by Rick Pearson
PROVIDENCE, R.I. — En route to a day of fundraisers and campaign appearances in the little heralded March 4 primary state of Rhode Island, Sen. Hillary Clinton traveled to the back of her campaign plane to look at the art work that press photographers and camerapeople had assembled.
But besides the list of Clinton’s pant-suit wardrobe and a “For Sale” sign advertising stump speeches, the New York senator also delivered some commentary on the news of the day, including the announcement that Ralph Nader had decided to enter the presidential race.
She also touched on other subjects, including her anger at two political mailings from Barack Obama being sent to Ohio voters on the issues of trade and health care. And she said she understood that many African-American leaders were torn in who to support for the presidency.
In New Orleans earlier, Clinton offered her regrets for any hard feelings stemming from husband Bill Clinton's comments comparing Obama to the Rev. Jesse Jackson. Yet, when asked about that, all the senator would say is: “I’ll have more to say about that some day, but not right now.”
Yesterday, Clinton had lashed out at Obama about a pair of mailings attacking her on the North American Free Trade Agreement and on her plans to mandate that everyone get health insurance as part of her plan for universal health care. Obama’s campaign questioned whether her outrage was feigned as a political strategy.
“I thought they’d stopped. You know, they have been discredited and we called their hand and I thought that it stopped or at least it would have been revised to take into account what was clearly a series of false and misleading statements. And so when this woman on the rope line said look at what I’m getting, I was really surprised because I did think they had either changed or stopped,” she said aboard her campaign plane today.
“You know, there’s a big difference in what is said in that (Obama) campaign and what is done in that campaign and I think that was apparent yesterday,” she said.
Obama and his campaign have stood by the content of both mailings, but Clinton once again contended an attack on her plan for universal health care was undermining a core Democratic agenda item.
“Universal health care is a passionate cause of mine and I think it’s counterproductive to be attacking universal health care, which is essentially what those mailings do,” she said.
“I think it’s very damaging to the cause of being able to put together a coalition to get to universal health care. I think it plays into the insurance companies and the Republican talking points. It is an obvious spin off of the old ‘Harry and Louise’ ad (run by the insurance companies against her failed early 1990s health proposal),” she said.
Obama also questioned Clinton’s anger after the mailings had been out for a long period of time.
“I really was disappointed when I first heard about it, but because it’s in the mail, you don’t see it all the time,” she said.
Clinton also said she attended Tavis Smiley’s State of the Black Union forum in New Orleans the day before because she was “honored to be asked” and because she understood the dilemma some African Americans are facing in backing a nominee. Obama did not attend.
“I know how difficult this is for a lot of people, people who I’ve known for decades, people who I’ve worked with, people who are really good friends. And I thought it was a great opportunity to be able to come and basically say, ‘You know, I’ve been with you before. I’m with you now. I’m with you tomorrow. And, what’s important is that we stay united and win this election.’
During her appearance at the event in New Orleans, Clinton issued her regrets for any controversial comments her husband, former President Clinton, made in South Carolina. The former president came under fire for comparing Obama’s campaign to previous campaigns of Jackson, prompting critics to contend that Clinton was unfairly injecting race into the campaign.







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It's amusing that Clinton repeatedly accuses the Obama campaign of exactly what She is doing. Planned parenthood even condemned her false attack flyers on Obama in Ohio. I guess it's some kind of political trickery but Hillary has grossly underestimated the intelligence of the people
Posted by: Marion | February 24, 2008 2:28 PM
With each passing day, Hillary Clinton sounds more plaintive and more disingenuous.
Posted by: Heather Smith | February 24, 2008 2:31 PM
"During her appearance at the event in New Orleans, Clinton issued her regrets for any controversial comments her husband, former President Clinton, made in South Carolina. The former president came under fire for comparing Obama’s campaign to previous campaigns of Jackson, prompting critics to contend that Clinton was unfairly injecting race into the campaign."
Race is a fact of human life. Bill Clinton was merely communicating this reality in his comments. He is a realist--not a racist.
Posted by: D. Grant Haynes | February 24, 2008 2:46 PM
If Obama wins, the Republicans will win the election. Nothing like having a junior senator, with no record running for president screaming "I have a dream!"
Posted by: Jeff | February 24, 2008 3:01 PM
To D. Grant Hayes,
Bill Clinton was using race as a tool. He is not racist, but he's willing to use racism when it might aid his cause.
He's the worst kind of opportunist -- in my mind, that's much worse than simply being a "realist."
Posted by: Brad | February 24, 2008 3:05 PM
Some of the comments here seek to blame Senator Clinton for the bad behavior of Senator Obama. I think what we're seeing is what we expected all along: Obama's new politics are nothing more than the same old, same old. It's time for Americans to wake up to this sham before it's too late.
Posted by: Mark | February 24, 2008 3:07 PM
Nader is back. His votes in Florida 7-1/2 years ago, that most likely would have gone to Gore, caused the election to go to our current moron. I wonder if he will cause as much swing now as then.
Care should be taken when choosing our vice-presidential candidates. With the acrimony and divisiveness caused by all three of the mainstream candidates, it is likely that there will be attempts on the person elected, whomever it is. There is no moderation with any of the three. You either like them or gag at the thought of them being your president.
