likening John E to a garbage dump is a closer fit.
Posted by: John D | February 5, 2008 12:07 PM
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, little Herbert!!!
I'm going to name this years Republican Goat, Lil' Johnny D!!!!
"We're Republicans, please tell us what to do and think, oh great GOP overlords"?
Posted by: John E | February 5, 2008 2:59 PM
Posted by: John Chuckman, Toronto, Canada | February 5, 2008 2:56 PM
John C,
If McCain didn't have his POW status and George Bush didn't have the last name "Bush", those two dopes would be working the night shift at the local 7/11 right now, they're both dumber than a bag of rocks.
McCain told John Kerry in 04 that he should stop falling back on his Nam status all the time, if you take that away from McCain all you've got left is a crazy old man.
Posted by: John E | February 5, 2008 3:11 PM
Canadian, if we wanted your opinion we'd move your precious little hockey teams to Florida or one of our deserts and THEN have one of our ambassadors tell your president what to parrot back to the national press. Americans will pick our next president, not spineless little canuckleheads like you.
p.s. McCain was bombing military installations, not civilians, you classless a-hole.
Posted by: Jeff | February 5, 2008 4:35 PM
So Jeff, what do you have against Mormons? You bring it up everytime you mention Romney. Are Mormons unfit to serve as President?
Is the McCain campaign about religious intolerance?
Posted by: Luke | February 5, 2008 4:38 PM
More LIBune censorship, yet their little pets, John E and John Chuckman get away with whatever they want.
So, we'll try this again:
Mr. Chuckman, like most of those on the Left, you have no clue about history and distort it to fit your disturbed view of reality.
The U.S. supported the FREE and Democratic regime of South Vietnam agains the Communist North. We weren't "telling the Vietnamese how settle their affairs," we were helping those in favor of freedom over those who do not.
Land mines? Sorry, but most were laid by North Vietnamese and Cambodians under Pol Pot.
Are you even remotely familiar with all the Vietnamese folks killed by the North once we left? All the Vietnamese refugees and boat people?
Afghanistan? You mean the country that aided and housed Al Qaeda? The country of the Taliban?
And what the F is that comment about lynching of blacks???
Really, LIBune censors, get a clue! You censor those who take a viewpoint you don't approve of, yet you let some Canuck garbage call Republicans "lynchers of blacks"???
What a joke this paper has become!
Posted by: John D | February 5, 2008 5:10 PM
"The U.S. supported the FREE and Democratic regime of South Vietnam"
John D-
You really do need to read a history book sometime. The Republic of South Vietnam was not free and democratic. It was run by a military junta from 1965 (after a military coup in 1963) until 1967.In 1967 the military candidate Nguyen Van Thieu won elections that were held. He remained in power until the collapse in 1975, holding sham elections in 1971. South Vietnam was no democracy.
"Afghanistan? You mean the country that aided and housed Al Qaeda? "
Just like Pakistan does now?
Johnny, there are whole buildings filled with books called libraries. Stop by one sometime and educate yourself.
Posted by: JT | February 5, 2008 5:44 PM
Heh, Dole; One of the first 'great dividers'.
Politcal hack.
Posted by: TheReamer | February 5, 2008 6:09 PM
What a joke this paper has become!
Posted by: John D | February 5, 2008 5:10 PM
Please feel free not to comment anymore if you hate the Tribune so much. Crybaby!!!
Posted by: Logic Prisoner | February 5, 2008 6:50 PM
John D reminds me of a French mime in an invisible box talking to nobody....
Posted by: C.Morris | February 5, 2008 7:37 PM
""The U.S. supported the FREE and Democratic regime of South Vietnam"
John D-"
Ah yes, the lesson Incurious George never learned; You can't install democracy at the point of a gun.
Posted by: C.Morris | February 5, 2008 9:38 PM
I tell you, my friends (wink wink), I will build a fence, my friends (wink wink), cause that's what the American people want, is to build a fence (wink wink), but do not ask me what I will do after the fence is built (wink wink) my friends, cause if I told you (wink wink) you wouldn't vote for me (wink wink). And now I got Senator Dole (wink wink), my friends doing dirty politics also, (wink wink) by releasing his personal email to the media (wink wink)....which makes us both (wink wink) two identical old pharts!
Posted by: Elaine Stonemark | February 6, 2008 12:06 PM