He's kicking Hillary's butt. Does that count as an action?

"THE BOEHNER SPEAKS"

SCREW YOU HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, AND LETS JUST GET UP AND WALK OUT.

WE DON'T NEED TO ADHERE TO THE CONSTITUTION OR SOME STINKIN "CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS" GEORGE BUSH IS THE CONGRESS OF THIS UNITED STATES.

LETS GO TO A BARBECUE RIGHT NOW MY FELLOW REPUBLICANS. LETS WALK OUT OF AMERICAS "HOUSE
AND GO PLAY IN THE "ROSE GARDEN" UNTIL BIG POPPY COMES BACK FROM AFRICA.

WHAT A JOKE! WHAT A CRIME AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION.

SO TODAY, ALL DEMOCRATS ARE ALL TALK AND NO CONSTITUTIONAL BACKBONE.

LONG LIVE NANCY PELOSI!

WHAT A JOKE WHAT A CRIME AGAINST THE CONSTITION.

Everything stated is true
Obama does alot of speaking without really spcifieing any thing he can make happen
Any one of us can go talk about hope and change but one must posess the ability to make it happen
I think alot of the negative feelings come from the media who to now has been afraid to say any thing negative on Bo
Sad but true
The media doesnt want to be called racist any more than the rest
Words have to be chosen so carefully that it is safer to just say nothing
Any one who thought this race isnt about race is wrong the entire thing is based on the dont say any thing about BO
Should he be the nomineee he will crumble when the republicans begin to shread his false persona
Hillary is far from over she will fight to the end no matter what it takes
As will BO but no one will comment on the lengths he is willing to go to for the nomination
Give Hillary credit for withstanding the negative ads media cartoons etc that she has
Bo and his spouse would have already crumbled under such things
They are protected by the race thing and they know it

Unlike spineless Senate Majority Leader Reid, Pelosi sticks it to Bush. I hope she continues to reject the immunity clauses.

Hillary will win Texas by about +7 but lose or tie Ohio. About 16% of those who vote will be AA and that vote is 85-15 for Obama.

Once Ohio men find out about Hillary and NAFTA they will flock to Obama and with AA support make this a tie.

Hillary is all talk no action. Look at the way she is running her campaign, everyone is jumping ship. Soon the superdelegates will start to jump as well.

Hillary's back is up against the wall since she has lost so many states. She seems to be in attack mode now but Obama will prevail.

Anyone who has the intelligence to look at the mess that hasn't changed in Illinois since 2004 knows Obama's all talk. I have no love for Hillary but she's stating the obvious for everybody but Chris Matthews and the rest of the "obama gives me that tingly feeling in my leg" crowd.

Hillary will say anything to get elected and change nothing. Obama is the true agent of change. He is a brilliant man with clear vision and an amazing ability to bring people together to work toward the common goal of making American better. Not only would he make a better contender in the presidential race against McCain than Hillary, but he'd also make a much better president.

Well, Hillary just blew any sympathy that she might have gained by losing eight consecutive contests to Obama. She is the veritable queen of mistakes and gaffes. Also, Obama's book, "The Audacity of Hope," contains most of the program he is formally introducing this week--and the book was written a couple of years ago, before Hillary declared for the presidency.

And, there is always an undertone of nastinesss in her rhetoric, as well as substantial distortion and untruth.

I cannot wait until Obama defeats her and she withdraws from the race.

Don't elect another egomaniac sociopathic liar for president!! ANYBODY but her!

I hate to agree with the Queen B, but in a all his years as a state senator and as a U.S. senator (in which most of that term has been campaigning) Barack has done nothing. House pets get more accomplished in one day than Barack gets accomplished in year. But then the Queen B has accomplished nothing in her life as well. I take that back, she has aided and abetted a serial woman abuser her entire life.

I'm not surprised taht Hillary is attacking Barack. It's more of the same from the failed politics of Bush/Clinton.

Just because Barack can actually inspire people and bring new voters to the process for the Democratic Party does not mean that he is "all talk and no action." He has shown remarkable leadership already in organizing a grass roots campaign that is winning. What is she and Bill doing? --except dividing their own party and not even delivering a compelling campaign, let alone a compelling presidency.

Here we go desperate Hilary will nor just become negative but play as Dirty as possible.

The real problem with Hilary is, she will never see the real problem which is HERSELF! this weeks two leading members of her campaign team is a perfect example, they never resigned they where Sacked!

Hilary should no what Action was Bill got plenty of it in the White House and they both know what lies are, but then as I said Hilary will never see the real problem.

"obama gives me that tingly feeling in my leg" crowd.

Posted by: Jeff | February 14, 2008 2:40 PM

Unlike "Insane McCain" when he can barely get it out "I'm fired up".

Was he up to late?

Really old Seniors for McCain!

Words and speeches are the fundamental currency of politics. I would think her vast experience would make that obvious to her.

Let's see if she can win the presidency without saying anything for the next 8 months.

obama knows how to run a great campaign. hillary knows how to run a great country.

Oh yes, the Obama "has no position", "no platform", & "no experience" argument again. I am not surprised that Hillary is pulling out the stops in light of recent events, and let's be honest- she's just fighting for the face time that she needs right now, and who can blame her? However, the misinformation circulating about Obama's "inexperience" is appalling. I have diligently searched for policy details and financial specifics, and ironically find it much more difficult to find them on her website or on news sites re: her platform than can be found on Obama's platform in about 5 minutes if you know how to use a search engine. If you want, you can find an actual CV on Obama on Chicago U. Law’s website.

Apparently, if you are a skilled & eloquent orator, if you "inspire" people and are articulate- that's spells danger for you politically. Indeed, the inspiring speech is evidence as to why you MUST lack substance on issues and policy, because in America we have come to not just expect, but actually *desire* that our politicians bore us, or scare us, or both.