Posted by: D. F. Baugh | February 24, 2008 3:20 PM
Why so many photos on Obama (I mean, a TON more!) and very few for anyone else?
Posted by: joywinnebago | February 24, 2008 3:24 PM
HRC is the only candiate who really cares about this country. It's not about ego, it's not about power. It's about the country. Obama is running a dirty campaign - he's on an ego trip and will do whatever he can to win.
Posted by: Simone P. DuBois | February 24, 2008 3:25 PM
Blacks voting for Obama in huge numbers is not racist? "White" Demos voting in primaries are not white, they are liberals.
Posted by: v racer | February 24, 2008 3:30 PM
They both have got to be desperate to come here for a couple of hours. Very kind of them. Here in R.I. We know that you can send the Pope to Washington,D.C. and within in weeks he too becomes dirty. We need a Harry Truman, Kabeesh?
Posted by: Peter | February 24, 2008 3:30 PM
Financial supports for Nader candidacy could come from the right wing conservatives, oil companies, ... from those who benefit the most by electing yet another Bush(McCain) government.
Nader, when he finally rest, will be tanked by nobody but Rove, Cheney,et.al.
Posted by: Andy of NY | February 24, 2008 3:32 PM
The Clinton campaign seems increasingly bi-polar. Upbeat one moment, paranoid and angry the next. Bill Clinton's remarks were beyond ill-considered and were rewarded with appropriate scorn. His stature and history in regard to the African-American community carries with it a responsibility to not run off at the mouth about the first serious black candidate for President. It suggests that he is happy to support aspirations for equality, but not attainment of them. Please think about that for a moment. We are all busy adjusting our perceptions of what is and what isn't possible this year, so Bill is perhaps to be forgiven, but there was a more acid and calculation to his remarks than is acceptable. It will all end in Texas.
Posted by: Arthur | February 24, 2008 3:32 PM
Most American voters has one common denomenator in this year's presidential election, i.e., change of administration. The 8-year Republican domination is just too much to bear, therefore, has to go.
Electability becomes all too important now. Since racism is still well and alive in America, who should be the Democrat's presidential nominee?
Posted by: Melvyn M. Rosales | February 24, 2008 3:35 PM
I have been following Hillary's political career since the early 90's, and she has always inspired me. I remember telling everyone back then, that I believed Hillary could actually be the first female president if she ever decided to run, and most people thought that I was crazy. A woman president? I was interested in the Universal Health Care Plan she had created back in 1993, but it was brought down by the Insurance Industry and small businesses who did not want to cover their employees. She has a great deal of experience. Her attendance record is great, and she has done really well in the senate.
I see the position of Commander and Chief as a job. A huge job, and I know that whenever you apply for a job, the person with the most experience, and the best track record usually gets the job. This country is in a complete mess and cannot afford for someone to learn on the job. We are at war and our economy is on the brink of recession. The foreclosure situation is terrible.
On the other hand, Barack Hussein Obama, is a newcomer, with very little experience, a horrible attendance record. I think the whole media secrecy surrounding Barack Obama and his radical muslim and anti-american ties is pretty scary.
One of Senator Obama's books "The Audacity of Hope" is based on the preaching of his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, whose close ties with Louis Farrakhan, whom he honored as a "Great Man" is unnerving. He had a 17 year relationship with Tony Rezko, a Syrian slumlord (now in jail), who caused poor people to live in squalor on the south side of Chicago, without heat in the dead of winter. Then there is the campaign funding he received and ties to Nadhmi Auchi, a billionaire Iraqi terrorist funder and Rashid Khalid, a Pakistani terrorist, and the Kenyan terrorist, Raila Odinga. I also don't want to leave out the Weathermen, William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. Were they Timothy McVey's inspiration?
Then there is the Exelon Corporation nuclear plant in Illinois that had not disclosed radioactive leaks that contaminated the drinking water at one of their plants. Senator Obama lied about how he did something about preventing this situation from happening again.
Now down to his Elmer Gantry character.
He is not truthful, and he tells the American people just what they want to hear, but he doesn't really say anything about how he will "Change" things. I watched the debate, and the hard questions were asked of Hillary first, then his answer would be "I agree". Hillary really did shine in the end.
Saturday Night Live really did a good impression of the whole Obamamania thing.
PT Barnum said it best "You will never go broke underestimating the American Public." It seems that Senator Obama is bulletproof from the media really revealing any of his dirt. But then again the media does not care about anything but their bottom line I also believe is a Republican ploy, in part, to gain a running mate for McCain. They knew that McCain was in the bag, in the primaries, so why not vote for his running mate? The question will come down to the general election, and who will come out to vote, and for whom.
In the end, who really knows what will happen?
I hope this explains why I support Hillary, and why I think it would be in the best interest of this country for her to win. If she doesn't win the nomination, then who else is there to vote for? Ralph Nader?
Posted by: Joan | February 24, 2008 3:38 PM
D. Grant Haynes--
Bill Clinton is a racist, not a realist. If he were a realist, he would have convinced his wife by now that the only way for her to win a nomination for President would be to create a new party to lead. A realist does not group politicians together merely by virtue of their skin color. That is the definition of racism.
