Hillary Clinton draws line in sand near Alamo

This is from today's NYTimes online, front page article on delegate strategy.

"Since there's no thread on this yet, I'll just post it here. It's from the new front page story on delegate count and strategy:

"Mr. Obama’s aides said they hoped to end the voting season with a delegate lead of more than 100, which they would seek to portray as a decisive affirmation by Democratic primary voters of Mr. Obama’s candidacy. Mrs. Clinton’s advisers said they were looking to bring the margin down significantly below 100 in hope of arguing that the result was too close for delegates to consider in deciding how to vote."

When the best case scenario coming from her own camp is to be losing by 80 delegates and ask the superdelegates to still throw it to her, it's time to gracefully pack it in instead.

Lines in the sand are good. They sweep away easily so you can draw a new line.

Obama's religious affiliation have surfaced with little impact so far. denied charges about his supposed Muslim upbringing are gradually giving way to more concrete allegations. The latest round involves his political intervention in Kenya, the home of his late father, where violence between ethnic and partisan factions has erupted in the wake of a disputed presidential election.As usual, the right-wing narrative melds half-truths and lies with facts to create a seamless indictment.Leading conservative blogs and publications charge Obama with recklessly aligning himself with opposition leader Raila Odinga of the Orange Democratic Movement. Followers of Odinga, a member of the minority Luo tribe, have perpetrated horrific atrocities against members of the Kikuyu tribe because incumbent president Mwai Kibaki and the nation's ruling elite are Kikuyu. One of the worst incidents occurred in the village of Eldoret, where dozens of Kikuyu Christians burned to death when they sought shelter in a church that was then set afire by their rampaging pursuers.
alleged Muslim plot to overthrow the Kibaki government, which is friendly to the United States and the West, and replace the secular constitution of Kenya with sharia law, creating a haven for al-Qaida -- which blew up the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi a decade ago and still operates there, according to American diplomats. During the Kenyan election, the Christian evangelical movement in Kenya circulated a "memorandum of understanding" allegedly signed by Odinga and a group of Muslim clerics that would commit his government to instituting Muslim strictures against pork and alcohol, setting up sharia courts and ending cooperation against terrorism with Western governments.
Denounced as a forgery by Odinga and Muslim authorities in Kenya, The point is to raise questions about Obama and his connections with Odinga -- who claims to be his cousin -- and to infiltrate those doubts into the mainstream media.Its true Obama, whose family is Luo, lent support to the opposition leader during a visit to Kenya two years ago -- and that they have maintained contact ever since. While that gaffe infuriated the Kibaki regime, it proved only that Obama lacked diplomatic expertise. During the current crisis in his homeland, he has tried to play a constructive role by taping radio announcements for the State Department that urge both sides to stop fighting and resolve their differences without violence.The Kenya tale portrays Obama a callow politician with dubious associations, who cannot be trusted with power. He will be subjected to the same ruthless treatment as the last Democratic nominee.

Line in the sand? Didn't everyone in the Alamo get massacred? Not exactly the metaphor I would be looking for to revive my campaign.

"We need a president on day one". Why does she keep saying that? In my recollection all presidents are ready on "day one". Most of these people who run for president have strong leadership skills, strong ego's, and the ability to delegate. Plus, you have your cabinet, past officials, present officials, and history of past situations to guide you. Whether Hillary, Obama, or McCain becomes president all of this and more would be available to them. So, what is Hillary talking about? Does she mean a Harvard, Constitutional Lawyer, who was president of the Harvard Law Review; State Senator, National Senator doesn't know how to lead or assume leadership? Excuse me, I think he's proving it in just about everyway possible. Hillary and Bill Clinton will now begin the "dirty" politics. They are going to "hit" Obama with low blows. As of yesterday she has said he stole her policy agenda. Next she will say he works for Resko; and that he was a small time drug dealer so he could pay his way through Harvard Law school, or that he secretly attends a Mosque. American Politics is becoming sickening. Do everything to win, say anything to win. This is Hillary. Hillary is not losing because of Obama; rather, she is losing votes because Americans do not want Bill Clinton to have 3 Terms and see that coniving grin on his face. Americans aren't stupid.

Billary Road is being repaved and Obama is driving the steamroller.

The Clinton Campaign is lofting a few trial baloons that need to be shot out the sky.

First I need to point out that like Senator Clinton and will vote for her in the general election if she is our nominee.

That said. If her campaign pushes for the inclusion of Florida and/or Michigan delegates to be seated at the Democratic Convention despite the fact that these states flouted the rules and the candidates and their supporters didn't campaign there all so she can win at any cost...

And woe be unto the DNC if they go along with this.

So, Hillary loves hot peppers since her 3-month stint in TX almost 4 decades ago...and she used to visit Wisconsin as a child, so she fondly refers to herself as a 'Cheesehead', right??

If Senator Obama were to win the nomination and the presidency, it would be the equivalent of the lamb walking into the lions den of Washington. "Hope" and "change" will taste so good going down: less filling and less calories.