For what it's worth, there are many things I believe are to be admired about Hillary, but I also firmly believe that Obama is the better candidate to face down McCain, to inspire the country to roll up its sleeves, and to dispense with the bipartisan blood bath that has gone on so long. If you truly are interested in some facts about Obama's platform, here they are:

Here is a 59-page policy handbook:

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

Here is a financial analysis of his most recent mention in his Wisconsin speech about an immediate economic stimulus plan:
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/02/13/obama-unveils-210-billion-economic-stimulus-plan/

While it's true Barack is quite liberal, there is absolutely no denying that currently, he has more moderate and conservative support than Senator Clinton does However, it is interesting to note that the things for which Obama is often criticized, e.g., "being too liberal" and having "too little experience," the government's OWN statistics refute:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd

Type in each candidate's last names and look at their voting records, the names and substance of bills drafted and supported, and basic biographical info .

Hillary is considered a "radical liberal" on the senate information website, while Obama is considered to be a bit right of that as a "rank and file" democrat. This designation is based upon their votes.

Although Obama has 11 years of legislative experience (5 more years than Hillary) his critics cry "no fair" only the national legislation counts. O.K.--even within these parameters, Obama has passed into law in 3 years (with bills that he authored or co-authored) 5 pieces of substantive legislation, while Hillary has passed into law in 6 years time, 6 substantive bills that she has authored or coauthored. He essentially has accomplished the same job in half the time. Although Hillary has about 26 bills that have become law, 20 of them are things like "name post office after Thurgood Marshall" and "Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship." Here are the substantive legislation each has passed:

Hillary:
1. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
2. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
3. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
4. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
5. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

Here is Obama's:
1. the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
2. The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
3.The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
4.The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
5.The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee)

There is a wealth of information on both candidates to be found if you really are interested in the issues and not in recycling the same flaccid arguments about the candidate whom you do not support. Look, there are two viable democrats in the running right now-- and I for one will be voting for either of them come Nov. Having said that, I firmly believe Senator Obama to be the better candidate for the man he is, the intellect he is, and the accident that is called "timing." Vote the way you want, support whomever you admire for whatever reason you wish: emotions, nostalgia, playing it safe, feeling inspired, etc., but stop being dishonest about the other party's platform and substance. If you want details, they can be found.

I haven't been a big fan of Hillary but I honestly believe Obama is like an empty vessel people are pouring their vision of a great leader into. He really hasn't done anything substantial in his career. I really don't want another affable guy getting on-the-job training in the Whitehouse!

The campaigns speak for themselves. One is well organized, smart, and is better due to learning from mistakes. The other is a fiasco and in shambles.

Now Obama hits them with the specifics professor style with well-educated people working for and with him. This will be the knockout blow for Clinton and McCain!!!

She's like a dark cloud...please bring the sunshine back! Obama?????

I have never liked politics. I haven't seen one politician do what they say.But this year Obama has caught my attention. I believe in him and the great things he WILL do as president. GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!

I have never liked politics. I haven't seen one politician do what they say.But this year Obama has caught my attention. I believe in him and the great things he WILL do as president. GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!

obama gives me that tingly feeling in my leg" crowd.

Posted by: Jeff | February 14, 2008 2:40 PM

Jeffy,

We've noticed that you get a tingly feeling in your leg when you bottle feed old man McCain.

John McCain: Constipated and Ready to Go!
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi190.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz172%2Fbruinbirdman%2Fjohn-mccain.jpg&searchTerm=mccain&pageOffset=3

The man has mobilized a huge portion of the electorate into ACTION while she 'presents'her resume. Won't they, whomever is nominated, want this force in action in November? He is beating her hands down in 'action' in every sphere; fundraising, states covered, numbers etc. He is a great communicator. She won't be in position to implement any ideas if her present actions do not have the desired effect now.
RESULTS is a measurement of action.

and please tell me how just because she says she is going to do something in the future is more indicative of action than what he says he's going to do in the future? He has done a lot in his career that is action oriented. Her biggest policy thus far has been health care -- and it showed no action. Gimme a break. Hillary is trying to spin her "tough" boring speeches as equivilant to greater action than Obama's more inspirational speeches. The reality is neither one of them has acted on their declarations yet because neither one of them has yet been elected.

For everyone who says that Obama has done nothing, welcome back from the cave you've been living in for the past 10 years. I only wished you did some unbiased research of Obama's record before spreading another ignorance virus over the internet. Next time, instead of demonstrating what enormous gobs of intelligence you lack, just type "Go Clinton's!", which actually means "Go McCain!"

" Vote the way you want, support whomever you admire for whatever reason you wish: emotions, nostalgia, playing it safe, feeling inspired, etc., but stop being dishonest about the other party's platform and substance."

Joy, how about issues, do democrats ever think about issues?

Senator Clinton is once again disparaging Senator Obama on what she sees as lack of substance and experience. Here are the FACTS, folks!

Senator Clinton has based her campaign on an erroneous claim to greater legislative and administrative experience. Former President Clinton talks up her role in his administration on the campaign trail but pointedly refuses to release any documents that would provide greater details on her actual activities there. It is broadly understood that Hillary spearheaded the response team that staved off Republican attacks and spun the many scandals of the Clinton years. As to her Senate record, no one in the press has had the diligence to lay out her record for the public to assess.

Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

Only five of Clinton's bills are more substantive.

16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.
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Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.

In all since enter the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record for someone who supposedly has no record according to the spin meisters and mindless twits. I challenge Clinton supporters to name a single legislative accomplishment that demonstrates her superior experience."
Posted by: Mark

Mark was very conscientious about getting the facts straight. I applaud him!

A candidate will run their administration the way they run their campaign. Which candidate has their records sealed? Hillary!! Which candidate HAS released their tax returns? Obama!! Which candidate won't release their tax returns? Hillary!!! Which candidate takes money from lobbyist to fund their campaign? Hillary!!! Which candidate lies to the american people on the campaign trail? Hillary!!! Like I said....a candidate will run their administration the way they run their campaign.