Posted by: Brandy (a white girl voting for Obama) | February 24, 2008 3:40 PM
it may be a reality that jesse jackson won south carolina, but it's also a reality that many many white politicians have won that heavily african america state. where was bill's mention of that? he just happened to pick the one black candidate that's won that state in the last 20 years as his point of comparison, how convenient.
Posted by: pauline | February 24, 2008 3:40 PM
As an african american woman,I completely agree that former President Bill Clinton is a realist NOT a racist.He did many things to help the african american population,one of the programs he strogly supported helped pay for my tuition,so I could go to college to pursue my dreams.I too am a realist and I like Senator Obama but I know that Hillary is the best qualified to be the leader of this great nation.I have supported Hillary from the start and I will stand behind her all the way.GO HILLARY!!
Posted by: m.d.c. | February 24, 2008 3:45 PM
In my heart I don't believe Clinton's comment was racist, but it definitely wasn't realistic either as claimed by Grant Haynes. Obama had already experienced success at voting booths in other states, whereas Jackson had not. Comparing the two was like comparing apples and oranges. Clinton's comment was strategic...hoping to label Obama as a meaningless candidate just like Jesse Jackson, and it failed miserably.
Posted by: Anonymous | February 24, 2008 3:51 PM
Hillary has constantly talked about her 'universal' health care plan and now that Obama is clearing upthe 'difference' she is angry
She has taken credit for her 8 years in the White house, so why not NAFTA
Better we speak about NAFTA than the soap opera she and Bill provided us with during their last two years in the white house
Posted by: Nelson Peebles | February 24, 2008 4:05 PM
Americans say they want change. I do not believe it. They want someone they can have a beer with or someone they can idolize. If they really wanted change - experience and substance would matter. Barack is Elmer Gantry with a website.
Posted by: George | February 24, 2008 4:06 PM
Don't forget Obama on national tv saying he did not know the slumlord Rezko. On Feb 20 he updated his statement. He now claims a 17 year friendship and sought Rezko's advice with real estate transactions in his soon to be purchased Chicago home. On the same day Obama bought the house for 300,000 less than the asking price, Rezko bought the adjoining lot for 650,000 and gifted it to Obama for 100,000. If you don't believe me about your idol..go read the article in the ABC News web sight and the Chicago Tribune web sight Feb 20, 2008. The national media is afraid to expose Obama but there is more. Rezko donated to Obama personally 138 times. Obama as late as Feb 20 is still taking the little $5 donations he receives from his 'delusional' followers and returning money. Tune in-he has returned close to a million dollars of Rezko money since he has been exposed. This information is also listed on the campaign finance info web sight. Another interesting note. Obama has also 'donated' 700,000 this year to Super Delegates-who have pledged their undying devotion for him. There are no guidelines as to how the donated money is spent. Those people received what older politicians and Chicago officials refer to as 'graft'. That amount is also questioned because no one knows where that money came from..maybe today we can clear that mystery up. Today in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal they reported that Obama received millions of dollars from lobbyists and kept it...Obama's campaign responded to the news of him doing exactly the opposite of what he preaches 'clean up old Washington by not accepting influence from lobbyists..I have worked hard to reduce the influence of lobbyists'..perhaps he meant by taking all of their money?
Obama is a fraud. There is no doubt about it. Ask him and he lies. I think you all have heard that "if you repeat the same lie often enough..'folks' begin to believe it." Joseph Mengele said that.
I will not vote for Obama if Hillary does not win the nomination. I will vote for John McCain who has integrity and who without any remuneration from anyone..suffered at the hands of the enemy to keep our country safe. Obama would not do that. He voted to 'pass' on a lot of important issues for Illinois. Nothing got better there for his work. The drugs are worse, crime is up..only he and Rezko benefitted their friends. Another fact. Rezko's influence list was published yesterday. Guess who is on it and who Rezko names as someone in his pocket? Obama. Read it for your self on the Trib web sight.
So if I cannot vote for Hillary..I will vote for McCain-I want a change towards no drugs-Obama says its OK? I don't think so. I want to walk outside of my home without fear of being attacked by a crack head for cash. No drugs for me or my children. How dare he excuse his bad judgement to his youth? Hillary and John McCain did no drugs. While Obama was doing drugs John McCain was suffering life threatening injuries to keep our country safe from the people who trade in them. I just don't see how we can even think about electing a man who espouses drugs are OK when we spend billions of dollars as a country trying to keep drugs out. Our prisons are disproportionately full of young black man who are there because of drug related issues. What could Obama-Barry- be thinking. I remember now...Jesse Jackson had to remind Obama he was 'black' when Obama refused to stand up for the Jenna 6. Thats right Obama doesn't enjoy being black sometimes unless it is for fooling all the electorate who pushed him to the forefront because they are black. Is this a conundrum?
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OBAMA THE CHANGE AGENT -CNN — Last night, Obama supporter Texas State Senator Kirk Watson was asked to name Obama's legislative accomplishments. He failed to name a single one. Heres a few
Obama said he goofed on votes angered fellow Democrats in the Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago's West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed!