You "Obamakins" sheep are just buying Oprahs latest book of the month.
Wake up!

I'm with you Zooker.

"it proved only that Obama lacked diplomatic expertise"

ONLY proved??? He is running for prez. Kind of important to be diplomatic!

How fitting for Clinton.

The Alamo had nothing to do with freedom.

It was a band of guys protecting some stolen gold.

"Please sign up to volunteer for the next three weeks,” she exhorted those who stood outside with the temperature in the mid-50s. “We need a president who is ready on day one."

It was nearly 36 years ago, Clinton told the crowd, that she had lived in San Antonio for three months, helping a voter registration drive aimed at Hispanic immigrants. While she lived there, she said, she gained a love for hot peppers."

SO IF I UNDERSTAND HILLARY(lol), EATING HOT PEPPERS 36 YEARS AGO MAKES HER READY ON DAY 1?

Line in the sand? In reality, if they had built a back door in the Alamo, there wouldn't be a Texas.

Texas will be able to replace "Remember the Alamo" with "Remember when Hillary ran back in 2008?"

The MI and FL delegates should not be seated arbitrarily, unless they are just going to split them down the middle.

MI and FL voters should be pushing their state officials and the DNC for re-doing the primaries if anything.

If the FL/MI resolution casts any doubt on the authenticity of the vote we will likely be toasting president McCain in November.

Does anyone hear coronets in the background? I think it's the last nail in the coffin for the Clinton crew. Thank God.

This paper and the media are so pro-Obama. Wake up. You are furthering a demigod, who like Hitler can lead you to a terrible future. Check out the preacher of his church who is a huge anti-semite. There's a big untold story in this along with the details of the Rezko real estate deal that hasn't been told. Shame on you Trib for putting everything Senator Clinton does in bad light and shining no illumination on Senator Obama. If he wins the nomination, I'm voting McCain. Warts and all, at least we know what we get and it's a humble public servant and war heroe. Not a demigod who's clearly become caught up in his own hype.

HillandBill will keep the campaign fairly straight, only because hitting Obama hard will alienate them from voters further still.

They are now and will continue wheeling, dealing and arm twisting the super delegates (off camera) to snatch the nomination at the convention.

I am hoping for the best for her. She is ready smart and talented, experienced. Obama is a precher and that will fall flat. Hillary has worked very hard in 8 years senate and white house for the people. Obama has baggage that has yet to be revealed and it ain't pretty so here's hoping for Hillary- and common sense for out first female president. Make US proud.

James Carville stated that if Hillary loses either Texas or Ohio on March 4th, Obama wins the Democratic Nomination. And he's right. Obama has literally nickel and dimed the Clinton Camp into submission, with what Hillary would classify as insignificant wins in small states. But the delegate total continued to add up for Obama until he now leads. Another one of Hillary's problems is that when she loses in a Primary or a region, she seems to leave without thanking her campaign workers, and without waiting for the results to come in. She didn't do it in Iowa, but she dismissed Iowa as a caucus, stating that the real voting begins in New Hampshire. I didn't see Hillary complain about her caucus victory in Nevada. She left South Carolina before the polls closed. She left the Potomac region in the same manner, without thanking a soul. Many can say that Obama's message lacks substance, but the biggest message is the ones that are not spoken. You can see it in the body language, and in a person's attitude and ingratitude. At least Obama thanks his supporters if he loses. Wait a minute; when was the last time he lost? Who's that drawing a line in the sand?

Texas primaries are open primaries. I will be crossing over to vote in the Dem primary in hopes that my vote (and the votes of others like me) will be a detriment to Dem chances come November. Right now, I'm thinking that a vote for Hillary will best suit this objective but it's a tough call.

If you all watched CNN last night you would know that neither Hillary or Obam,Odam can win the required delegates. Therefore, it will be up to the super deligates to determine the winner. Get with it!!! By the way when Hillary was ahead 20 some delegates it was considered a dead heat, now that Obam is a few delegates ahead he considers himself the frontrunner. Maybe it is time for him to "run" for the hills.

Just read what one of Clinton's MMMs (Mendacious Menopausal Menions) wrote here. Rehashing lies that Obama is an anti-semite (even comparing him to Hitlery . . . umm Hitler). Rehashing Rezko "that hasn't been told." Pick up any Chicago paper over the last year - it's been told and retold until it is as old as Hillary's lie about "35 years of experience" (which doesn't include her time 36 years ago learning to eat peppers in Texas). Poor Mondegreenie, maybe a bit more fiber and iron in your diet will help.

We should be right on day one.

Joe,

Credit your copy-paste job - goof.

Ji_john said:
"Another one of Hillary's problems is that when she loses in a Primary or a region, she seems to leave without thanking her campaign workers, and without waiting for the results to come in. She didn't do it in Iowa, but she dismissed Iowa as a caucus, stating that the real voting begins in New Hampshire ... She left South Carolina before the polls closed. She left the Potomac region in the same manner, without thanking a soul ... the biggest message is the ones that are not spoken."
Agree.

There is an old saying:

"Old age and treachery can always over come youth and exuberance."