Its funny how when Hillary was up in delegates she wanted to play nice and now that things aren't going well she's back on the attack. Make up your mind Hillary!! What kind of campaign do you want to run?? If she gets in the White House will she keep changing her tune when things don't go right?

"All talk and no action" is turning up the heat.

Ohio LOVES Hillary!
Pennsylvania LOVES Hillary!
Texas LOVES Hillary!

Hillary Clinton has BIG leads in the upcoming primaries.

As Ohio goes, so goes the nation. No one can win the Presidency without winning Ohio. In Ohio, Hillary beats Obama,and more importantly, she polls well against McCain.

In spite of the 24/7 hit job on Hillary by the corporate owned media, the left wingnut radio, the right wingnuts, and rabid Obama supporters, Hillary stands STRONG, battle tested and battle ready.

Don't get fooled again. Why do you think the corporate owned media endlessly promote Obama 24/7? BEcause, he's unelectable. The media and their rethuglican pals are postively gleeful at the prospect of an Obama nomination, because he cannot win!

Hillary can beat them at their own game, they FEAR her!

VOTE SMART! VOTE HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT!

BOYCOTT MSNBC
BOYCOTT OPRAH

All I got to say is you are all crazy if you vote for Obama. Think about it what is he? He sure doesn't stand for change. He is still in diapers himself. He stinks big time. Hillary has my vote and many like me. I believe it is time a women showed you men how to work and get things done. I think the women are crazy if they don't vote for Hillary. If Obama gets in we will regret it. Mark my words. Knowing and doing are 2 different things. He does not stand for change . Also please do not put Obama in the same league as JFK. That is an insult to JFK's legacy. Obama does not even come close.

Everybody talks about experience but wasn't it 8 yrs of Bush experience that got us into this mess we are in?? People keep saying experience counts in the White House but I can't see how bringing in someone who's not tainted by Washington politics is any worst than Bush. In case some of us forgot we are in a war and facing a recession.

"HILLARY SPEAKS"

ALL TALK AND NO ACTION IS LIKE SAYING OBAMA CAN BEAT ME ONE ON ONE ON THE BASKETBALL COURT.

ALL TALK AND NO ACTION IS LIKE SAYING OBAMA MESSAGE OF "CHANGE" IS WORTH MORE THAN A EURO!

ALL TALK AND NO ACTION IS SAYING SENATOR OBAMA WOULDN'T MAKE A GREAT VICE PRESIDENT AS HE EXTENDS HIS HAND OF "CHANGE"

ALL TALK AND NO ACTION, NOT ONE "SAGGY BOTTOM NO BELT WEARING" VOTER SHOWED UP!

ALL TALK AND NO ACTION, HEALTHCARE FOR UNMARRIED WOMEN IS NOT A CRIME, IT'S NOT A PRIVILEDGE, IT'S A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT AS A HUMAN BEING.

ALL TALK AND NO ACTION IS WHEN AMERICA HAS TO PASS AN ACT TO PROTECT ITSELF.

ALL TALK AND NO ACTION, "WHATEVA"

Karl Rove must be proud of Hillary Clinton today. Name calling and false accusations at their best. She is a failing candidate who has never had a solution in her life, other than those she stole from Obama or someone else. She is snarling and foaming at the mouth like a diseased dog. What a repulsive human being she has become.

All I have to say is, I can not think of voting for someone, who could not run a decent campaign, how can she run the country.

And she is vowing to do economic reforms HA HA HA.

The shame of it all. Obama's campaign is hinged on racism, perpetuated by his wife! No one is willing to speak out against it, despite the truth. It's discrimination no matter what clothing you put over it. To use race in these terrible ways is plain and simple wrong! For those that say they are for change, how about a real change - stop being racists! Let's look at the real issues that affect us as AMERICANS! Something so many in this country noadays don't seem to understand.

Hillary is all talk -- period. Isn't it ironic that the Clinton's are once again out there on the campaign trial, making rhetorical promises and policy statements (all talk) and then she accuses Obama of being all talk. Humm.

The Clinton's are the masters of rhetorical reframing and bifurcation of words and meaning. Both of them. Billary. Billary is a language onto itself.

This is the pot calling the kettle black.

Obama wins white voters in every income bracket above $60,000 and loses in every income bracket below $60,000. You know why? Because people who make
over $60,000 a year don't have to worry about bread and butter issues like:
can I pay the mortgage? Am I going to have to use ketchup instead of spaghetti sauce for my kids dinner tonight? How am I going to pay for gas to get to work and also pay the heating bill? The white voters who make over $60,000 per year want the nice emotional "pat on the back" and “good feeling” they get from voting for Barack Obama. They talk about "change"and "inspiration" when the children of people who maker under $60,000 per year are dying in Iraq (75% of casualties in Iraq are from white families and they aren't the Rockefeller or Kennedy kids). But, what do the rich white Marie Antoinette Democrats in America say to poor Americans as they project all their fantasies onto the blank canvas that is Barack Obama: "Let Them Eat Cake".

Scott--

Did you read my post???? There are over 7o pages provided through direct links and actual names of Bills I provide for anyone interested in "issues". Yes my friend, I am interested in issues. I also believe that like it or not a huge protion of the population Democrats and Republicans alike in the final analysis vote for people whose platform, style, and perceived character most closely resemble their own (or rather their "ideal" idea of themselves). The conservative/fundamentalist wing of the Republican party is not known for its rational, unemotional support of candidates. I am dispensing with the whole flipping argument. I say, vote how you will. But let those who ARE interested in policy and specifics not be lied to on these boards. If you want specifics here they are (above). Would you like Obama's CV as well? The transcripts to his two best-selling books which give enough, policy, biography, and details to satisfy even the most tenacious and indefatigable of cynics?

C'mon. Read.

