By Rick Pearson and Glenn Thrush
MILWAUKEE—Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton, already having trimmed her Wisconsin campaign schedule in advance of the state’s Tuesday primary, now finds the weather a further obstacle on her last full day of campaigning in the Badger State.
A planned trip to Green Bay was canceled early today as weather forecasters looked at rain and freezing rain turning to snow later as well as winter weather advisories and warnings covering the area from Madison southward.
Clinton’s campaign had originally planned four days in Wisconsin to try to challenge rival Barack Obama on the ever-so-crucial delegate count, but viewed the possibility of winning the state as an upset. But the campaign cancelled Tuesday, primary day, in the state and is now looking at leaving Monday with the possibility of heading to Texas or Ohio, where she needs victories in the two delegate rich states that hold primaries on March 4.
Clinton has been taking a hit locally for running a campaign from afar, using TV ads to criticize Obama in advance of her arrival in the state on Saturday. Clinton and Obama made separate appearances before a state Democratic fundraiser in Milwaukee last night and the greeting she received was markedly cooler than the one Obama got.
As for Sunday, the Clinton campaign is re-examining its plans for other stops. She is supposed to visit Wausau and Madison before returning to Milwaukee but aides say the weather—which would have made an easy excuse for them to exit the state—has thrown the schedule up in the air.
Obama’s campaign, also citing weather conditions, scrubbed an appearance in Kaukauna. But unlike Clinton, Obama has been a regular visitor to the state.
Still, Clinton’s campaign is going after Obama, contending he has broken a pledge to use public financing for the general election campaign if the Republican nominee, presumptively Sen. John McCain of Arizona, did as well.
Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s communications director, said Obama “made a promise to the American people that he is not keeping.”
“That’s not change you can believe in,” Wolfson said.







Comments
Howard Wolfson needs to spend less time criticizing the Obama camp and more time looking for a job, since most likely Clinton will be replacing him when they lose the next three contests. If we want to talk about keeping promises, let's start with Clinton wanting to sue to reinstate the delegates to Florida and Michigan after Clinton initially pledged to uphold the DNC rules. These kind of political games (that Wolfson and Clinton are so good at) are the very reason Americans have felt so jaded about politics for the past several decades. Let's wake up from the political coma we've all been in and end the Clinton-Bush Dynasty. Clinton is right about one thing: this is her time... her time to exit the stage.
Posted by: Adam Moroschan | February 17, 2008 1:00 PM
Yes we can!
Posted by: Paul | February 17, 2008 1:11 PM
Clinton and McCain should first release their income tax records. Obama has done so. Three themes for 08 are TRANSPARENCY, HONESTY and AUTHENTICITY.
Posted by: Wayne D. | February 17, 2008 1:12 PM
Do you get the feeling the Clintons and their campaign surrogates are calling the American people stupid? I am part of the coalition that doesn't count.
Posted by: frank | February 17, 2008 1:14 PM
Howard Wolfson is about as believable as the impeached president, disbarred lawyer(for lying)billy.
if it says howy said it i don't believe it caused it already been run through hilly and billy. say soooooo looooong hilly
Posted by: jake | February 17, 2008 1:15 PM
I recently read in the Ny Times and Post. That the Ny count is currently under reveiw. They are saying that there is a chance that Obama my have carried the state, or at least may pick up delegates from the state. Has any one else heard about this?
Posted by: De | February 17, 2008 1:18 PM
Hillary needs to do more town hall meetings and visit the people in these states she's campaigning in more. That's hard given that she doesn't have much money. That's the REAL reason why she's criticizing Obama on campaign financing. She's focusing her money on Texas, rather than other states Wisconsin and Hawaii where she thinks she can win the most delegates. Good Luck on that. It didn't work for Rudy Gulliani, so why should it now?
Posted by: Gerald Shields | February 17, 2008 1:28 PM
The Clintons and McCain are a continuation of this same non-representative, government by special interests we have been suffering for years.
Want to make America a better place?
Practice Grass Roots Term Limit: Vote out an incumbent (life long office holders in both Parties).
Posted by: Anonymous | February 17, 2008 1:29 PM
The surrogates are out in force, vowing that the Clintonistas intend to steal this nomination by hook, crook or lawsuit. Seating Michigan and Florida after all parties have agreed they have been stripped of their delegates? Hey, no problem -- there's some arcane rule going back to the 1940s that Billary plans on rolling out. How about the fact that all the Superdelegates have super-obscene financial and political ties to the Kilnton machine? No problem with a bunch of old white guys stealing the nomination for Kamp Klinton on the floor of the convention against the will of the people, after all, them's the rules. Hillary as an agent of change? Not a prayer . . . the Clintons will do anything, say anything to steal the power away from Obama, even if it means destroying the party on convention floor in Denver if necessary -- and making the USA political process look like some Putin-esque, back-room banana republic.
Posted by: Dazed and amazed | February 17, 2008 1:29 PM
EXCITING TIMES !!
