Clinton continues war over words

Clinton and her gang are showing just how stupid they are. Obama's campaign should just stick to what they have been doing correctly and leave these power hungry freaks to wallow in the mud.

Well, can you blame her? The entire speech he stole was called "words matter," after all.

It's not just about Plagiarism. It's more about what the act represents.

Because Obama advertises himself as a a candidate of change you can believe in -- it is very disappointing that his ways are no different from any pretentious politician. Because he advertises himself as a man with good judgment -- it is a shock that he had a lapse of judgment on a very basic guideline about speech writing/giving. Never mind the legality or personal permission by a friend -- What is disgusting is Obama's posturing of authenticity and passing the borrowed words to look like his own.

The issue here is what Obama said and failed to do. Any defense outside of this issue are mere hateful rhetorics that mirror another contradiction -- Obama's inability to inspire rational unity. If his call for unity is anchored on hate for another. America is pathetically hopeless.

Obama is just another politician in a new wrapping. He has no substance that we can believe in. And the words he utters cannot be trusted. His act of snatching words and passing a speech to look like his own, makes him guilty of the same accusations he makes against his opponents -- lacking in credibility and full of hypocrisy.

Obama cannot hold his own in substance and even in words. Perhaps, he is the image of what America is doomed to be - a nation that would not be able to hold its own anymore in the world stage.

After videos of Hillary stealing speech lines from both Obama and John Edwards yesterday on News headlines I believe it will have no effect...

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4308238

May even hurt her more for during the same and calling someone else out.

OBAMA THE CHANGE AGENT -CNN — Striking similarities between Barack Obama's words and those of Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick during his 2006 election campaign have raised eyebrows and attracted traffic on YouTube. The stump speech Barack Obama has been giving aimed at convincing voters that his campaign is not just about lofty rhetoric — is from Patrick, Obama's campaign acknowledged over the weekend.
Obama said he goofed on votes angered fellow Democrats in the Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago's West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed!
Also announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6. The next day, he acknowledged voting "present" on a key telecommunications vote. He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said. Obama was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

But two of Obama's bumbles came on more-sensitive topics, he backed legislation to permit riverboat casinos to operate even when the boats were dockside.

The measure, pushed by the gambling industry and fought by church groups whose support Obama was seeking, passed with two "yeas" to spare -- including Obama's. Moments after its passage he rose to say, explaining that he had mistakenly voted for it.

Obama would later develop a reputation as a critic of the gambling industry, and he voted against a similar measure two years later. But he was clearly confused about how to handle the issue at the time of his first vote, telling a church group that he was "undecided" about whether he backed an expansion of riverboat gambling. And, months earlier, he had voted in favor of a version of the bill.

Obama's vote sparked a confrontation after he joined Republicans to block Democrats trying to override a veto by GOP Gov. George Ryan of a $2-million allotment for the west Chicago child welfare office. being responsible," said Sen. Rickey Hendon, accusing Obama of voting to close the child welfare office.Obama replied "I understand Sen. Hendon's anger, I was not aware that I had voted no on that piece of legislation.

He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive. Abortion opponents see Obama's vote on medical care for aborted fetuses as a refusal to protect the helpless. Some have even accused him of supporting infanticide.

This is a silly and desperate ploy of a loser in the 10th round swingly wildly trying to land a lucky punch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc

What is he thinking or not thinking. Feels empty second time around.

What will come back to haunt Hillary is that the book 'It takes a village' was written by a ghost writer that Hillary never acknoldged.

Hillarys negative style campaigning reeks of desperation.

Stick to the issues Hill!

Does Hillary write all of her speeches? He should have attributed the idea but it's not that big of a deal.

Oh, well, Hilary need to do little bit better to 'swift-boat' Obama; instead of taking cheap-shot!

Hilary also copy-cat others, since her words does not inspire like 'Fired up!'.

Hilary can cry again!

A vote for Hillary in the primaries is a vote for McCain in the general elections;Billary are going nowhere! Check this out: http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/hillary_and_obama_its_about_to_get_real_ugly/

Progressive change is coming to America!

Why should Hillary win?
1- Whatever happened to the medical health care plan you
were paid to develop during your husband's eight years in the office as President?
2- Why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office?
3- Whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House?

WEll, what Barack did was wrong, and shows he is just a shallow little pond of words and phrases, but I thought the Queen B has been saying words don't matter, action does? Now, words do matter, according to her?