At the beginning of this campaign when Barack first announced his candidacy, Senator Obama began round-table discussions, smaller scale speeches and interviews whereby he was criticized for his "dull" and "professorial" speeches which were then "too bogged down with detail" and not dynamic and inspiring enough. Audacity of Hope was written over two years ago. Tons of policy specifics in it. His website has a 59 page policy handbook as well as cheat sheets for those who can't bear to read that much policy (most of the nation), his voting record and the specific legislation he has passed is available on the congressional website, his CV can be found on the University of Chicago website. His Illinois legislative record (encompassing over a thousand bills) is easily obtainable online. His recent specific economic plans (delivered in actual campaign speeches) is parsable on economic websites.

Let's cut the crap. Hillary is a fine candidate, McCain is a war hero, Obama is Presidential material.

All I got to say is you are all crazy if you vote for Obama. Think about it what is he? He sure doesn't stand for change. He is still in diapers himself. He stinks big time.
Posted by: Annie Lewis | February 14, 2008 3:36 PM

I'm guessing that you must be 11...12? Check NinaK's post at 3:28PM and then rewrite your comment. It's a good idea to put a little research into your homework.

And BTW, why wouldn't you say that JFK was still in diapers?

Ragarding Hillary Clinton, does not anybody find it strange that for 28 years the United States should be ruled by members of two families (Bush, Clinton)..?

Obama for President! I think it's time for change! In a major way. We are in trouble as a nation!
I think we all need to remeber that. As long as it's not another Republican in office,we may just see some change for the better. Obama for President. That's real!

Scott--

Did you read my post???? There are over 70 pages provided through direct links and actual names of Bills I provide-- for anyone interested in "issues". Yes my friend, I am interested in issues. I also believe that like it or not a huge portion of the population, Democrats and Republicans alike, in the final analysis vote for people whose platform, style, and perceived character most closely resemble their own (or rather their "ideal" idea of themselves). The conservative/fundamentalist wing of the Republican party is not known for its rational, unemotional support of candidates. I am dispensing with the whole flipping argument. I say, vote how you will. But let those who ARE interested in policy and specifics not be lied to on these boards. If you want specifics here they are (above). Would you like Obama's CV as well? The transcripts to his two best-selling books which give enough policy, biography, and details to satisfy even the most tenacious and indefatigable of cynics?

C'mon. Read.

At the beginning of this campaign when Barack first announced his candidacy, Senator Obama began round-table discussions, smaller scale speeches and interviews whereby he was criticized for his "dull" and "professorial" speeches which were then "too bogged down with detail" and not dynamic and inspiring enough. Audacity of Hope was written over two years ago. Tons of policy specifics in it. His website has a 59 page policy handbook as well as cheat sheets for those who can't bear to read that much policy (most of the nation), his voting record and the specific legislation he has passed is available on the congressional website, his CV can be found on the University of Chicago website. His Illinois legislative record (encompassing over a thousand bills) is easily obtainable online. His recent specific economic plans (delivered in actual campaign speeches) is parsable on economic websites.

Let's cut the crap.

It's about time. She should have done this long time ago.

On another news Obama folks don't want FL delegates seated because that's against the party rules. Even though the FL people didn't do any wrong. But they like to see the superdelegates vote with the pledged delegates? Hum. sounds like double standard to me. According to the rule they could vote for who ever they like!

Rules are rules and abide by it. Didn’t Gore win the popular vote

It's about time. She should have done this long time ago.

On another news Obama folks don't want FL delegates seated because that's against the party rules. Even though the FL people didn't do any wrong. But they like to see the superdelegates vote with the pledged delegates? Hum. sounds like double standard to me. According to the rule they could vote for who ever they like!

Rules are rules and abide by it. Didn’t Gore win the popular vote

Hillary is obviously getting desperate and running out of things to say. Why won't she just go away?

It's about time. She should have done this long time ago.

On another news Obama folks don't want FL delegates seated because that's against the party rules. Even though the FL people didn't do any wrong. But they like to see the superdelegates vote with the pledged delegates? Hum. sounds like double standard to me. According to the rule they could vote for who ever they like!

Rules are rules and abide by it. Didn’t Gore win the popular vote

What change has Obama brought to IL other than politics as usual. Think for yourself and do not let the media think for you. Obama is a fraud who is campaigning on a lie of beinf a diff kind of pol. He is a Cook County Hack in the worst sense of the word. He helped Rezko receive $14 mill in IL State money and helped steer millions to the U of Chicago in 2006 while his wife was on the board of directors. Obama = Fraud.

Hilary made up my mind for me when I found out she voted for the bankruptcy law. Iraq without remorse was bad enough, but hubris is too much.

For those who might wish to do so, there is plenty of substance to be found on Barack Obama's website.

A huge amount of money has been given to the Clinton campaign by PAC's and registered Washington lobbyists. Please don't tell me that they don't expect anything in return.

In sharp contrast, Obama's campaign has accepted no money from either.

Folks, if you want business as usual in Washington, then Clinton is your candidate. But, if you want a shot at *real* change, and I do, I have no doubt that Obama should be your choice.

Obama'08

--George

All talk, no work! Here is the fact:\

Obama voted 100 time " present" instead of Yes or No in Illinois state Senate voting record. This indicated he did not work hard enough on the bills he was voting. Instead he could only vote "present" to show that he was there.
Obama has been absent in 44% US senate voting activities. This means about half time, he was not even working in the Senate.

Right now, "change" is only a word. It can go right, it can go wrong. Do we really want to bet our country's future upon this "Present" and absent guy? Think about it!

"All talk and no action?" The voters have gotten plenty of action, watching Obama beat her silliness up and down the primary calendar.

Maybe she should learn to run a campaign before trying to run the country.