Also announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6. The next day, he acknowledged voting "present" on a key telecommunications vote. He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said. Obama was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.
But two of Obama's bumbles came on more-sensitive topics, he backed legislation to permit riverboat casinos to operate even when the boats were dockside.
The measure, pushed by the gambling industry and fought by church groups whose support Obama was seeking, passed with two "yeas" to spare -- including Obama's. Moments after its passage he rose to say, explaining that he had mistakenly voted for it.
Obama would later develop a reputation as a critic of the gambling industry, and he voted against a similar measure two years later. But he was clearly confused about how to handle the issue at the time of his first vote, telling a church group that he was "undecided" about whether he backed an expansion of riverboat gambling. And, months earlier, he had voted in favor of a version of the bill.
Obama's vote sparked a confrontation after he joined Republicans to block Democrats trying to override a veto by GOP Gov. George Ryan of a $2-million allotment for the west Chicago child welfare office. being responsible," said Sen. Rickey Hendon, accusing Obama of voting to close the child welfare office.Obama replied "I understand Sen. Hendon's anger, I was not aware that I had voted no on that piece of legislation.
He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive. Abortion opponents see Obama's vote on medical care for aborted fetuses as a refusal to protect the helpless. Some have even accused him of supporting infanticide.
Striking similarities between Barack Obama's words and those of Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick during his 2006 election campaign have raised eyebrows and attracted traffic on YouTube. The stump speech Barack Obama has been giving aimed at convincing voters that his campaign is not just about lofty rhetoric — is from Patrick, Obama's campaign acknowledged over the weekend.
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Posted by: N West | February 24, 2008 4:09 PM
"Bill Clinton was merely communicating this reality in his comments. He is a realist--not a racist."
To be sure, he was communicating reality. However, it was a very specific reality he wished to communicate; that both Barack Obama and Jesse Jackson were black. The intended implication then is that Obama's success is due only to the same things which got Jackson votes in '84 and '88. Namely, that he appealed largely to black voters alone.
So Bill was telling the truth, no question. And I don't think he's racist - just a politician. I doubt you are naive enough to think that he would just HAPPEN to mention Jackson after Obama won SC by a landslide.
Posted by: George Thistlethwait | February 24, 2008 4:18 PM
hill seems to be a bit unsteady to me. one day she's syrupy sweet and
"honored" to be debating and a couple of days later she's freaked out and angered over the flyer business. it's like her reactions are
exaggerated, overly emotional.
she never seemed like prez material
to me.
Posted by: spacejunk65 | February 24, 2008 4:19 PM
Using race to incite racist feelings whilst pointing to a particular candidate is what Bill Clinton was at! I don't believe he's a racist, but he is a Karl Rove type of guy, he knows how to provoke a certain reaction by his words, disguised as they were by seemingly casual and innocent comment. Your smart Bill, but very transparent to a growing number of people!
Posted by: Robbie | February 24, 2008 4:27 PM
"And she said she understood that many African-American leaders were torn in who to support for the presidency."
Anyone will understand what she is trying to do with that comment. I just wish this think will be over as soon as possible, before the seeds of division that she is trying to sow could germinate. She already tried to play the woman card before. Shame on Hillary.
Posted by: vikas | February 24, 2008 4:31 PM
Found this one the other day - "By polling logic, I should be your supporter - Democrat, older woman, white, liberal. I was even in a dorm with you in college. I have pulled for you for years. But something this past summer fundamentally changed my responsibility to my children and grandchildren. In the time I have left in my life to protect them and others, I need to speak out.
I saw a News Hour piece on Maharastra, India, about farmers committing suicide. Monsanto, a US agricultural giant, hired Bollywood actors for ads telling illiterate farmers they could get rich (by their standards) from big yields with Monsanto's Bt (genetically engineered) cotton seeds. The expensive
seeds needed expensive fertilizer and pesticides (Monsanto, again) and irrigation. There is no irrigation there. Crops failed. Farmers had larger debt than they'd ever experienced.
And farmers couldn't collect seeds from their own fields to try again (true since time immemorial). Monsanto "patents" their DNA-altered seeds as "intellectual property." They have a $10 million budget and a staff of 75 devoted solely to prosecuting farmers.
www.grist.org/comments/food/2008/01/17./).
Since the late 1990s (as industrial agriculture took hold in India?), 166,000 Indian farmers have committed suicide and 8 million have left the land, and it has increased since 2002 to an average of 1 every 20 minutes (P.Sainath, The Hindu). The reasons for suicides are always complex and Monsanto is not the only giant agribusiness now in India, but it is one of the largest, and the main one in Maharastra where the suicides are especially high. Farmers in Europe, Asia, Africa, Indonesia, South America, Central America and here, have all protested Monsanto and genetic engineering.
What does this have to do with you?