WHAT OBAMA MEANS BY "CHANGE" -- Google this - Obama Liberation Theology
Then Vote FOR "CHANGE"
Obama's public statements, his speeches, even his "present" votes in the Illinois legislature leave one dangerously unsure of his true intentions.
Whatever Obama's concrete plans are, they ought to aligned with his political mentor, Saul Alinsky, and his spiritual mentor and liberation theology specialist, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
In the absence of any genuine explanations from candidate Obama himself, the change of which he speaks reasonably may be inferred to be quite antithetical to anything even remotely resembling American patriotism.
And that is a legitimate concern for every American voter.
Posted by: ChangeWhat | February 17, 2008 1:30 PM
I find Wolfson's comment stupefying since, while I certainly hope he will be, Obama is not yet the Democratic nominee and has clearly said he will address that issue if and when he is. Furthermore, it is just this sort of negative and untrue attack posture that has made me decide that if Hillary is the nominee,I will sit out this election for the first time in my thirty years as a voting Democrat. I have not missed one election in all those years which makes me a super, super,Democrat, just the kind Hillary Clinton has taken for granted as she has voted time and time again for Bush proposal.Hillary has been totally tone deaf to the anguish Americans have experienced over the politics as usual degradation, which clearly is the "experience" that she feels gives her an edge.Honesty and authenticity and a large dose of character would help her campaign immeasurably.
Posted by: Chris Goodacre | February 17, 2008 1:32 PM
I agree with the above comment. Clinton and Wolfson can hardly talk when keeping promises is concerned. She, and her campaign are just talking cheap shots in order to try to revive her campaign that she know she is losing.
Vote Obama 2008! Yes we can!
Posted by: max Bryson | February 17, 2008 1:32 PM
taking public funds to promote the election is a non-issue.
Obama is out to win.... and his war-chest is larger than the Republicans.
Of course he'll use it.. and easily say that his public want him to be heard.
(and using McCain's own argument, will site that he's not using tax-payers' money).
Did he break a "promise"?
Maybe, or maybe not...does it matter? No. (and given the Republican money situation, who's going to hear about it anyway? And for those that do, who's going to care? No one!
Barack is out to win!
(and win he will)
Posted by: kevin larmee | February 17, 2008 1:33 PM
Obama has to exclude all superdelegates and all the big state primaries to win.
Much of his caucus support has come from independents who intend to vote for McCain anyway during the general election.
Posted by: hhkeller | February 17, 2008 1:35 PM
Obama uses the exact same style of "old politics" as Clinton. The basis of his argument is that he is morally superior. This is essentially a negative campaign by Obama. "She is not as honest as me". This is different and "new"??
His good looks are the key to his success.
How is his message any different than George W. Bushes? "I will bring change", "I will change the old style politics". A pretty front man with the right family background, Obama is the stalking horse of the elite liberal wing of the Dem party that wants to take back power, and has always hated the pragmatic and effective Clintons.
Posted by: johnL | February 17, 2008 1:41 PM
Adam Moroschan,
wake up buddy, get real for your real job. you need to find a real job for yourself. this is a real president campaign.
we pick a real smart and great one for big job.
good luck!
Posted by: john ly | February 17, 2008 1:42 PM
Bravo Adam Moroschan I could not have articulated a comment more precisely than you.
Obama08
Posted by: doug few | February 17, 2008 1:42 PM
HRC Presidential Campaign is in a sad state of affairs. It appears to me and others that she hasn't done her homework. Grassroots organizing just doesn't seem to be in place. She represents Same Old-Same Old. What everyone is looking for is NEW-CHANGE. Last year's model won't sell in this display window.
Posted by: Dennis Trollope | February 17, 2008 1:44 PM
Au Contraire ....folks ... more people need to go after B.O. .. instead of entrusting a country with two wars, on the brink of economic collapse , about to encounter a cold war with China and Russia ; to a NEOPHYTE with an incredibly naive ;untried and untested persona .. not to mention he doesnt like to have to answer questions and his wife said of Hillary "if you cant run your own house how can you run the white house" while she herself married a man with a drug history..what the HELL are we thinking??? .. if anyone is that is
I for one pass on the kool aid.. and I fervently hope more people do before it is too late WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ECONOMY THE WAR AND THE HEALTH CARE and get someone who can do the job and won't be making mistakes at our expense...
Posted by: Swannie | February 17, 2008 1:45 PM
Let us not forget how General Winter defeated the armies of Napoleon. May the sharp sting of falling ice turn back the pro-war aristocrat and all of her overly white lineage.
Posted by: Jay | February 17, 2008 1:46 PM
Senator Obama has consistently stated that once nominated he will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee over public financing.
Posted by: Colin | February 17, 2008 1:47 PM
I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW FECAL WE HAVE BECOME, AS A NATION -WE DO NOT SEEM TO KNOW WHAT-THE-HELL WE WANT!!
I read with utter disgust, people, like Pat Buchanan and other talk-heads in the Beltway and within the Democratic Party establishment, who lament how ugly and nasty the Democratic Party nomination fight would be, if neither Sen. Obama, or Hillary Clinton wins enough delegates, to outrightly win the nomination before the Party Convention this summer. These very talking-heads are also the very elements now dishing out unsolicited campaign strategies, as to how Hillary Clinton ought to conduct her campaign in the remaining primaries and caucuses, in order to win.