"She initially declined to give her thoughts about whether Obama’s use of Patrick’s phrases, something Patrick offered for the Illinois senator to use, would constitute a problem. Her view was it depended upon how the spinmeisters in the media spun it."

She 'gave her thoughts' when she directed her campaign to e-mail the media with a YouTube link and say "Look at this!!" There's no high ground for her to take now that it's failed to cause a big swell of outrage and most people view the attack as pathetic.

There are more important issues to discuss and show directions to where America would go if one of them becomes president. Instead they focus on the trash talk "War of Word" who steal / stole what and from whom. I am disappointed at both particularly Hilary Clinton. That negative trash talk leads to think what important to him / her if one of them becomes president?
Fidel Castro resigned and his brother will be nominated and will be Cuban's president.. America would be like that if Clintons are back to the WH. Let break the dysfuntion dynasty Bush-Clinton-Bush and Clintons. I will vote for Rep. although I don't like John McCain, but do I have other choice?

Let's see: the economy, Iraq, Bin Laden, jobs, soaring deficits, health care, education, and this is what the news focus's on?

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Does this sound familiar: "there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be fixed by what is right about America." Hillary lifted it from Bill Clinton's Inaugural speech. I don't want lectures from hypocrits. Go home Hillary.

This is a joke! Is the Hillary camp serious? Are voters this stupid?

Good god!!! The Clinton(s) camp REALLY are showing their desperation. ATTENTION Hillary-bots, All politicians hire speech writers!!! Not a single speech you have heard in DECADES is the politicians own!!! Hillary included. They just proof-read the muthas and then use it, that is also plagarism!!! We have had a DUI offender in the Oval office for the last eight years, not to mention Wild Willy before that!!! You are going to have to do MUCH better than plagarism to swing votes!!!

DESPARATION SETTING IN AT THE CLINTON CAMP.Are we eventually going to run out of words or phrases we can use because someone has used them in the past.This smells of negativity and the public will see it for what it really is.

This has got to be the biggest tempest in a teacup I've seen for a long time.

After having her staff comb painstakingly through all the speeches Obama has delivered, after all the many words he's written and said over the course of this campaign, all she can come up with is a speech in which he "plagiarised" a total of two words from someone who actually suggested that he use them?

Is this the best she can do? Her campaign is in a lot worse shape than I thought.

The party means nothing to her. The people mean nothing to her. Power means everything to her. She will stop at nothing to achieve her goal. Is this who we want running the country?

I hope the irony of her accusing Obama of using empty, re-hashed rhetoric isn't lost on her (or anyone else).

If you are astudent get caught with Plagiarism, then you are going to fail the course. Same thing is going to apply to OBAMA, OBAMA get caught of Plagiarism, then he fail to be a nomination.

FORGET the Media say, since THE ALL SIDE WITH OBAMA TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.

WAKE UP POEPLE

VOTE FOR HILLARY

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

If Hillary is nominated, i will switch to republications. Eventhough i don't like Mccain, I'll vote for him. Can't stand this Billary drama...always trying to do something or smear someone just to win. She is not for America, she is for herself, her ambition, her histroy in making, it's all about her.

If you are astudent get caught with Plagiarism, then you are going to fail the course. Same thing is going to apply to OBAMA, OBAMA get caught of Plagiarism, then he fail to be a nomination.

FORGET the Media say, since THE ALL SIDE WITH OBAMA TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.

WAKE UP POEPLE

VOTE FOR HILLARY

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

If Hillary is nominated, i will switch to republications. Eventhough i don't like Mccain, I'll vote for him. Can't stand this Billary drama...always trying to do something or smear someone just to win. She is not for America, she is for herself, her ambition, her histroy in making, it's all about her.

I think there is something fake about Obama, which older voters are now getting and the younger ones are denying to see. I now don't believe he is really as a christians as his whole family is not. He is what his name is, Mr. Hussein.

It's important to point out the fact that Obama's entire campaign spectacle has been built upon his speech giving skills. When the words are not even his own it calls into question his "authenticity", which has been a cornerstone of his appeal. It pops the bubble. It was his campaigns choice to place the emphasis on his words and speeches because that's all he's got to sell.It's backfiring now. It's about time the Obamarama is over. Obama is not qualified to be President of the U.S. He's not electable. The words and phrases won't cut it in a general election. He's toast.

VOTE SMART! VOTE HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!