I hope it doesn't come true in this case, but Hillary-Bill are very good at treachery.

vote ABC (Anybody But Clinton[s])

Hillary loves hot peppers? I wonder what her stance is on guacamole?

I'll see your Rezko, and

I raise it by a Gupta.

Peace,

Anon

Hee-hee..the carpetbagger senator from NY claims she is one with San Antonio after visiting once over 30 years ago....and she loves hot peppers now! Go HRC!

Almost as funny as claiming her years being the wife of a former president as "experience" for the job.

Oh, how I miss my Texas!

Experience? Really. What job experience prepares a candidate to be the president of a global superpower? I doubt anyone is ever truely prepared for the job. Sen. Clinton's argument that her experience as first lady prepares her to be president makes as much sense as saying that the spouse of a corporate CEO is prepared to be a CEO by virtue of marriage. Albeit, first lady is a bit more of a public position, but still you aren't running the government; you're running a social staff.

Why is everyone focusing on Clinton? Take a look at Obama beyond what you see on TV and read in the newspapers - he is a muslim, he is associated with extremists, he is giving people false hope...He will not change politics... I am surprised to see how naive a lot of people are...The same way they gave Bush 8 years of presidency and now suffer the consequences. People wake up!

I will be happy when President Obama finally takes the oath of office. No more political infighting, no more partisan politics---just peace and harmony in Washington, the US and the world. President Obama will be irreproachable; no one would dare criticize him for fear of being branded a racist. Finally, all that white liberal guilt will produce tangible results. Sadly, I will miss all the vitriol and bile spewing from the Rush Limbaughs of talk radio. They won't as much point a critical finger at President Obama because criticism equates to racism.

Senator Barrack Obama should be very careful campaigning in the state of Texas, the state which murdered President JFK, in cold blood. Because everyone who crosses the notoriously evil Clinton Clan, ends up mysteriously dead. Because Senator Barrack Obama can
not be beat in the nomination for the 2008 USA Presidency, his life might be in serious danger n the state of Texas.

CLINTON = REALITY!
Obama = Fantasy.
CLINTON = SOLUTIONS!
Obama = Questions.
CLINTON = PLAIN TALK!
Obama = Rhetoric

America doesn't need another Hollywood superstar.

CLINTON '08!

Joe: You've been certified, right? Go take your meds.

Obama is running a national campaign, win or lose. The Clintons (yes, both of them) are running a national campaign----until they see that they are losing, then they run to the next state that she has "spent time in" so she can better bond with the constituents to get their vote (and money).

Obama said oops on 6 state Senate votes by peter.wallsten@latimes.com
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,0,713086.story
Bonehead Obama pushed the wrong button 6 times. Could he do it as president? Who knows? If he does, he'll just admit it, which won't be to bad so long as what he pushed can be recalled.

Well, if tears worked in New Hampshire, and giving away free healthcare to illegals worked in California, then maybe a line if the sand will work in Texas. This woman will try to reinvent herself and do anything to feed her megaton ego- at whatever cost.

The comparison to Obama, who is stable, under control, and and consistent is growing greater and greater. Hillary is going to keep fading hopefully, until we can finally emerge with new ideas and a new thought process in America, and elect Obama to lead us.

Please, America, retire the Bush-Clinton addiction to paranoia and depression and move forward. Hillary needs to pursue other dreams; she is not a leader.

These people who are babbling on about "change" need to get their heads checked. Both Clinton and Obama are eating out of the hands of major corporate lobbyists. The more things "change," the more they will stay the same. A vote for Clinton is merely dubious, but a vote for Obama is a clear sign of delirium. What has this guy done in his 2 years in the Senate and 8 years in the Illinois legislature that makes him qualified to run the country, other than vote "present" or avoid voting altogether? People are supporting him because of his race. Okay, that's fair. But don't pretend that's a rational vote based on his experience or know-how, because it's not. That will become clearer and clearer as the campaign goes on.

In answer to your question: Nothing.
But he is black and he is so cool.

BTW,
All those Texas 'heros' were fighting for slavery at the Alamo.

Believe it and weep, Texas crackers..

Maybe we need somebody without alot of tradition "experience". That kind of traditionally experienced candidate is just going to keep up the same old failed policies that are ruining the nation now. Not to disparage McCain, he seems to be a genuinely honest, intelligent, and upstanding gentleman. However, his experience, while extensive means that he will operate the nation according to the same old disastrous republican plan of voodoo economics and cold war era foreign policy.

Hillary as no more real experience than Obama. Well, she has more experience in conducting shady criminal enterprises and in being first lady. So if they were running for first lady or for Godfather I'd vote Hillary.

Maybe Obama won't work out, he has fresh ideas but maybe they will fail but then maybe they will be a resounding success, only time will tell. But we can be certain that the same old failed model that McCain will use is sure to fail again, and we can be sure that Hillary is so divisive and corrupt that her presidency would be marked by nothing but scandel and corruption.

To coin a phrase, as it were, Obama represents our last best hope for prosperity and recovery.