One would think that, if these talk-head are not really, desirious of a nasty nomination convention (as they purport), they ought to encourage, voters and delegates to rally around the candidate who is already in the lead -Sen. Obama, to enable him win outrightly and prevent a "nasty" nomination convention. That is a sure way to avoid a nasty convention. Instead, all the campaign strategists and their wizards have come out of every where, and are not dishing out campaign strategies and advice to the Hillary Clinton campaign. It almost appears, they did not expect and/or do not expect Sen. Obama to have done as well, and even, win the nomination.
The best way to avoid the nasty Democratic Party nomination convention this summer, is for delegates (including, the much vaunted "superdelegates) to start rallying around the candidate who is already in the lead this far into the nomination.
DELEGATES, START SWITCHING TO SEN. OBAMA!
VOTERS IN TEXAS, WISCONSIN, OHIO, PA, HI, RIN AND REMAINING PRIMARIES AND CAUCUSES: START VOTING EN MASSE FOR THE LEADING CANDIDATE, SEN. OBAMA, TO PREVENT A NASTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOMINATION CONVENTION.
This is what the Republican Party has done.
As for the likes of John Edwards, Joseph Biden, Christopher Dodd, Kucinic, Bill Richardsons, other former Democratic Party Presidential candidadtes, including, Hillary Clinton, and of course, Vice President Al Gore: your seating on the fence at this point in the nomination process, smarks of cowardice, and is potentially, self-serving, and a prescription for the nasty nomination convention, that some of you, claim, would not be good for the Democratic Party, going into the general election. You need to rethink your position and stop playing this stupid political game, where you are stratling all the possible scenarios. If you wait any longer, and not commit to either candidate, you are, in essence, making the nasty nomination convention, inevitable, this summer. If it happens, your party and the nation should hold you people responsible. So, what: you come out and defy the Clintons, and declare for Sen. Obama? The heavens will not fall! Not taking a position on the two candidates now, is utterly COWARDLY, and I want everyone of you people to know it. You call yourselves "leaders", well, true leadership calls for taking principled positions and making principled, tough, and at times, positions that some of your friends and admorers may not agree with. Most of all, SEARING ON THE FENCE, is not a makr of a true leader. True leadership entails taking a position on difficult issues, and evasiveness -what most of you have done so far in this nomination process, is not true leadership.
I hope, from the foregoing, you can infer, the reason, why, I think, we Americans, at times, do not seem to know what-the-hell we want.
Posted by: Ignatius Anyanwu | February 17, 2008 1:49 PM
"Howard Wolfson, Clinton’s communications director, said Obama “made a promise to the American people that he is not keeping.”
Actually, Obama already defended this, stating that he did not make any promise. All he did was inquire to see if McCain would be interested in such a pact.
This is just the Clinton attack machine with their false statements again.
Posted by: Darrell | February 17, 2008 1:49 PM
I like Senator Clinton and will vote for her in the general election if she is the nominee.
That said.
Joining McCain in an attack against Senator Obama isn't the way to coalesce support for her campaign.
!GOBAMA!
Posted by: Doug Zook | February 17, 2008 1:52 PM
clinton is super,and much better then obama
Posted by: ronald | February 17, 2008 1:54 PM
I agree with Adam. And I don't know why the Clinton Campaign can't focus on their current demands- ie winning more delegates in the upcoming primaries- instead of continuing to put their foot in their mouths! Let's not get started with money here folks. What about Peter Paul- to mention one of MANY!? Why is it whenever the Clintons come under the spotlight about illegal campaign donations- they simply say they don't know that individual and thus are excused from any wrong doing- when there is plenty of evidence that shows a long standing relationship between donor and Clintons!??! And as a Campaign advisor why would you even go there about the Obama public financing? It shows that you are even entertaining the idea of the other candidate's nomination over your very own, not to mention it looks petty and like a last ditch effort. This is especially arrogant considering the Clinton's have kept tax returns and their years in the White house under lock and key until 2012! There is no point- pointing fingers when at the end of the day you will just be pointing a finger back at yourself! I watched the exchange between David and Howard on the NEWS HOUR on PBS and then this morning on Face the Nation, and frankly its embarrassing to watch Howard act like a juvenile little kid who will do ANYTHING to not be thrown out of the next kick ball game at recess. So Clinton Campaign, show the voters that you actually care about their needs, rise above the pettiness and don't write off the caucuses and any other primary in order to focus on this big states. Actually show up to a state whose primary is NEXT and try to speak the truth and focus on your own policies instead of on another debate and smear campaigns. ENOUGH.
Posted by: Abigail Swartz | February 17, 2008 1:57 PM
What a bias coverage. Obama is canceling bunch of appearances in Wisconsin due to the weather too, but for some reason it didn’t make to headline. What to expect from Baltimoresun?