I believe the news media should heavly srutinized and research Obama's past speeches to to whether he has stolen words from other authors and tried to call them his own, I learned in college that you always give the Author credit for his work each time you use his or her quotes in writing or verbal quotes.

It does not matter whether Obama's friend him permission to do so, Obama should have let the public know that his friend gave him permission to use his works in Obama's speeches, Obama plagerized his friend's speech as far as I'm concerned.

Another point I would like to make, Obama qoute "Fired-Up and Ready To Go" is not his orginal words either, many people have used those words in the past, I've even used this qoute when I was a kid singing in talents shows in High school. Obama has also stolen some of Hillary's ideas and mixed up the words a little and called them his own. So if the news media start really digging into Obama speeches and background they will discover that Obama has plagerized himself many times over, We should not just dismiss this, this incident is worthwhile pursuing a further, because I don't want a President leading this country of whom I cannot have any confidence or trust in to do the peoples honestly and ethically.

This is another example of Obama's lack of substance, experience, and qualifications to be President of the USA,because it will always be in the back of my mind, what is Obama doing unethically now to make himself look good at the expense of the American people. The seed has been planted in our minds, but we must investigate Obama's background to see whether there's a pattern of the behavior or any other behavior that could be described as unethical or down right illegal, the American people has a right to be ensured that we have a President in Office we can trust from "Day One" of walking into the Oval Office, if Obama is found out to genuine, American who doubted him like me should apologize, and I will be glad to do so, but if He is found out to be unethical or done something illegal in anyway, he should end his campaign apologize to the American people for misrepresenting himself and pay the cost for his misdeeds either legally or by public shame and embarassment.

If the Democrats don't vet Obama's backgroung politically and personally the Republican attack dog machine will, if Obama becomes the Democratic Nominee for sure, these people will do anything to keep control of the White House, and Possibly regain control of Congress in 2009. So Demoratic Party officals please do your homework and research on both Hillary and Obama to save our party any embrassement whoever is the nominee to come up against John McCain in the general election.

Let See. Obama says he would vote against the War Funding, get to DE and VOTES FOR THE FUNDING. NOT once but 2 times. Votes to give the Nuclear Industry big tax breaks (Cheney Energy Bill). Has NO NO record of CHANGE. Hillary is correct, Obama is just about words, NO ACTION. Hillary will win because he will be shown for what he is, JUST WORDS, NO ACTION.
GO HILLARY

Let the Hillary/Obama bitchfest across America continue...the Republicans are enjoying the show from these two world leaders.

Paulo

Tony Rezko toured Obama's under-market value home with home before he bought it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-rezko-home-feb19,0,6690484.story

This story gets worse for Obama everyday. Rezko goes to trial in April and I'd expect more revelations like this one because Obama is clearly doing everything he can to keep new information about his relationship with Rezko from seeing the light of day.

"(W)e’ve got to figure out how to get guns out of the hands of criminals, terrorists, gang members and people with mental health problems."

Hillary Clinton, SWAMP, 2/15/08

The NIU shootings

Doctors: Prozac, violence rarely linked
Experts doubtful that halting medication led directly to shooting at NIU
By Jeremy Manier | TRIBUNE REPORTER
February 19, 2008
In the wake of Steven Kazmierczak's murderous shooting spree at Northern Illinois University, law-enforcement officials noted he had begun to behave erratically after he recently stopped taking psychiatric medication.

That fact might seem to offer a tidy explanation for his rampage, or at least some insight into his troubled mind. But psychiatrists say suspending a patient's use of antidepressants -- Prozac, in Kazmierczak's case -- is rarely linked to violence toward others.

Bottom line: Hillary Clinton, wrong again.

When are the pundits going to wake up and realize that Hillary isn't as smart as they portray her (perhaps out of fear that she will either tear up or scream at them).

Hillary was wrong about healthcare in '93. She was wrong about Iraq in '03. She was wrong about acting on "actionable intelligence" in Pakistan in '07. And she is wrong again in linking the mentally impaired with terrorists, criminals and gang members in '08.

Hillary doesn't know more than Obama, Biden or anyone else. She simply scoffs at those who threaten to challenge her; and the pundits assume she knows more.

Obama is a fool not to attack Hillary on each of these points and others. If he loses this nomination fight, it will be because he let the Clintons take the fight to him rather than taking the fight to them on each of these critical points.