Obama has run a smart, well thought out campaign. what exactly would be the point for him of quibbling over minute details with HRC on the issues? the minute details would be irrelevant when she started with name recognition, which was why she was the inevitable nominee in the beginning. not much difference between candidates? vote for the name you know and are comfortable with. his inspirational speeches established him as a name to know and name to believe in. his speeches almost single-handedly brought him into the same frame as Clinton and her instant name recognition.

now, as the media-designated front-runner, he is rolling out his plans on a larger scale, as they relate to the Republican nominee, where distinctions matter.

from the beginning, his campaign has had an effective long-term strategy. he has run a smart and fiscally responsible campaign.

If it comes to McCain & Obama, I will be voting for McCain because
a) They both are equal on economy (near zeros)
b) Mr. Obama has no chance against Mr. McCain on national security. One time “no” wonder in a private setting won’t cut it. Come on now, he said he was against war and no one knows what he would have done he if he has seen what the senate as seen and told by Bush.
b) I believe Mr. McCain will take bold steps (on all issues especially campaign finances) as I don’t think he will care for a second term as he is already 70. Mr. Obama on the other hand will be status quo and keep Washington happy so he could win the next term.

Please help me vote democrat this year. Go Hillary.

Posted by: Vinny | February 14, 2008 4:47 PM

Vinny's back, and still hasn't updated his eyeglass prescription. The Rezko thing has been beaten for so long, that there's nothing left to identify. I'll also admonish you to read the previous posts that list bills that Obama has written and sponsored. Someone with a name like Vinny calling someone else a fraud is just plain laughable.

The Clintons have too much baggage! This country needs a fresh start from the tired old political bikering !!

I will prefer Obama anyday who is not too partisan, mean-spirited, and doesn't consider the opposition an adversary. He already even gets along with everybody on both sides.

What is Clinton saying? That all the masses voting for Obama over her are all stupid?? Please !!

America doesn't need the ever vengeful, fuming Clintons who think the democratic party belongs to them !!

Jay

Right now, "change" is only a word. It can go right, it can go wrong. Do we really want to bet our country's future upon this "Present" and absent guy? Think about it!

Posted by: Anonymous | February 14, 2008 5:14 PM

Nice try idiot,

If you actually did any research on Illinois before you opened up your Republican pie-hole you would know that voting present in Illinois means that you're not satified with the way a bill is written and you want to negotiate on it further...and make sure you tell that to your other fake post name on this thread, "VINNY".

John McCain missed 65% of the votes in the Senate this past year (2007), more than any other Congressman other than Tim Johnson, who was recovering from a brain aneurysm.

I really cannot understand why some people say that Senator Obama is all talk no substance. He was a community organizer who became known to the community through his effort to improve living conditions of some of the worst neighborhood in Chicago. Mind you, working for the people who lived in some of the worst neighborhood of Chicago and eventually forced the city/state to remove asbestos from those buildings and help to improve the living conditions there, one of many achievement of Mr. Obama, is very different from volunteer charity work often include in students resumes.

Later on, he went to Harvard law school, became a civil rights lawyer, state senator and passed many landmark legislatures in Illinois before he became US Senator. He is actually a policy wonk (ask his University of Chicago colleagues) but he has a very different approach to policy making. Like his campaign organization, his policy making process is grass root (coming from the bottom). When he was putting his Healthcare proposals together, I remember Obama holding a number of town hall meetings to solicit input from key stake holders in health care, i.e., medical professionals, healthcare workers, insurance companies and PEOPLE like us. His decisions, not to create single-payer healthcare, leaving freedom of choice among government sponsored healthcare plan & employer (private sector insurance), and not to mandate for coverage, all came from those town halls: As a result of Obama listening to the Voice of stakeholders.

As Obama often states, I believe one of the reasons why so many healthcare proposals failed is the detachment of law makers from the general public, a key stakeholder (constituents of the healthcare debate). The policy makers ignored the voice of the key constituents, the people. They only listened to the insurance companies and drug companies behind the closed doors. Needless to say, this kind of behavior, listening to special interests and do not obtain adequate input from general public create another problem, corruption in Washington.

You see now, why Senator Obama is big on Change.

Senator Obama is constructing his change argument on the belief that the majority of people would welcome departure from the status quo. Examples of the status quo are; the situation in Iraq, lack of adequate health care system, current education system, current state of economy, and the list goes on and on. Apparently, he does not think the status quo is working. That’s why he proposes to change the status quo! In order to transform the country, America needs right kind of leadership. Policy knowledge and proposals are important for any future president, however, ability to make excellent policy proposals alone or having long years in Washington are not the most important requirement. No worries, Senator Obama prepared overwhelming number of well thought out policy proposals as Senator Clinton did and he has over 10 years of state level and national level experience (see WWW.BarackObama.Com).

Leadership is what’s important and where Senators Clinton and Obama differ significantly.

She is a policy wonk, very experienced and seems to regard her 35 years of experience (former First Lady of Arkansas, the United States and US Senator in Washington) as her qualification for an enabler of Change. Senator Obama offers a rare leadership that is characterized with vision, courage and sound judgments to transform this country. I know many effective managers who can deliver results by giving tasks to the employees, keeping track of their work and controlling their behavior through reword and punishment. President of the United States is not a mere manager but a leader of the free world. Much is asked for such leader. He should be able to influence/inspire/move people by sharing his visions and earn trust through his ability to lead the country to the right direction by making sound judgment for critical issues at the moment when it is at stake. That’s our Senator Obama. Look, he has created a movement from the ground up by sharing his visions and earning trust from people through his straight forward campaign.

Ohio truly represents the “microcosm” of America. Obama and his campagin fail miserably to understand the depth and complexity of America's economy. Hillary will be the only person that can revitalize our economy. Are Americans too senile or too young to remember? "By the end of the Clinton presidency, the numbers were uniformly impressive. Besides the record-high surpluses and the record-low poverty rates, the economy could boast the longest economic expansion in history; the lowest unemployment since the early 1970s; and the lowest poverty rates for single mothers, black Americans, and the aged. Real wages, after declining over the course of the Reagan and Bush years, rose under Clinton. To be sure, the gap between the very rich and everyone else widened—as it has continued to do since—but gains for the rich, for once, didn't leave behind the poor and lower middle class."

