by Mark Silva
"Whatever happens, I will be fine,'' said Sen. Hillary Clinton, refusing to confront the question of a possibility of losing her bid for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.
Sen. Barack Obama, asked about his lack of experience, relative to the political career of Clinton, likened himself to an Internet startup.
"You know -- there are a lot of companies that have been around longer than Google,'' Obama told CBS News' 60 Minutes in interviews aired last night. "But Google's peformiing.''
For more on the debate between the political equivalents of IBM and Google, see a few excerpts from last night's interviews with Obama and Clinton, courtesy of CBS News:
CBS' STEVE KROFT, with Obama:
"I know you'd like to consider yourself the underdog. But-- by the time we're finished with the next round--it's possible, maybe even likely, that you'll have more delegates than-- than Senator Clinton. Or that you will have won more states. And that you will have raised more money. And have more money on hand. So explain to me how you're an underdog.
BARACK OBAMA:
Well-- she-- continues to have enormous name recognition. I think there's a lot of affection for-- the Clinton brand among democrats. And, you know, she still has more institutional support. -- so, you know, part of what we have to do is-- you know, score a convincing-- knock out. You know, we're-- we're like the-- the challenger and-- and she's like the champ. And, you know, you don't win on points.
STEVE KROFT:
I mean, one of the problems that you have, still, is the question of experience. And you've done a lot of remarkable things in your life. But when you sit down and you look at the résumé -- there's no executive experience. And-- and, in fact, correct if I'm wrong, the only thing that you've actually run was the-- the Harvard Law Review. (LAUGHTER)
BARACK OBAMA:
Well I've run my Senate office. And I've run this campaign. One of the interesting things about this experience argument is-- that-- it's often posed as just a function of longevity. You know, I've been here longer. Well, you know-- there are a lot of companies that have been around longer than Google.
But Google's performing.
AND CBS' KATIE COURIC WITH CLINTON::
KATIE COURIC:
Barack Obama's candidacy has undeniably gained momentum over the recent-- months. Have you grappled with the idea, Senator Clinton, that it could be him and not you?
HILLARY CLINTON:
Well, when you're in the heat of this-- intense experience-- the only way I know how to do it is to believe with all my heart that I'm going to be successful. That's what I get up every day and tell myself. That's what I believe. That's what I think is going to happen. So I don't-- I don't entertain the other option...
KATIE COURIC:
You have to, once in a while, think that. No?
HILLARY CLINTON:
No—Katie
HILLARY CLINTON:
You can't think like that. You have to believe you're going to win...
KATIE COURIC:
Someone told me your nickname in school was Miss Frigidaire. Is that true?
HILLARY CLINTON:
Only with some boys. (laugh)
KATIE COURIC:
I don’t know if I wanna hear the back story on that.
HILLARY CLINTON:
Yeah, well you wouldn’t know the boys either. (laugh)...
KATIE COURIC:
What do you see yourself doing if this doesn't work out?
HILLARY CLINTON:
Well, I'll be a senator from New York. Which is a great job. I love New York.
KATIE COURIC:
So you'd be fine with that?
HILLARY CLINTON:
Absolutely.... I have a blessed life. So whatever happens, I will be fine.''





Comments
I felt that Senator Obama did an excellent job last night. He is the 'real deal'. He represents our future, not our past.
With all due respect, the Clintons had their turn. They did a good job. But we need to move forward, not backwards. Just the thought that only 2 families could control the USA for 35 yrs. or more is absurd. Democracy or Di-archy?
The other major difference that matters to me is the fundraising that they've done. Senator Obama has been funded by 'us'. Senator Clinton is still taking money from lobbyists and specaial interest groups. Therefore, the only people that Obama will have to listen to is 'us'.
I'm voting for Obama!
Posted by: Gail Newtson | February 11, 2008 7:47 AM
This was a love fest -- lots of softball questions, a complete waste of air time. This is journalism?
For example, Steve Croft repeated Obama's campaign spiel about supposedly not accepting money from Federal lobbyists, but neglected to ask Obama why he accepts the money from those same Lobbyists' spouses, business associates and friends.