You have connections to Monsanto through the Rose Law Firm where you worked and through Bill who hired Monsanto people for central food-related roles. Your Orwellian-named "Rural Americans for Hillary" was planned with Troutman Sanders, Monsanto's lobbyists.Genetic engineering and industrialized food and animal production all come together at the Rose Law Firm, which represents the world's largest GE corporation (Monsanto), GE's most controversial project (DP&L's - now Monsanto's - terminator genes), the world's largest meat producer (Tyson), the world's largest retailer and a dominant food retailer (Walmart).
Hilary, you didn't just work there, you made friends. That shows in the flow of favors then and since. You were invited onto Walmart's board, you were helped by a Tyson executive to make commodity trades (3 days before Bill became governor), netting you $100,000, Jackson Stephens strongly backed Bill for Governor, and then for President (donating $100,000).
Food and friends, in Clinton terms:
Bill's appointed friend Mike Espy, Secretary of Agriculture, who immediately significantly weakened federal chicken waste and contamination standards, opening the door to major expansion of Tyson's chicken factory farms. Espy resigned, indicted for accepting bribes, illegal contributions, money laundering, illegal dispersal of USDA subsidies .... Tyson Foods was the largest corporate offender.
But what Bill did for Monsanto "genetic engineering" goes beyond inadequate concepts of giving corporate friends influence: He unleashed genetic engineering into the world. And then he helped close off people's escape from it.
Genetic engineering is many orders of magnitude different from "normal" (even polluting) business in its potential
biologic ramifications. The warning myth of Pandora'a Box - letting irretrievable things rush out into nature - has become real. The narrowing change to the world from nuclear fission and fusion is the
closest parallel.
What did Bill do?
1. Bill's put Monsanto people in at the FDA, as US Agricultural Trade Representatives, on International Biotechnology Consultive Forums, and
more ... (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/072600-03.htm or http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9904b/monsantofda.html or http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Revolving-Door.htm.
2. Bill's FDA gave Monsanto permission to market rBGH (a GE bovine growth hormone), the first genetically engineered product let loose on us (or did tomatoes with fish DNA get there first?).
3. Despite reports of bovine illness and death, Bill's FDA did not recall it or put warnings on it. Even "a very angry, very vocal nationwide consumer base" had no impact. "
4. Bill's FDA wouldn't even label rBGH as "present" in milk.
5. When dairy farmers tried to label their own milk rBGH-free so the public could choose, Bill's USDA threatened all dairies that their products could be confiscated from stores. Michael Taylor, USFDA Deputy Commissioner, was formerly Monsanto's counsel.
6. How were consumers to protect their family, given Bill's FDA enforced public blindness, except to buy only organic? But Bill's FDA tried to close off that last escape, proposing to include in "organic" standards, "the dirty three" a : genetic engineering of plants and animals, use of irradiation in food processing and use of municipal sewage sludge as a fertilizer. The FDA backed down. Had this gone through, Monsanto could have finally labeled rBGH milk ... as "organic." And animal waste from factory farms, a pollution nightmare for Tyson and others, could have been sold as fertilizer.
Here, Bill ignored pleas for labeling. Abroad, Bill ignored intense international objections over the same issue - unlabeled US food exports - badly straining trading relations. Monsanto's "good ole boy," he betrayed American families at the deepest levels conceivable - their family's health and
their democratic right to know. He betrayed our rural life and American family farmers - backing corporation deceit and control, over honesty and clean farming.
But, Hillary, it is one thing to not label a regular ole food product to sell it, and quite another to sell a suspected-dangerous food product (rBGH), but Bill's administration didn't label (or stop) a well-known, terrifying threat - Mad Cow Disease.
Bill's FDA's August, 1997 regulation permitted "known TSE-positive [Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy] material to be used in pet food, pig, chicken and fish feed," only requiring the label to read "Do not feed to cattle and other ruminants" in the US.
Bill let TSE into our entire food chain. And who owned the feed and slaughter and genetic engineering corporations which benefitted?
Please, tell me, Hillary, what he could possibly have gotten in friendship or favors, that could ever justify his exposing millions of people to this?
With genetic engineering itself, Bill did something to the whole world, which tried to object. Words are inadequate to express how astoundingly immoral, beyond human bounds and conceit and power, that was.
Your claim to care about food safety is terrifying double-speak given what Bill did and who you take donations from. Your idea of a Department of Food Safety would centralize control of food - in whose corporate connected hands? You talk tough about labeling food - ah, but "foreign" food - a sleight of hand tricking a public desperate for safe US food. You talk about food safety but Bill degraded food in every imaginable
way and prevented minimally sane labeling.
I am a person before I am a woman. Your gender means nothing. It is a media distraction. Your policies on health and food and women and children, are meaningless in the face of connections that have threatened those groups profoundly, connections you have never denounced.
Monsanto uses child labor in India, primarily very young girls, exposing them to a lethal pesticide 13-14 hours a day, for pennies in pay. But you take
donations from their lobbyists. You say you care about black people but as the poorest people in this country, they are least able to buy organic and are forced to eat the contaminated foods Bill let into our food system. The National Black Farmers Association has a boycott out
on all Monsanto products.
Do you eat organic?