Look where we are now people. This is a result (along with numerous other screw-ups) of having on-the-job-training president for the last 8 years. We CANNOT afford another 4 years of such administration. Hillary can get things done, and she will get things done. She can actually bring change to America and not just talking about change. If we do not have to deal with all the turmoils (failed economy, Iraq, poor healthcare)along with other problems in the world, then we can probably spend a few years training a president. WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE TIME NOW. Please look at the result of the current administration. We need a bold and effective Hillary Clinton in the house to bring real changes!

By the way, I think Hillary needs to be more critical of Obama and his campaign. That's what progressive people do, constructive criticism. I don't understand why Obama's fans are offended that Hillary points out his obvious (to some of us) flaws. I respect that Obama is running for president. However, I do not think he's qualified for the Commander in Cheif position. I have yet met an Obama's supporter (& I am surrounded by many) who can truly tell me why he's a good candidate.

I really cannot understand why some people say that Senator Obama is all talk no substance. He was a community organizer who became known to the community through his effort to improve living conditions of some of the worst neighborhood in Chicago. Mind you, working for the people who lived in some of the worst neighborhood of Chicago and eventually forced the city/state to remove asbestos from those buildings and help to improve the living conditions there, one of many achievement of Mr. Obama, is very different from volunteer charity work often include in students resumes.

Later on, he went to Harvard law school, became a civil rights lawyer, state senator and passed many landmark legislatures in Illinois before he became US Senator. He is actually a policy wonk (ask his University of Chicago colleagues) but he has a very different approach to policy making. Like his campaign organization, his policy making process is grass root (coming from the bottom). When he was putting his Healthcare proposals together, I remember Obama holding a number of town hall meetings to solicit input from key stake holders in health care, i.e., medical professionals, healthcare workers, insurance companies and PEOPLE like us. His decisions, not to create single-payer healthcare, leaving freedom of choice among government sponsored healthcare plan & employer (private sector insurance), and not to mandate for coverage, all came from those town halls: As a result of Obama listening to the Voice of stakeholders.

As Obama often states, I believe one of the reasons why so many healthcare proposals failed is the detachment of law makers from the general public, a key stakeholder (constituents of the healthcare debate). The policy makers ignored the voice of the key constituents, the people. They only listened to the insurance companies and drug companies behind the closed doors. Needless to say, this kind of behavior, listening to special interests and do not obtain adequate input from general public create another problem, corruption in Washington.

You see now, why Senator Obama is big on Change.

Senator Obama is constructing his change argument on the belief that the majority of people would welcome departure from the status quo. Examples of the status quo are; the situation in Iraq, lack of adequate health care system, current education system, current state of economy, and the list goes on and on. Apparently, he does not think the status quo is working. That’s why he proposes to change the status quo! In order to transform the country, America needs right kind of leadership. Policy knowledge and proposals are important for any future president, however, ability to make excellent policy proposals alone or having long years in Washington are not the most important requirement. No worries, Senator Obama prepared overwhelming number of well thought out policy proposals as Senator Clinton did and he has over 10 years of state level and national level experience (see WWW.BarackObama.Com).

Leadership is what’s important and where Senators Clinton and Obama differ significantly.

She is a policy wonk, very experienced and seems to regard her 35 years of experience (former First Lady of Arkansas, the United States and US Senator in Washington) as her qualification for an enabler of Change. Senator Obama offers a rare leadership that is characterized with vision, courage and sound judgments to transform this country. I know many effective managers who can deliver results by giving tasks to the employees, keeping track of their work and controlling their behavior through reword and punishment. President of the United States is not a mere manager but a leader of the free world. Much is asked for such leader. He should be able to influence/inspire/move people by sharing his visions and earn trust through his ability to lead the country to the right direction by making sound judgment for critical issues at the moment when it is at stake. That’s our Senator Obama. Look, he has created a movement from the ground up by sharing his visions and earning trust from people through his straight forward campaign.

Boy, I am so happy that Hillary is FINALLY telling it like it is!! Obama is a joke! He was so arrogant to even run for president with no experience! We don't need an inspirational speaker in the White House!! We need a person who KNOWS how to do the job and will do the job well!! And that person is NOT Obama!! THAT PERSON IS HILLARY CLINTON!!!

I really cannot understand why some people say that Senator Obama is all talk no substance. He was a community organizer who became known to the community through his effort to improve living conditions of some of the worst neighborhood in Chicago. Mind you, working for the people who lived in some of the worst neighborhood of Chicago and eventually forced the city/state to remove asbestos from those buildings and help to improve the living conditions there, one of many achievement of Mr. Obama, is very different from volunteer charity work often include in students resumes.

Later on, he went to Harvard law school, became a civil rights lawyer, state senator and passed many landmark legislatures in Illinois before he became US Senator. He is actually a policy wonk (ask his University of Chicago colleagues) but he has a very different approach to policy making. Like his campaign organization, his policy making process is grass root (coming from the bottom). When he was putting his Healthcare proposals together, I remember Obama holding a number of town hall meetings to solicit input from key stake holders in health care, i.e., medical professionals, healthcare workers, insurance companies and PEOPLE like us. His decisions, not to create single-payer healthcare, leaving freedom of choice among government sponsored healthcare plan & employer (private sector insurance), and not to mandate for coverage, all came from those town halls: As a result of Obama listening to the Voice of stakeholders.

As Obama often states, I believe one of the reasons why so many healthcare proposals failed is the detachment of law makers from the general public, a key stakeholder (constituents of the healthcare debate). The policy makers ignored the voice of the key constituents, the people. They only listened to the insurance companies and drug companies behind the closed doors. Needless to say, this kind of behavior, listening to special interests and do not obtain adequate input from general public create another problem, corruption in Washington.