Obama cannot simply assume that the voters have all of the information or even that they can process and add up all of the pieces. That's his job as a politician. He needs to do that for the voters who are disengaged until the final day. He needs to come out STRONG and not just lay back and act cool and aloof. This isn't an audition for the Rat Pack, Obama.

The American people want a fighter in the White House, and if Barack isn't going to fight for himself now, how can they count on him to fight for them later.

This is from diarist JohnKWilson on Daily Kos:

"This cannot be plagiarism for a very simple reason: Deval Patrick had urged Obama to use the language. As Obama reports, "he had suggested that we use these lines." If this is plagiarism, then every politician who uses a speechwriter (and that’s every politician) is guilty of plagiarism for using another person’s words without credit. When Deval Patrick recommended the "just words" idea to Obama, he was functioning as a speechwriter. Therefore, it cannot be plagiarism, even if Obama had recited an entire speech by Patrick.

However, even if Patrick had not given Obama permission to use his words and suggested that he do, Obama’s words still would not constitute plagiarism. Using quotes that someone else has used is not plagiarism. According to this plagiarism website (from TurnItIn.com), "Facts that are readily available from numerous sources and generally known to the public are considered ‘common knowledge.’" The American Historical Association Statement on Standards of Professional Conduct notes, "As knowledge is disseminated to a wide public, it loses some of its personal reference. What belongs to whom becomes less distinct."

The only mistake Obama made was saying that he should have credited Patrick. This is incorrect. There is absolutely no obligation for politicians to credit speechwriters or people who provide ideas for speeches. To do so would require littering speeches with a long series of footnotes that would make an Oscar thank-you speech seem concise and interesting by comparison. For example, Obama’s infamous "fired up/ready to go" statements (stolen, ironically enough, by Hillary Clinton and, in mocking form, John McCain) were taken from a woman at a small campaign event in Iowa last year, as Obama has mentioned in earlier speeches, but not later ones. Is Obama plagiarizing this woman whenever he says "fired up" and "ready to go"? No, absolutely not. No one expects presidential candidates to pile up citations for every speech they make. Nobody needs to hear the story about that crazy woman every time Obama wants to say "fired up."

Obama goes much further than other politicians in writing his own speeches and writing his own books. By contrast, Hillary Clinton falsely took sole credit ("I actually wrote the book") for her book "It Takes a Village" and failed to even acknowledge her ghostwriter.

Back in 1987, Michael Dukakis fired the staffers who smeared Joe Biden as a plagiarist for making a minor error. Hillary Clinton should fire Howard Wolfson for spreading this false charge, and apologize for inaccurately smearing Barack Obama as a plagiarist."

This issue is great for the rabid cheerleaders of their candidates, but means NOTHING to the average Joe.

The issue here is what Obama said and failed to do. Any defense outside of this issue are mere hateful rhetorics that mirror another contradiction -- Obama's inability to inspire rational unity. If his call for unity is anchored on hate for another. America is pathetically hopeless.

Posted by: Mary Gaskins | February 19, 2008 8:56 AM

Oy, Mary. Normally I would say some anti-depressants are in order, but... Time to get off that very sad, high horse.

The hate you think Americans have for each other was brought out by our current (questionably legitimate) President George Bush. And it will be a relief to have someone like Obama in the WH who at least is able to construct an intelligible sentence, whether or not the material is entirely original.

I'd call this a tempest in a teapot, but I was not the originator of that phrase...

I can't believe they pay people as much as they do to devise campaign strategy. Whoever thought of this one belongs with the person who told Rudy he could ignore all the early state primaries.
This is a losing strategy that looks petty and desperate.

This amounts to nothing but another story to portray Hillary in a bad light. The Media is so supportive of this guy, anything they think will help him is provided to a gullible public.

Hillary really should not concede the whole wordosphere to Obama. I mean, she is very inventive and could probably make up whole new words of her own to use.

How about this commercial:

"Hillary Clinton. She is stupenderocious. Her opponent Barack Obama is nothing but bogoposterous. Vote Hillary. It's a vote for magnifiseriousity."

I'm just saying. New words. Oratosterone, baby.

Senator Obama -- In your speech on Super Tuesday, perhaps by coincidence, you used key phrases from a 1984 speech by Jesse Jackson (“Our time has come. Our time has come” DNC), a poem by June Jordan (“we are the ones we have been waiting for” -- “Poem for South African Women”), and a song by Norman Hutchins (“a change is coming”) – but you did not credit any of them for the key lines in your speech. Isn’t this the kind of speechwriting that doomed Joe Biden’s presidential campaign in the 1980s, and why should your speeches be held to a different standard?