Posted by: MJ | February 11, 2008 8:10 AM
Bottom Line:
It looks like you got some vote fraud hankypanky, and selling of votes going on in the democratic caucuses. Obama seems to be doing disproportionately well in the caucuses where it is easier to commit vote fraud, and sell votes. Obama has not been doing as well in the non caucus primary's where you can't cheat the vote as easily.
I smell a pole cat. I smell the Karl Rove vote fraud machine at work. This looks like past presidential elections where most voters leaving the poles said they voted for the other guy. But Bush still won. No wonder Obama thinks the republicans have some good ideas. Apparently a lot of republicans are voting for Obama in the democratic caucuses.
The insurance companies, and medical industry that have been ripping you off, and killing you are determined to keep you, the American people from having good universal health care. So it seems they are supporting Obama. Along with the republican vote fraud machine.
This looks like a great story for a team of aggressive investigative reporters. Or maybe some good documentary film makers like Michael Moore, or Oliver Stone.
If I were the Clinton's, I would focus like a laser bean on what has been going on in the democratic caucuses. No wonder the Republicans like Obama so much. Looks like he's their man in the democratic caucuses.
I'm absolutely convinced now that Hillary Clinton is your best choice for good universal health care coverage. And HR 676 (Medicare For All). "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See: http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm
“HR 676:
For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills.”
They really think you are all stupid, inattentive cash cows... It may be time to bring back Bad Bill.
Posted by: jacksmith | February 11, 2008 8:22 AM
Mark,
"...Google's peformiing.''
Is that really a quote? Just how did Obama pronounce that word?
PJ
Posted by: PJ Hansen | February 11, 2008 8:23 AM
To Democrats,
Please stop ignoring the considerable constitutional issues that come along with another Clinton presidency. White it is not impermissible under the constitution for a former president to be a presidential spouse in the White House, it was NOT contemplated by the framers of the Constitution. I believe the framers of our Constitution would be very troubled by the prospect of a free wheeling "co-president" in the person of Bill Clinton in the White House - an certainly high level policy maker whose authority and powers are not circumscribed by law. Regardless of your political views, please consider that this WAS NOT FORESEEN, and is NOT ADEQUATELY COVERED BY LAW. Bill Clinton, as first spouse, would be free to cloak himself under the veil of executive privilege WITHOUT PROPER LEGAL OVERSIGHT or limitations on his activities. If you thought Cheney abused presidental powers, you aint seen nothin. By electing Clinton, you would be placing Bill Clinton right in the middle of a HUGE legal black hole. This is uncharted territory in a legal sense, and it is a cause for concern for anyone that cares about the Constitution.
Posted by: Eddie | February 11, 2008 9:18 AM
Addressing comments posted by jacksmith, supra. Please get your facts straight before you get up on your platform. Your bias is transparent. I will vote Republican, but if I were OTHER than the Obamas (who have too much class and gentility) I would "focus like a laser beam" on people like you who continue to spew misinformation on the internet
Posted by: linda | February 11, 2008 9:45 AM
This time is a time made for American history, both Hilary and Obama, has set the stage to create that History. what the American public has to do is to, elect some one who would be able to carried this mommoth job on their shoulders and do so with out any hatred, and holds no animosity for the leaders in the world.
As a black man, I am thrill to see Obama taking on a roll which many a black man tried before and fail. Obama has given hope to many of our race, America has given hope to many of this race, but let us be mindful of what we do, who we elect, and what we come to expect when results goes our way.
No one Black man or Women elected as President going to change America or the World overnight. Good sensible politics, doplomacy, and and being able to get the results of what you do for your country is what counts.There really isn't much between the two candidates, but I beleived this time around age, experiece (not necessary in politics) play a bigger part, and Hilary is my choice. Hope America make the right choice when the time arise. Hilary, you must stay your course, and speak about the issues that matters.
A fun,
wifill
Posted by: Winston Ifill | February 11, 2008 10:00 AM
I thought that Katie Couric's questions to Clinton were ridiculous and insulting. It wasn't news she was after - it was all silly personal questions about her daily regime, her father, her reputation in high school. Those are not the things I care about in my president.
Obama's interview was more serious and let him look presidential. Clinton's interview questions were all giggly fluff and it made her look silly.
I think it was very unfair.