Posted by: Viki | February 17, 2008 2:01 PM
What a bias coverage. Obama is canceling bunch of appearances in Wisconsin due to the weather too, but for some reason it didn’t make to headline. What to expect from Baltimoresun?
Posted by: Viki | February 17, 2008 2:01 PM
This whole negative smear by the Clintons would definitely backfire. I would have assumed she had learnt her lesson. Why does she not talk about policy issues rather than very trivial "kitchen table" issues. A vote for Hillary is a vote for the dark ages. This woman is childish and querrelsome when she is losing. We can already predict the type of "petty presidency" that awaits the Americans should she win the election. The Democrats should start getting used to a defeat by the Republicans if she is nominated.
Posted by: Eduboy Canada | February 17, 2008 2:02 PM
Obama will be the next President. Mark my words
Posted by: Anna | February 17, 2008 2:03 PM
The fact is that Obama has not gone back on his word. Howard Wolfson is just practicing dirty Republican tactics. He has said that 1. He is not the nominee as of yet, and that this is something that will have to be looked at. This is a fair response since the republican 527 groups are going to use their own personal ads to attack the democratic nominee. Obama can still accept public financing. This just shows how desperate the Clintons are.
Posted by: Z-Funk | February 17, 2008 2:04 PM
What will all of the Clintonistas do now that they have to get a real job? Clinton has lost the support of the insiders of the Democratic party most of whom act as if they still care because her husband, the reason why we're paying attention to her in the first place, put them in positions of power to begin. Obama is an interesting phenomenon. I heard him speak last fall and he responded to a question about his then lack of support among African-Americans by telling the questioner that the support would come once Blacks and others realized that he was a viable candidate. He was correct. Today everyone is concerned about the economy. By the fall the economy will have improved and something will happen (or Fox will invent it) to return the focus to National Security. Obama is going to have to pick a running mate with bona fides in that arena. The only person who has been in that position and has skin in the game, Jim Webb, is the logical choice for Vice-President.
If Obama doesn't pick correctly he'll never win the national election. McCain is too old and a bit too liberal for the Republican base. He needs to pick a young conservative: Romney. Then this race will be interesting. Obama/Webb, McCain Romney. Now that would be a dogfight.
Beltway Greg
Posted by: Beltway Greg | February 17, 2008 2:06 PM
illary's healthcare plan = FORCED DEDUCTIONS = TAX ON people according to their income.
Socialized medcine Canadian style low quality 2 years waiting period for simple precdure.
Posted by: theo | February 17, 2008 2:08 PM
once again sickening rhetoric from Clinton camp .. eew .. yikes ...
Posted by: Anonymous | February 17, 2008 2:09 PM
So true, so true.
Now is Mrs. Clinton's time! to go out of stage and join her so called husband on the shadow of shame!
Posted by: Julio Proano | February 17, 2008 2:10 PM
It'd be an idea to start the campaigns around late April, eliminating the voting in blizzards aspect that afflicts the northern half of the nation.
Posted by: dal | February 17, 2008 2:11 PM
Forget the voting public ! Let the SUPERDELEGATES DECIDE ! :) A MAJORITY of party hacks will decide between Billary and Obama. That's why they call it the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. The MAJORITY of hacks rule ! :) Those old fuddy-duddy Republicans, who don't have SUPERDELEGATES like the DEMOCRATIC Party does, just let the voters vote and decide who they want. How BORING and NEANDERTHAL can you be ? !
Posted by: Daniel P. From Long Island, N.Y. | February 17, 2008 2:11 PM
What is telling is that Clinton's campaign ran all those attack ads over Obama not agreeing to more than 20 debates. This was done when Hillary was nowhere to be seen. Her style of petty, destroy at all cost politics is from a bygone era. We're ready to not only move on, but to move ahead. Clinton is the one person still in the race who offers no hope of moving ahead, only looking back.
Posted by: Ronald | February 17, 2008 2:16 PM
Mrs. Clinton, good afternoon from Navarre, FL. I have an important suggestion!!!! I believe that people may be seeing you as a terrible wife. Maybe Americans are seeing you in this way because Mr. Clinton had to "find" other women. This is the way Americans thing, Right or wrong! Show yourself as the greatest wife in the world! I feel pretty sure this will help.
Posted by: Mr. Chris A. Rock | February 17, 2008 2:18 PM
Want to talk about what is right, what is fair, in the Dems race for the White House? Look at how the media doesn't waste a minute of air time to bash Mrs. Clinton. Have we seen any endorsement for Hillary like we have Obama? Obama talks about change in his campaign yet he has Ted Kennedy (do I need to remind anyone of Chappaqua )one of the oldest good old boys in Congress today? Has the media forgotten the other 3 Kennedy's that have endorced Mrs. Clinton? I got so tired of seeing the endorsement from good ole Teddy that I turned the tube off.
Posted by: Terri Cole | February 17, 2008 2:18 PM
And why is Clinton different than Obama? We know about her, but he's showing us about him. The first test he failed was running commercials in Florida before their election (oh, gosh he asked someone in SC if it was OK and he didn't think he was breaking the rules). Please! Hillary had the rally, AFTER the polls closed, she has been the only one accused of breaking the rules. Get real, visiting after the voting or commercials before the election? Which one broke the rules in spirit? Actually, both.