Tony Rezko toured Obama's under-market value home with home before he bought it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-rezko-home-feb19,0,6690484.story

This story gets worse for Obama everyday. Rezko goes to trial in April and I'd expect more revelations like this one because Obama is clearly doing everything he can to keep new information about his relationship with Rezko from seeing the light of day.

Posted by: Jeff | February 19, 2008 11:01 AM

Oh my gosh, Obama asked a real estate developer to tour a home he was looking at buying? The horror, the horror! Lock them both up. This is clearly a death penalty offense! How dare he get advice from a supporter who was accused of no wrong doing at the time! My gosh I'm sure glad I can vote for Saint John Keating K-street McCain who is completely untouched by such vile actions!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aR8NLIoQEDc4&refer=us

Tony Rezko toured Obama's under-market value home with home before he bought it: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obama-rezko-home-feb19,0,6690484.story

This story gets worse for Obama everyday. Rezko goes to trial in April and I'd expect more revelations like this one because Obama is clearly doing everything he can to keep new information about his relationship with Rezko from seeing the light of day.

Posted by: Jeff | February 19, 2008 11:01 AM

Jeff, you are aware that the allagations in the Rezko case in no way implicate or involve Obama, don't you? His name will never even be mentioned in the courtroom.

Now that Hill is losing big time she is trying anything to get people to vote for her She would evening say Barack is using other people rheothic. But she does that same if not more then Barack does. And all you Hillarians go to this site and see for yourself. http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4308238. She is to much of a poloralizing person to become president. Beside the last couple months her and Bill has showed me and the world how much they would like the power. Like this is something thats would soppuse to her Hers(Hillary). Wrong... Go BO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the fact that he defended himself using someone elses words speaks volumes. His candidacy is based on hope and inspiration, but yet how inspired is a person really if they need to borrow words from someone else to defend their own use of words to win votes? People who say well Clinton has borrowed words as well do not have a very sound argument because Clinton's entire platform is not based on the used of words, hope, and inspiration. Her platform is based on action and solutions. She did not have to borrow words from someone else to defend her platform for her candidacy. Once again, I see on these boards the Hillary haters are out and all the more reason I'll never vote for Obama. And today, his wife had a bit of a slip of the tongue as well. Finally the press are zoning in on her for once, maybe they'll leave Bill the hell alone for a while. Accuse her of racism for a while. See how that helps Obama's candidacy. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Well, can you blame her? The entire speech he stole was called "words matter," after all.

Posted by: Jeff | February 19, 2008 8:53 AM

Here's Republican McCain gopher, Jeff, cheerleading for Hillary again.

Hey Dems, if you want to know who the Republicans DON'T want to run against this fall (Obama) just read Jeffy's posts on here.

Here's your plagerism!

Here's what John Edwards said at the New Hampshire debate--the night before Clinton got teary-eyed and passionate:

"But that's just an example of why this battle is personal for me. You know, we need a president who believes deeply -- in here -- believes deeply in this battle".

"And it is personal for me. When I see these lobbyists roaming around Washington, D.C., taking all the politicians to cocktail parties, I mean, the picture I get in my head is my father and my grandmother going in that mill every day so that I could have the chances I've had".

And here's Hillary's direct lifting of this effective "personal for me" line THE VERY NEXT DAY! Watch for the blatant plagiarism of Edwards's "personal for me" at :025 or so. I think this proves the slightly inauthentic quality to this moment as well.

Listen to Hillary's "words".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVlwH7-05Fk

Hillary and McCain are a big part of the problem with the Washington cronyism that has killed our political process, not the solution!

OBAMA 08!

Pinocchio Hussein Obama is nothing but an empty suit trying to pass himself off as a legitimate candidate. He is nothing more than another male democrat from the south side of Chicago, trying to get over. He has a problem with telling the truth because it wouldn't square up with the resume he's trying to construct. If he really wanted to tell the truth he should start by letting the American people know about his radical muslim brother Roy, the same one who suggested he should move to institute Sharia law when he gets to congress. He's not truthful when he quotes Malcolm X either "you've been had, you've been taken, you've been bamboozled". He also strikes a pose like brother Malcolm, with the head tilted back in a pensive mood, one things for sure, he appears to be a stickler for details. Rezko = big trouble for Pinocchio, Mr. Rezko didn't strike me as the kind of guy who would use cocaine and meth.. he appears to be a very seedy individual. It's all down hill from here for Pinocchio I'm afraid, he does have rhythm when he dances though, that's a plus i suppose.