Posted by: lisa | February 11, 2008 10:32 AM
These are interesting, but they still don't get at the differences between the two candidates. This article lists, point-by-point, the votes where Obama and Clinton differed in the senate: http://politicalmaelstrom.blogspot.com/2008/02/superdelegates-give-hillary-lead-on.html
Posted by: Jesse | February 11, 2008 11:42 AM
I'd like to know if either of them actually mean it when they keep saying "on day one this" and "on day one that..." There's actually a lot of other people wondering same thing - i saw instapundit linked to a sight called ondayone.org thats run by the UN where everyone is talking about it.
Posted by: paul k | February 11, 2008 11:57 AM
Hillary Supporters, please read:
Former Gov. Jim Edgar, a Republican stalwart in Illinois, says he likes Democrat Barack Obama. "I think the world of him, and I think he's done a great job, but I have to tell you, I'm for Sen. Clinton (as the Democratic nominee) because I'm a Republican," Edgar said today, pausing for laughter at a Springfield forum sponsored by the University of Illinois. "I believe our best chance in the fall is to run against Sen. Clinton. There is nobody who will unite the Republican Party more in November than Sen. Clinton." -- Chicago Tribune 2/8/08
Folks, let's think about this. Hillary cannot beat McCain. We must wake up before it's too late. I think we all want to beat the Republicans this fall. We have tried TWICE in this decade and have failed! We must be realistic about our votes.
Support Barack Obama -- he is our last chance to beat the Republicans this fall. Just picture the stark contrasts he presents while he's standing next to McCain during a debate: Young v. Old; Washington insider v. newcomer; the past v. the future; the 21st century v. 18th century; tied to Bush's failed policies v. objected to Bush's policies from the beginning. The contrasts are COMPELLING, you simply cannot deny that!
Not to mention, the RNC machine has not quite figured out how to beat Barack, whereas, they have the playbook on the Clintons. And they'll have even more once Bill gets "vetted" for the years since his presidency -- all of their family foundation dealings, the books written about them, the goings-on at his Harlem office, etc. (And do not kid yourself, the moment Hillary started using Bill as her advocate in the campaign, she injected him and all his baggage into this campaign. It will not go overlooked.)
Obama for President 2008!
Posted by: BrwnSknGurl | February 11, 2008 12:33 PM
Katie Couric made me want to regurgitate (throw up for CBS watchers). Oh, her tough questions to Shillerery: "What were you like in high school?" HIGH SCHOOL???? Who cares about high school! No questions as to why she won't release her health and finance records or her 8 years of "experience" in the WH. No question as to why she fired the top ranked Latina on her staff. No question as to how to handle Bill's philandering if she's pres.
No question about the illegal fund-raising. But they laughed together. Just the tough journalism for which 60 Minutes is noted. Bloooooooorppp!
Posted by: Chandra | February 11, 2008 12:56 PM
i sometimes hate to be so right - I mentioned that HilLIARy was searching for yet another gushing interview from Couric
24 hours before this Couric interview aired I wrote,
"HilLIARy is scared of Russert - she is scared as hell of Tim Russert because he is not intimidated by her and he will be just as hard on hilLIARy in the debate as he will be on Obama - HilLIARy cannot handle that - she wants a Katie Couric to gush gush gush - in HilLIARy's mind every reporter SHOULD gush simply over being allowed the priveledge of being in her queenly presence and therefore no reporter ever has ANY business asking her ANY tough questions EVER - to ever do so is in her husband's demented words automatically "a neocon hit job" from the "vast right wing conspiracy" (her words).
If someone on CNN or CBS had use the word "pimped" (which is now rarely used as a sexual term in the vernacular and everyone in the clinton media machine knows that), HilLIARy would have accepted the apology of the network after playing the sympathy card only a little, but with MSNBC, HilLIARy is so scared of russert she would love to have an EXCUSE to avoid him.
HilLIARy - scared of hard questions
scared of russert
overplays the sympathy card at every possible turn
hardly a leader by any description"
could couric possibly gush anymore ? IMPOSSIBLE
HilLIARy = NOT A LEADER OF ANYONE BUT SHEEP
Posted by: Anonymous | February 11, 2008 1:16 PM
This just emphasizes the need for more debates. Let the people hear what they really think. I just heard another clip of Obama stumping in MD. He has one speech the same old speech he gave a month ago. ONE TRICK PONY! HE SHOULD BE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD?? I THINK NOT!!