Now he is craw fishing about public financing for the general campaign. Looks like his word is as good as any other politician, he just makes it sound better. And thats more dangerous.
Posted by: Lynn | February 17, 2008 2:19 PM
Dear Hillary....get well soon!
WISCONSIN FOR OBAMA !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwNlaY8busw
Posted by: Rubiconski | February 17, 2008 2:26 PM
Howard Wolfson should takes his lecture to a crowd of people that want to hear a I can't believe lecture!
Posted by: Scott | February 17, 2008 2:29 PM
Right on, Adam Moroshcan !
Posted by: Joe H | February 17, 2008 2:33 PM
So the Clinton camp's reference to what Obama may or may not do in the general means she's conceding the nomination? NO? Well, if she doesn't want to send the message that she's the inevitable loser, she may want to steer clear of ANYTHING Obama has or hasn't said regarding his campaign when he's the Democratic nominee.
um...DUH.
Posted by: Karen, Ohio | February 17, 2008 2:34 PM
Adam your comment is right on. The desperation tactics of the Clinton camp continues. Do we want years more of this stuff? Heck no. Anybody but Clinton and any Republican. They do not get that this is the type of stuff people are sick of really sick of. I know I am. We are going to need consensus going forward and the Clintons have no idea how to build one.
Posted by: Yurdelite | February 17, 2008 2:42 PM
polls show Hillary down in Wisconsin. If she stays and gives it everything she's got and then loses, it may affect any momentum she hopes to gain in other states. I don't understand why the media is giving her such a hard time about this. Oh wait, that's right, they always have given her a hard way to go.
Posted by: insight | February 17, 2008 2:48 PM
Obama to take public financing for general election!
That's a change I can believe in. He may be an electrifying candidate, but I never believed that he was a saint. After all, promises by politicians during election/campaign are meant to be broken. History is replete with such examples.
Posted by: Gullu | February 17, 2008 2:51 PM
Obama supporters, the nation needs specifics, the nation does not need another President like Bush, that will sell the media a phony campaign based on hope and unity.
Obama still has not been able to communicate how his hope and unity message has translated into action during these last 20 years.
Wisconsin needs a President that will help solve the nation problems. We don't need another Bush like President that lacks substance and specifics and that goes to the Campaign trail to tell the audience go to my website to see a plan put together by my advisors.
Last time we elected a President based on charisma alone and a phony, well thought out Campaign we got in big, big problems.
Wisconsin deserves better!
Posted by: Maria | February 17, 2008 2:57 PM
America media likes to manipulate people. It is so sad. Go Hilary
Posted by: Victor | February 17, 2008 3:25 PM
Joining McCain in an attack against Senator Obama isn't the way to coalesce support for her campaign.
!GOBAMA!
Posted by: Doug Zook | February 17, 2008 1:52 PM
Doug Z,
Old man McCain is scared to death of Obama, all Obama needs to do is remind that dumb old man of the things he has flip-flopped on recently, torture etc.
Obama never pledged and he should not now.
Barack should say that he needs to keep his options open to defend against groups like Freedom's Watch that are raising a 1/4 billion dollars to swiftboat the Democratic nominee for John McCrazy.
Obama's campaign donors are just regular folk giving their tens and twenties to the Obama campaign, I think Obama should reinforce that frame and tell McCain that his campaign is being financed by the public.
We the people will be happy to fund the Democratic offense and defense and Yosemite McCain and the Republic Party cheerleaders know this all to well...
Posted by: John E | February 17, 2008 3:29 PM
I think Clinton's behavior goes way past childish and petty... She is a take-no-prisoners, walk-over-your-grandmother, whatever-it-takes-to-win monster just like Richard Nixon. When I look at her, that's what I see: Nixon in drag. She's the scariest thing to hit American politics since Tricky Dickie!
Posted by: Peggy O | February 17, 2008 3:30 PM
So much for "walking the walk and not talking the talk". I want a doer and not a talker!!!! "The New York senator, listed at No. 9, secured about $342 million last year in project funding. Clinton's rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, tallied $91 million in earmarks for his home state of Illinois." http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-usear0215,0,4009275.story Go check it out for yourself...NY is going to profit off of all of her hard work, if she can do this for NY what do you think she would do for our country....YES EXPERIENCE COUNTS!!!! ***HILLARY 2008****
Posted by: beth | February 17, 2008 3:41 PM
Icy conditions inside Shrillary's planned stop cause the candidate to aim her Caravan of Despair towards Ohio.
Shrillary announces new stop at Universiy of Cinncinnati on Monday!
School officials plead for at least 25 students to attend rally!
Go back to New York Shrillary!