You see now, why Senator Obama is big on Change.

Senator Obama is constructing his change argument on the belief that the majority of people would welcome departure from the status quo. Examples of the status quo are; the situation in Iraq, lack of adequate health care system, current education system, current state of economy, and the list goes on and on. Apparently, he does not think the status quo is working. That’s why he proposes to change the status quo! In order to transform the country, America needs right kind of leadership. Policy knowledge and proposals are important for any future president, however, ability to make excellent policy proposals alone or having long years in Washington are not the most important requirement. No worries, Senator Obama prepared overwhelming number of well thought out policy proposals as Senator Clinton did and he has over 10 years of state level and national level experience (see WWW.BarackObama.Com).

Leadership is what’s important and where Senators Clinton and Obama differ significantly.

She is a policy wonk, very experienced and seems to regard her 35 years of experience (former First Lady of Arkansas, the United States and US Senator in Washington) as her qualification for an enabler of Change. Senator Obama offers a rare leadership that is characterized with vision, courage and sound judgments to transform this country. I know many effective managers who can deliver results by giving tasks to the employees, keeping track of their work and controlling their behavior through reword and punishment. President of the United States is not a mere manager but a leader of the free world. Much is asked for such leader. He should be able to influence/inspire/move people by sharing his visions and earn trust through his ability to lead the country to the right direction by making sound judgment for critical issues at the moment when it is at stake. That’s our Senator Obama. Look, he has created a movement from the ground up by sharing his visions and earning trust from people through his straight forward campaign.

Geez--some of these posts are scarey. Do y'all think for one moment it is coincidence that a mullato is running at the same time as a woman. Of course there is major racism fear in this campaign and sexism. Have you ever seen a candidate in a primary race not being vetted. Have you ever seen the lack of representation by the MSM when accomplishments have been achieved? Why do you think they are pushing Obama--He cannot win against McCain and if you think some pep rally following is going to save him in November--guess again. I have voted democrat for decades and I will vote for McCain---but in reality I am not worried about it because Hillary will win the nomination. As far as the Fl and Mi primaries of course those delegates will be counted--What are they going to say--"We the people of 48--oooops I mean 46 states" choose blah-blah --blah to be our nomination. Get a grip.

Hillary is relying on standard political campaign tricks: make up a narrative and hammer it forever. Raise questions about your opponent rather than give information about yourself. Make speeches in which you disparage speeches. Next she'll be bringing out a little person with a broom, a la "O Brother Where Art Thou."

Barack Obama, with his honesty, integrity, and respect for my intelligence has earned my support. But if he's not on the ballot, I really doubt I'll bother to vote. I know Bush won't be up for election, so if I can't vote for a visionary leader, why should I vote for a political hack like HRC?

Let's cut the crap. Hillary is a fine candidate, McCain is a war hero, Obama is Presidential material.

Posted by: Joy | February 14, 2008 4:05 PM

Presidential material ? Not now, maybe later. Right now, we need someone who had enough professional commitment to complete at least one term in the Senate for his adoptive state of Illinois. Grandiose ambition is like an ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER. REmember, Obama was seated as Senator in January 2005. He declared his intention to become President in Feburary 2007. What was it? Was being a Senator not grandiose enough for his ego, or did the smell of power defeat his commitment to the people of Illinois who voted him to be their Senator. Be wary of rhetoric that uplifts a desperate people; words are alluring and destructive at the same time. Just look at the "fear" rhetoric used by the Bush administration to induce Americans to support this bogus war. Frankly, action do speak louder than words - and a man who cannot fulfill his commitment to serve at least one term in the U.S. Senate and vote on major issues because he is too busy promoting himself for President shows a man who has an attention deficit which will not cure our three trillion dollar deficit.

Oh, yes he did serve in the State Senate, but often on the "fence".

*yawn*

Hillary is getting thrashed by a person with better judgement and who she deems is all talk. She cannot even manage a proper campaign. Apparently she cannot take the time to go to Barack's website to read the specifics. He has a 64+ page "Roadmap to America" there - http://www.barackobama.com

To put it simply, he out-organized your arrogant arse!

Yes, Hillary has completed one US senate term (6 years). She has three more years in the office than Obama does. She has twelve years of First Lady experience (although there is no clear standard or details released as to what that experience exactly constitutes-- I am going to grant you that it probably gives some valuable insight into certain things about living and working in the Governor's Mansion and the White House, though I think there are easy arguments against this which I am sure the Republicans will not hesitate to employ). She was also an attorney widely considered extremely intelligent who did two years of children's advocacy work one year of work on the Nixon impeachment, and some 10 odd years of private practice/corporate law. Impressive. She's intelligent. Yale degree. Smart husband. I will avoid mentioning any of the Clinton-gate controversies associated with any of this experience. Let's pretend it was all uncontroversial.

Senator Obama has had 11 years of actual legislative experience, has passed into law as many substantive Bills as Hillary has at the National level in half the time. He has been a Civil Rights and Voting Associate Attorney and an "Of Counsel" Litigator since 1993. He has been a law professor at the University of Chicago Law School, specializing in Constitutional law for 13 years. Since 1988, he organized two major grassroots campaigns whose successes are widely considered to have been responsible for his widespread and extremely popular Illinois support for the state senate seat where he served 8 years (96-04). His three years in the Senate, despite his run for the presidency has yielded the SAME amount of substantive bills as Clinton has accomplished.

Obama has said that he did not intend to run for President when he joined the US Senate. There has been a dynamic movement to get him to run since 2004. I wonder if Hillary, when she assumed her Senate Seat had any intention to run for President? Many Clinton supporters would likely say no. Seems disingenuous to think that she did not have this in mind. I say, what does it matter? They are running. Let's stop whining about it.