The media has been very soft on Obama so far, but it's time for them to start challenging him on the issues and his rhetoric,like they're doing Hillary, some people seem to want to dismiss this issue, and other issues concerning Obama's campaign, but I believe both candidates must be well and fairly veted and purified before the general election starts, because I don't want the Republicans to be able to win this election by default any more like they did back in 2000 and 2004.

Obama is all rhetoric with no indepth substance. Just getting American's excited about change is not going to make it happen, but someone with the right experience, qualificans, and real solutions, along with hard work will make our Inspiration and Dreams of Change, Hope, Unity become a reality, because talk is cheap, and everything else walks.

Hillary Present's solutions to our problems, not just eloquently talking and stirring up emotions and excitement in people along, because at the end of the day emotions and excitement is not going to bring positive Change to America, but successfully implementing the promised solutions Hillary described on the campaign stump will accomplish this goal Objective, and mission. Having the right experience is the key of successfully bringing about, which Hillary currently brings to the table, and can start doing on Day One of entering the Oval Office if Elected President. Everyone should put Emotion, Inspiration, and Excitement aside generated by the candidates on the campaign stump and vote experience instead, and what's truly in the long-term best interest of this country.

In my opinion, I believe Hillary would be the best Presidential Candidate, who would be able to successfully tackle and fix the problems Bush will leave behind in 2009.

Obama should admit the mistake and move on. It' not his opponent's fault that he chose to deliver that speech verbatim. Our professors wouldn't listen to any excuses if we submitted identical works. We would have to suffer the consequences. There's a difference between a word here or there but saying things verbatim raises questions as it should. Maybe Obama should listen to those people he's hired to write speeches and not Patrick.

Actually, in various ways, this was a good thing for the Obama campaign. First, because many people have listened to both he and Deval Patrick who wouldn't have listened had Billary Inc. not made a stink about it. Patrick is now a household word, and his "words" speech was actually better than Barack's. You can see him running for President in the future saying "I was the inspiration." Second, it doesn't hurt Obama any to have some of the "walks on water" shine taken off. It isn't Obama who has framed his campaign as being "above it all" and sanctimonious, the Clintons framed him that way. A very old play in the playbook, make a paper tiger and then destroy it. "He's all about words, but his words aren't his own." Uh....who said he was all about words... Some of these responses just prove that various people have bought into the Clinton narrative, they go on and on about his soaring rhetoric so they can bring it down later. Honestly, I don't think his speeches are all that inspiring, I'm voting for him anyway. Partly I'm voting for him because the Clintons are lousy people, and he's a decent person. No he's not Jesus, but the Clintons are on a par with Nixon, and that's just something too horrible to imagine in the White House again (even though I can imagine it...yuk). So, get off the high horse of righteous indignation over his so-called plaigarism. He's not Moses, but the Clintons are common trash. And I'll take not-Moses over trash anyday. Ministers routinely go to websites to find sermon material for Sunday morning, they don't quote the website to the faithful. Duh. This is speech making 101 and if this rattles your cage your cage isn't made of much in the first place. -JL

Annie @11:22 has it exactly right. The only person with a valid gripe over the issue is the actual author. If Patrick is OK w/Obama's use of his language, then there is simply no wrong to be righted.

Has Patrick actually weighed in on this? If he hasn't, then his silence tends to suggest he's either not mad or has worked out something with Obama.

This is a whole bunch of nothing.

I used to like Hillary. Gosh why is she acting like a typical second-rate political hack, the type we're all dying to get rid of?

Annie @11:22 has it exactly right. The only person with a valid gripe over the issue is the actual author. If Patrick is OK w/Obama's use of his language, then there is simply no wrong to be righted.

Has Patrick actually weighed in on this? If he hasn't, then his silence tends to suggest he's either not mad or has worked out something with Obama.

This is a whole bunch of nothing.

Hooray!

Deval Patrick '08

Why dont we just get the real deal instead of the puppet that Obama is?

Its Deval's speeches that we like not Obama's.

Obama's suck - have you seen him debate? He sucks.