Posted by: remus | February 17, 2008 3:43 PM
Come on Theo. I am so sick of the Republican talking points on "socialized healthcare" and how horrible it would be if we had the system that Canada or France has. Even though they both now have far healthier populations than the US and now have longer life expectancies than the US. Do you care to explain that? And this ridiculous talking point of having to wait in line (2 years??) for simple procedures in Canada?? Are you kidding me?? Have you ever seen the Canadian system first hand? Have you ever interviewed one single Canadian?? It stinks of the same blatant lying we got about the "weapons of mass deception" in Iraq.
You need a new talking point as the American people are finally thinking for themselves and not falling for the continual blatant lies. Either Hillary's or Obama's healthcare plan will be a HUGE step in the right direction.
Posted by: E. Nelson | February 17, 2008 3:47 PM
Bo seems to be paying off the superdelegates at a greater degree than HRC.
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Seeking Superdelegates
And while it would be unseemly for the candidates to hand out thousands of dollars to primary voters, or to the delegates pledged to represent the will of those voters, elected officials who are superdelegates have received at least $904,200 from Obama and Clinton in the form of campaign contributions over the last three years, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.
Obama, who narrowly leads in the count of pledged, "non-super" delegates, has doled out more than $698,200 to superdelegates from his political action committee, Hope Fund, or campaign committee since 2005. Of the 82 elected officials who had announced as of Feb. 12 that their superdelegate votes would go to the Illinois senator, 35, or 43 percent of this group, have received campaign contributions from him in the 2006 or 2008 election cycles, totaling $232,200. In addition, Obama has been endorsed by 52 superdelegates who haven't held elected office recently and, therefore, didn't receive campaign contributions from him.
Clinton does not appear to have been as openhanded. Her PAC, HILLPAC, and campaign committee appear to have distributed $205,500 to superdelegates. Only 12 percent of her elected superdelegates, or 13 of 109 who have said they will back her, have received campaign contributions, totaling about $95,000 since 2005. An additional 128 unelected superdelegates support Clinton, according to a blog tracking superdelegates and their endorsements, 2008 Democratic Convention Watch.
Posted by: kmb08 | February 17, 2008 3:58 PM
5 reasons why Dems should avoid Hillary:
1. Hillary is one of the most divisive figures in modern history. That is a fact.
2. More than half the nation is against Hillary. That is a fact.
3. Hillary brings less independents to support the Democratic party. That is a fact.
4. Hillary had her chance in the Whitehouse and she FAILED in Healthcare. That is a fact.
5. In all her 35 years of cooked up experience, Americans have difficulty finding even one single achivement. That is a fact.
So why vote for a failed horse or a donkey? She has no instinct for what is right, because Clintons have no respect for moral values. America definitely deserves a better political leader for the 21st century. A time comes and a time goes. Clintons had their time. Its over. Turn the page folks. Hillary will be blunder for us in November.
Hillary and Bush
1. Clinton and Bush: Both were for the war in Iraq
2. Both were for invading Iran
3. Both cannot manage one's own campaign or the country
4. Both stubbornly refuse to accept their mistakes. Both argue that they are right no matter what happens.
5. Both squandered all the money and go into deficit.
Besides, if Hillary Clinton is so smart, how in the world did she squander away an inevitable lead that she possessed just three months ago, and HOW IN THE WORLD DID SHE END UP IN THE SITUATION SHE NOW FINDS HERSELF????
We should not want someone this inept in the Whitehouse! DANGEROUS!!!
Posted by: Wendy | February 17, 2008 3:59 PM
Support our President, support our troops.
Amen!
Posted by: willy | February 17, 2008 4:06 PM
Hillary == Walter Mondale. She is barely hanging on even in her own party with the help of old coalitions and party elders. Just like Mondale, Clinton would be a disastrous general-election candidate and would lose even in a year otherwise made to order for Democrats.
Posted by: MontanaLefty | February 17, 2008 4:07 PM
Swannie: "His wife said of Hillary "if you cant run your own house how can you run the white house" "
This is yet another example of Clinton followers extracting one sentence and trying to make it mean something completely different with no context. Michelle Obama was asked about the stresses on the family of a long campaign, and she talked about how, when Barack is travelling, she makes sure she does close-by events (this was early in the campaign) so she's home when the girls return from school to have a family dinner and help with homework and generally keep them on a normal schedule.
Anyone with small kids, try talking about your children and how you tried to keep things on an even keel during a crazy time, and then slip a reference to Bill Clinton's sexual proclivities in the middle. I sure can't. Yet another "okay, it didn't really mean that, but it is factually correct that she said that sentence even if in a different context!" as Mr. Clinton has become so fond of saying.
Posted by: dal | February 17, 2008 4:15 PM
I hear that people are saying that Obama does not have the experience. Clinton does. Hmmmm President Bush had the experience and look at where we are now. Is Hillary trying to win the election on the shirttails of her husband? I have read the speeches of both Obama and Clinton and I get tired of hearing Clinton saying things against Obama instead of what she wants to see done. If she did her homework on medical assistance like Canada she would see that people in Canada are not happy with it and people are coming here to get needed surgeries so why does she keep pushing the medical reform to be like Canada? She has said one thing and then another thing about the war. Now she is making a big stink about the MI delegate vote? I cannot believe what she is doing. America wake up and smell the coffee. Obama for President. all the way.