So, who are you with, hapless black consumers and black farmers, or Monsanto? Mothers left to give their children rBGH milk, or Monsanto? Women
exposed to 7 times greater risk of breast cancer, or Monsanto? Desperate farmers in India and young children forced into child labor in cottonseed factories there, or Monsanto? Animals suffering from lives in filthy cages and disgusting feedlots, shot up with steroids and hormones and antibiotics, or Monsanto? Our children who eat candy
with high fructose Bt corn syrup associated with kidney and liver toxicity, or Monsanto?
Edwards was right about your corporate
connections. I just didn't understand until I saw that PBS show and read about Monsanto, how personally affected my children and grandchildren, and all people around the world, have been.
I will not vote for you. I will vote for someone who will commit themselves to work on behalf of small farmers and real food and decent treatment of animals and to end this industrialized agricultural nightmare that is taking us off a cliff. Linn Cohen-Cole Atlanta"
WOW!
Posted by: NvMe | February 24, 2008 4:38 PM
I find many of the comments interesting concerming Hillary vs. Obama
When this Primary is over. And for arguments sake, let's say Barack somehow gets the nomination.
Who do you think Obama is going to turn to win the general election?
The general election is very different from the primary... At some crucial point, Barack is going to extend his hand to "Bill Clinton" to help him.
If you were Bill Clinton, would you help someone who had accused you and your wife of being a racist...? Truthfully, would you? I'm not so sure that I could look someone is the eyes after that and say, "yes, we can... no problem."
The Democratic National Committee had been promoting a "50 State Strategy to Win" the Presidency. I guess the new mantra is "48 states! Yes, We Can..."
Barack Obama just might ready ... But, I'm not so sure America is...? And the Republican party is sensing this like a dog in heat.
I would like to suggest that the new musical mantra for the general election is... a song by President Clintons cousin... George.
"Atomic Dog"
Posted by: Randy | February 24, 2008 4:46 PM
Any guesses on which Hillary we will see tomorrow? I would expect Hillary-The-Fighter because she has a fund-raiser coming up. That's what I would tell her if I were Mark Penn or one of the other handlers.
Posted by: hillaryis44 | February 24, 2008 4:47 PM
The long anti-Obama diatribes above smack of professional input to me.
Posted by: James Smith | February 24, 2008 5:03 PM
Experience got us where we are today. What people seem to be missing is that while we've been sleeping, the world has changed. We need a fresh look and fresh ideas. We can no longer afford to keep debating and nit picking. We need action. If Obama can inspire Americans to get involved in their government and put pressure on their representatives for positive change, then hooray for him. HC is a capable woman, but I can't help thinking her abilities are simply not what we need at this place in time. It's not to say she's no good, just that it's not her time. Let's move forward to positive fixes to our domestic problems and our foreign policy. It's a new world. Let's be a leader.
Posted by: Dee Tate | February 24, 2008 5:05 PM
No, no, and not. B(ully)'s comments on SC were not racist at all! Those were stupid! Those comments showed how smart Mr. Clinton is/ was.
Posted by: D. Julio. P | February 24, 2008 5:07 PM
Obama is a decent guy, I suppose. Why is it so hard for him to admit a mistake has been made? Is he not still floating that same memo based upon material from Newsday, that was corrected weeks ago by the publication itself. Bill Clinton is no racist. Why wouldn't Obama want to be compared to Jackson since he's standing on the shoulders of Jackson and other civil rights workers. He has no problem with being compared to JFK. He uses Blacks for his own benefit but runs away from recognizing race. Is this what his white advisers are pushing, telling him who he can be seen with, photographed with, ect., or perhaps this is the real Obama.
Elizabeth
Posted by: Elizabeth | February 24, 2008 5:20 PM
I was married to a bi-polar woman once. Hillary seems like her guru.
Posted by: DMC | February 24, 2008 5:24 PM
What Bill Clinton was saying is that Obama was just another Jesse Jackson, someone who would be a flash in the pan and nothing more. I never thought that what Clinton said was racist and I am an African American. He was just trying to downplay Obama's victories in the South.
It just so happened that his remark backfired and Hilary's "outrage", a day late and a dollar short, about what Obama was saying in a flyer about her health care reform is just more drama made for television.
Cheap tricks. I don't want someone like Hilary as my President.
Posted by: Dora Taylor | February 24, 2008 5:25 PM
what's with billary's mood swings? makes me question her readiness to be commander in chief. never mind the crown, billary put the LAUNCH button down!
Posted by: teopa | February 24, 2008 5:30 PM
what's with billary's mood swings? makes me question her readiness to be commander in chief. never mind the crown, billary put the LAUNCH button down!
Posted by: teopa | February 24, 2008 5:35 PM
Hillary Clinton brags about being a human rights activist then why did she vote against an amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs/land mines in civilian areas? 98% of the victims from these hideous devices are CIVILIANS and at least 30% are CHILDREN who often think they are picking up a toy.
Sen. Obama had the moral judgment to vote in favor of banning the use of cluster bombs/land mines in civilian areas.
Hillary voted for a senseless war saying she was "duped" by Bush. How does that make her experienced enough to be Commander In Chief? She fell for the lies regarding Iraq because she didn't do her homework or wanted to look tough then she turns around and gave Bush the very same authority to attack Iran in the Kyle-Lieberman bill.