Deval Patrick '08 - vote for the real deal.

BARACK SUCKS!

I can't believe this is still even being discussed, what a joke, what a sign of pure desperation.

Hillary is desperate, she's just like old man McCain, they're both scared to death of OBAMA!!

Barack the vote in Wisconsin tonight people!, that's how we'll pay back the lying desperate McCain and Hillary camps!!

OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If this is all Hillary can come up with to attack Obama, she does not deserve to be president.

"People in glass houses . . ."

I think folks should go back and look up speeches Ronald Reagan did. You'll find a lot of Reagan in Obama.

Hillary and the Warmonger McCain supporters are so transparent in their fear of Obama that it's obvious to everyone.

I used to be torn between Hillary and Barack but after listening to Hillary whine and complain BECAUSE SHE'S losing and then to hear that dumb old man, McCain chime in because he knows he doesn't stand a chance against Obama, I have made up my mind.

I'm voting for Barck Obama in Texas!

Hillary and the Warmonger McCain supporters are so transparent in their fear of Obama that it's obvious to everyone.

I used to be torn between Hillary and Barack but after listening to Hillary whine and complain BECAUSE SHE'S losing and then to hear that dumb old man, McCain chime in because he knows he doesn't stand a chance against Obama, I have made up my mind.

I'm voting for Barck Obama in Texas!

Pinocchio Hussein Obama is nothing but an empty suit trying to pass himself off as a legitimate candidate. He is nothing more than another male democrat from the south side of Chicago, trying to get over. He has a problem with telling the truth because it wouldn't square up with the resume he's trying to construct. If he really wanted to tell the truth he should start by letting the American people know about his radical muslim brother Roy, the same one who suggested he should move to institute Sharia law when he gets to congress. He's not truthful when he quotes Malcolm X either "you've been had, you've been taken, you've been bamboozled". He also strikes a pose like brother Malcolm, with the head tilted back in a pensive mood, one things for sure, he appears to be a stickler for details. Rezko = big trouble for Pinocchio, Mr. Rezko didn't strike me as the kind of guy who would use cocaine and meth.. he appears to be a very seedy individual. It's all down hill from here for Pinocchio I'm afraid, he does have rhythm when he dances though, that's a plus i suppose.

Posted by: Don B. | February 19, 2008 01:33 PM

It's nice to see that racist, bigot "Don B" has raised his hand and told us how stupid he is...again.

Keep up the good work, Donny boy, you're helping the Obama team more than you know.

Good thing she got rid of Solis-Doyle. I see now what her campaign has been missing. It's good to see that she's again "found her voice". Ridiculous. Way to hit hard on the issues Dems....McCain in 08

"All talk, no substance."
"What will Obama do? No one knows!"
"He's a great speaker, but can't back it up with substance!"

You are buying into Hillary's talking points hook, line, and sinker. It's her "perfect" defense to the fact that he's a much better speaker than she is.

He has his accomplishments, policies, and plans up for anyone to read on his website.

Someone claimed they stopped supporting him once he heard someone ask an Obama supporter what Obama would do to help the country, and the person couldn't tell them. I guarantee you that same person wouldn't be able to answer that question about Hillary Clinton.

Obama deals with corrupt Tony Rezco in Chicago.

Obama plagarizes speeches.

Obama smokes crack and gets a blow job from the gay Larry Sinclair in 1999.

Interesting news topics lately.

Here's my plagiarism for the day:

You can't reason with scum
and that's exactly what the people pushing this are.

I mean, honestly: "Oh no! Barack Obama uses speechwriters and borrows slogans from his political allies."

Has there ever been a politician who hasn't done this on a day-to-day basis? Clinton certainly does, but according to her Rovian campaign, that doesn't count because (and this is literally what they claim) different standards apply to her opponents.

The usual trolls on here will insist that this significant because Obama is supposed to be a god. This is really what they say. They've constructed such an elaborate strawman that they've convinced themselves that thwacking at it with their troll-spears is anything more than an exercise in their stupidity.

It's Rovian. It's intended to be. And like Bush Republicans, after the media is done carrying Clinton's water by pushing this patently ridiculous smear, they will go right back to whining and crying about how "the media is so biased against Clinton."