Posted by: Judi | February 17, 2008 4:31 PM
Wow. So now Hillary is taking her cue from John McCain's playbook?!? Weak weak weak!
OBAMA '08
Posted by: Gabe Small | February 17, 2008 4:35 PM
The bar and personal standard and conduct continue to get lower and lower for Hillary/Billary. She (they) keeps parading the same failed and flawed characters from Bill's last century adimistration: Lanny Davis, Harold Ickes and the like. We are more than tired of them and Clinton fatigue is becoming more alive and well as time goes on.
Hillary = Everything that is wrong with Washington and politics of today and yesterday.
Barack Obama = Everything that is right and needed for America and the future!
Posted by: Agnostic Democrat | February 17, 2008 4:40 PM
The bar and personal standard and conduct continue to get lower and lower for Hillary/Billary. She (they) keeps parading the same failed and flawed characters from Bill's last century administration: Lanny Davis, Harold Ickes and the like. We are more than tired of them and Clinton fatigue is becoming more alive and well as time goes on.
Hillary = Everything that is wrong with Washington and politics of today and yesterday.
Barack Obama = Everything that is right and needed for America and the future!
Posted by: Agnostic Democrat | February 17, 2008 4:42 PM
I saw both Hillary and Obama give their speeches on C-SPAN last night at the Wisconsin Democratic Convention,and what I saw was the same thing people from Georgia to California saw because I listened to the callers on C-SPAN live this morning.I didn't have to call in,several other's made the point I was going to make.Hillary had so much passion in her speech,she had solutions to the problems we all face at this crucial time in history.She spoke of her plan to boost the economy,end the mortgage crisis,build better schools,and create the opportunity for every man,woman,&child to have healthcare.She also talked about bringing our troops home SAFELY!!But the thing I really noticed,along with those from other states who called into C-SPAN,is that when she exited the stage she left with grace,& she spoke to the audience,shook their hands & waved & smiled to the people in the back.Yet when Obama exited the stage,he seemed angry.He didn't speak to anyone or smile & shake hands on his way out.He also messed up when he was reading his speech,he used a quote from JFK about "never fear to negotiate"but Obama said that quote came from former president John McCain!I guess Obama doesn't have his speech memorized yet.All he remembers to say is "yes we can",well here in ohio,where Hillary has been endorsed by our governor,and where she's leading Obama in the polls by double digits & he only has a delegate lead of 56,it's still possible for my girl to make a comeback.I am a 31 year old,well educated african american woman,and I will not be swayed by the media or the pundits,I think it is time we make history by showing that any job a man can do, a woman can do better!!I know Hillary will be a better president than her husband was.She is a better politician & she is more disciplined than Bill.I realize that change is just a word without actions to back it up,and it also amazed me that after Hillary said that she was the only candidate left who supports universal healthcare,then Obama came out and said now he has a plan for universal healthcare.I think Obama is an inspirational speaker,& in a few more years he will be ready to be president,but right now from what I have seen & heard from the candidates in the debates and on the campaign trail,Hillary is ready to lead this country in a new direction.Vote for a mama not Obama!!!
Posted by: marsha | February 17, 2008 4:44 PM
All these dreams of the first woman president means nothing if she can't beat Mccain. And I don't see anyway that she can. It is unfortunate because I think she would be a good president but the bottom line is she is unelectable. Poll after poll bear this out and still people keep their head in the sand pretending like this isn't so.
It is like voting for Nader in 2000. You may have agreed with him and wanted to really really believe in your heart that voting for him might mean something but let's face it, the Nader supporters clinched the Bush presidency. Sorry but the Geens and enviromentalists indirectly contributed to the worse period of destruction to our planet in modern day memory.
So the choice should not be about whether Obama or Hillary has more experience or whether we can parse some minute difference in their policies or even completely disregard the fact that neither Obama or Hillary would run this country in a complete vacuum without any help from good solid people around them. The debate should be about who we can elect that can beat Mccain in November. The best analogy that I can think of is arguing amongst ourselves about whether to run the ball into the end zone from the one yard line or throw a screen pass to win the game and taking a delay of game penalty, and subsequently losing the game.
Come on people this debate about experience, and speeches, and likeability, and ridiculously minor differences in policy is COMPLETELY mute!!!
We don't live in a dictatorship (despite what many feel is going on right now) in this country NOTHING gets done without bipartisan support. Please look up this word if you don't understand what it means as it will be CRITICAL in 2009 and beyond for the survival of our planet. I think we all know which candidate has a better chance of taking more independent votes and Republican votes and ultimately beating Mccain and cultivating a grassroots movement to bring in more democratic senators and representatives into Congress.
Posted by: E. Nelson | February 17, 2008 4:46 PM
In 1968, I took a nap after campaigning for Bobby K. in the Cal. Primary. And I woke up to a nightmare which has continued with but a few half-respites ever since, with George Bush the worst nightmare of all.
Bobby, John and Martin, “I have a dream!” Now the Bobby,John, Martin dream rings out again in Barack Obama.