She is a political status quo calculator and votes accordingly. I prefer someone with some moral judgment - I vote for Sen. Obama.
Posted by: Michigan500 | February 24, 2008 5:37 PM
To the very first blogger: I hope you are right--that Americans ARE intelligent enough to see through Hillary's self-proclaimed destiny to be the first female president. A female would be nice, but no thanks, I'll wait for a good one.
Posted by: tony | February 24, 2008 5:52 PM
I hope Hillary wins Texas and Ohio; I hope she survives this race. The Democratic Party heirarchy should be ashamed for their intentional control of the results of this election. May they be able to live with themselves for what they have done to Hillary. I want to live to see their choice smear their faces with defeat in the general election. Go Hillary, pick them where it hurts!
Posted by: esb49 | February 24, 2008 5:53 PM
Hillary is losing because of herself and her husband. Bill doesnt own the Democrats, if Obama wins the nomination he doesnt need to ask Bill for help, especially since he has show how much he can do with his campaign with so little to start with. Hillary had so much money, name recognition, insider connections, goodwill and yet all that was squandered in the last 2 months. At some point Bill Clinton will have to ask how much of his legacy he willing to destroy before Hillary stops. But then again if she does get the nomination, then they will be the democratic party for another 5 months, before the country switches to McCain.
Posted by: Weiss | February 24, 2008 6:11 PM
Today - Sunday Feb. 24
"Iowa’s Des Moines Register, the largest newspaper in the swing state that put the Illinois senator on top in possible head-to-head match-ups in the fall election.
The poll shows Obama ahead of Republican nominee John McCain by a substantial margin, 53-36. A head-to-head match between McCain and Hillary Clinton shows McCain is the preferred choice, 49-40."
Steve Brown, Bonney Kapp and Aaron Bruns and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Posted by: Mich Indy | February 24, 2008 6:15 PM
Jeff "get real" Hillary Clinton is the junior senator for NY. If you support her thats fine but dont attack Obama with BS try to do it with truth.
In the end we will all be on the same team in the end!
Obama 08
Posted by: shane | February 24, 2008 6:29 PM
Hillary, your anger and verbiage yesterday are, at best, repulsive and degrading, "..shame on you, Barack Obama!.." and "...that is what I expect of you!" You are acting like a an angry plantation dowager and treating Mr. Obama as if he were your slave! Civil adults do NOT address others as you have addressed Mr. Obama. Parents who treat their children in this demeaning manner are considered mental and emotional abusers. Your behavior is outandish and beyond the pale. Hillary, if you do not understand anything else, please understand one thing: YOU DO NOT CALL THE SHOTS IN THIS ELECTION! "WE, THE PEOPLE" DECIDE WHO WE WANT AND NEED AS OUR PRESIDENT AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
Posted by: NinaK | February 24, 2008 6:39 PM
With Ralph Nader running again and so much bitterness in the Democratic Party between the Clinton and Obama camps, I fear the disaster of a McCain Presidency is looming. Can't SOMEONE or some BODY intervene with the candidates to avoid this impending TRAIN WRECK?
Posted by: James Smith | February 24, 2008 6:45 PM
Hillary's campaign is dead, poisoned by Bill Clinton. Clinton supporters are either in the bargaining stage or in anger. Most are past denial.
I am sorry for your personal loss.
The country, though is better off.
Posted by: Ron | February 24, 2008 6:46 PM
A year ago, Hillary Clinton announced her candidacy for President stating she in it to win. Well, sorry to say, but she has lost ten states in a row to Obama...
Posted by: frankn | February 24, 2008 7:12 PM
History will remember Hillary Clinton’s all female leadership team: Cheryl Mills, Tamera Luzzatto, Mandy Grunwald, Lissa Muscatine. Neera Tanden, Melanne Verveer, Capricia Marshall, Minyon Moore, Huma Abedin, Patti Solis Doyle, Ann Lewis and others, as vastly overrated and preeminently unqualified – except perhaps to manufacture anti-Clinton hysteria, knit hair shirts (blouses & skirts), and pledge allegiance to their benefactor – slumber party politics. Hillary’s colossal failure of imagination seems to stem from the fact that she made her bones on Richard Nixon, but Mrs. Clinton proceeded to model her political life on Mr. Nixon’s. Although, burning through tens of millions of dollars of other people’s money on campaign frivolities, political non-sequiturs and hyperbole, is signature Clinton: http://theseedsof9-11.com
Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | February 24, 2008 9:36 PM
First of all...Hillary supported Obama's senate run...she came to the Windy City to help raise money for his campaign.
I am an African American woman who can't drink the Obama kool-aid! Here is why.
If race is an issue...African American has introduce race into the primaries. I am dismay at the African Americans turned against the Clintons like rabid dogs! I understand and respect every man and woman's right to choose his/her candidate. Nevertheless, something is very wrong with the turncoat behavior that I'm seeing. We were Clinton supporters ... we voted overwhelmingly for him, twice, I might add! He has a proven track record...Hillary has a proven track record...so why is every black person in America voting against Hillary if it's not about race? Clinton was fondly called the first black president because...the African American communities enjoyed a rich and respectful rapport with Clinton.