Hillary 'borrowed' the title of her book "It Takes a Village" from the book of the same title written in 1994 by Jane Cowen Fletcher. AND, Clinton hired a ghostwriter to write "her" book. You can read about the ghostwriter's experience here:

http://www.awpwriter.org/magazine/writers/btodd01.htm

Keep up the good work, Donny boy, you're helping the Obama team more than you know.

Posted by: John E | February 19, 2008 2:52 PM

Dear Johnny Everdumb: don't get your panties in a knot about it, I only speak the truth, sometimes it's hard to swallow,which is what your experiencing now. First of all his past transgressions, and the huckster Rezko will bring Pinocchio down long before Hillarys group gets to him. Mr. McCain will then trounce the viper in Nov. I know your smarter than you post Johnny Everdumb, Pinocchio Hussein Obama has a lot of explaining to do, i can't wait till they get around to the racist church he belongs to, you know the one that gave a humanitarian award to Farahkan last year. Wow! exciting times huh John ?

Tony Rezko and his 17-year fundraising relationship with Obama "in no way" implicates Obama. Gotcha. Or the fact that he bought the lot next to Obama's house for more than market value while Obama bought his manse for less than market value. Yes, yes, yes, sheeple there's nothing to see here at all.

Tony Rezko and his 17-year fundraising relationship with Obama "in no way" implicates Obama. Gotcha. Or the fact that he bought the lot next to Obama's house for more than market value while Obama bought his manse for less than market value. Yes, yes, yes, sheeple there's nothing to see here at all.

Posted by: Jeff | February 19, 2008 5:32 PM

Jeff, try to get past your partisan anger and comprehend...

The specific allegations in the Rezko trial are in no way related to Obama. As a result there will be no new revelations coming out about their realtionship from the trial, as you claim, because it is a totally separate issue.

The land deal, or fundraising for Obama, is not what Rezko is being tried for.

Get it?

The land deal, or fundraising for Obama, is not what Rezko is being tried for.

Get it?

Posted by: Luke | February 19, 2008 6:21 PM
Luke: sometimes people sing like a bird when they're up a tree, Get It ?

U.S. is doomed. The world is doomed. People supporting Obama are too busy hating. Issues are not important to them - Obama has been constantly playing catch up on how to address real issues, and these people are all caught up in their emotions to care. Obama is not just a candidate for presidential nomination any more; he's their idol. They do anything, say anything to protect him. Bush was a nice guy, now it's Obama. What a population!

The death-knell of a campaign that is finished.

I think it’s ashame that people are so mesmerized and hypmatized by Obama’s rhetoric that they are willing to vote for a “Johnny Come Lately” Jr. Senator over an experienced Senator for President when this country is in such a mess. We literally have given this White House back to the Republicans in 2009, because John McCain’s and the media’s attacks and going to chew Obama up and spit him out.

If Obama becomes the Democratic Nominee, I’m staying home and not voting, I don’t trust this man to make good on his promises, I suggest that all true Hillary Supporters stay home as well if you truly don’t trust Obama to be your President, I’m not going to unite behind an experienced candidate in whom I don’t believe and trust to do a good job in the White House starting Day One of his Presidency.

I see this is still a “Man’s World” when it comes to Women trying to break that glass ceiling of becoming President. What I’m looking for in the general election is Obama is the Democratic Nominee most of the White Men switching back to the Republican Nominee John McCain, causing the election to be won again by the Conservative Party, because there still people out there who also does not want an African American President as well, I believe that a lot of Republican's and Independent’s were just voting for Obama to get rid of Hillary, therefore, giving John McCain a better opportunity to win the Presidency.

It’s seems like to me Obama’s Fad Movement Supporters fail for Karl Rove’s “Okey Doke” again. This was a brilliant strategy planned by the Republican Machine, and the Republican biased Cable Media, the Cable Media played a major role in helping to get Obama nominated by pumping him up and not fairly challenging and scrutinizing him on the issues from the start, right now, Obama can do no wrong, until he get’s the nomination; and then this same Republican Cable Media is going to let the hammer down on Obama and pounce him, causing him and his campaign to be politically destroyed. I’m not going to help Obama get out of this pickle by voting him; So “Let The Chips Fall Where They May”, I truly hope Hillary’s Supporters follow my lead and stay home and not vote at all, let Obama’s Fad Movement Supporter’s get what they asked for, another four years of Republican Party Rule. So to repeat, I refuse to take part in uniting the Democratic Party by supporting an inexperienced Presidential Candidate I have no faith and trust in to get things done during his four year term in the Oval Office.