But most Obama supporters on this blog don't sound much like that. Remember! We are the good guys and our Guy is THE Good Guy!
And, even if they aren't acting much like it, Hillary and Co. are not our enemies. We Dems must unite.
Obama will win! Yes WE can win!
But we need Hillary's people too. Obama's hand is out to everyone, so we should be the same, and return their bitterness with our love.
Posted by: David Irby | February 17, 2008 5:20 PM
Senator Obama has not yet been nominated as the Democratic nominee, but both Senators McCain and Clinton are accusing him of flip-flopping on taking public funds for the general campaign. If Senator Clinton's camp is going to play the flip-flopping card, she better be ready to defend her own fish-on-dry-land behavior!
1) First she was for Bush's Iraq policy, now she's against it.
2) On withdrawal of US soldiers from Iraq, as early as September 2007, she said it would take at least five years. Now, its one year.
3) Much has been said about Eliot Spitzer’s licenses-for-illegals plan. First she thought she was for it, but now she is against it - all in one night.
4) She has received much of her financing from special interest groups backed by big pharmaceuticals and HMOs. She touts universal health care. Whose side is she really on?
5) Under President Clinton, Hillary Clinton was pro-NAFTA: now she's not.
6) As a Democrat, Mrs. Clinton agreed to campaign and accept delegates based upon DNC rules. Now she's insisting that the DNC back down and break the rules.
Now, in the world that we mere mortals live in, we're permitted to take a side on an issue, then upon gathering more information or if circumstances alter, we're allowed to change our minds. Politicians who accuse others of flip-flopping are setting up a precarious place for all elected officials to perch. No one is perfect. The fear of being labeled a flip-flopper turns smart people into sick-in-the-mud idiots.
I would really like it if politicians would sign a pledge not to use the "flip flop" term anymore. It's unbecoming to both the accuser and the accusee.
Posted by: Vote On Paper | February 17, 2008 5:37 PM
Obama is all bun and no beef. Clinton is beef & bun-which is better for the country. In regards to Florida & Michigan it seems suspicious that Obama is against the rules when it comes to superdelegates where it was designed for them to make independent decisions...except when it comes to Florida & Michigan when he doesn't want them to have their say...seems convenient...ultimately these states must have their voices counted as they didn't vote for these "rules" to ban their votes. If there is a dispute...we must find for the people...The country will be better off voting their hearts & their heads and vote for Hillary.
Posted by: April Jensen | February 17, 2008 5:52 PM
Very nice post "Vote on Paper". I second the movement to not ever use the "flip-flopping" word again in politics. What ever happened to intelligence and problem solving in politics and reassessing a situation based on the current facts as they unfold.
Instead we get "stay the course" even if it is right off a cliff.
Posted by: E. Nelson | February 17, 2008 6:14 PM
Is good to begin this comment saying that I AM A REPUBLICAN which WILL NEVER VOTE FOR Mr. Mc Cain. SO, My family and I made the decision to go for Obama looking for change, and hoping that he can do it, we are tired of the BUSH, Clinton's, Bush, and The Clinton's again we can't let that happen. We see Barack as a new candidate which has many talents and the desire to bring this country together, with that said....WE ARE WITH OBAMA TO THE END !!! :o).....GO OBAMA AND PLEASE DON'T CHANGE YOUR SPEECHES, THAT IS THE KEY TO WIN AGAINST J.McCAIN....HE IS TOO OLD AND HIS CONSERVATIVES IDEAS WILL SINK HIM... YOU ARE THE BEST CANDIDATE OUT THERE AND YOU WILL BE THE BEST PRESIDENT FOR ALL AMERICANS.
Posted by: mattie | February 17, 2008 6:38 PM
McCain is attacking Barack so he can run against his buddy Hillary-who he has a better chance to beat come November. Expect John and Hillary and Bill to team up on Barack more. Same old hateful politics. OBAMA 08
Posted by: Sonny Carter | February 17, 2008 8:18 PM
McCain is attacking Barack so he can run against his buddy Hillary-who he has a better chance to beat come November. Expect John and Hillary and Bill to team up on Barack more. Same old hateful politics. OBAMA 08
Posted by: Sonny Carter | February 17, 2008 8:19 PM
Those of us with teenagers got a hilarious reminder of the Clinton scandals of the 1990s this weekend while watching the new movie, "Definitely, Maybe."
It takes Bill Clinton apart in a way that John McCain and the Republicans only wish they could.
It is a must see for all those who want to innoculate their teenagers from the impact of future "Bimbo" irruptions, fits of lying and other attractions sure to come our way with another Clinton presidency.
MARTIN EDWIN 'MICK' ANDERSEN
Posted by: Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen | February 17, 2008 11:22 PM
Hillary just does not get it. Lies, negative campaigning and personal attacks are what America is fed up with. Hillary you are getting BEAT fair and square.
Posted by: Joe America | February 18, 2008 12:29 AM
The end is near for Hillbill and the closer she gets the more venom and BS comes out.hopefully she looking for a nice comfortable rock to crawl under!!!
Posted by: petesb | February 18, 2008 11:14 PM