I no longer live in your city...so tell me what has Obama done for you lately. I know that neighborhood that Obama did his short grassroot stint...when I visited there in the 80"s and 90's I didn't see his thumbprint anywhere. Aside from campaigning for president since arriving on Captiol Hill what has given to the African American community. Are your schools better? Are you streets safer? If he really was about bringing jobs..then he wasted his time on a done deal...the steel mills went belly up in the 70s during the recession. If he's so young thinking...how come he didn't line the streets with new businesses like Starbuck...Mrs Fields Cookies...Ben and Jerrys...why didn't he appeal to Bill Gates to bring technology into the hood. He did not have any solutions...He served his time in Roseland and Altgeld then got the hell out!
I would like a black president for the right reason...at the right time. Twenty years ago I would have been on the Obama train. But I'm older and more mature. Race is not enough to garner my vote. We must remember we rose out of the sinkhole of slavery because of our own strength and courage and by the compassion of white abolitionist! I was alive and youthful during the 60s...I remember many black people opposed MLK's nonviolent marches. MLK did not get our overwhelm support. MLK dream became a reality because President Johnson had the bravery and courage to lobby white sympathizers and made our case ...and from his commitment we got the civil rights acts...and the voters act. Thurgood Marshall was able to win the Supreme Court Decision ..Brown v Board because of republican President Eisenhower did tremendous wheeling and dealing...to make that happen...Chief Justice Earl Warren was appointed by Eisenhower to make that happen. Those whites on the bench at the federal and Supreme court level were ostracized...and received death threats...they lost the respect of friends and relatives...and black women have you forgotten the contribution of our white sisters...the equal right amendment was born from the laborious efforts of our white sistas...black men left us in the dust when the doors of opportunity swung open! I am a woman...because of the ERA, men have to respect us in the work place... because of the efforts of our white sistas pressing our legislators...we have The Family Leave Act...laws have been enacted because our sistas of different colors and human expressions fought and lobbied tirelessly so health insurance cannot deny us access to providers on reproductive issues... our sistas have lead the fight for Title IX. Title IX has an impact on female high school and collegiate athletics.
Never had an abortion but because of our feminist sistas...women don't have to go into seedy rooms...to terminate a pregnancy...our men can no longer beat us and abuse us because women banded together to get laws enacted... I hope you will take a second look at Hillary...and let your conscience be your guide...don't vote race...vote what would be best for us all...
Posted by: Sagacious2008 | February 24, 2008 10:33 PM
I'm a white woman who can't take the Clinton gutter politics. Hillary is the most divisive woman in Washington and the most unelectable. And she has the nerve to try to divide the party!
Posted by: Dennie | February 24, 2008 10:52 PM
Hilllary keeps mentioning how important universal health care is to her, but remember how she nearly tore the government apart when she couldn't get her own way....she would be a mess as a president, more devisive than Bush.
Each day Hillary becomes more shrill and more negative....why would we want her to be our president? She's better at blame than inspiration.
Posted by: Suzanne | February 24, 2008 11:49 PM
Abraham Lincoln had roughly the same amount of experience as Obama when he was elected president. Experience isn't everything. It isn't as important as character.
Hillary spoke out for NAFTA, which her husband got passed. She now agrees it is badly flawed. If she is going to claim the good parts of the Clinton legacy, she needs to 'fess up to having supported some things Bill did, like NAFTA, that weren't so good.
It is also accurate that Hillary's health plan will punish people who don't buy health insurance. Yes, she will try to reduce the number of the poor who will be fined for not buying health insurance, by making health insurance more affordable, but yes, some poor people who still can't pay for it will end up being made worse off by having to pay fines. Back before she decided to make this attack, she said so herself.
Posted by: Gary Nowlin | February 25, 2008 1:07 AM
Jeez, isn't there anything else you can find to blame Hillary for? If you do not like her just say I do not like her and skip all of the petty crud. Lets at least be honest about it, Hillary haters try to justify their hatred by convincing themselves Hillary is the anti-Ghrist. Get a life and grow up, she is not guilty of all of the crap thrown at her by hysterical Obama followers and the entire TV network is against her. She gets far better treatment on Fox than she does on MSNBC & CNN and God knows I never thought I would say that. I have actually started watching Fox News, next I will be listening to Rush.
Posted by: bccity | February 25, 2008 2:45 AM
To be a president you need no experience. All you need is to surround yourself with good advisers who are not afraid to tell you the truth. Look at Bush government is full of experience cabinet now look what is happening this is the worst cabinet since the founding of U S A. so far BARACK proves that he can surround himself with great adviser because his camp is doing great. As we al l know Clinton fire some of her staff members because she didn’t judge correctly from start.
If we are going to make a comment about Barrack dealing with Tony Rezko we have to comment about Clinton dealing with fugitive fundraiser I don’t remember his name but he is currently in federal prison. We have to treat both sides fairly. All the former great presidents of this country were great speakers. Currently barrack is a great speaker and will be a great president if he wins. Experience doesn’t matter but right judgment.
As I said Barrack proves right judgment many times so far.
Posted by: tafaf | February 25, 2008 9:46 AM