Posted by: Rick B | February 11, 2008 1:18 PM
"CBS CORPORATE CEO SPEAK"
PUBLIC INTEGRITY SECTION OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T OWN US, OR TELL US WHO WE CAN TALK TOO, WHEN WE CAN AIR TO WHOM WE'VE TALKED TOO.
CHENEY DOES, KARL ROVE DOES, AND GEORGE BUSH DOES.
BUT NOT A DEMOCRAT SEEKING JOHN MCCAIN'S NEXT "SUPREME COURT" APPOINTEE TO THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES.
SOMETHING ARE ABOUT THE "DOG AND PONY" SHOW.
YA'LL COME BACK NOW! HE HAW.
Posted by: Roger Morris | February 11, 2008 1:52 PM
I'm a Obama supporter, but I have get to say that Senator Clinton was short-changed by the insipid questions from Katie Couric! In the interest of fairness, "60 Minutes" should send Steve Kroft to interview her next week, and Ms. Couric to interview Senator Obama.
Posted by: Joseph | February 11, 2008 1:57 PM
Here's a story the Clintonites don't want you to see. Add it to the lonnnng list of questions Katie Couric DIDN'T ask during the "interview."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html
Posted by: Walter | February 11, 2008 2:16 PM
obama needs to stops "YOU KNOW" in his interviews. it is a verbal crutch, like "eh", "mm". improve on 1-1 interviews.
Posted by: Weiss | February 11, 2008 3:14 PM
I feel compelled to address the comments about Katie Couric's interview with HIllary. Although the questions were more "fluff" than substantive, I think it was a smart move for Katie. In her previous interviews, e.g., ten questions, Hillary walked all over the interview, stumping herself and carrying on about what she would do in the White HOuse ---and seldom answered Katie's questions directly. I thin Katie wasn't gling to give Hillary the chance to use the interview as a free commercial a second time, Touche!
Posted by: lori | February 11, 2008 4:02 PM
correcting my typo's! the last sentence in my above blog should have said, "I think Katie wasn't going to give Hillary the chance (again) to use the interview as a free commercial a second time."
Sorry about my typing!
Posted by: lori | February 11, 2008 4:13 PM
ANONYMOUS,
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!
HILLARY IS SURELY SCARED OF TIM RUSSERT B/C HE ASKS REAL QUESTIONS AND DOES NOT GIVE INTO HER!!!!
Posted by: ANONYMOUS | February 11, 2008 6:16 PM
you guys don't get it - haven't you watched the clintons for the past 20 years ????
in both Couric interviews, HilLIARy got what HilLIARy wanted - hanging curve balls !!!!!!
go ahead and call me a sexist because I use a sports metaphor - that is IF YOU think women can't understand sports
no body gets easier interviews than HilLIARy in the history of televised politics - HilLIARy plans and demands it
she even plants questions in the audience and pretends they were spontaneous
HilLIARy-ous
but Russert - that's someone HilLIARy IS afraid of because she can't control him and he will be just as tough on her as he will be on others
HilLIARy - NOT a leader
Posted by: tom | February 11, 2008 6:37 PM
for those who understand sports analogies - couric lobs slow hanging curve balls to HilLIARy in all of the interviews because HilLIARy can't handle a fast ball (many female politicians can, but HilLIARy cannot) - no one but HilLIARy gets the benefit of such easy interviews !!!!!! HilLIARy wants and needs and demands it to be that way
HilLIARy supplied the questions for both interviews - last time it was a set up for her commercial - remember it was all about "inevitability"
this time it was to make hilLIARy seem more sensitive and human than she is (the winning formula from NH where HilLIARy found her "voice")
in truth, the only time HilLIARy ever shows emotion is when she thinks about losing
and the lapdog, Katie Couric is brown-noser enough to let HilLIARy write her own script
imagine what it would be like if HilLIARy won - can anyone say 1984 ???
Posted by: tom | February 11, 2008 6:51 PM
It's funny how everyone memory gets so fuzzy when it comes to the Clintons. If you haven't seen Hillary the Movie, you need to...maybe it will "refresh' some old thoughts. I posted the full version on my site for your viewing pleasure.:)
http://smithfiles.com/2008/02/09/hillary-the-movie/
Rick Honcho
Posted by: Rick Honcho | February 12, 2008 11:07 PM