They both have extensive experience. They are both Ivy League educated liberals (Hillary is considered more liberal based on her voting record as according to the US Congressional Website). However, one person inspires, one person (in my opinion) has smarter policy proposals that combines private and public funding and involvement, thereby giving all sectors a stake and interest in his policy, and thus a more tenable set of solutions for the problems we are struggling with. One person has broader independent and Republican support. This last bit may be unfair to Hillary, since a lot of conservatives resent the successes of Bill Clinton's administration and hate her for it. Fair or not-- the divisive, polarizing aspect of her presence in the presendential race makes her the weaker candidate.

There are many similarities between these two candidates. The experience issue is not one. Barack Obama has more legislative experience. In the final analysis people want a woman, or they want a clinton, or they want a bank account similar to the one they had in the 90's. Let's keep talking but let's be honest and let's be civil. Time will tell, but the inexperience argument is BOGUS.

Listening to Clinton supporters is like listening to some of the adolescents defend Britney. None of it is her fault, its someone else's fault, she's wonderful, she's the best, she's the most accomplished and she's not an unfit mother. The number of things one has to overlook to be a Britney fan is staggering. Likewise with the Clintons.

Could you be any more stupidly racist Josephine? People haven't said mulatto since the Civil War.
However I am for Hillary Clinton!! GO HILLARY!

The media sucks!! They are so one-sided in favor of B.O. that I have stopped watching altogether.

I can no longer watch the media choosing a candidate for me. I am so tired of the punditry talking about how Hillary is the front runner trying to play the underdog game, etc. Who named Hillary the front runner in the first place? It wasn't her, it was THE MEDIA. The Media is no longer the unbiased, news hunting/reporting entity that the people could look to for fair reporting and for taking to task the big bad guy? They are, now, all about ratings, all pundits and opinion makers intent on swaying as many as they can to their personal view and the view of the station owners and becoming well-known personalities in their own right. There are few facts reported and no delving into real issues and telling ALL sides, like it is.

I still haven't seen the inspirational story about the 'first viable women candidate written or spoken of anywhere. Where are all the women commentators? Where are all the women?

People are choosing along racial lines for Barack and that is not addressed in either a positive or negative light anywhere in the media. WHY NOT? They are too P.C. and scared to offend someone by asking it! Grow a spine media!

Why aren't the women that are coming together for Hillary in the news at all?

WOMEN COULD MAKE OR BREAK ANY CANDIDATE IF WE STAND TOGETHER!

WHERE IS OUR VOICE?

Why is no one even curious that this story isn't being told??!! Don't all of you women out there feel as frustrated and impotent in the absolute silencing of our collective voices?

The only woman out there who has a voice has chosen race over womanhood. That is her absolute prerogative. But that leaves a huge, huge void for the rest of us. Where are all the women commentators who want to see a woman in the most powerful job in the world? Where are the women who want to be able to tell the truth when they tell their daughters really can grow up to be President? Why is no one talking about the blatant anti-woman sentiment out there in the media?

HILLARY USE YOUR WOMANHOOD!! IT IS YOUR BEST DEFENSE!

And to the issues. B.O. says he was against the war, but he didn't have to vote for it because he wasn't in the senate. He probably would have voted present or not at all as witnessed by his no-vote on the resolution naming the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. He DID NOT VOTE but he dares to criticize Hillary's vote.

B.O. claims to be a 'uniter' -just like Bush- did when he was running, but who did Barack unite when he was in the senate these past two years? No one!!

He claims not to be the 'usual suspect' politician, but he sure owes Rezko (sp?) a big favor for giving him a super deal on half a lot to enlarge his mansion grounds.Ask yourself--how many of your close, personal friends would take a large monetary loss on a piece of property for you without some form of payback? That is just 'More of the Same' as far as I can see. And just look how many other favors he will owe if he should make it into office from all those who are jumping on the 'favor' band wagon!

As to Hillary, she is an absolute inspiration! How a women who is constantly barraged, year after year, by criticism-some professionally, but most that is on such a personal level--that she comes back so strongly, and stays on message, and is still able to talk detailed and smart policy time and again is astounding. It is more than any man can or has ever had to take from the media.

Her critics are unrelenting and unforgiving and can only be referred to as 'they' because 'they' are ashamed to identify themselves any other way. But 'they' are constantly telling her what is acceptable behavior for her as a candidate. Don't be too manly, women won't like it. Don't be too womanly and don't cry, you'll look weak. Don't raise your voice you sound shrill. You are fat. Too short. 'they' pick on her daughter. 'they' call her 'the Clintons' instead of Hillary Clinton, or Senator Clinton, while they practically drool on O.B.

Well I for one am tired of it. I will not watch it anymore-or even in the future when elections are over. I will give $$ to Clinton! I will vote for Clinton! I will beg my friends and family to vote for Hillary Clinton!

I will not vote for Obama. He has offended me with his-'Hillary's supporters will all vote for me, but my supporters will not support her' comment.

B.O. and his wife have offended me with the arrogant, 'vote for us now or you won't get a second chance comment.'

WOMEN AND MEN WHO WANT TO BETTER OUR ECONOMY, OUR POLICY, OUR REPUTATION IN THE WORLD AND OUR COUNTRY--GET OUT AND VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON!

To not agree with or say Barack is not as qualified a candidate as Hillary is at least a reasonable point of discussion.

To say he has no experience, is only an eloquent speaker or is a joke as a candidate is both ignorant and childish.

If you find yourself in the latter camp, do yourself and your country a favor and at least understand the man based on your own research. Read one of his books, his detailed plans on his website or go see him in person. Then, if you still disagree with him, at least you will be able to do it from a personally informed position.

God, somebody finally said it!

Obama reminds me of boyfriend that always says exactly what a girl wants to hear... and then she finds that he's unable to "deliver" after giving herself to him.

That's a real let down...